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12:00 AM
The cable ISP recently rolled out upgrades, so now even the cheapest plan is about 4x as fast as our DSL connection
As for me, I use Yahoo Mail so I do not need to make any major changes on my end.
 
12:52 AM
@DragonLord cable (comcast) here went up in price again, i could sort of see that comming as they increased the speed. now paying ~60$USD instead of ~45$ total.
I have been tempted time and time again to find a cheaper service, that still could cope with the downloading , most of the time i do not mind if downloading is a long term backgrounded thing, as long as it gets done that day :-) or so.
 
@Psycogeek It's Time Warner Cable here in New York. Thanks to the TWC Maxx upgrades, Everyday Low Price (lowest speed tier, $15 a month) went from 2 Mbps to 3 Mbps.
Our Verizon HSI service really sucks and I'm hoping my family can switch soon.
It's only getting about 768 Kbps and tends to be very unreliable.
The connection goes down on a regular basis and we have to reset the modem at least once every few days.
 
That is a great price, comcast was trying to buy out Time warner, given it an unprecidented monopoly, which it basically already has in the areas it serves. the monopoly would be country wide then.
 
Once again, though, we have to do a big email switch.
 
Much of the ISP pricing is only for the first 6mo or first year, then you CAN up and drop it, but if you had real speed then, your hooked.
 
Everyday Low Price is just that. The price is stable.
 
12:59 AM
You cannot allow the e-mail issue which anyone would have when switching an ISP to effect your "choice". Offline the whole thing from the server, then just change to the new address?
 
@Psycogeek All the accounts associated with that email need to be adjusted. That's the hard part.
Getting other people to send email to a new address is easy—all that takes is an automated reply message and a broadcast email.
 
I get 6 e-mails with the cable ISP, and it would be a pain in the butt to change them, and inform people what the new is, but the least problem would be the server, because it is all local . It only stays on the server (as backup) for 30 day, and resides locally. 30 days covers the monthly backup of the whole OS partition , which includes programs and e-mail . but not user file items.
@DragonLord Ohhh the online log-in account stuff , yea i see.
Most of the insecure online log-in (no money involved) i use the throw away online addresses for , like hotmail and gmail.
-Comcast, Time Warner Cable nix $45B merger deal-
"Comcast Corp. said Friday that it's ending its $45.2 billion merger agreement with Time Warner Cable, scrapping a giant deal that ran into stiff opposition from consumers and a likely veto from federal regulators."
Ok so it looks like that wont happen this week.
 
 
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2:58 AM
0_0
 
There's a good chance this will lead to a lawsuit.
 
3:36 AM
I wonder .. will Koch brothers manage to complete the USA transition into a 3rd world country or not, before they kick the bucket
 
<pedant> The usa can never be a 3rd world country. The term was used incorrectly to mean a poor country. The First world refers to countries allied with the USA, and the 2nd world was the communist countries. Third world nations were unaligned. You probably mean a failed state </pedant>
;p
 
3:51 AM
probably , yes
it seems that there is a huge difference between europian billionaires and us billionaires (except Elon Musk, that is)
 
meh, that's a false dichotomy
 
hmm .. could be
 
4:17 AM
hm, 72.81 spent on the steam summer sale so far. Not bad.
 
what did you get?
 
4:45 AM
Transistor, wasteland 2, and the two newer wolfenstein games
I'll get arkham knight if they discount it a little more, its at 10%, 30%'s my minimum.
(I tend to set myself a 100 dollar budget during sales but least this time I can afford to go over if anything really interesting happens)
 
Was the Transistor at some point on Daily Deals?
well .. .I actually have that one already .. bought few month ago with wither 75% or 80% discount
only other game that I intend to buy from your list is the Wolfenstain (the one that's not Old blood)
 
40% off
 
then just don't play it now
 
Oh, that's Wolfenstein the new order is 75% off at the moment
 
you will be able re refund it if it does on daily deal (40% is way too small of a discount)
 
4:57 AM
meh, already played it ;p
 
2h+ ?
 
