The Nineteenth Byte

Thomas Kwa

8:02 PM

@quartata it's easy to mortarboard if you post something slightly clever, but popular

for example my codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/52080/…

TheDoctor

-1 because your avatar is subliminal messaging — TheDoctor 15 mins ago

Κριτικσι Λίθος

Good night!

VTCAKAVSMoACE

:c 369 Rep.

Beta Decay

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος Good nacht

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος Night!

Anonymous

8:06 PM

Night dfhkjasnfkjdbfjdsfn

Optimizer

bacon risk in perspective: bacon increases risk of colorectal cancer in men over 50 from 0.68% to 0.8%. smoking increases cancer risk 2000%

Tweeted by DigDigCrunch on October 26, 2015 at 6:48 PM

Thomas Kwa

Hey, they're comparing percent to percentage points. Not cool.

Optimizer

alright guys, I think we all know what to do now

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Get cancer?

Optimizer

@ThomasKwa ?

Anonymous

8:08 PM

Smoke bacon?

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Optimizer

@VTCAKAVSMoACE well, stop smoking for starters.

Thomas Kwa

Should be "bacon increases risk[...] by 18%"

quartata

needs more bacon

Optimizer

@ThomasKwa how do you know?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Optimizer I'm well aware - I'm not suggesting we smoke, I'm suggesting we eat much more bacon.

quartata

8:10 PM

So what happens when you smoke bacon?

Optimizer

yes, you are right

18% vs 2000%

Anonymous

@quartata ಠ_ಠ I already made that joke

Optimizer

@Mego he was asking you only

New Main Posts

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Q: Rock Paper Scissors Tournament Kattis

Hi I have been looking everywhere, to determine what is considered undefined as specified in : https://open.kattis.com/problems/rockpaperscissors I pass the first test, but keep failing the second. I originally thought I failed the second test because I only allowed two players in total which we...

java

quartata

@Mego Thatha

Anonymous

8:11 PM

ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

One day we won't have any off-topic posts

Anonymous

And it will be great

Anonymous

Probably the same day we graduate

El'endia Starman

@NewMainPosts Wah! Missed my chance to cast the last close vote!

Thomas Kwa

@Optimizer Of course, the article could also be saying that male smokers over 50 get an average of 20.0068 colorectal cancers each.

Anonymous

8:13 PM

@ThomasKwa Man I hate it when all 20.68 of my colons get cancer

quartata

hl3 mother 4 and graduation will happen all on the same day: the heat death of the universe

Optimizer

@Mego November 1st?

Anonymous

@Optimizer Of course

Anonymous

Man that's in under a week, we need to get decorating

Optimizer

BRING OUT ALL OF YOUR STARS

Anonymous

8:15 PM

Sorry I'm fresh out of those, and I hear Doorknob bans people for asking for more

quartata

We arent graduating on November 1st that was @Geobits trolllin

Anonymous

@quartata shh yes we are

Optimizer

@quartata flags as offensive

quartata

But we arent..

Optimizer

1 min ago, by Optimizer

@quartata flags as offensive

Dennis

8:17 PM

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quartata

.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

22 secs ago, by Optimizer

1 min ago, by Optimizer

@quartata flags as offensive

Optimizer

See! even the mods are participating. We must actually be graduating!

VTCAKAVSMoACE

I wonder how many levels that supports. O.o

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Kinda unlimited, I think.

Anonymous

8:19 PM

1 min ago, by VTCAKAVSMoACE

22 secs ago, by Optimizer

1 min ago, by Optimizer

@quartata flags as offensive

Anonymous

Oops

VTCAKAVSMoACE

:o Shiny. Approved.

El'endia Starman

I once did a repeated quote that got up to 12 levels or so.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

:D

El'endia Starman

I would, however, suggest NOT doing that here. :P

Optimizer

8:20 PM

quoteception

Anonymous

Quote pyramids are always bad

Optimizer

> pyramid

^ these?

Anonymous

ಠ_ಠ

Dennis

@ಠ_ಠ

quartata

1 0={"Graduating"}?

Optimizer

8:22 PM

True

El'endia Starman

@BetaDecay's snowflake should really be called "Beta's Octagon".

Anonymous

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Q: The obstacle course

The obstacle course You are currently stuck in some kind of course and you have to escape. However, if you do not choose the fastest way then the exit will close in front of you. Your challenge is to find the fastest route in an obstacle course. Input Your input consists of a list with lists i...

code-golf path-finding

El'endia Starman

Anonymous

Hey look, an application for Dijkstra's algorithm!

minxomat

@El'endiaStarman What a beautiful winter day, it's octagoning everywhere. Let's build a Octagonman...

quartata

8:25 PM

0 0={"Not "}?"Graduating" CJam doesnt lie folks.

cjam-is-right

wat

Anonymous

No space

Anonymous

cjam-is-right

Optimizer

alex-is-cjam

quartata

Cant edit on mobile great..

