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12:01 PM
Aah
 
@MattE.Эллен I've wrecked multiple biking helmets through crashes.
 
I've never seen anyone wearing a helmet except people on racing bikes
 
@KevinvanderVelden you're in the Netherlands :D people respect cyclists there ;)
@Arperum sounds nasty! I've looked over my helmet, and I can't see any cracks. I'm quite surprised.
 
The one case I still remember specifically that destroyed a helmet was that one time where I somehow ended up with my foot in my frontwheel and thus got launched headfirst over the handlebars and onto the street.
And then skidded onwards on my face until I ended in the side of the road.
 
ouch! geeez!
that sounds terrible
 
12:04 PM
most of the sliding was done on the helmet though, and I only had a small wound above my nose.
I also once did a crash that resulted in my handlebars having a 90% turn in them where no turn should be.
 
@MattE.Эллен if you landed on it you should still replace it regardless =p
 
@Arperum I've done this
 
Or that one time where I got hit by a car that drove ~5-10km/h (I was driving 25+)
 
Ouch
 
@KevinvanderVelden I wish I could remember. I remember the fish tailing and I remember standing up. I think I remember putting my front brake on. I assume I landed on my elbow then skidded along, but I have no idea.
 
12:08 PM
Hello, morning, we meet again.
 
Is morning your true nemesis?
 
inb4 @KevinvanderVelden/@Arperum telle me their local time
 
And then got launched into the air, wit my head centimeters left of a road sign, and flying over some small pillars that were placed to przevent cars from parking at tat place.
 
@OrigamiRobot naah
 
KevinVanDArperum
 
12:09 PM
@Arperum you're some kind of stunt rider!
 
@MattE.Эллен I have stupid amounts of luck.
Even better was that the frame of my bike was bent after that crash, and the only thing that had hit said frame was my leg...
So I hit a metal frame so hard it bended, but I didn't have anything from it.
 
I had a nasty crash once. The front wheel decided to leave its front mounting and roll on it's one, while I crashed face-first into the ground.
 
@Arperum :-o nice
 
@Arperum Are you Wolverine?
 
@5pike ow. I heard of a guy who broke his back from that
 
12:13 PM
I've also had some other case with some dude stopping right next to me.
 
@MattE.Эллен I was lucky (somehow). Only had a nasty nosebleed and some scratches.
 
I had one where I caught the handlebar on a branch. It flipped me clean over, directly down onto my back. Luckily I was wearing a backpack, which took the brunt of the force. Unluckily, it contained my laptop.
 
If I was a cat I'd have used proably all my lives already.
 
maybe you are multiple cats
in a human suit
 
@MattE.Эллен "Why are you wearing that man suit?"
 
12:15 PM
lol
 
@MattE.Эллен My singing skills support that theory.
 
GIS "Suit full of cats" was a mistake
 
It also found this:
 
@Wipqozn R.I.P mod abuse is best mod abuse. Thanks @LessPop_MoreFizz. Gave me a smile seeing that.
 
12:20 PM
"Y U DO DIS HUMAN?
 
a different type of catsuit
 
@Wipqozn My condolences.
 
ugh
good morning*
 
@5pike Thanks
 
@Wipqozn Sorry to hear that.
 
12:21 PM
I've lost many cats. It's never easy.
 
Last night wasn't as bad as I expected. I knew this was coming for about 3 months now, so I think it definitely helped prepare me for today.
 
We lost one last Christmas.
It was very elderly, but still very sad
However we now have a new cat, who totally rocks too.
 
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Q: How do monsters level in your farm?

Trollwut(This question adresses DWM2.) Hi folks. While carrying around up to three monsters and gaining their experience through fights, your monsters on the monster also level. Is it known how they level? As I never payed attention to exactly when the farm monster get experience, I can think of shared...

 
The solution to uncatting is recatting.
 
@fredley Yeah, I'm going to get a new cat too. NOt sure when though. Not right away.
@fredley I like this solution.
 
12:23 PM
@Wipqozn We ended up getting the new cat really quickly - an ad came up for one we couldn't refuse. The decision was made for us, which was nice.
 
@MattE.Эллен Thanks
 
When our old cat died, we got a new one from my grandmother.
 
@5pike That is a cute cat
 
Yeah. Her name is Samy. She's bigger now, the photo is from last august, I think.
 