40% is fine by me
Probably
I think I'm midway through the game
oh, also got wasteland 2 at 50% off
 
I decided not to pick the Wasteland on this sale. Watched some reviews and it seems to have a really slow start
it might end up just rotting in my library
I am waiting for Age of Wonders3 or maybe Divinity: Original Sin to go on sale
.. maybe Shadow of Mordor
for now I have only picked up the Metro franchise pack
 
shadow or mordor's main campaign is a blast
I didn't find the expansion as fun tho
 
6:01 AM
test
 
Bob
too many horror games :(
 
 
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7:17 AM
Any great cheap games ?
I got about 10$ from selling tf2 stuff :D
 
Depends on what interests you ;p
 
7:39 AM
well i like to shoot at stuff
And I liked Dota
I don't know ._.
 
hm. Anyone moved a wordpress blog before?
(I'm trying to figure out if I need to recreate the user or just import the mysql dump)
 
8:04 AM
@HackToHell ever play dead island , create weapons, beat zombies with it, actually open world with only slightly linear gameplay, Grafics are not realism , not cartoon but much colorfull and visable. Versions of that should be cheap, as it does not review well but it is rather fun.
At least playing 1 of the STALKER series, another underrated but quite open world, that is weak grafics but great gameplay. Shooter
 
8:26 AM
@Psycogeek I have to make weapons ?
That makes it boring ish
 
yes both of them you can stop and think at various times
The one i remember most as never thinking , and probably cheaper now, would be Binary Domain all crasy all the time.
I did not like that one much , because I stopped playing one day, started a few days later, and when starting again i had forgot some things and was basically in the middle of an alien war zone. Uhh yea this weapon works like . . .Your Dead Again.
 
8:45 AM
oh, I do like open world games. I sorta hate it when i have to craft and stuff
 
I have binary domain off the sega sale
didn't quite grok the controls
 
@HackToHell then you would like neither of those 2 , because you spend at least 1/2 your time collecting stuff , crafting and doing milkruns with 50 things trying to kill you.
 
That sucks, GTA like games rock
i did like Left 4 dead 2
 
Yea left4dead is the ultimate in grab a gun and go style.
the Prototype series was much madness too, console game style, more melee based, much oddly different (at first) with the weapons, crasy fast action going on the screen, even if not as much of it is me doing it :-)
Some games it is all about how you want to play and the weapon selection, Rage , another that should be cheap, you could rambo or be more careful. Another one that was unexpectedly more fun. Heck many of the games your either a sharpshooter, or you will run out of ammo and spend time looking for it at least.
Watching movies sometimes , i wonder where they left the ammo crate :-) Blew through that clip didnt ya , and you didnt even have to reload. This comming from having watched at least a few movies where the Hero knows they burned through the 13 bullet clip, and like Clint eastwood, was that 5 or 6 rounds.
So on one side I can understand that 1 man taking down a whole army would need to be pulling behind them a little red wagon with 6 ammo crates , on the other side 1 bullet in that huge alien brain should be doing the job.
ARMA is now fully developed, fps battle simulation, that may very well be too damn realistic to be any real fun. limping back to base with your face shot off from just one bullet.
 
9:25 AM
Hard Reset was another rambo with a machine gun style, fast paced action, lots of crasy aliens trying to kill ya.
It could be called Hard Redo :-) because you will die.
 
 
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10:38 AM
Does anyone know who invented shingled magnetic recording (SMR)?
 
@Psycogeek It makes me sorta dizzy
Playing fps in an indoor environment makes me dizzy
@Psycogeek Too bloody expensive
 
 
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crl
12:00 PM
Hi guys, I had to restore a pc of a friend completely infested by viruses, I did a recovery (there's something in the F11 boot menu for that with HP), there's by default McAfee, but it seems to slower the pc, and anyway he managed to get all those virus with it anyway. So what should I get on his pc to protect him besides telling him to be more careful? I'm thinking of just making him use windows defender, and spybot S&D
 
that's what I did
Also, make him use a limited account by default.
 
crl
Right, good idea, thanks
 
12:47 PM
Why does this question of mine have 3 downvotes? superuser.com/questions/754119/…
and the answer which I gave to my question, has one downvote!
 
