« first day 
00:00 - 02:0002:00 - 14:00

12:00 AM
@steelerfan WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH MY LIFE
 
@WadCheber Dammit!!! LOL!! That damn dog gets me every time!!! :))
 
0
Q: Has a serial killer ever targeted a policeman's family?

RichardIt's an astoundingly common trope in TV and films for the 'third act' to be taken up with the serial killer antagonist kidnapping or targeting the protagonist's daughter/son/wife, etc. Obviously the hero policeman invariably saves the day and we all cheer, but my question is, is this wholly myth...

 
@Richard They could target without killing
 
@Richard Wouldn't a killer targetting a policeman's family be a serial killer by definition?
 
12:03 AM
@Axelrod - Not unless they were successful
 
A series of killings following a pattern?
 
@CandiedMango Hey, I am working a double shift tonight. I will be lurking around for hours :) Stop. Please. Hold your excitement.
 
@Axelrod - My question is whether a killer has ever targeted the family of the policeman trying to capture him (post the start of the investigation), not whether a policeman's family has ever been killed.
 
Yay, redeye correction actually worked!
 
@steelerfan EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.... Sorry I just couldn't contain it. Well It's 9am here so....
 
12:08 AM
@WadCheber I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. THAT DOG IS KILLING ME!!
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
@Richard The Green River Killer used to call Dave Reichart, the lead investigator on the case and actually cased his house. That was in Seattle, Wa.
 
@steelerfan - SOunds like the makings of an answer to me...
 
@WadCheber holy crap
 
@Richard Well, I live in the Pacific NW. We breed serial killers up here.
 
12:11 AM
@Ghost Actually, it's just a husky.
 
@steelerfan Serial breeding of serial killers
 
@CandiedMango God Bless America! ;)
 
lol
 
@CandiedMango I knew that you would be excited :)
 
@steelerfan It's the best, I mean you show up chuckle uncontrollably, leave and repeat :)
And you laugh at terrible puns
 
12:14 AM
32 messages moved from Agents of Nothing
 
ok, well, I've finished troubleshooting my third utterly impossible bug for the week, weekend time.
 
@phantom42 We don't want your smelly hand-me-down messages that are vaguely on topic!
 
@WadCheber it's not SF&F, it's actually boardgames:se
so it's off-topic
so it's fine.
 
@CandiedMango Yes, I am always laughing at you guys. It is really hard not to :)
 
32 messages moved to Trash
 
12:18 AM
I'm just gonna keep talking about it in here. 3 is too many rooms
and I should have been home 20 minutes ago.
rock.
/bbl
 
@WadCheber Good sir... How dare you!
 
The best way to punish wad is by running amok in the room because he's responsible
>:D
@steelerfan Laughing at us? :'( Oh the betrayal
 
Why are the same grey'd out people as mos eisly hanging out in here as well?
 
@all - If this room becomes the default "get out of Mos Eisley and take it to ______" room, I'm going to deowner myself, and leave control of it to people with better judgement than myself. Also, I can't afford to be responsible for the stuff that causes flags in Mos Eisley, nor do I want to be responsible for it.
 
12:22 AM
why would you migrate rooms just to grey out?
 
@ryan Because we can't be trusted, clearly.
 
@WadCheber I'll take it!
 
@WadCheber Don't sell yourself short. You are quite responsible.
 
@steelerfan actually, given recent history, "I don't want to be in charge" may be the most responsible thing you could possibly say.
 
I'd be happy to pass the reins to someone else. @phantom42 and @Richard are already co-owners.
 
12:23 AM
@steelerfan You misunderstand, this room will possibly become the centre for all the controversial topics :P
 
But that can wait until Mos is up and running again.
@CandiedMango PRECISELY. Also, the exact reason I refuse to be responsible for what goes on here.
 
@CandiedMango - Mos will be open again in 22 hours. I've no doubt that the mods will wander around menacingly until they get bored.
 
Obie must feel so lonely
 
@Ixrec He's talking to himself.
Imagine what the transcript will look like when the room thaws.
 
lots of scifi questions to talk about?
 
12:26 AM
@CandiedMango And that is different from Mos Eisley how? ;)
 
@Ixrec I was thinking more along the lines of "a solid wall of Obie vomit", but same difference.
 
you could bring Obie in here
 
@steelerfan I don't want to be in charge there, either.
 
@steelerfan That's kinda the point :P
 
@MikeEdenfield Let him rot. He didn't try to help us when the room was frozen. He's dead to me.
 
12:27 AM
lol
 
@MikeEdenfield Would Joshua work in here?
 