12:50 PM
My previous cat dissapeared last year on the first of july :(
 
user15026
@Wipqozn gives you more hugs
 
@AshleyNunn hey Ashley how are ya?
 
Oh no! A coworker has succumbed to evil! He's drinking DECAF!
 
@MBraedley Send him to coffee.SE, stat!
 
user15026
I have cheerios and Apple juice and got some sleep so right now I am pretty happy
 
12:58 PM
@No.7892142 I should flag that, because it's obviously offensive
 
user15026
@mbraedley shun the nonbeliever
 
@AshleyNunn glad to hear it
 
@MBraedley Any programmer who needs coffeee isn't a real programmer, obviously. :^)
(I can't speak for other professions.)
 
o/
 
ABUUUSE
 
12:59 PM
@No.7892142 Good thing I'm an engineer first and foremost.
 
user15026
Today nothing happens but waiting so I m8ght annoy you lot as long as mobile chat doesn't make me hate things.
 
@MBraedley Fair enough.
 
@AshleyNunn Oh that was you?
 
@MBraedley I'm an addict, first and foremost
 
@fredley I was speaking professionally
 
1:02 PM
@MBraedley So was I
 
1:27 PM
Why are esoteric programming languages so fun
 
@No.7892142 Masochism on the part of the programmer
 
@fredley ...huh
I can see that being the case with people who get into Malbolge, but otherwise...
 
1:45 PM
@TheAce Fer de Lance is awesome
 
2:00 PM
> You earn 21.6519 quadragintillion meat per second.
Why am I still playing this?
 
@AshleyNunn Are you using @fredley's app?
 
> You earn 14.0729 octoquadragintillion meat per second.
 
I'm getting close to my 2nd ascension. It will be tomorrow if it doesn't snow.
If it snows I won't be able to update until Friday.
 
I just Ascended for the 3rd time.
Diminishing returns on mutagen are huge
 
2:14 PM
@Yuuki Morning
 
@OrigamiRobot Well I have a million times more mutagen on this next ascend than I did on the last one.
I'd expect something like each 3 orders of magnitude doubles the effectiveness of the powers.
 
user15026
@saintwacko no, I had too much trouble trying to get it to work, so plain old mobile chat for me.
 
Ugh... is this still not over?
 
It's over
 
2:19 PM
... How is this danged one-boxing thing supposed to work?
Whatever, I don't care enough to bother.
 
That tweet is multiple days old
@Yuuki It doesn't
 
Oh yeah @Uni
 
The Bridge just hasn't driven the whole dress thing deeply into the ground enough yet
 
yesterday, by Yuuki
People joking about the Bridge running jokes into the ground is a joke that's been run into the ground.
yawn
 
@Yuuki not https, other than that no clue
 
2:23 PM
In other news, there's an Independence Day 2 coming.
 
Good morning, Bridge
4
 
In other news, it's Wednesday.
 
@Frank Morning!
 
I got 2 hours of sleep!
And I'm feeling great!
(facedesk)
 
I got 6 hours of sleep!
 
2:29 PM
@Yuuki puts a pillow on the desk
 
@Yuuki That's ridiculous.
 
Maybe tonight I'll have a free night.
After my family leaves after a family event.
 
@Powerlord I got my normal 5 hours of sleep.
 
@Arperum I can't just do 5 hours every night, I'd get terrible headaches.
By the way, how many people skipped my link earlier because they assumed it was a Rebecca Black parody?
 
That's a @Wipqozn level pun right there.
 
2:31 PM
It is quite terrible yes
 
@Frank That's pretty rad.
 
@StrixVaria 1t IN WARP IS 2200%
 
@Frank I have a coworker who keeps making horrible puns. I always have to resist saying "that's a @Wipqozn -level pun" because I don't want to have to explain what I mean by that.
 
@Arperum Just go with, "That was bad and you should feel bad"
 
@Arperum Makes sense. Your coworkers would always be bothering you to get my autograph or something.
 
2:35 PM
@Wipqozn Keep on dreaming.
 
@Arperum I will.
For now, though, I think I'll go kill monsters.
 
@Wipqozn I can't, because work.
I made java on a winXP VM run out of memory today during a test.
 
@Frank What are you talking about? You aren't getting spring for at least another month!
 