The question and answer both require thinking. That is hard. Lets downvote.
(which would be sad if that actually is the reason)
 
1:35 PM
@barlop wow people had been using the word "repair install" so i just applied that word, if it doesnt have it ??? I always before called it a "Lapped Install" to install over the present system, and I will do it right from the GUI While in windows itself, just clicking icons. But ya see now i have been using the words repair install, which is the same thing.
I think you just run setup, and pick the partition the os is already on. With a full clone image i only ever would do that 2 times in the life of the OS version, so i canot be sure all the steps. I can tell you it is fully possible to install right on top of your old system partition, and not lose registry , programs or user file items. It will Repair a broken operating system, then you just finish up by insuring all the undates are done.
Back in XP i had done that one time also, when (dllhell) removing some subsystem packages removed the originals, so i had broke the original parts and pieces by agressive uninstalling. Did that same thing then, just ran the setuo, picked SomeThing (i forget wehat) and lapped the install right over the functional system. . . . then sombody told me about the repair install, and i think i used that method one time.
I think the idea here is MS would not want to be party to destroying your system and loosing your files, so like installing any other program, you just dont format.
If accidentally running setup off the disk destroyed everything, we may have heard of a few people doing that.
Instead they accidentally also format , which is a given.
How does it differ from installing any other program? it does the install while out of the system, the system that it is, which it couldnt do while it is runnning. but the install breakout is to ramdisk and spare holes on the hard drive (wont effect what is there), the install is to where you point it.
Because of those other stupid unnessisary partitions , like system (the boot stuff) and recover, we had always formatted First before installing the OS, anyway, so I was in the pattern to not format during the OS install.
 
1:56 PM
@Psycogeek you realize you can't in windows 7? The answer even has screenshots showing that you can't.
there is no repair installation in windows 7, see that answer
I am not quite sure what you were trying to communicate to me with all that stuff you wrote though
you're telling me a story about how you did a repair installation in xp.. so what?
 
Yes you cant by that name, using the XP method maybe, but there are tutorials for doing it too, where they apply that name, but it is indeed again a Lapped Install.
 
If you're saying you can in win7 by another name then can you point to such a tutorial?
i'm 99% sure you can't
 
And it is not the tutorial that ramhound linked to
 
no doubt about that!
 
I have Done it myself, i do not need a tutorial , just had a full clone backup and nothing to lose, it works great.
But i have seen in passing a tutorial for doing it, although i did not read it all.
 
2:05 PM
.
you haven't run into the screenshots in the answer there?
I only saw two options, upgrade and custom. Neither did it
If you ever find how you did it then you're welcome to post an answer with where the option is with screenshots
 
hmm ... should I buy Fallen Enchantress ?
 
I agree with your assement that there is not the same as XPs method.
I also do not think the repair option during install seen here does the same thing as a lapped install, or installing right over the top of a system.
 
To be more specific. IIRC Windows 7 apparently has a repair installation but it's not very useful 'cos you can't boot into it
so it's nowhere near as good as XP's repair installation
it's almost useless
it won't repair things if the shit really hits the fan whereas xp's would 'cos it'd work even when the Os wouldn't boot
.
 
But i am telling you next time you have a borked up system, and it wasnt cause by virus infection (remember i am saying stuff/programs there do not change) try installing right over the top of the one there, and see if it unborks it.
 
In what OS?
XP if it doesn't boot, and you boot off a repair install, then it boots
Win7 the repair install is when you can get into windows already. i've never used it it seems pretty useless to me
so which OS are you referring to?
 
2:18 PM
Well that is where my clone comes in, i have 2 clones so to speak, because I do not want to type stuff into a command line. So i can hop over to the second disk with a clone of that system. And if all else fails i could put the image clone back on. So There is no no-boot situation for me ever. I just hop (boot menu) to the other one, and can still do the gui thing.
But given a no-boot situation, you can still boot to the CD? you can "re-Install" using the cd? then attempt to install over the same partition without formatting.
We would do such things all the time for a program that is messing up, winders IS in all essence just a bunch of programs.
 
@Psycogeek There Is no repair installation from the CD that oyu can boot off of. You can boot off the CD but there is no repair installation. If you think there is you're welcome to post an answer with screenshots showing it
 
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A: Recurring BSOD 0x139 KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE in NETIO.SYS (bugcheck analyses within)

DragonLordA repair-install (in-place upgrade to same version) solved the problem. I haven't had any more crashes of this sort since, although extensive work was needed to bring the system up to date again. I was never able to determine the precise cause of the crashes.

 
@Psycogeek and i'm saying there is no repair installation bootable from the CD even going by another name. If you find there is, then you're welcome to answer with screenshots showing it!
 