I could bring WOPR over!
 
@Ixrec - Hehe. I'm so terribly glad that I de-ownered myself from Mos Eisley
 
sure.
i just need to switch room #s and restart him
 
It was kind of sad that the mods all voted up each other's comments.
2
 
12:28 AM
@Axelrod no I think the normal users did that
 
@CandiedMango Yes, I know. I was being facetious :)
 
@MikeEdenfield Define "normal" because there were only 5 of us talking and all of shog's stuff got 6 votes+
 
@steelerfan Your face is tious
 
@MikeEdenfield I have to believe that most of those stars were mods.
2
 
this is totally not giving the mods a reason to come in here and do things to this room too
 
12:29 AM
@Axelrod - He got a bunch of those stars while the room was frozen :-)
 
@Ixrec This is off-topic. Let them come.
 
@Ixrec Were you under the impression that they weren't already here?
 
you can star things in a frozen room
 
@CandiedMango That sounds like something @Richard would say to me ;)
 
@WadCheber hence "and"
 
12:30 AM
@steelerfan - No, I'd point out something about the Steelers.
 
that and I don't see most of them, but w/e
 
@WadCheber I can move Joshua here if no one will object.
 
@steelerfan He'd definitely just mention the Bengals
 
@MikeEdenfield Go ahead.
 
@Richard That's right. How silly of me.
 
12:30 AM
woo
this the new hangout now
 
were there any room owners in mos eisley when that all went down?
 
@Himarm No. You are just in a drunken stupor.
 
1 hour ago, by Wad Cheber
Where's Joshua when you need him?
 
What the HELL happened?!
 
@steelerfan havnt even taken my first drink!!!!
 
12:31 AM
lol
 
@Himarm Slow one tonight?
 
@randal'thor it's pretty much exactly what you think, skim the transcripts if you care for the details
 
@Himarm Dammit! I thought you might buy that one :)
 
@randal'thor We started talking about abortion.
 
@CandiedMango my wifes out getting a hair cut, and eating with a friend. shes bringing me home some food eventually haha
 
12:32 AM
%%alive
 
@MikeEdenfield Yes, I'm alive.
 
@WadCheber oh that's a terrible idea
 
@Himarm Eventually!
 
12:32 AM
@WadCheber Jesus.
So what are we allowed to talk about here?
 
@MikeEdenfield I kid, I kid.
 
not sure I can do owner-y things through the bot.
 
same as the other room: anything
 
Anything we like?
 
@randal'thor Everything.
 
12:33 AM
but I do have it's password :)
 
@CandiedMango yeah haha prob in like 2 hours >.<
 
@randal'thor - Anything you like
 
What's up with Most Eisley?
 
I'm guessing multiple people had the "let's make another chat room" idea at the same time
 
12:33 AM
@randal'thor - Nothing's up. Just most people seem to have gathered here
 
@randal'thor It was supposed to be what this is, but I made this room first.
 
in fact the only reason I even found this one was because I had the idea and went to check if anyone else had it already
 
It's alive, just empty
 
I made it because I didn't know about the off topic room. The name was someone else's idea...
 
We seem to be gathering here
 
12:34 AM
I wonder why
 
So this is the new Mos Eisley, in effect.
 
the backup Mos Eisley
 
@randal'thor until tomorrow
 
@randal'thor - For the time being
 
Except no one can break down the doors for something being "off topic"
 
12:35 AM
Is the actual Mos Eisley going to become a ghost town where people just talk about SFF?
 
We've been mod-invaded though
 
Because off topic is on topic.
 
I'm not sure anyone ever took "being off topic" to be a serious issue in Mos Eisley
 
Or will it go back to normal tomorrow?
%%modcount
 
@randal'thor There are one Shog9, one bluefeet, 2 moderator(s), and 3 owner(s) in the room.
 
12:35 AM
@randal'thor Until Mos opens, at which time this will be the room where people who try to argue about the same tired old crap can come.
 
@randal'thor - It'll be the only room on the whole damn site with an on-topic brief
 
it seems to be a strange excuse people use when someone says something really stupid, instead of criticising the really stupid thing itself
 
@randal'thor That depends on Shog, I guess.
 
@Joshua 3 owners? Richard, Wad, and ...?
nvm, got it
 
So what happens when we come in here to have an off-topic conversation, people start throwing flags, etc?
 
12:36 AM
@randal'thor phantom
 
to be fair, the initial flag was justified this time
2
 
I'm not sure how having another room to shove all the drama into is going to make the drama go away.
 