@OrigamiRobot So it's 6 orders of magnitude to double effectiveness :(
 
Having a whole DB in the blasted thing is not good for RAM usage.
 
2:37 PM
@MBraedley I know!
 
Isn't Spring the one that starts in mid-May or so? :P
 
Sometimes, yes.
I'm hoping this year isn't one of those years.
 
@Powerlord spring is march/april.
 
@Rapitor (I was joking)
 
Since the review queue got a couple Looks OK for it.
 
2:47 PM
AFAIK we don't delete link-only answers. We downvote them mercilessly, but they are still "answers".
 
@StrixVaria There's a recommend deletion option specifically for that.
 
@Frank Oh is there?
I don't look at the non-mod queue ever anymore.
 
@StrixVaria That's the very first comment on that answer.
It's an automated comment from the LQ queue.
 
Yes, but that comment doesn't mention deletion.
 
In order to get to that comment, you have to hit the Delete/Recommend Deletion button.
 
2:49 PM
Hm...
I'm apparently not the only mod that thinks this; the flags were declined by someone else.
But the deletion reason thingy is from SE itself.
 
It's a rather inconsistent thing, yeah.
 
cc @Fluttershy @FAE
 
So I guess we have to have a discussion.
 
It's really a crap shoot, depending on which mod handles the flag.
 
2:54 PM
I would be for deleting link only answers because:
> Link-only answers can become invalid if the linked page changes.
 
I get the problems with them. It's weird to delete a valid (but bad) answer, though, because it might become invalid.
 
@5pike Most of it for me is that we have a merciless quality standard, and the viewpoint that links, by themselves, aren't answers. So remove the link, and we're left without an actual answer.
And then we run into the people part of the equation, and the inconsistencies of the SE platform.
 
@5pike Answers about games in active development can become invalid if the game changes.
It's not quite the same, but the idea that an answer could become wrong (but it isn't now) isn't really a good reason to delete it.
 
Yeah, but if link-rot happens, there is no answer at all.
 
Is no answer better or worse than a wrong answer?
 
2:57 PM
Yes, it is (IMO)
 
@5pike I didn't ask a yes or no question...I don't know which side you mean :P
 
@StrixVaria I feel it has less to do with answers might becoming invalid, and more about an answer not actually answering the question without the link.
 
@Frank Then why does the recommend deletion text say the reason is that it could become invalid?
 
My understanding is that links are great for supplemental information, but an answer that is primarily a link elsewhere doesn't count as an answer.
 
I don't disagree with that.
I'm just trying to mull over the actual state of things out loud.
 
2:59 PM
@StrixVaria Probably a friendly attempt to get the contributor to try to summarize the information.
 
Yes, but the problem is if that link dies, and there's nothing else in the answer, then the answer now has zero content
 
@StrixVaria No answer is better than a wrong answer
IMO
 
2 mins ago, by StrixVaria
Is no answer better or worse than a wrong answer?
 
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Q: Why won't the truffle NPC move in to my house In the above ground mushroom biome during hardmode

user104700I unlocked hardmode by beating the wall of flesh. I have an above ground mushroom biome. I see the giant mushrooms in the background and I see mushroom biome monsters. I keep getting the notification that the truffle wants to move in and he won't. I have a house big enough I have torches, chairs,...

 
@5pike So link rot making an answer into nothing isn't as bad as a game patch making a bunch of answers wrong, yet we deal with game patches all the time.
 
2:59 PM
But the wrong answer is still right for some (possibly inaccessible) version of the game.
And an answer with link-rot is just worthless.
 
Anyway, I'm not comfortable mod-deleting link-only answers necessarily, but if you guys manage to delete it I'm not going to mod-undelete it either.
 
I mean, no answer is worthless
 
Relevant:
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Q: The 'don't just link to something' policy is inane

DecencyFrom: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/a/79994/11047 The link in all likelihood won't die any more than this site will die, and even in the rare case that it does it can easily be edited and updated. Content on the internet doesn't disappear anymore, it's 2012 and archive.org is a thing. It's ...

 
Wrong answers as in was never correct are worthless
 
@Frank I knew this guy would come up.
 
3:01 PM
In regards to the possibility of an answer becoming invalid, you should look at what indication there could be to show the answer needs updating. If the game changes, lots of people know it. If a link dies, people don't know until they click on it.
 