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Q: The obstacle course

The obstacle course You are currently stuck in some kind of course and you have to escape. However, if you do not choose the fastest way then the exit will close in front of you. Your challenge is to find the fastest route in an obstacle course. Input Your input consists of a list with lists i...

code-golf path-finding

Dennis

8:28 PM

@quartata How are you chatting? From the browser?

Anonymous

@NewMainPosts slowest bot in the west

Thomas Kwa

@quartata click the bottom left button, then there should be an "edit last" button.

quartata

My last one was wat though.

@Dennis yes

Dennis

What kind of phone?

quartata

android

Dennis

8:29 PM

Try ChatSEy.

It's much better than the in-browser chat.

And Android rules!

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VTCAKAVSMoACE

^

quartata

@Optimizer Thatha

Optimizer

anyone watches animes?

El'endia Starman

I've watched a few.

Optimizer

"present tense"

Pietu1998

8:33 PM

I personally prefer Android over any other current mobile OS, as I like to have the freedom it offers. The only other one I might be able to use daily is jailbroken iOS, but the iPayTooMuch devices are way too overpriced (also, jailbreaking isn't actually the thing Apple wants you to do).

^--- my monologue weakly related to the messages 5 minutes ago

Optimizer

I don't know, but I like Windows Phone

I used ot like iOS second, but then Material design came along

Dennis

Windows Phone itself isn't that bad, but the app store is pretty much empty.

Pietu1998

^

Doorknob

@Dennis carrot.svg

Thomas Kwa

So I'm trying to golf down my APL solution to Dropsort

Dennis

8:35 PM

It would also require me to install Windows just to update my phone. :/

Optimizer

@Dennis "pretty much" was last year, its okay now

nothing as great as others though

@Dennis what? no

Pietu1998

Also, the limitations on the WinPhone OS and SDK (like no drawing on other apps, no good filesystem access, etc.) are too irritating. Not to mention the Windows 10 thing.

Thomas Kwa

and I found this interpreter called NARS2000 that has multiset APL operations

Optimizer

its OTA on the phone. No laptop connection required

Thomas Kwa

but I have a Mac, and I don't know how to use Wine to run it.

Optimizer

8:37 PM

@Pietu1998 again. last year, maybe. FS access is pretty much better than Android and ios now

Pietu1998

@Optimizer Really? What version of WP? I'll have to look into it.

Optimizer

maybe not better than android, but at par

Pietu1998

Well, Android gives you access to every single file on the device with root, so you really can't best that

Optimizer

@Pietu1998 what version are you talking about? I have only used 8.1

Dennis

@Optimizer When I updated from WP 7 to 7.5, I needed Zune. If there's a Zune-free way, I'm not aware of it.

Optimizer

8:38 PM

@Pietu1998 I don't think so that there is something equi to root in Windows, but apart from system files, everything is accessible

Pietu1998

@Optimizer I have used 7.something and 8.something when trying to work out how some people's phones work

Optimizer

@Dennis Zune is long dead

I think what brings down Windows Phone ecosystem is that people make first impressions.. and barely update their opinions

mbomb007

le sigh

Dennis

@Doorknob Ooh, fancy vector graphics.

Doorknob

It's important that carrot quality does not decrease even as the carrot grows.

Dennis

8:40 PM

@Optimizer Well, after buying a WP and being severely disappointed, I'm not exactly inclined to buy a second one. (Not that I bought the first one. My wife did.)

Optimizer

Did you say the same after buying a gingerbread phone?

(or older)

Dennis

My first Android was ICS.

Optimizer

see the perspective. My first WP was 8.1

Pietu1998

@Optimizer The problem is really the fact that there are few apps for WP -> few people want to use WP -> few people use WP and its apps -> few people want to make apps for WP -> there are few apps for WP

Optimizer

Althouth I like the OS UI concept since 7.5

@Pietu1998 I know, and I srsly think its more of MS fault.

Pietu1998

8:43 PM

If they removed the iPayment of $99/year for making apps it would probably increase the amount of apps made

Optimizer

What would have happened if at launch show, apple watch only had 10 store apps?

Pietu1998

The iSheep would have bought it anyway

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Optimizer

@Pietu1998 iPayment in Windows Phone? are you mixing stuff?

@Pietu1998 but very far away from the extent it was sold now

Pietu1998

@Optimizer No, just noting that MS and Apple have the same developer license pricing and I believe Apple was first

Optimizer

The way Apple pushes developers to develop apps is incredible.

msdn.microsoft.com/en-in/library/windows/apps/…

doesnt talk about per year, but 19$ option is also there

talking about iWasteMoney, has anyone checked out Gear S2?