@Ixrec - Totally
 
@MikeEdenfield Exactly the kind of problem I want nothing to do with. Which is why I will deowner myself tomorrow.
@MikeEdenfield If nothing else, it will prevent Mos from being frozen.
 
I'm still wondering if there were any room owners in Mos Eisley at the time
 
12:37 AM
@Ixrec Are you saying that because it's true, or because you believe it's true?
 
@Ixrec None were active.
 
it feels like the owners are coincidentally never around when these things happen, so their kickmute powers never really get a chance to help
 
@Axelrod Click reply so we know what you're replying to, please.
 
@Ixrec - Nope.
 
They happen because they aren't around
 
12:38 AM
@Ixrec I'm curious, but I think I'd better not ask.
 
@randal'thor Wad's summary already answers that
 
@Ixrec Are you saying that because it's true, or because you believe it's true?
 
@Ixrec I remember a couple of times when they were really useful as ROs.
 
both!
maybe I'm coincidentally never around when the ROs actually do defuse a situation
 
@WadCheber - I flagged it also
 
12:39 AM
But we will NOT be debating whether or not that was okay.
 
@Ixrec Don't you see that as a bit disingenuous after just saying that reporting something as off topic is an excuse?
 
@Richard I figured.
 
@WadCheber ... OK ...
@WadCheber You're the boss :-)
 
@Axelrod I'm missing the connection here; what does off-topic-ness have to do with ROs being or not being around to defuse conversations that are getting out of hand?
 
@Ixrec The conversation was five posts long.
 
12:41 AM
Soooo, I guess I'd better not mention my opinion of eating meat rather than being a vegetarian. Got it.
 
2 mins ago, by Wad Cheber
But we will NOT be debating whether or not that was okay.
 
Whatever your opinion, it happened, and debating whether any of it was justified is useless. It can't change shit, so why bother?
 
Opinions are opinions.
 
"A bunch of stuff happened, and now we're here"
 
I say we go to the winchester and wait for this whole thing to blow over
 
12:43 AM
@CandiedMango Now THAT'S a slice of fried gold.
 
My rep has mysteriously increased by 8. Was another user deleted?
 
5 mins ago, by Wad Cheber
But we will NOT be debating whether or not that was okay.
 
this is not the topic of conversation you're looking for
waft waft waft
 
The parting on the left is now the parting on the right.
Guitar solo
 
12:47 AM
8 messages moved to Trash
 
ROs can freeze a room right?
 
I couldn't delete the quote messages, but I would if I could.
@CandiedMango I don't see that option.
 
That seems like a power they should have
for a limited about of time
say a max of 10 minutes
 
We can remove messages and kickmute, and control who can talk, but nothing like freezing, as far as I can see.
 
"timeout" is the name of that particular feature
 
12:50 AM
I think you can change the room from "public" to "gallery" in the Access tab?
 
@Shog9 Is it only CMs who have that power?
 
@randal'thor We're not doing the exact thing that got Mos frozen.
 
@CandiedMango no, it's either room owner or moderator-level; i forget which
 
@Shog9 Mods.
 
12:51 AM
@WadCheber Oh. Sorry. I only saw Axelrod's comments in the Trash room.
 
Time to become a Mod and hand out Justice Pauses.
 
It happened several times during "Richard ruins chat with a modfest". Zissouz and JohnP were freezing Mos for fun.
 
PSA: Mos will remain frozen until the SciFi mods decide otherwise. ALL mods have been instructed to freeze any SFF chatroom if a valid flag is raised unless/until a SciFi mod is able to intervene.
2
Tangential observation: room owners have a surprising amount of moderation power over their own rooms, although much of it is not immediately obvious.
 
@Shog9 Does that mean it will stay frozen after the time is up?
 
2 messages moved to Trash
 
12:54 AM
@CandiedMango it very well could. Really depends on how the mods want to spend their weekend. I know how I want to spend mine.
 
@Shog9 Just checking the info :)
 
@Shog9 watching old family slides in a dusty 70's basement?
 
that's Wednesdays
Weekends are for yelling at kids to get off of my lawn snow
 
I can't move obie here, apparently.
 
Wad Cheber has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
Wad Cheber has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Wad Cheber has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
1:01 AM
I may have spoken too soon.
@Shog9 - will that make Obie's messages appear here?
 
@WadCheber that's kinda obvious at this point :P
 
@ryan I don't know if I did it properly.
We'll see soon enough, I suppose.
 
@Shog9 I get you, feeling the crush of pristine snow underfoot is one of lifes natural pleasures.
 
it's the best
 
1:03 AM
@WadCheber looks right to me
 
This looks so weird.
SF&F chat rooms with no Mos Eisley. :(
 
@WadCheber no
 
@Shog9 I knew I didn't do it right.
 
