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12:34 AM
Good night all...
@HeatherBrown I don't do python... Maybe @JacobVlijm can help...
;-)
 
1:15 AM
Can SE add this to chat?
 
ugh. no.
 
It's so funny, though @Seth
 
1:31 AM
My chat script may eventually convert ":)" and the like to emoticons.
Don't get too excited though... my next scheduled slot of free time is in 2021.
4
:P
 
Wouldn't it be useful if wineHQ put the winetricks list in a separate named div, so you could either peel it or click a button to download a delimited list to bulk install in a new wineprefix without copy pasting and editing out () comments? Just saying...
 
Argh.
Linode expired my password. I've had that one memorized for years...
 
Someone is being naughty in the 19th byte.
 
Lots of moderators showed up there :P
 
Well, one guy 15 flags... Validated one and just shook my head.
o/ @JourneymanGeek
 
1:40 AM
wat
 
\o/
Bias lighting installed
cost me... erm...
6 dollars
roughly
 
wat2
 
actually would have cost me less if I'd stuck the LEDs directly to the monitor
 
watwatwat
Anyone here know anything about tracking MC/Java errors?
 
basically, lighting the wall behind your monitors apparently improves contast
 
1:47 AM
ah
 
@NathanOsman looks like most are getting swag from that contest ;)
 
with the talk of reducing eyesstrain and headaches, I thought it was giving your brain/eyes something to focus on right outside the screen.
 
@hbdgaf What is this?
 
rather than spending 20 quid on a shitty kit, I bought a meter and half of cool white LEDs, stuck them to wood, and roughly stuck them behind my monitor
 
@Zacharee1 A massive string of chat flags in a room somewhere.
 
1:48 AM
works ok, but needs refinement
@hbdgaf I have a better (pricier) plan to do this, but I wanted to see if there's a difference first
 
@JourneymanGeek Well, it wasn't this ghetto
 
@JourneymanGeek $40 for 2x18ft RGB LED strips. We use them in the kitchen for counter lighting :p
 
I dumpster dived a led strip that went on a broken fish tank
 
@hbdgaf only a little less
 
then put some metal repair tape to direct the light down
bam desk light.
 
1:50 AM
@Zacharee1 ????
 
The wiring is wildass. Molex -> molex/floppy converter., which is then wired directly to the LEDs
 
@Mateo I still want to turn my desk in to an infinity table.
 
I feel like you'd want more amber light
But I wouldn't know :p
 
@hbdgaf that would be awesome
 
@hbdgaf oooo
Just looked that up
 
1:51 AM
put your phone on it upside down, still see the screen ;)
 
It looks pretty cool
@Mateo ◔_◔
 
seems legit
what does java.lang.NullPointerException mean?
 
referenced something that doesn't exist yet or already got freed. at least that's generic null pointer exception.
 
@Mateo yup, got an email earlier.
 
1:54 AM
yeah, you certainly won that one @NathanOsman :)
 
@hbdgaf hmm. I wonder what's happening
 
wow, the nexus 4 had wireless charging
 
wow
@hbdgaf here's the full error, but it doesn't seem to have much:
java.lang.NullPointerException
	at mineverse.Aust1n46.chat.MineverseChat.onEnable(MineverseChat.java:208) ~[?:?]
	at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.setEnabled(JavaPlugin.java:321) ~[spigot-1.8.8.jar:git-Spigot-db6de12-07c3001]
	at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.enablePlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:340) [spigot-1.8.8.jar:git-Spigot-db6de12-07c3001]
	at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.enablePlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:405) [spigot-1.8.8.jar:git-Spigot-db6de12-07c3001]
	at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_8_R3.CraftServer.loadPlugin(CraftServer.java:357) [spigot-1.8.8.jar:git-Spig
It works fine on other servers
 
First glance, probably a difference between the open jre and the oracle jre... but I didn't really read it.
 
So why does it work on other MC server instances on the same machine?
It's so weird...
 