@StrixVaria I think it does a pretty good job of explaining the link only policy.
 
@OrigamiRobot Ooh, good point. We can be proactive about game patches.
 
> The problem with answers that consist solely of a link is that we can't do anything via editing if and when the link dies: there's no context behind the link, nothing to search by, and nothing to replace it with.
 
The problem with link-only answers, IMO, is that they are nigh unmaintainable should they ever need maintenance.
 
3:07 PM
@Unionhawk You're like half a day late
 
@Lazers We get an AWFUL lot of these.
 
@Powerlord Maybe you're just like half a day early
 
Can someone who plays Terraria confirm that this answer is still valid?
 
@Yuuki Note to self: lock the car around big cats
 
3:09 PM
@Yuuki girl lion
pretty sure that's a lion
 
@fredley A female lion
 
@fredley girl lion lioness.
 
Good morning, Bridge.
 
@Frank Haven't played te console version, nor semi-recently the pc version. So I can't really help. But it looks right to me (based on old memories).
 
@Arperum For me, too. I haven't played it in years, though.
 
3:14 PM
@fredley Also, the original quote was referring to a velociraptor, so...
 
@Frank Sort of the same, I've launched it a couple times over the years, but that's about it.
 
YOU PLAYED TERRARIA EVER? HRM.
WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS YOUR KIND OF GAME
 
@OrigamiRobot It's not, really. But I like the art style.
 
Why would you play Terriblia?
(Sorry, couldn't think of anything better)
 
@Powerlord So I can answer questions for fake Internet points!
 
3:17 PM
sigh
I want to update code to a new standard, but its the same code that I haven't had a chance to test yet.
Since this is game code I want to test and I'm at work, I can't actually test it here.
 
@Frank I think so. It hasn't updated significantly. We are getting multiple duplicates of it lately.
 
@Unionhawk Yeah, so I just want to make sure we're still helping the askers. It makes for a decent canonical post about that question.
Serenity's getting a nerf, due to CDR allowing an almost permanent immunity.
 
@OrigamiRobot Yay Terraria!
Such a fun game
 
3:32 PM
 
@Unionhawk AWW HE WANTS TO PLAY
 
That or he trapped it on purpose
Either way is hilarious
 
REMINDS ME OF THAT ARTICLE TALKING ABOUT SOLVING PET VS ROOMBA PROBLEMS BY SCOLDING THE ROOMBA
 
I remember that
 
ROOMBA IS PEOPLE TOO
 
3:35 PM
That's still hilarious
^also hilarious
 
Reminds me, I need to box up and trash my Roomba Discovery model.
 
3:53 PM
drama sense tingling!
 
I mean, I can clear stars on good morning if you want, but no, not really
 
@Sterno Eh?
 
Link only answer s
 
Meh. I think that has run it's course.
 
Interestingly, that flag was marked as helpful for me, but not actioned
 
3:55 PM
@Unionhawk Mine got disputed.
 
I think that means it was a "Looks OK"?
 
Probably as a couple reviewers hit Looks OK, yeah.
 
I think "Disputed" means "a reviewer looked at this post and hit Looks OK" and "Declined" means "A mod looked at this flag and said no"
 
Sounds right.
 
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Q: What is a disputed flag?

BrandonIn my flagging summary under the statistics, there is 1 flag listed as "disputed". This is the first time I've ever seen a disputed flag in my summary, so I'm just curious, what is a disputed flag? How would you even dispute a flag? Is this the same as voting a flag as invalid? Return to FAQ in...

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Q: What is the difference between disputed and declined flags?

saluceI'm looking at my flag count, and I see a couple 'declined' flags and a few 'disputed' flags, and I'm wondering: what is the difference between the two? I've had both disputed and declined flags where the action I expected from the flag was taken, so I can't quite nail down what they mean (other...

Basically that
 
3:57 PM
> When a post, flagged as NAA or VLQ, enters on the Low Quality Review Queue while being upvoted or accepted, if all reviewers selected "recommend deletion" it will result in a disputed flag.
That sounds...off.
 
I think that essentially is to say that an upvote is functionally equivalent to a "Looks OK" review
 
The second answer actually clarifies it a bit, I think; if you get both "recommend deletion" AND "looks OK", then it gets disputed.
 
I dunno
Flags are mysterious
 

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