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12:01 AM
I only know of two kinds of oranges. The normal ones and Mandarin oranges which are usually very sweet.
Cuties are kind of like Mandarin oranges.
They are a brand name of clementines, I think.
A: What is the adjective corresponding to Venus?

LucasSome adjectives for Venus is boring,bright,glorious,hot,lonely.These reasons are some of the answer because there is nothing to their because their is no life and obviously no internet but seriously their is nothing to do their to explore only dust and rocks.I think the sun is glorious because i...

The punch line is at the end.
@KitZ.Fox @terdon Done.
12:04 AM
There was a shooting in California.
14 people are dead.
@JasperLoy Breaks are the best. Snacks and drinks.
@Mitch Really? How does that work, I've never requested such a thing. Did you post on meta or is there some nifty trick to it?
@Mitch You're supposed to post the link so we can upvote you.
@Mitch Sometimes, lunch is free as well.
12:07 AM
@MετάEd as good as:
argh! it doesn't one box deleted answers!
> I am a beautiful, agelic queen that goes throught life as a being
@Mitch The link works though.
I see dead answers.
@JasperLoy Well, shit.
@terdon I did what Kit suggested which was post to meta. So if any thing goes wrong, at all, we can blame her.
@KitZ.Fox oh
Q: Chat-room one-boxing for Etymonline and The Free Dictionary

MitchThe chat room can one-box lots of things, like wikipedia links and youtube videos and Google ngrams, making nice neat messages. In ELU chat it would be very useful to be able to one-box Etymonline entries and The Free Dictionary entries using links. I'd like to post a link like this: http:/...

Yeah. You're supposed to give us the link so we can blame you instead.
shit goes back to delete
@JasperLoy nice. lunch.
I'm still having thanksgiving leftovers and I'm not sick of it yet.
I think it is the cranberry sauce. It's tart and sweet and cuts through all the carbs
@I'mmostlyjustanidiot There's probably a question somewhere on the site about that. Dictionaries will tell you that prove has two past participles, though: macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/prove
12:12 AM
@KitZ.Fox Well played.
@JasperLoy ugh. I'm hearing about it on the radio. Like the fall of 2001 where all sorts of bad suff happened in the news starting with 9/11
Q: What is the difference between "proven" and "proved"?

vonjdMy question concerns when to use which of the above.

@MετάEd The comment? nods
@KitZ.Fox yes
Noun: mitten ‎(plural mittens)
  1. A type of glove or garment that covers a hand with a separate sheath for the thumb, but not for other fingers.
  2. mitten
Adverb: mitten
  1. In the middle.
shit. I was hoping that wouldn't work.
Have I mentioned that I think wiktionary sucks?
Wiktionary is kind of like Wikipedia. It's a fairly large, useful resource, but you can't trust any of it.
Noun: attributive noun ‎(plural attributive nouns)
  1. (grammar) A noun that modifies another noun attributively and that is optional (that is, it can be removed without affecting the grammar of the sentence); a noun used as an adjective.
  2. (grammar, when referring to a language other than English) A noun denoting bearer of a quality or an attribute of a subject, in reference to the lexical morpheme from which it is derived.
shakes head
12:27 AM
OK, it's kinda old news
@snailboat It's like they're making stuff up!
I wish they would copy paste from a real dictionary so that at least it might be closer to right.
Who knew that 'railway' was that old!
Verb: gekker ‎(third-person singular simple present gekkers, present participle gekkering, simple past and past participle gekkered)
  1. To make a series of stuttering throaty vocalizations in the manner of foxes when encountering a rival.
Can anyone point to a modern grammar that uses the term 'noun adjunct'? I keep finding it all over the internet, but no one ever says what framework it comes from.
@KitZ.Fox That's not a word!
That's not what a fox says!
Yes, it is.
Shut up!
12:40 AM
Did you see the reference on that entry?
Q: What does the fox say?

Kit Z. FoxIt is true that as a fox, I should know this, so consider this a spoilers warning. In a recent post, Geek Girl mentions that the mating call of the fox is a series of sharp, eerie barks and that this is called gekkering. This is supported by a citation in Wikipedia, but the reference is not one ...