2:01 AM
All running the same plugins? Are you memory or processor starved and it's the least important instance?
 
Similar plugins. I tried disabling everything except it and its dependencies, I replace it and its dependencies, I replaced the Spigot jar itself, the Spigot folder and some other stuff
I'll check the other thing
112MB free
weird
It should be around 2G
 
Oh wait, hang on
862 free with the server running
2899MB free without it running, so I think it's got what it needs
 
oh btw, for those of you who use mobile chat frequently, they're working on a new mobile site:
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, yesterday, by balpha
@UNIKITTY2.0 @rekire paste this into the javascript console on a chat page: $.post("/users/new-mobile-ui", fkey({ value: true }))
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in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, yesterday, by balpha
Also, to make one thing clear: I gave you a sneak preview, but at this point I'm not very interested in bug reports yet.
 
Do that on my phone? @Seth
 
2:05 AM
@Zacharee1 if you can. It's easier to run it in a desktop browser though.
 
ok
 
It sets a hidden preference somewhere or something.
@NathanOsman @Mateo @JourneymanGeek (I know you all use mobile chat pretty frequently) --^
 
morning :)
 
Not sure how to put it in
 
@Zacharee1 Ctrl+Shift+I
brings up the console.
 
2:06 AM
Yes....
But since I use it it brings up the source
 
What browser?
 
ah
 
Ugh. Trying to remote connect is a pain
 
got it
 
O_o
Fancy!
 
2:07 AM
like it?
 
Not seeing it. Do I need to switch to mobile UA?
ah ha
 
cool
 
sweet, someone make a webapp and put it on the ubuntu touch store ;)
 
@Mateo I volunteer you! :P
 
2:08 AM
@NathanOsman is there a way to do that on mobile?
 
you are the run with all teh UT devicez
 
I'm guessing it enables it for your account.
 
@Zacharee1 it's an account wide setting.
 
oh
cool
 
well, Ive only done UA changes, and I'm not sure how to do the jsconsole on the phone
 
2:09 AM
@Fabby I agree with you ;p
 
Can you inject JS into a WebView page with QML?
 
Ooo it looks nice
 
Ah, Oxide.WebView, that's the QML class I was thinking of.
 
There seems to be no upload button however
 
@NathanOsman hm, maybe could be a simple on/off app with login
and a link to chat
 
2:12 AM
@Mateo lazy
:p
Why not just have the whole thing? It'd be easier than a browser
(to use)
 
Whoa... and Oxide supports UserScripts, so I could have support for my chat script built-in.
I really like this.
 
PLSPLSPLSPLSPLSPLS
 
ooo, I like the notification circle
 
ping me
 
@Fabby thanks =)
@Zacharee1 hi
 
2:14 AM
oh yeah
it does
thx
 
Nathan do you even use your script any more? :P
 
the old mobile chat was quite old, I usually just use the desktop version on the phone
 
@Mateo same
 
how many flags you have? @markkirby
@markkirby hello morning :)
I mean regular flags not comment flags
 
@Seth Hang on - let me turn it on.
There we go.
 
2:20 AM
90k?!
 
@Ravan You mean remaining flags? How do I check? I can't seem to find this information in my profile page.
 
@NathanOsman you haven't been using it for weeks :P
 
@Seth it hasn't really been working for a while ō_ô
 
@markkirby Well, when you hit flag at any post, it will show available flags
 
@Ravan @markkirby is talking about comment upvotes, not comment flags :)
 
2:22 AM
@Seth Oops, I confused and made him confuse
sorry @markkirby
;)
 
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A: How many comment votes do we each get in a day?

SethAccording to How does comment voting and flagging work? over on Meta Stack Exchange you get 30 comment upvotes per UTC day: Comment votes ... You get 30 comment upvotes per day.

 
@Ravan 30 on main site and 12 on meta, it's OK I was thinking I was missing something simple in my profile :) I guess we can't check on remaining flags, oh well thanks for trying anyway.
 
