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Unihedro

After using chess.com for a while, I think I still prefer Lichess. Its interface is cleaner, it has configurable colors, and the board on live chess is centered, not aligned to the left.

Undo

Games: Undo vs. Doorknob | Undo vs. GlenH7 | ...

^ We can just actively maintain that.

oh wait

mortals can't edit messages even if they're a room owner, right?

Doorknob

@Unihedro But this would mean extra work for me to scrape data from two sites :P

Unihedro

2:36 PM

@Doorknob Is the script ran automatically?

Doorknob

Umm, no, but it wouldn't be too hard to make it run automatically

Unihedro

[Event "Casual game"]
[Site "http://lichess.org/NDvAkrMS"]
[Date "2015.02.22"]
[White "ProgramFOX"]
[Black "Unihedron"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1500"]
[BlackElo "1500"]
[PlyCount "83"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "-"]
[ECO "C41"]
[Opening "Philidor Defense, General"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 { Philidor Defense, General } 3. d3 Nc6 4. Bg5 f6 5. Be3 Nh6 6. Be2 Ng4 7. h3 Nxe3 8. fxe3 g6 9. Nc3 Bh6 10. Qd2 f5 11. exf5 Bxf5 12. O-O-O Nb4 13. Kb1 c6 14. Qe1 Bxe3 15. g3 Qa5 16. Ng5 Nxc2 17. Kxc2 Bd4 18. g4 Bxc3 19. bxc3 Qa4+ 20. Kb1 Be6 21. Nxe6 Rf8 22. Nc7+ Kd7 23. Nx…

Undo

say, I wonder if there's open source tournament software out there

Unihedro

lichess is open source I think

github.com/ornicar/lila

Doorknob

@Unihedro So it's still PGN, but it would still mean that I would have to write extra code to scrape from lichess as well :P

@Undo probably

Unihedro

2:37 PM

And lichess has custom private tournaments! :D

Undo

@Unihedro As in to keep track of games, not to run the games

Ooooh

that might just make it worth it

Unihedro

Except, it breaks itself once in a while.

Undo

that is bad

hmm

I wonder if we could self-host lichess

nah, prolly too much work

Seth

Does lichess have apps?

Doorknob

It'd be easier just to continue scraping PGNs, because then we'd have fancy raw data to work with

Undo

2:40 PM

@Seth it has an API

Seth

That's a big feature chess.com has IMO.

Unihedro

@Seth android

Seth

Yay

Unihedro

And it's open source! Support the dawn of freedom!

Seth

Good enough for me.

Undo

2:41 PM

iOS app

Doorknob

@Undo shhh, you're the only one who uses iOS here (I think) :P

There's a chess.com Android app too, and it has fancy notification thingies

Seth

And it still supports correspondence.

Undo

It's @Mooseman! The world is saved!

Doorknob

yay!

Mooseman

:D

Undo

2:43 PM

wait a minute

Doorknob

Everyone except J. Musser is here now

Undo

we can't add mods as room owners?

Doorknob

yes we can

he's already an owner though

Undo

Oh

I'm an idiot

Doorknob

no, I am!

Mooseman

2:44 PM

This room was placed in timeout for 1 second; the topic of this room is "Github repo: github.com/KeyboardFire/tavern-tl-chess | Regular players will be added as room owner" - conversation should be limited to that topic.

Unihedro

...

Undo

lol

Unihedro

Showing off your diamond :D

<- loyal participant; no diamonds

Seth

MOD ABUSE

Undo

@Doorknob You're the idiot, I'm an idiot.

Doorknob

2:45 PM

Ah, I see.

Undo

Oh, and I almost just misspelled 'idiot', so I get more idiot points.

Seth

lol, the day when people fight over who is more idiotic. That's just idiotic.. I think. :-P

Doorknob

:D

Seth

Well I need to get back to work now. Cya!

Mooseman

cya!

Undo

2:49 PM

cya!

cya!

cya!

cya!

@Doorknob How are you generating the names for those pgns?

Unihedro

@Undo Pretty sure it's their game IDs.

Doorknob

2:50 PM

@Undo They're the chess.com game IDs

Undo

oh right

okay

Doorknob

If we end up using lichess too I'll have to find a way to have some kind of consistent naming system that still keeps the games in order :P

Unihedro

Lichess short-uuids?

