No meta post tonight; got busy with editing and lost track of the time. Tomorrow is another day. :-)

Often answers include a link to Hebrewbooks with the text. Should we bother including these (as footnotes) in the publication?

I did so in this one, but @Monica left them out in this, for example.

If we decide not to include them, i think that we should at least say "check Hebrewbooks.org - they have lots of sources" somewhere.

@Scimonster I've been leaving them out because the URLs are unwieldy and because of what @IsaacMoses said. A mention somewhere of Hebrewbooks seems reasonable to me (maybe in acknowledgements?).

@MonicaCellio I'm expecting that I'll be requesting more copies be"h and b"n.

@Scimonster I would just cite the sefer with the appropriate page (or other location device), author, and publication info.

@IsaacMoses Would edition info (per my above comment to Scimonster) also be appropriate for footnotes?

I am more than willing to do proofreading, footnote editing, typography et c. if necessary. I use mainly Pages and InDesign if it makes any difference, though.

@NoachmiFrankfurt I guess if it's necessary for locating the cited information

@NoachmiFrankfurt Thanks! Your help in proofreading and footnote editing will be most welcome!

@NoachmiFrankfurt that's great! Is this because you've found more places to distribute or because you think the demand is higher at the places you originally had in mind? If it's the former and you've got any tips to share (like how you approached other shuls, or whatever), we'd benefit from hearing them. Thanks!

@NoachmiFrankfurt thank you for your help! The current phase of the project, as you've seen, is editing material from the site into book-ready form. There'll then be a second pass where people who didn't do the original work will review and correct. Please feel free to jump into either or both!

Oh, I forgot that we have a feed for that.

@MonicaCellio I'm reaching out to other places. I suspect that if I'm able to get Harvard Hillel on board for this, they'll want more than 100 copies.

^^ It's been a week. I went ahead and accepted this answer. Let's start using this title, especially for asking people to help.

Should Twtitter account @mi_yodeya reach out to its public with the "Can you help distribute?"?

@IsaacMoses Should we start calling it the Days of Awe Publication? Change the name of this room? The tag?

@DoubleAA I think so. Days of Awe - Mi Yodeya?

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@NoachmiFrankfurt sounds good to me. That'd be a great channel for getting copies to appreciative readers.

@IsaacMoses sounds good to me.

Copy to consider for a donation solicitation: "In round terms, printing and shipping each booklet will cost about $3. So, thanks to Stack Exchange's generous offer to double-match your donation, each dollar you donate will enable one more person to pick up this booklet in the synagogue, read it, abd share it at home."

Also, the solicitation should mention all of the volunteer effort: communal writing and editing of content, curating and editing the booklet, and distribution.

What do people think about that?

@Daniel I think this publication in particular has the most value in print-distribution, due to the number of people going to shul and spending so much time there. I also think we should avoid having money sitting around, since keeping track of and being responsible for that is a burden on whoever has to do it.

@IsaacMoses Fair enough

Although I do think that a print version of updated Haggadah Mi Yodeya would be great (especially if it could be a full hagaddah with Mi Yodeya QA as the commentary)

@Daniel Yeah, that would be cool. A full, bound hagada would be awesome and is something we should do, someday, probably as a book for sale rather than a free booklet for shul-distribution

@IsaacMoses agreed. I would definitely pay for that

@Daniel it would be great if someday we did a full haggadah with Mi Yodeya content and put it up somewhere for sale (POD or whatever) -- not to make money but to make it readily available.

but then we have this problem

@IsaacMoses abd -> and

@MonicaCellio POD = Print on Demand?

@TRiG Thanks :) I'm going to take this proofreading of a chat message as a shot across this project's bow, indicating an intention to board.

@IsaacMoses I'll probably be around.

I might even have a working home computer ;)

@TRiG yes. People buy single copies of new haggadot all the time; we don't want to be in the fulfillment business for that.

@TRiG it'd be great to have your help again!

Your attention to detail is really helpful.

@MonicaCellio An alternative would be to partner with an actual publishing house and let them handle fulfillment and all the other logistical stuff.