I do not think what you said is incorrect. sevenforum would be a great place to get a tutroal on it sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html , as you can see they "install now" right over the top, not "repair"
•A System Restore did not help fix your Windows 7.
•There is no other easier option left that can fix your Windows 7.
•You DO NOT want to do a Clean reinstall of Windows 7.
•You DO want to preserve your user accounts, data, programs, and system drivers.
I also have the SP1 version of the CD, I did not realise there was any issue with that, other than having to re-do updates. When Lapped Installing with XP, i certannly had to do the updates again, but all My Stuff and programs stayed.
 
2:34 PM
@Psycogeek READ this sentence "A) While in Windows 7 SP1, insert your retail Windows 7 SP1 installation DVD into the DVD drive,"
So do you see that that link just makes my point
 
yes
•You can only do a repair install from within Windows 7.
•You cannot do a repair install at boot or in Safe Mode
Something i never ran into.
 
So why do you refer me to that link?
 
so why do you think i am arguing with you? Did I downvote you? hell no.
 
that isnt the point, the point is getting stuff working again, when it doesnt.
 
Bob
2:39 PM
> "I’ve got 1GB of memory. Why should I care about memory?"
 
well, I agree a clone is a good idea.
i've set that up for people at times.
 
2:57 PM
@Bob I think that lost its humour like about 20 years even before that article was written
i'm sure you are aware that bill gates made a similar remark, which is famous, and much funnier.
So how you find that one in 2006 funny I do not know
 
Bob
@barlop I don't find the remark itself funny.
I find it amusing that they considered 1GB a lot in '06
 
Bob
(hint: it wasn't that much by then)
 
I think 4gb was the max you could have on a system then, and 2gb was a sensible amount that you didn't really regret till the whole system was obsolete ;p
 
that's a good point actually
 
3:05 PM
Before 64bit virtual addressing , no program could leak out more than 2 Gig at a time :-)
 
Bob
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ugh
I just played Wolfenstein the New order fo ~4 hours straight
oh, that's the time completed
 
@JourneymanGeek I really like that game.
 
are you sure it was not 200? (inside joke :-)
 
5 ;p
@allquixotic: Its fun
(also 50% off during the summer sale XD)
(also, got my blog moved over to a VM on the dedi, yay)
kinda funny that using the wrong keyboard cost me ~as much time as it did on that
 
 
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4:33 PM
Kibana and FLuentd makes up for a great log search thing
Though it needs a good machine to run, elastic search eats a lot of ram
 
4:52 PM
Hiho folks!
Can I ask about hardware upgrades for my computer here? Or should I look somewhere else?
 
@Kerooker sure, ask away
I mean, don't ask on superuser.com, but you can ask in this chat
 
Well, I'm in doubt about which part of hardware I should upgrade my computer
I do have an Athlon II x4 645 processor (3.10ghz) and an AMD Radeon HD 6670 GPU
I would love to know which would be better to trade atm, because I want some more FPS for some games
 
need to know what your budget is; what kind of software you run (games? if so how recent / high-end? development stuff? virtual machines? lots of multitask?); and your full current specs -- best way to give us your specs would be to upload a Speccy profile (see here)
and if you're not in the US, also need to know what country you're in, since that affects availability of products and prices
 
Bob
@allquixotic Also, specific games as examples would help. Different games have completely different CPU, GPU and even RAM & disk IO requirements.
 
Sure thing, will do the Speccy profile and get all the other informations
Speccy: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/OjylA6vAJ2zxG1362So32nL
I have a small budget, around $400
The main software I run are games, not high-ended ones.
I live in Brazil, so the availability might be affected

I mainly play League of Legends, Counter Strike, some platform games and Minecraft. Would love more FPS for CS and Minecraft.
 
5:05 PM
Counterstrike Source? or the original?
@ThatBrazilianGuy you around?
 
Counter Strike GO
 
@Bob plays that game
he should have a pretty good idea of what the system requirements are
 
Bob
o.O
@allquixotic not really... it's generally fairly CPU-heavy but apart from that there's some crazy variance in supposedly-similar systems
especially with updates over the last year :S
 
that Athlon II X4 645 compares close to a Core i3-2100 (sandy bridge) in total passmark, but 33% slower at single-thread perf
 
Bob
it's still a Soruce game, though, so not too GPU-intensive
@allquixotic Yea, that's not gonna do much good for GO
 
5:09 PM
do you think its CPU intensiveness could be bottlenecking?
 
Bob
@allquixotic Depends. What FPS are you getting right now, @Kerooker, and on what quality settings?
@allquixotic Best way to be sure is to log CPU usage while playing, of course.
 