Thank the Hat Dash.
@KitZ.Fox you made that up!
Geckering geckos should be part of a doubledactyl.
Well, dammit, I'm going to start making shit up.
also I will have my AI write random papers and submit them to wikipedia with reference to itself.'
12:44 AM
@Mitch I didn't actually make the entry. Someone else cited it. I was flattered.
@Mitch I starting here by reference things into the future.
Like this
Resulting in pinging myself..
There don't seem to be very many citations pointing to SE on Wiktionary.
This one points to Portuguese.SE: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/recordar
I don't think they should. Despite the transparency of both SE and wiktionary, we can hardly take either as an authority.
It was Hugo would asked if it would be OK to reference the answer. He does a lot of etymology research, it seems.
Interjection: 'snails
  1. (obsolete) An oath.
  2. (Can we find and add a quotation of Beaumont and Fletcher to this entry?)...
12:49 AM
@snailboat Wow.
Totally gonna start using that.
@KitZ.Fox Yeah, he beat the OED in an answer to one of my questions:
A: What is the origin of the idiom 'all the rage'?

HugoCerberus describes the evolution of the phrase well, and I'm surprised it's so old - it still feels quite new. Here's some antedatings. OED's own antedatings The rage First, the OED online has shuffled their senses around a bit (the Shakespeare 1593 quote has been amended to 1594; the 1785 has...