@WadCheber What's even weirder is that "Off topic is on topic" is now one of the most active rooms on the whole SE network!
 
@WadCheber the link you want is scifi.stackexchange.com/feeds
 
1:05 AM
@Shog9 Thank you, sir!
 
Wad Cheber has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Wad Cheber has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
@Shog9 Just paste the link in the address box, right?
 
Wad Cheber has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
Wad Cheber has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
gotham is so weird
 
There we go. We want chat messages, not the slide down ticker.
 
1:07 AM
baby bruce just bosses poor alfred around
 
@Himarm Hey, new avatar!
 
@randal'thor i figured my avatar was ontopic :P
 
@Himarm yeah, but you know he's gonna grow up to be Archer, so it all makes sense.
 
@Himarm I don't recognise it, sorry.
 
@Shog9 on the weekends hes flash too
 
1:08 AM
@Wad @Richard Given the room name, is it allowed to ask on-topic questions in here?
 
@randal'thor The room name actually means that because on topic is off topic here, it becomes on topic again, by virtue of being off topic.
 
PARADOX!
 
1
Q: Do Oankali have DNA based genetics?

zipquincyIn Octavia Butler's Lilith's Brood series, do the Oankali have DNA as their prime mechanism of genetics? If so, did Butler ever explained how that would be the case (is this panspermia related, did Oankali seed Earth)? From a science point of view, it seems unlikely DNA specifically would evo...

1
Q: When Jodahs is morphing to different forms, are those from past species?

zipquincyAt one point in Imago, Jodahs is drifting through different physical forms: aquatic, scaled, four legged, etc. Are these based on species that the Oankali traded with in the past? Or just random biological drift?

1
Q: Did Butler ever explain how the Oankali sex system evolved?

zipquincyThe Oankali system of sex (w/ Ooloi as a third sex, and from three to five members involved in mating, w/ two from another species) is interesting but I am having trouble thinking of how it would evolve. Did Butler ever explore how such a system would evolve?

2
Q: How many characters in Dune are fictionalizations of real people?

William EwingIn the appendices to Dune, Frank Herbert refers to a book by Pander Oulson, a transparent anagram of Poul Anderson. How many other characters, major, minor, or single appearance, are fictionalizations of real people, whether tuckerized, roman à clef, or other disguise?

0
Q: Did other alien races ascend?

Corey KellyDo we ever hear or find evidence in the Stargate series that other alien races ascended. I know that a goa'uld once ascended but with help! Do we know of anyone else that was able to ascend except the people that were helped to do it? Because from what I know only the alterens are the only peopl...

 
FFS, OBIE!
@StackExchange Yes
@StackExchange Yes
@StackExchange Yes
@StackExchange Seven
@StackExchange No.
 
More like recursion than a paradox
 
1:15 AM
Parablepsis.
Fun (hermeneutical) fact of the day: parablepsis + homoeoteleuton = haplography
 
@WadCheber Are you sure? Maybe the Furlings did and that's why no one has seen one.
 
@Xantec I have no idea what the questions is actually asking.
 
@WadCheber I wouldn't have known.
 
@Xantec :)
1 message moved to Trash
 
I have a question about a location that appears in an SFF work. I want to ask whether this place really exists. Is that kosher, or is it off-topic since it's about the real world?
Or is it on-topic if the answer's no, off-topic if the answer's yes?
 
1:23 AM
@randal'thor I'd say it's okay, but that's me.
 
@randal'thor The "scientific/real world explanations are off topic unless they're not" rule has always been a mystery to me.
 
Mike might be the best to ask, since he recently tried to clear up that issue on meta. @Mike what say you?
@Xantec Thanks. If nobody else yells at me to say it's off-topic, I'll go ahead and post it.
 
@randal'thor i just asked that about harry potter
 
Best advice, when in doubt ask the question. Worst case it'll be VTC'd.
 
Nice room. Feels like I belong in it.
 
1:29 AM
 
6 messages moved to Trash
@MajorStackings You belong everywhere.
 
@Xantec Wow, that's some score ... and don't worry, my question is much better than that! :-)
 
@randal'thor Fun fact of the day, that is the lowest scored closed question on the site.
 
@StackExchange Ominous. Very ominous.
 
1:31 AM
@Xantec - I like Malozzi's answer. "What makes you think that you haven't seen them?"
 
@Xantec I seriously want to undelete that post just so I can downvote it and delete it again.
 