Undo

@Doorknob unix timestamps

Doorknob

@Undo chess.com only keeps the day of a game, not the exact time

Undo

2:52 PM

Whaaaaat?

Doorknob

:/

Undo

surely there's a termination date

@Doorknob github.com/KeyboardFire/tavern-tl-chess/pull/1

Doorknob

@Undo Was that manually added, or generated with the Ruby script?

Undo

@Doorknob generated

Doorknob

alright

Undo

2:55 PM

ya know, it wouldn't be hard to make a thing that runs that script about every hour and commits additions automagically

Doorknob

Yeah, I know, but at the moment it's easier to just run it manually every day or so :P

Undo

true

Doorknob

Don't forget the time you spend finding the chart to look up what you save. And the time spent reading this reminder about the time spent. And the time trying to figure out if either of those actually make sense. Remember, every second counts toward your life total, including these right now.

Unihedro

You want to host it to run next to Smokey?

Also:

'Automating' comes from the roots 'auto-' meaning 'self-', and 'mating', meaning 'screwing'.

Doorknob

if I can shave off 5 seconds, then I'd save a grand total of 2 hours over the course of 5 years :P

Unihedro

2:57 PM

Are live chess games not recorded by chess.com?

Doorknob

They are, but I'm only scraping the non-live ones for now.

okay, I've finally decided on my move against @Undo

I'm not going to go for checkmate, but instead play this as safe as possible

Unihedro

Let's do a lichess tournament after our games. :p

So we get a rough estimate of each others' skillz.

We might not have too much time to play though.

Doorknob

I have to leave to get on a plane soon.

Unihedro

That's right.

Doorknob

Currently, it looks like the semi-rankings are (Undo <=> Doorknob) > J. Musser > Mooseman. Haven't played a game with you yet, so I don't know where you are. :P

Mooseman

3:00 PM

Is @Unihedro the only person still playing?

Unihedro

I am playing.

Mooseman

I know...

@Doorknob I haven't played for SOOOO long before yesterday :p

Doorknob

:P This is really fun though

Mooseman

Maybe, but I've only won one game so far out of several.

Unihedro

You beat me once earlier. xD

That one was a really good game too.

Mooseman

3:05 PM

Yes it was xD

Doorknob

Alright, I have to go to get on a plane. See all of you later!

Mooseman

O.o Where to?

cya!

Unihedro

See ya around!

Mooseman

3:29 PM

@Unihedro check

Unihedro

The next step is a checkmate isn't it. xD

Could it have been?

ok?

3:49 PM

That was a weird game. xD

Mooseman

@Unihedro Yes it was! I gotta go in a few tho. So until next time...

Unihedro

Seeya!

Mooseman

Let's finish this one out

Unihedro

Eh, checkmated? xD

ProgramFOX

Hi, chess players!

Unihedro

3:52 PM

Hiya Fox! :D

Mooseman

Hiya Fox! :D

ProgramFOX

How to play?

Mooseman

This you? chess.com/members/view/ProgramFOX

ProgramFOX

yup

Unihedro

<- prefers lichess

ProgramFOX

3:54 PM

^

Unihedro

Oh, it hasn't been checkmated. I assumed it was.

derp

Mooseman

@Uni Are we gonna finish this game up? chess.com/echess/game?id=107648874

oh

Unihedro

So sorry >_>

ProgramFOX

going to log in to chess.com, then accepting the friend request ;)

arggghhhh wrong password

Unihedro

:S

Mooseman

3:58 PM

@J.Musser PIIIIIINNGGGGGGG

Unihedro

ZOMG teh superping

ProgramFOX

goes to get cube profile pic on Chess.com

Mooseman

@J.Musser PIIIIIINNGGGGGGG

J. Musser

\o

Mooseman

o/

Unihedro

4:04 PM

@Mooseman Next game when you return I will own you so hard. I promise. :p

I hope you're aware, but this whole time you've forked my king in a square with one step next to checkmate.

Mooseman

@Unihedro I'll be ready. +/

@Unihedro I know. I just want to see what happens on chess.com when a pawn gets across.