@IsaacMoses They usually do print runs, and then go out of print until there's enough demand for a new run. At least with POD they don't go out of print. Of course, you could do both: with fully CC content, there's no guarantee of exclusivity anyway.

@IsaacMoses oh, that'd be great! And we'd benefit from their promotional skills. I've no idea how hard it is to make that happen, but we should look into that.

(Hmm. I wonder whether the selection of material counts as something that can come under copyright. If you select a bunch of material from this site and publish it, and then I select exactly the same material and publish it (i.e., make a direct copy of your publication), could you sue me? Probably not, because the SA clause in the license means that your derivative work must also be BY-SA.)

@TRiG Oh, that's a good point. The "Sharealike" part of SE's CC license means that the book would have to be under the same license, which most publishers would not be into.

@TRiG FWIW, our publications do more than select. They also edit, adapt, remix, and in case of a printed Hagada, would supplement with material from other sources.

And proofread. Mustn't forget the proofreading. That's some good value-added, right there.

@IsaacMoses Meaning that your current Hagada publication is not actually a full Hagada, merely a Hagada supplement?

@TRiG Yes. "Hagada" generally refers to the core traditional text or to a specific volume that presents it along with supplementary text/commentary/whatever.

@TRiG Yes it doesn't actually have any of the text of the hagaddah. Just discussion about it

... although there are publications these days that are called "Hagadas" but have branched off into making limited reference to the traditional text, substituting whatever the author recommends as Seder reading material instead.

You need to bring your own hagaddah along

@IsaacMoses (including ours)

@Daniel (I meant specifically the ones that provide substitute, rather than just supplementary, materials. Message updated.)

@Daniel This comment replies to a pre-edited version of the chat message

@IsaacMoses ah you beat me to that

> Our companion to the Passover Hagada, featuring questions practice, lore, and thought spanning the Seder, from preparations to closing.

companion to

Fairy Nuff

The haggadah supplement was our first publication project. We talked about doing a full haggadah then, adding our content to the traditional text, but it was our first project, that's a lot more work, and we weren't sure what we could actually accomplish -- especially in the short time we had then, because good ideas tend to strike from ambush instead of giving plenty of notice. So we opted for the supplement, with the idea that we might do a full haggadah later.

Can doa-project be added to this room's tag list?

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@Scimonster Is there a way to do that with meta-tags?

@IsaacMoses Not sure.

Nope. :(

Err, "DOA" has a rather unfortunate connotation. Since that tag name will ultimately be visible on the downloads page, might I suggest the more-verbose "days-of-awe-project"?

I'll accept blame for starting down the abbreviation path with "hhd-project", which was partly a side-step of the "holy-days/holidays" dispute.

@MonicaCellio please

What was done to turn hhd-project into doa-project? Was that a tag merge? (Apparently either the tools are not informative enough to record who did it or I have not figured out how to use them to find out.)

@MonicaCellio I assume @DoubleAA did it.

Oh, found it -- DoubleAA did it. Ok, now that I know what he did, I know what to further do.

This'll probably break the chat linkage again.

@IsaacMoses done.

@MonicaCellio Thanks

@MonicaCellio Not sure if it would, but I've updated the feed point, just in case

I don't know that part of chat well. I was drawing conclusions from the fact that you did something to the feeds earlier today. Though maybe that was an initial add and not an edit?

@MonicaCellio Earlier today, I changed the "room topic" - the title and blurb

I saw "doa-project" in there so wasn't sure. Anyway, fixed now -- thanks.

@IsaacMoses @MonicaCellio Yes that was me. The old hhd synonym should still be in place.

@DoubleAA yes, it is. I renamed your rename and didn't add a new synonym for the doa version.

May I suggest adding the following to this post, especially in light of the recent twitter post:

> (If you want to help distribute but aren't a Mi Yodeya user, or you just don't want to post your location in public, email the mods at [email protected] and we can try and work with you.)

@DoubleAA That's already in the question, but if you feel that it would be more clear to have it in the answer, too, I don't see any reason not to [edit], other than redundancy.

@IsaacMoses Ha Well I missed it just now in the question, if that's any indication. Don't know if I saw it last time or not.

@DoubleAA Edited