I'm running on all possible low settings, but getting to many fps drops on big fights/multiple players and explosions
too many*
 
Bob
@allquixotic Problem is, both the CPU and GPU are a tad low
The GPU is comparable to a modern iGPU
 
Bob
@Kerooker What's typical FPS, say, staring at a wall?
 
5:13 PM
About 70, @Bob
 
Bob
There's well known issues with massive FPS drops looking at smoke, scoped in, or (god forbid) scoped in on smoke.
Even a normally-100+ can easily drop to 20-30 in that last case.
@Kerooker Hmm...
 
Maybe I should wait for more budget?
 
well he has DDR3-1300 and a mobo with an AM3 socket
 
Bob
You'll definitely benefit from upgrading either part.
 
AM3 won't slot any of the newer APUs, though -- I was going to suggest going with a current-gen APU, which would smoke a 6670 even with on-chip graphics, plus the CPU would be worlds faster
 
Bob
5:16 PM
But it's hard to say which one is more helpful.
I'd guess the CPU.
GO really is a (relatively) CPU-intensive game.
 
honestly, with such a small budget, I think an APU makes sense -- but I don't know if you can get it at the price you're looking for
 
Bob
I'm pretty sure Minecraft is also CPU-bound.
 
whoa, I stand corrected about the APU graphics perf
 
any simulation game will be ultimately CPU bound due to the unbounded number of objects that can exist
 
Bob
5:19 PM
@allquixotic Then @Kerooker will probably benefit most from a CPU upgrade.
 
CPU usage is kept in check with "normal" games because the game rules don't even allow a very high number of objects to exist at one time, by placing hard caps on units, number of players, number of things you can build / throw out / use
 
Bob
But you can probably get a decent CPU upgrade while squeezing in a better GPU too.
Even the lowest-end current-gen GPU should beat that...
 
you can't get a CPU upgrade without replacing that motherboard, though, and I'm not sure if DDR3-1333 will run on a new motherboard
 
Bob
@allquixotic Funny, that. Technically, CS:GO falls into that category, but it still manages to stress the CPU.
 
@Bob Valve fails at optimization
 
Bob
5:20 PM
@allquixotic You don't say :P
 
Should I try to get some more budget and get a new computer, instead of trying to upgrade my old one?
 
they code their games like Gabe Newell eats: heavy.
(fat jokes are fine because I am fat so I'm entitled)
 
Bob
There's so many weird edge cases where FPS drops it's not even funny. Especially for a "competitive" shooter.
 
@Kerooker "new computer" implies you're going to buy a new case, new hard disks, etc... which is totally unnecessary if you're on a strict budget, and almost certainly more expensive than upgrading a few parts
 
Bob
Ya, the core upgrade would be mobo+CPU.
 
5:21 PM
I need to upgrade my motherboard, my RAM and the CPU?
 
Bob
The memory is probably transferable.
The GPU almost certainly is.
 
I ask again: would a modern (say, Intel) CPU be able to use DDR3-1333? @Bob?
or is that too slow?
 
Bob
@allquixotic AFAIK? Yes, as of Haswell-gen.
 
excellent
 
Bob
Assuming the mobo supports it, but the memory controller is on the CPU anyway.
 
5:22 PM
yeah the mobo doesn't matter anymore
as long as it's pin-compatible, which it will be
however, AMD procs are way, way cheaper than Intel procs, and still provide a very huge CPU perf upgrade
 
Bob
> Memory Types DDR3 and DDR3L 1333/1600 at 1.5V
@allquixotic Yea, I know little about AMD procs.
Especially because their website is an absolute disaster.
 
will need to investigate something like A10-7850K vs. i3-haswell or i3-broadwell and compare price vs performance
 
Bob
There's simply no useful information. All marketing crap.
 
ALSO
I remember Jimmy Hoffa raving about how excellent his Haswell Pentium (or was it Ivy?) was... only 2 cores, but with HT, and very high single threaded perf for gaming
that's another low cost option to investigate
 
Bob
@allquixotic Normally min-rec for good CS:GO perf is an i5. Not sure how much difference that is, though - I find many players (even those commenting on specs) appear to simply carry a lot of misconceptions onwards :\
Everyone's learning the same old "facts" that everyone knows is true...
But pretty sure Minecraft can make sure of multiple cores effectively.
And IIRC CS does too, to an extent.
Not sure about LoL, but that doesn't strike me as a particularly intensive game?
 