@Seth you beat me,
fast :)
 
I have to do this a lot, I'd hope I was at least a little fast xD
 
:D
 
2:26 AM
@Seth Thanks, I must of done alot of comment voting yesterday :) The plus side is, there must be alot of quality comments to vote on.
 
 
I want Ubuntu on my phone :(
 
just waiting on the slimport cable to hack it into a convergence dock
found the charger dock for a $1 at the dollar store
 
surprise
 
@Mateo How do you like Ubuntu phone? There is no rom for my phone and there outr of my price range right now :(
 
2:30 AM
what is your range, I found a secondhand nexus 4 for not a lot
@markkirby it's really nice, and things are progressing quickly - still some stuff here and there, but releases come quick
 
@Mateo Right now, not alot, if I could pick one up for maybe £150 in a couple of weeks I would love one, what did you pay for you Nexus?
 
@markkirby it's really nice, and things are progressing quickly - still some stuff here and there, but releases come quick
$85 usd - they are anywhere from there to $125 on ebay for a decent used one
the $125 ones read like new old stock
so yeah, not bad
 
@Mateo WOW that's so cheap, I am going to have a look right now :) I was expecting about $250 usd, thanks
 
just make sure it is unlocked, and you don't buy the ones that are cheaper and are broken
the conversion process wasn't bad - developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/…
 
2:40 AM
@Mateo any other ideas on what that Java error could be?
 
so, some of the scope stuff is really nice - always wanting to use it to look at what is nearby - then swiping to get the open apps is one of the best things ever - as well as the top bar directly taking you to which icon you swipe down from
 
I saw some nice looking ones for only around £100, unlocked with box cables etc... Think I will pick one up I think, thanks for that link seth, they are cheap too :)
 
can't wait to try it with a monitor hooked up ;)
 
@Mateo whoops, wrong person (I think)
@hbdgaf any other ideas on the Java error?
 
just the plugin misbehaving somehow. if you have it running more than once, it might be fighting for some config file... maybe.
 
2:47 AM
hm
The files are separate between servers, but I'll check to see if I maybe have it double-copied
 
Shame on Amazon.
 
it's getting to that point where I think they are going to have something big to announce at the ubucon summit, hope they pull a big secret product announcement
 
@NathanOsman what did they do now?
 
Seriously?
They don't support Opera?
They sniff User Agents?
This is 2016.
 
2:49 AM
huh, yeah...
 
lol
You can't watch Netflix or Amazin Video on Chromium or variants either
 
User Agent switching time...
 
@Zacharee1 well... partially true
 
The problem with Netflix is it "needs" the Widivine plugin to work, which Chromium doesn't get
 
Funny... it works fine when I switch my User Agent.
 
2:50 AM
@Mateo ?
 
Glares at Amazon...
 
Chromium is unable to use the widevine component from google chrome : libwidevinecdmadapter.so and libwidevinecdm.so How to reproduce : - copy the 2 files the chrome archive in /usr/lib/chromium-browser - check chrome://components/ - Widevine does not appear Solution : With the help from several people (hogliux for patch and saiarcot895 for PPA) , a PPA is available with this feature : - https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-dev - You need the binary widevine plugin plugin (2 files) : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1371274/+attachment/4397708/+files/WidevineLinuxForChromium44.tar.gz To be copied in /usr/lib/chromium - Launch netflix.com and see if it works. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: chromium-browser 37.0.2062.94-0ubuntu0.14.04.1~pkg1042 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-35.62-generic 3.13.11.6 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-35-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.3 Architecture: amd64 Date:
chromium-browser (Ubuntu)
Wishlist / Triaged
 
@NathanOsman Bet it works as chrome or safari. They're both webkit based. So, best guess.
 