@Xantec You have a statistic for question scores that includes deleted questions?
 
gnight all
 
@Richard Later days.
 
@randal'thor Indeed I do.
 
1:34 AM
@Richard Wait! Did you get your bowling equipment?
 
@randal'thor that's not really a "real world science" question. That's a much more clear-cut "behind the scenes/fandom" question, those are always on-topic.
 
@Richard Night!
@MikeEdenfield I just asked it.
 
@Richard This confuses me.
 
@WadCheber There is probably a pill for that.
 
It has a negative score though:
-1
Q: The Zygon Invasion/Inversion: is Truth or Consequences a real place?

rand al'thorIn the Doctor Who episodes The Zygon Invasion and The Zygon Inversion (series 9 episodes 7-8), the US town of Truth or Consequences features heavily, its name being used as the slogan for a Zygon rebellion. According to Clara (from The Zygon Invasion transcript): JAC: Truth or consequences. W...

 
1:39 AM
@randal'thor Because self answers always do.
 
I would say the -1 is because you asked and self-answered a question that can be trivially answered by google maps.
3
 
@MikeEdenfield Exactly.
 
But the -1 came before I posted my answer!
Jason beat me to it anyway.
 
because the question showed a lack of research :)
 
1:41 AM
How did I scoop you on your own question? — Jason Baker 3 mins ago
 
> The town's name was changed from "Hot Springs" to "Truth or Consequences" on March 31, 1950, after Ralph Edwards, the host of the popular game show "Truth or Consequences," called for any town in America to do so - in celebration of the show's ten year anniversary.
 
@randal'thor You actually could have asked that question here and I would have said "Yes, and the name was adopted after a television show of the same name essentially dared every town in America to rename itself after the show. Only one did."
 
not quite.
 
@MikeEdenfield To be honest "Hot Springs" wasn't very creative of them either.
 
Ahhhh. I am a cornflake peer onner. This makes a certain amount of sense. Carry on.
 
1:43 AM
@MajorStackings Check out the top pinned message too ------->
I mean, wtf?
 
@randal'thor The first time I went to New Mexico, I saw the town on a road map. I told my dad it was the coolest name ever, and reeked of the Wild West, and he said "There was a game show called 'Truth or Consequences'". I googled it and found the story.
 
@WadCheber Post an answer! :-)
 
1
Q: The Zygon Invasion/Inversion: is Truth or Consequences a real place?

rand al'thorIn the Doctor Who episodes The Zygon Invasion and The Zygon Inversion (series 9 episodes 7-8), the US town of Truth or Consequences features heavily, its name being used as the slogan for a Zygon rebellion. According to Clara (from The Zygon Invasion transcript): JAC: Truth or consequences. W...

 
I was disappointed that the name was more recent than the Wild West, and was not actually a threat to kill any shady characters who showed up.
 
@randal'thor Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Or more simply, somebody let their panties get in a bind.
2
 
1:47 AM
@randal'thor The answer would be "Yes, what they said".
 
@WadCheber Personal experience is worth an upvote in my book.
 
@randal'thor - there are two other town names I fell in love with in NM and Arizona. I forget which is where, but the names are "Pie Town" and "Tuba City".
 
Dinner guest has arrived. I must depart. Later.
 
I don't know where "Tuba City" got its name, but legend has it that there was a town with a hotel that was famous for having the best pies anyone had ever eaten, so they named the town after pie.
 
@WadCheber I bet that's a PR story made up by the hotel.
 
1:51 AM
Pie Town is an unincorporated community and census-designated place located along U.S. Highway 60 in Catron County, New Mexico, United States. As of the 2010 census it had a population of 186. Its name comes from an early bakery for making dried-apple pies that was established by Clyde Norman in the early 1920s. Pie Town has been noted for its colorful place name. Pie Town is the location of a "Pie Festival" on the second Saturday of each September. Pie Town is also located immediately north of the Gila National Forest and not very far west of the Plains of San Agustin, the location of the Very...
Tuba City (Navajo: Tó Naneesdizí) is an unincorporated town in Coconino County, Arizona, on Navajo lands, in the United States. It is the second-largest community in Coconino County. The population of the census-designated place (CDP) was 8,611 at the 2010 census. It is the Navajo Nation's largest community, slightly larger than Shiprock, New Mexico, and the headquarters of the Western Navajo Agency. The Hopi town of Moenkopi lies directly to its southeast. The name of the town honors Tuuvi, a Hopi headman from Oraibi who converted to Mormonism. The Navajo name for Tuba City, Tó Naneesdizí translates...
 
00:00 - 02:0002:00 - 14:00

« first day