That's what I call class!
1:19 AM
Wow, that is classy.
1:29 AM
@JasperLoy I see people do it all the time, I think because there are so many more resources in English for lots of languages.
Some people are really good at the L2 they're using as an intermediate language, though.
I'd have to imagine there'd be a lot of variables influencing how difficult it is, and you'd have to figure that out on an individual basis – does it seem like a helpful strategy for you in a particular case?
Once you get started, though, you can do a lot of learning in the target language :-)
“We could for example say that Spanish is almost a twin sister to Portuguese; Italian, its half-sister; French, its cousin; and English perhaps a second cousin.”
The previous sentence in the original linked to above observes that all European languages can be thought of as being quite close in a global context of all the languages everywhere.
I’m thinking of @DamkerngT. here.
2:12 AM
@JohanLarsson I know! It's funny, isn't it? It doesn't feel like I'm talking all the time, and yet...
@Cerberus Notice how many of the first page of megachatters are from language sites.
Yes, unsurprising.
Somehow this photo touches me.
How dignified they look.
The International Atomic Energy Agency.
Wait a minute, that's wrong.
It is the head of the Persian atomic agency.
He still looks dignified, though.
2:35 AM
They have the snazzy collars
Whereas Ahmedinejad looked like he worked at the office of an auto mechanic shop.
A suit suit is too western looking for them
Hmm guess who helped and encouraged the Persian nuclear programmes from the beginning, and who educated their main nuclear scientists?
@Mitch True, and true.
What if people slowly stop editing wiktionary (like Wikipedia) and all the errors and half empty definitions get set I stone? Like a corrupt judge with dementia.
> Seine naturwissenschaftliche Ausbildung hatte er in den siebziger Jahren an der Amerikanischen Universität in Beirut erhalten, seinen Doktortitel machte er 1977 am Massachusetts Institute of Technology in den USA mit einer Arbeit über Reaktorphysik.
Amerika unterstützte damals den Plan des Schahs, Dutzende Atomkraftwerke zu bauen, brachte den iranischen Wissenschaftlern die nötige Theorie bei und schulte sie auch in der technischen Anwendung - von Reaktortechnik bis zu den Methoden der Urananreicherung.
Somehow I am not surprised.
A certain country continuing to create its own enemies...
Although England was certainly just as much to blame.
There was a brain drain in two directions after the revolution. Lots of American trained scientists went back to Iran, and lots of scientists who had already been home, left because it was intolerable.
But to 'blame' the UA so directly for creating the Iranian nuclear power tech is unfair. The is expected that Iran would be an ally in the region
Where is "home"?
@Mitch They expected it to be an ally, just like the Taleban and countless other groups...
The Brits were mainly to blame for destroying the democratic government in Persia and instating the Shah dictatorship.
But I believe America agreed with and helped the Brits?
2:47 AM
Oh. Taleban. Right. I forgot.
I think the Americans were rightly blamed for the cia-led coup that got rid of Mossadegh and reaffirmed the Shah's power. But the Iranians hate the British abiut as much
Then again. That was sixty years ago. Get over it
@Mitch Take off your mittens, kitten.
Oh, I thought it was a British coup?
Kittens. They'd shoot you in the face if they could just get their cute little paws around the trigger.
It's just so funny.
How terrible many foreign offices are at...their jobs.
Ministers of education are just as bad, at least here.
2:52 AM
The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup, was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot") and the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project). Mossadegh had sought to audit the books of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now BP) and to change the terms of the company's access to Iranian petroleum reserves. Upon the refusal of the AIOC to co-operate with...
So both
strikes a coo de cat
Ha ha so herding cats is a real thing.
@Mitch Hmm right.
How much has changed?
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4:10 AM
@tchrist I agree with the idea. From my perspective, European languages form a really close group.
And yet to those who speak just one language, that is hard to see — especially when that language is English.
I think it'd be easier to see once they learn a non-European language, and want to master it.
2 hours later…
5:49 AM
@snailboat Even books are not perfect.
@JasperLoy Perfect are not books.
@JasperLoy Yeah, if I trusted books blindly, I'd be very confused since they so often contradict one another!
Forget about books contradicting other books, since it is enough that they will often do that for themselves.
Forget about books contradiction themselves, since it is enough that they will often have only self-contradicting sentences.
This sentence contains all of the vowels.
Y do you say that? =P
6:05 AM
It doesn't contain /ɔɪ/
That's the least common vowel in English.
Still, no reason to throw out a good source of information just because it's not perfect. You'll be left with only bad sources of information.
Bad sources aren't perfect either so actually you'd be left with no sources of information. May as well poke your eyes out.
6:22 AM
Although I suppose the point is that corroboration is usually better than being reliant upon a singular source of information, even if it's the O.E.D. or C.G.E.L...
5 hours later…
11:09 AM
a friend of mine has a neat tool for looking into political language used in British and American media
You can map mentions of gun control in US politics to mass shooting incidents. Expect a blip over the next few days. http://www.languagespy.com/politics/us/trends/gun-control?startDate=2015-09-06&endDate=2015-12-03
Noun: Wikipedia
  1. fathom ‎(plural fathoms)
Verb: fathom ‎(third-person singular simple present fathoms, present participle fathoming, simple past and past participle fathomed)
  1. (transitive, archaic) To encircle with outstretched arms, especially to take a measurement; to embrace.
@KitZ.Fox @Mitch yes, Wiktionary one boxes ^^
11:48 AM
12:06 PM
I've just noticed that wiktionary's definition for the noun Wikipedia is fathom. great work, guys.
to be fair, that's the fault of the one-box mechanism not the wiktionary definition
great work, guys mechanism
@MattE.Эллен why are we to expect a blip over the next few days?
Btw, US gun control was one of the last topics I found in the ashes of the SciFi room.
12:27 PM
@skillpatrol There is a SciFi room?
@skillpatrol Horrible background coloring.
@MattE.Эллен the "bubble cloud" option is even neater.
Not to mention the comparison between the U.S. and the U.K.
12:47 PM
@skillpatrol Because of the shooting in California yesterday/today
I see, thanks.
1:09 PM
Oh, I thought Mos Eisley was closed?
Glad they reopened, I got some good recommendations there.
Yup, they were closed for about five days, I think.
Oh, I see.
Shog9 read them "the riot act," and it was over.
From what I could tell from the ruins.
Were you active in ME?
1:15 PM
Just curious what happened.
Do you read science fiction?
Nah, do you?
Though not always; I have my periods.
1:17 PM
Manstruation, I guess.
Are all three of the heads in your avatar the same gender :P
Mucho Macho Mojo.
Take your pick. :)
I think so!
Or their glands wouldn't work out.
Gland-sharing is difficult.
I have to run, adeus!
Later pal :-)
@tchrist do you happen to know if there any way to "rollback" the updates on my mini iPad?
I want the original iOS 9 back.
The 9.1 doesn't support my favourite app :(
1:48 PM
@MattE.Эллен Yeah, thanks.
no probs :)
Good morning.
@KitZ.Fox Bonjour!
@I'mmostlyjustanidiot Guten tag.
1:54 PM
Comment ca va?
(That's 'how are you' in French without the special characters)
[Or it might be a bastardization of the above. :P]
ça va bien, merci. Et tu?
Je ne sais pas que tu peux parler français. Es-tu francophone?
I can't read that one :D.
Oh, it's because I typo'd.
1:59 PM
I know only a few words haha.
Not because of a typo hahaha.

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