@Mateo Torch on Windows can't do much with that :/
 
It works with a Firefox for Windows User Agent :P
 
2:52 AM
pfft. then why?
 
chromimum will now work with a user agent switch, and if you make sure you have the plugin
but you have to pull it from chrome ;P
 
@hbdgaf Even works with an IE User Agent :P
 
@Mateo I did and it didn't install
 
it's complicated...
 
Why is IE so bad?
 
2:53 AM
Oddly enough, it doesn't work with a Chrome User Agent :P
@Zacharee1 Edge isn't so bad. IE wasn't much fun to develop for back in the day.
 
Chrome probably has some weird proprietary stuff
Edge is great
IE is terrible
It seems like even the simplest HTML needs a separate code for IE
 
That was the story of my life six years ago.
 
1. Write HTML+CSS
2. Test in Chrome, Opera, Safari, and Firefox
3. Everything works.
4. Test in IE - GOTO step 1
 
versions 8, 9 and 10 are EOL on tuesday ;p
 
2:56 AM
@Mateo Anyone still using XP will no longer have a supported version of IE available.
 
Saw the funniest thing the other day... microsoft edge, the new fastest way to download chrome
7
 
@NathanOsman Doesn't XP only go to 8?
@hbdgaf lol
 
I thought it went to 9.
 
huh
 
You is right
Wait
 
2:57 AM
I stopped using that on v7
 
u is wrong
 
I iz not wrong.
 
and moved my personal computers away at that point
I can test with the ie vm's if needed - don't even dual boot windows
 
@NathanOsman saw that lol
 
2:59 AM
@Mateo Yeah, those are great for general testing too.
I use them to build some of my packages and installers.
 
to the phone
brb
Back
This new interface is great, except for the lack of an upload feature
There is actually a chat web app for SE called ChatSEy, but it's pretty buggy
@Mateo I'm suspicious of you now. I just got a notification telling me about two signons to my Google account from a Nexus 4...
Well Goodnight everybody
 
3:34 AM
@Zacharee1 if it said Android it couldn't be mine...
 
 
1 hour later…
user139252
4:43 AM
@NathanOsman I found a way to add additional hosts to my site and give people a choice between which machine they want to work on
 
user139252
I just need more money to buy more Pis
 
@HeatherBrown I gave it some more thought and came up with what is (I think) an ingenious idea.
Instead of creating a shell account on the Pi, use Docker and give each user their own container. The common parts of the container are shared among users so it doesn't eat up a bunch of disk space. Performance within the container is identical to running on the host. And best of all, they can't mess up the host because they're inside a container :)
And according to this:
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A: Is there a maximum number of containers running on a Docker host?

Ben WhaleyThe practical limit is the number of allowed PIDs on the system, which is controlled in /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max. The overhead of a single container is very low. Depending on the system resources you could in theory run thousands of containers on a single host.

...containers use minimal resources so a single Pi could host thousands of users.
What do you think of the idea?
 
user139252
4:58 AM
Hmmmm that would be interesting... I wonder how I could set that up
 
user139252
I would have to learn more about docker... I'll spend this weekend messaging with and seeing what I can do
 
5:26 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Is product safe to apply? by alifdjuriya on askubuntu.com
 
5:58 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Cisco Exams Questions And Answers by keelywinstea on askubuntu.com
 
Is this spam?
0
A: Why can't i download something from Ubuntu software Center

Krisanth JohnTry going to System > Administration > Software Sources and adding or deleting a repository. The simplest way to do this is probably to add the "partner" archive under "Other Software". That will force a refresh of the repository data, and may bring "Software Center" to life-online journalism pro...

 
6:19 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body: this manner these stocks could by mattietosan on askubuntu.com
 
6:30 AM
@HeatherBrown I could probably hack something together in Go. It would go something like this: (1) program receives a request to create a new user account with their username and password (2) a container with their username is created (3) whenever they log in (you'll have to compare passwords), shellinabox launches their container and drops them into a Bash prompt.
It's not as complicated as it sounds, trust me :P
 
6:42 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Are you interested in laser rangefinder? by marcel23 on askubuntu.com
 
7:32 AM
@Ravan Could you elaborate ? Where can i find these settings "Text entry settings" and where to change its shortcuts ?
 