5:25 PM
the A10-7850K is $129.99 MSRP with 1578 single-thread; the i3-4370 is 2238 single-thread for $148.99
 
Bob
LoL is likely more GPU intensive. But I don't know.
 
@Bob compared to Minecraft and CS GO, LoL is the least of his concerns
 
Bob
Probably, yea.
 
LoL is another one of those games with very strictly bounded resources
 
Bob
MOBAs have some fancy 2D graphics, but that's about it.
 
5:26 PM
literally there's no way to make extra stuff
 
Bob
FPSes are 3D and physics-intensive.
 
the mobs spawn however fast they're gonna spawn
 
Bob
Minecraft is pretty obvious.
 
I trully have no knowledge on any kind of hardware information
 
Bob
@allquixotic Does that include the Brazil tax? :\
 
5:27 PM
So I'll kindda make whatever you guys say ;p
 
well if we're looking at US prices and dealing in USD, I think it would be possible to keep the DDR3-1333, and switch out an AMD mobo for an Intel mobo, (hopefully) keep the PSU, and grab an i3 Haswell, a cheap Haswell mobo, and maybe a little Maxwell GPU
@Bob definitely not
I don't even know if his $400 budget is in USD or if that's in Brazil's currency
 
Bob
@Kerooker Are you looking to buy local, or can you get parts overseas? That might be an easy way to save a bit, based on what @ThatBrazilianGuy says...
 
It's in BRL, but converted to USD
 
you really just need to talk to @ThatBrazilianGuy to figure out what his method is for getting upgrades and stuff
 
I'm looking to buy locally
 
5:28 PM
we can give you advice on the specs, but he knows how to actually get the stuff
 
Bob
@Kerooker Yea, that could be an issue.
 
wonder if i can find him on FB or G+ or something
 
Bob
No idea what'll actually fit in your budget at local prices.
 
*googles his name*
 
Time is not a problem for me, I can buy from Amazon and wait about a month to get the items
 
Bob
5:30 PM
@allquixotic Would an AMD dGPU be cheaper?
@Kerooker Might be a problem if your customs decides to open the package, though?
 
@Bob yes, but the bang for buck comes into question...
 
@Bob I would have to pay a big extra tax if they decide to open... It would be a problem, but it's usually worth the risk
 
ok i friended him on Facebook but I'm not sure if he'll pop on as he gets my email
 
Bob
Yea, two months ago:
> I get 120 fps on an integrated HD 4600
That was some guy on CS:GO.
So, yea... GPU is probably fine. Probably.
> From what I have noticed intel CPUs do way better in CS GO then AMD
 
on low detail I think the GPU requirements are quite low
 
Bob
5:34 PM
wouldn't be surprised if that's the single-core perf speaking
 
@Bob keep in mind, Steam Machines are often Intel iGPUs, and Valve did HEAVY optimization for the Intel graphics processors with the Source engine
 
Bob
> on i5-4590 and hd 7970 I have around 70% load

Source games especially cs:go are very CPU dependant games
That's 70% GPU load btw
 
70% GPU load on a 7970?
I guess high detail though
the 7970 in my box never had any particular trouble with Source engine games when I played them
in fact it did quite well, even with Direct3d
 
Bob
Someone with an R9-270X and an i7-960 was getting 70-90 FPS
 
do you have a PSu to support a hot wattsucking video card? otherwise the other $100 could replace the PSU also (300$ usd for a completly usable video card)
 
Bob
5:38 PM
Though, some people are suggesting that's surprisingly low for those specs.
@Psycogeek There won't be a powerful GPU here.
There's no need for one (his primary games are LoL, CS:GO and Minecraft, none of which care much about the GPU).
 
that one looks pretty sweet, and you can not replace your keyboard and mouse to account for the brazil tax
you can knock off the case, too -- I highly, highly doubt you'll need a new case
knock out the memory, too -- you already have some!
 
Well if one had a video card they did not have to set on low always, they might advance to more render work games.
 
That's nice, @allqui
@allquixotic*
And should I change the power supply too?
 
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=174&cmp[]=2267
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=96&cmp[]=2702
@Kerooker to upgrade from a 6670 to a decent modern GPU, I would. for sure.
so you're keeping your RAM, case, hard drive(s), keyboard, mouse, and monitor
everything else is all new
and you can do it under $400 USD at US retailers, not sure about Brazil
that Pentium Haswell doubles your single-threaded perf, and gives a nice boost even overall
 
So, I should go for a new Mobo, CPU and GPU, right
?
The ones on that reddit thread should be better than mines, right?
Oh, and a new PS too, if i'm not mistaken?
 