ProgramFOX

How can I get my Chess.com ID?

Unihedro

@ProgramFOX 19339420

ProgramFOX

Okay, thanks :P

J. Musser

@Mooseman There are settings. Since I usually do tight timed games, I set it to automatically queen, but you can set it to other pieces, or have it bring up a dialog and let you choose.

Mooseman

4:09 PM

@J.Musser oh cool

@Unihedro Oh come on! Let me get it across :o

ProgramFOX

@Unihedro I cannot seem to find any ID anywhere... Tell me your secret! :P

Unihedro

It will be mine! Muahahahaha!

Fine.

@ProgramFOX I went to your profile and hovered on the "Send a Message" button. Its url is:

http://www.chess.com/home/send_message?id=19339420

ProgramFOX

OIC

Mooseman

This is getting very strange: chess.com/echess/game?id=107654256

J. Musser

@Mooseman Is it?

Mooseman

4:14 PM

@J.Musser We're both piling up all our pieces around ur bishop :p

ProgramFOX

Anyone who wants to play some chess with me?

J. Musser

@ProgramFOX \o

ProgramFOX

:D

Mooseman

@J.Musser Time for a massacre...

Unihedro

Meh, I resigned.

ProgramFOX

4:17 PM

Umm... this UI is driving me crazy... how do I accept @J.Musser's challenge?

oh, found it

accepted

Unihedro

@ProgramFOX ikr :p

J. Musser

@Mooseman pay attention ;P

Mooseman

@J.Musser mm hmm

afk all. 'till later

ProgramFOX

cya

J. Musser

This is a good start, @ProgramFOX.

ProgramFOX

4:25 PM

thanks!

Trying to look for ways to defeat your queen :P

Doorknob

Plane is taking a long time to arrive... meanwhile, I moved in my game with @Undo. Pretty sure I'll win :D

Is @ProgramFOX joining us as well? :D

Unihedro

Yeah!

ProgramFOX

Yep! :D

Feeds

Unihedro has added ProgramFOX to the list of this room's owners.

ProgramFOX

cool, thanks!

Doorknob

4:32 PM

@Mooseman Back home to Houston. I've been in Utah for the last week to ski for spring break

J. Musser

@ProgramFOX uh, this queen has no feet

ProgramFOX

hehe

Doorknob

@ProgramFOX I'll add you to members.txt on the GitHub repo when I get home and an able to access an actual computer. (Or someone could pull request and make it easy for me :P)

ProgramFOX

@Doorknob I already made a PR :P

Doorknob

Oh, okay. I'll merge it

Unihedro

4:34 PM

Night!

Night!

Night!

Night!

Night!

in The 65th Square, 7 secs ago, by ProgramFOX

^ If anyone would like to play some chess with other SE users, check out that room ;)

made some promotion for our room in The 65th Square

Seth

4:44 PM

I'm surprised at your move @Doorknob

Mooseman

This game is getting interesting: live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094739832 (Against random opponent)

Seth

wat was that move @Mooseman o_O

(his last)

Mooseman

@Seth the king? idk

Seth

that was a weird exchange.

oh good, you took that pawn @Mooseman.

I was afraid you'd miss it!

Mooseman

:)

ProgramFOX

4:50 PM

Wait... what happened with my queen in my game with @Mooseman? Argh, looks like he captured it without I noticed -_-

Mooseman

@ProgramFOX lol

Seth

@J.Musser You realize trying to help @Mooseman is kind of rude to the other player right?

Mooseman

???

Seth

Oh, maybe you can't see that chat @Mooseman.

So @J.Musser, I can play you in a correspondence game, but I can't do live. I'm going to be super busy through Tuesday but I think I can make 4/5 moves a day :)

Mooseman

2 kings, 1 rook :o live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094739832

Seth

4:56 PM

lol he had the audacity to offer a draw? LOL

Mooseman

ikr

J. Musser

@Seth Mooseman has a higher rating than me, so not really :P

@Seth sure!

Doorknob

2 hours ago, by Doorknob

I'm not going to go for checkmate, but instead play this as safe as possible

Mooseman

@Seth finally done

Seth

@Mooseman I saw that coming :/

J. Musser

5:01 PM

It was a draw after all

Mooseman

afk

Seth

@Doorknob I'm not convinced on how safe that is :/

but we'll see!