@VishwaPrakashHV hi
 
You are in Ubuntu right?
 
On top right you will see En
click on it
 
7:34 AM
Ohhh... K
 
see you :)
 
I get it
and what is it used for??
Changing languages??
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: What is Alpha fuel 720 supplement? by user490284 on askubuntu.com
 
 
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9:41 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: How lengthy do you ought to observe it? by kantjibond on askubuntu.com
 
9:55 AM
@A.B. askubuntu.com/q/565956/295286 More dependency problems :)
 
10:13 AM
@Serg Thx, my problem, I'm busy :\
 
@A.B. Sorry , I'm letting you know, that's all. Let me know if you need any help with the busy thing :)
 
@Serg Varnish reverse proxy =)
 
^_^''''' um . . . maybe not . . . I don't know anything about proxies
 
Good morning :) Hello @A.B. and @Serg ! - how are you ?
 
@cl-netbox Hello =)
 
10:24 AM
@cl-netbox hi, i'm fine, how are you?
 
@Serg Good to hear this - I am fine as well - I got the deepin hardware acceleration problem solved ... now it's running much better. :)
@A.B. Are you at work right now ?
 
@cl-netbox very nice ! How did you do it ?
 
@Serg it was crazy : I switched the background image in deepin VM - shut down - re-enabled 3D in vbox - booted deepin and it worked :)
 
0
Q: Auto-restart apache2 on crash with systemd(Ubuntu 15.10)

ChupaMeThere is no apache2.service file on ubuntu 15.10. I want to restart apache2 if the apache2 process gets killed. For most services I can add a ... [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/path/to/bin Restart=on-failure ... to the *.service file If I enable apache2 as a systemd service I get: systemc...

0
Q: /var/log/rgc main.log very large file preventing server operation

SeanJThe root partition on our Ubuntu server has just filled and the web portal no longer works. I tried locating the large file and discovered: /var/log$ du -h --max-depth=1 3.6M ./apache2 12K ./fsck 1.2M ./mysql 4.0K ./news 51G ./rgc etc. On closer inspection, I see: /var/log/r...

 
kos
@Serg Did you understand what the guy wants?
 
10:31 AM
Good morning @kos ! :)
 
kos
Hey @cl-netbox, good morning
 
@kos he wants this awk ' NR > 1 { if ($1 != prev ) print NR } { prev = $1 }' OmarAli.txt
Compare each line's first couple of fields
He wants to find different field
 
kos
@Serg Ok so you think the first field is not always 2000 before it changes the first time, right?
However let me know if you update and I'll drop you a +1, I'll pass the ball since to me that's still unclear
 
@kos One could look checking if first field is 2000 , that can be done ,too. I think that's even easier
 
kos
Yeah actually this is what I understood: awk '$1!=2000{print;exit}' in
 
10:38 AM
0
Q: Set default shell as bash for users not in /etc/passwd

dotancohenOn my company's Ubuntu 15.10 desktop system I log in via Active Directory using some magic based upon PBIS. Thus, my user account it not listed in /etc/passwd even though I have a home directory under /home/local/FOOBAR/dotancohen/. How can I configure bash as the shell when there is no /etc/pass...

 
@cl-netbox yes
@cl-netbox again selinux fights =)
 
@kos the way OP worded it's seems like exactly that. In fact, you could probably add that into your answer. Just replace the in with in.txt so the guy doesn't get it all mixed up
 
@A.B. OhOhOh ... =)
 
What could I do against the freakin botnet mafia ? Those bastards keep trying to crack my DO server
 
kos
@Serg Ok, I'll convert it to Perl since we have an AWK already
:)
 
10:50 AM
@kos bingo, you were right. See his comment under answer . You got it bro !
Promptly upgoated
 