5:42 PM
the links I just posted above show exactly how much better they are
 
But do I need to change the PS for the others to work?
 
yes, but the one they suggest in the article should be enough
Here's a shopping list:
Intel Pentium G3258
ASRock H81M-DGS
Sapphire Radeon R9 270X (I think you can afford the "X", not the regular 270!)
EVGA 430W power supply
going to US amazon to find current prices
 
Alrighty, thanks a lot!
 
Bob
I would seriously consider going up a bit on the CPU and down a bit on the GPU.
 
5:47 PM
your total, if you lived in the U.S. and bought from Amazon, would be $334.42
 
Bob
Depends if you plan to play some big AAA titles, though.
 
with a Brazil tax of 20%, it's still only $401 USD
so this is right within your budget
 
Thanks very much for that guys! Really helped me out :D
 
@Bob you don't think doubling his current single-thread perf will be enough headroom for CS:GO on lowest detail?
considering that most things that are actually intensive are single-threaded, and the use of the second+ core is pretty light overall
also, that G3258 has an unlocked multiplier
Hoffa was overclocking it like mad
even with the stock cooler you could probably get 5-10% extra
 
Bob
@allquixotic For CS:GO, maybe. For Minecraft, probably not.
 
5:51 PM
@Bob depends on how much shit he and his friends decide to spam in Minecraft
if they keep it reasonable, sure
 
Bob
True.
 
but if not, even an i7-4790K will struggle
even a 16-core 5.5 GHz IBM zArchitecture mainframe processor would eventually cave under unbounded workload conditions
it just means he can't do this in Minecraft and expect playable FPS:
 
Well, we like to play machinery with over 130 mods, but that's insane..
 
6:24 PM
@Bob imagine how many seconds per frame you'd get with Minecraft doing video decoding and playback in redstone @_@
 
Bob
@allquixotic Heck, try that with uncompressed video... which brings us to data storage in MC :P
I wonder what the ratio is (ingame bits to ondisk bits)
 
6:38 PM
Running slax on an livecd - trying to access a drive that's attached to the desktop via SATA. Won't recognize it, and I know it is a good drive.
Do I need to mount it?
 
@studiohack I doubt it would mount automatically, so yeah
look at parted to make sure it's there
 
@allquixotic How do I do that?
is that a terminal cmd?
I typed parted in the terminal but I didn't get a list of devices. help isn't very clear.
fdisk -l just shows the external, usb drive. not the SATA mounted one. :/
 
Interesting, more and more torrents come on x265 now
 
@studiohack you just need to understand what drives the OS can see
I'm not going to play a guessing game as to what the drives may be called, but try parted /dev/sda, parted /dev/sdb, etc. until you find it, and then run print in the parted command line
 
@allquixotic oh? How so? I would think it would have more ease finding the "built in drives" as opposed to the external USB ones.
okay, I'll try that
 
6:54 PM
@studiohack it's not about ease; it's about knowing what nomenclature your OS uses for creating the disk block nodes, which depends a lot on your kernel version, settings, etc. -- but as a blind shot in the dark, you can check the subdirectories of /dev/disk to possibly find it if it's not /dev/sdb or something
in short, fdisk and parted will look for the "first" drive in your system (set more or less arbitrarily by the BIOS or UEFI firmware) and default to that if you don't run them with any other parameters
so you should be looking for commands or file names under /dev that suggest that something else besides just the "first" disk is there
back in the old days (and slax COULD apply here, since slax is ancient by design) they addressed IDE disks as /dev/hd followed by a letter: a, b, c, etc.
recent kernels address both IDE and SATA disks as /dev/sd followed by a letter
but there are equivalent links to those drives under /dev/disk (again, assuming a kernel from the last 5 years or so) that address them by different methods, like UUID, volume label, etc.
if /dev/disk doesn't exist then you have a truly antiquated kernel, or one that's been configured not to do that
 
sda I've seen a bit of
 
(it should be a directory)
 
trying something else first, then I'll come back to this. I wish I knew more Unix stuff offhand
 
you can try ls -la /dev/disk/ for starters
/dev/sda is probably the USB device you used to boot the live system, from the sound of it
 
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