ProgramFOX

@J.Musser Checkmate! >:P

J. Musser

haha!

good game.

lol why I didn't see your bishop xD

ProgramFOX

lol

J. Musser

5:17 PM

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094785408

Undo

@Doorknob You're going to have issues with that pawn promotion

Doorknob

@Undo Oh, I have a plan for that >:)

Undo

oh crap

J. Musser

me postes links to me 5 min games

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094794546

Undo

5:34 PM

uh oh

J. Musser

what?

Undo

That was in response to you losing that rook

ProgramFOX

@J.Musser chess.com/echess/game?id=107606678

Undo

Although I guess you didn't actually lose it :P

ProgramFOX

... oh, I thought it was in response to your game with Doorknob.

Undo

5:35 PM

no, although that's not going well either

J. Musser

@Undo oh me? yeah that was clumsy

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094803721

Doorknob

Oh wow I didn't realize that your knight could then take my queen. I should have used the bishop. I'm an idiot

I'll still probably be able to win :P

Undo

probably :P

Mooseman

@J.Musser I call next live game

ProgramFOX

afk

Seth

5:42 PM

lol @Undo @Doorknob, I'm not sure there's much hope for either of you now :P

Undo

@Seth I offered him a draw, I think he declined :P

Doorknob

Umm I don't think I can accept a draw from mobile

I'll accept your other challenge when I get home to an actual computer

J. Musser

@Mooseman what?

Mooseman

@J.Musser Live game?

Seth

chess.com is killing my connection.

J. Musser

5:44 PM

@Mooseman We can't play live with each other...

Mooseman

@J.Musser why?

J. Musser

well idk how...

I'm just playing random folks.

Seth

chess.com is killing my connection and crashing firefox.. I support moving to lichess :P

J. Musser

with the online chess, you can challenge, etc.

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094813540

Mooseman

ok

Seth

5:47 PM

wait

lichess doesn't do the three-fold draw? Blasphemy!

Undo

@Seth er what?

Mooseman

> J-Musser has declined your challenge

Seth

@Undo Repeating the same board position for the third time automatically ends the game in a draw.

Undo

oh

Doorknob

Wait, blegh, should have used the knight there

Oh well

@Seth chess.com doesn't either

Seth

5:49 PM

WAT

J. Musser

@Mooseman wat

I didn't see a challenge

Mooseman

@J.Musser idk that's what im seeing :p

J. Musser

haha

good game @Mooseman

Mooseman

@J.Musser gg :)

J. Musser

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094822371

whoops, lost after I got the positional advantage

I'm having a bad chess day

xD

Doorknob

6:02 PM

uh oh, Nc3 is going to be a problem

J. Musser

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094830417

Doorknob

ACK

this is not good

Undo

lol

I might have a chance yet

J. Musser

@Undo link to ur game? :)

Undo

@J.Musser chess.com/echess/game?id=107606678

J. Musser

6:07 PM

kewl

haha, the guy I'm playing (live) just left.

waits for the time to run out

yey, internet pointz

Doorknob

okay I'm not completely doomed

I'll still be ahead by at least a pawn no matter what

J. Musser

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094836146

ProgramFOX

back

Doorknob

@Undo quick, I'm about to board my plane :P

J. Musser

I'm not doing very well at all today

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094848149

Doorknob

6:25 PM

@Undo is no longer online :(

The plane's about to take off. I await your move for when I land!

Undo

:D

oh

you is gone

J. Musser

aha won a game...

the last linked

ProgramFOX

Who's aha?

terrible joke

J. Musser

meh eh eh eh eh

(bored laugh ^)

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094859704

Undo

@bjb568 Join usssssssss

bjb568

6:39 PM

Hiya

@J.Musser all I see is login wall >:(

J. Musser

@bjb568 then log in...

lol

kittehz these days...

bjb568

K, fine

J. Musser

K, as in short for J. Musser?

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094872715

wow, checkmated in 20 seconds

and that counts the time I took copying the url and posting in here

mate in 4, from the beginning

I wonder how he even got a rating...

live.chess.com/live?v=2015022001#g=1094875626

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