@kos hey, what does this mean? I changed the password as you said : sudo passwd vishwa
@kos It is working with old password. But What is "login keyring"??
 
askubuntu.com/q/717883/295286 Anybody has any idea what this guy did ?
He apparently ran poweroff command but his DO server didn't shutdown
@kos this is one of those users , that you have to use torture devices to pull out the actual question . . .>:s
@kos changed my awk
 
kos
@Serg Yeah. They could have been much clearer since the start.
@Serg (upvoted already)
@VishwaPrakashHV Hmmm that's probably a side effect of enabling the root password. See here: askubuntu.com/q/495957/380067
@VishwaPrakashHV Hold on, did you disable root login in the end?
 
11:09 AM
@kos Yeah I did sudo passwd -d root
And automatic login is disabled
`vishwa@vishwa-PC:~$ sudo passwd -d root
passwd: password expiry information changed.
vishwa@vishwa-PC:~$ `
 
Aaaand bash way added
 
user136984
So nobody knows anything about this?
 
user136984
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Q: How to export a profile in Toxic?

Paranoid PandaI recently installed the Tox client Toxic and created an encrypted profile with it, however I now want to export my profile in order to import it into another Tox client, but after going through the /help section, I am not sure how to do this. It said for more information not covered in its built...

 
kos
@VishwaPrakashHV Sorry, had nothing to do with the root password. See here: askubuntu.com/a/191204/380067
Since you changed the password for your user, that doesn't match the GNOME Keyring's password anymore.
 
11:13 AM
@kos could you tell me what is GNOME Keyring ?
 
@kos @ParanoidPanda hi
 
user136984
@Ravan: Hello! \o :)
 
kos
@VishwaPrakashHV I never got interested in it too much, but apparently it stores certificates, keys, passwords and some other stuff: wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/…
Good morning @Ravan
 
kos
@VishwaPrakashHV The point is those data are encrypted using your user's password; since you changed your user's password they can't be decrypted anymore, so GNOME keyring complains.
 
11:19 AM
@kos (I think its 4:49 PM for Ravan)
@kos Should I set it blank?
 
OK, I'm officially bailing on that question . . . I gave the guy the command that does the job, but he probably doesn't understanding it. Besides it's 4:20 am here, time to sleep . . .
 
kos
@VishwaPrakashHV No, set it to your user's password.
Otherwise it will keep complaining.
 
@kos K, I did that
@kos Thanks :)
 
kos
@Serg Your AWK command works, I have no idea why they say it doesn't.
@VishwaPrakashHV Np :)
 
@kos he just accepted my answer . . . and he gave me one last confusing comment
@Serg : it works and it gave me an into to go through awk thegeekstuff.com/2010/01/… – Omar Ali 1 min ago
\ (-_-)/ i have no idea what is happening
 
kos
11:27 AM
@Serg Lol. I think they just mean they got interested in AWK.
 
Yay . . .another convert to the church of AWK . . .
 
@Serg link please
 
kos
@Serg I gave the question a deep cleanup, it was totally unclear in the form they left it :)
 
@kos thank you -__-' ' 'that makes the eyes less sore
 
kos
11:44 AM
@Serg And the mind less puzzled. They started talking about reading the first three lines from a text file and they ended up asking how to print the last line whose first field is "2000" (!)
 
What I am trying to understand is also why he was trying to read everything in bash and shove into 3 different variables . . .now we know he meant 3 columns / fields of the line . . .but it was so confusing
Anyhow . . .
-3
Q: Mint, media keys stop working with document viewer

JohnXnxIn Linux Mint 17, the media keys on my keyboard work. When I open a pdf using Document Viewer, they stop working. Is there a way I can stop this behaviour?

VTC
 
kos
@Serg Just a poor attempt. :D
@Serg VedTC
 
I messed up again >_< oh, i so messed up again . . . Just two days I had fixed my schedule, i slept at 10 and woke at 7. Now It's 4 am . . .I broke it again
T_T
 
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