Pietu1998

8:47 PM

Nope

Optimizer

the dial based input is really amazing

sigh that it doesn't run on Wear

Pietu1998

Speaking of Samsung, the S6 is cool, but I still think it's a step in the wrong direction

Like making the battery really hard to replace.

Dennis

Samsung is way too expensive for me...

Optimizer

Anything is way too expensive for you

given your currency rate

Pietu1998

Same here. I currently have an OnePlus One, and it's great. The OnePlus 2 doesn't look that good, though.

Dennis

8:51 PM

I also have a OnePlus One, and I'm very happy with it.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Quine / Reverse Quine Write a complete program that takes a boolean or integer input. It must: Output its own source code if the input value is 0 or false Output its own source code in reverse otherwise Your program cannot be palindromic, nor can it read its own source code. This is code go...

mbomb007

This may or may not brighten your day. Some of these people failed so hard that it makes me wince.

gifs-of-people-who-are-definitely-not-using-an-escalator-correctly

Optimizer

first one is - when life makes you fall, but you still go up

mbomb007

@Optimizer Yeah, the first one is the most popular

Optimizer

gosh, 4th

mbomb007

8:55 PM

^ that's why I said "may not"

Some of these people are stupid enough to earn a posthumous Darwin award

Pietu1998

@mbomb007 Some of these feel weirdly familiar to me

Optimizer

last one - dogs can be so stupid at times

mbomb007

@Pietu1998 I've seen at least the first one before, but many escalator fails are similar, so I don't know if I've seen the others before or just similar ones.

@Optimizer That graph gave me cancer.

Optimizer

@mbomb007 it also saved you from cancer

Pietu1998

^

VTCAKAVSMoACE

9:01 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Quine / Reverse Quine Write a complete program that takes a boolean or integer input. It must: Output its own source code if the input value is 0 or false Output its own source code in reverse otherwise Your program cannot be palindromic, nor can it read its own source code by any means. Th...

Is my last point on this sandbox question having nothing to do with punctuation valid?

Optimizer

@VTCAKAVSMoACE your last point is in this line

El'endia Starman

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Huh? You didn't say anything about punctuation on that post.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Optimizer @El'endiaStarman It was to counteract Optimizer's point.

You answered my question. :P Don't worry.

Optimizer

Spaces are still winning

Doorknob

> More than 10 answers posted to this question in the past 7 days – Community♦ Sep 5 '14 at 3:24, Community♦, Community♦ and 42 other users

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This is really getting old...

(^ on the Sandbox)

Optimizer

9:12 PM

link?

El'endia Starman

@Optimizer It's an auto-flag.

Doorknob

... hmmmmm, the "suspend" button isn't disabled for Community.

I wonder how badly the site would break if I... :D

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El'endia Starman

LOL.

mbomb007

Why does @Sandbox own the Sandbox instead of just @Community?

Doorknob

because I can't log into Community

and therefore I can't ask a question from Community's account for the sandbox to be merged into

El'endia Starman

9:19 PM

There's also no way to give the question to Community.

mbomb007

Oh

El'endia Starman

Community would flag its own question anyway...

Martin Büttner

I finally got around to writing a reference implementation for this in order to generate test cases:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The Combinatorics of Transistor code-golf combinatoricsgame The video game Transistor features a very interesting ability system. You collect 16 "Functions" which you can use in 16 different slots. What's interesting is that there are 3 types of slots and every Function behaves differently acco...

Would someone with reasonable combinatorics skills mind double checking the test cases though?

Beta Decay

walks out of room

Doorknob

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El'endia Starman

9:26 PM

^ and ^^

Martin Büttner

calling @Peter and @xnor because the two of you have spent some thought on that challenge proposal before. feel free to ignore this though ;)

Thomas Kwa

@MartinBüttner I know a little combinatorics; I'll give it a shot.

mbomb007

@MartinBüttner So would you recommend Transistor, then? I thought it looked interesting when I saw it released on Steam.

Martin Büttner

@mbomb007 I never got around to finishing it, but I really enjoyed it as far as I played it. Have you played Bastion?

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob Just noticed that his shoes match the carpet.

mbomb007

9:37 PM

@MartinBüttner I have not.

Is it similar?

Thomas Kwa

Is jN*2]"jN*2] still the shortest Pyth quine?

Martin Büttner

@mbomb007 Sort of. Same studio, same engine, remotely similar aesthetics, but quite different gameplay.

Bastion has one of the best narrations and soundtracks in recent games I think. (I finished that one - definitely worth playing.)

El'endia Starman

@ThomasKwa gasp Minkolang is shorter for once! "66*2-(O). 10 bytes compared with 11!!!

@Sp3000's Gol><> would have an even shorter quine. :P

Peter Taylor

@MartinBüttner Sorry, the only thing I have time for today is frantically porting a work-in-progress answer to codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/60942/194 from C# to C.

Martin Büttner

@PeterTaylor no problem

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