The Junk Drawer

@ZachSaucier @Shokhet If the sink/shower drain questions are distinct enough to warrant separate questions we may need to address this one: lifehacks.stackexchange.com/q/2095/32

Zach Saucier

I disagree

same crap goes in a sink and shower drain

not the case for kitchen sink and shower

apaul34208

12:58 AM

That one didn't specify which sink it was... Not a great question any way, so probably not worth messing with now.

darthnesscoveredthesky

1:34 AM

Great site

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@ZachSaucier Thanks it works :)

Zach Saucier

np

Zach Saucier

2:25 AM

I don't think there's much of a hack in the question you just asked about ingredients sticking to the side of measuring cups

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier Oh, well it helped me. Because food was always sticking.

Zach Saucier

I'm glad, I just don't know how much of a lifehack it is

we can't be a catch all

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier Why?

@ZachSaucier Agreed. Maybe someone should get on Meta about it, because I am confused :)

Zach Saucier

let me think a bit

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier Ok, think away :) Should I take the post down? It already got a DV anyway and IDK why :)

Zach Saucier

2:28 AM

this food question of yours lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2207/… is much more hacky than your most recent one

@darthnesscoveredthesky feel free to leave it at least until we're through discussing it

I think this food question is very good, it's the only food question I upvoted I think lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2205/…

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier Maybe because it had more solutions and it didn't seem like a simple Question?

Zach Saucier

@darthnesscoveredthesky we can't base OT on the answers though

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier I mean question, but I understand!

Zach Saucier

found a couple other food questions I upvoted...

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier Yay for you :) But I don't see why that's so cool :(

Zach Saucier

2:33 AM

was just commenting...

darthnesscoveredthesky

See Robert's answer on this " Cooking food is not a lifehack — not unless there's something so novel or so unique about the circumstances, that the solution isn't really well-known or already commonly taught in that subject space."

Maybe my question wasn't unique enough.

Zach Saucier

that's not a good OT reason though

maybe it's because your most recent question deals only with food?

perhaps because it deals specifically with food would be better

meaning you can't replace "ingredients" with something non-food and the answers be valid

I'm not even sure if that's a valid OT reason, haha

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier But isn't that the case for a lot of stain questions?

Zach Saucier

@MattS. @Shokhet @Sterno @J.Musser Would love to hear your input on the situation (read above some and perhaps below)

@darthnesscoveredthesky such as? just a couple so I can look at them

I'm just thinking in chat here a bit

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier So maybe I should change it a bit, to include other sticky stuff? But why would you be measuring glue or concrete?

@ZachSaucier Sure! :)

Zach Saucier

2:40 AM

@darthnesscoveredthesky that's the thing - you wouldn't. And I'm not suggesting the question needs to be more general, I'm just trying to think of why your question seems off topic whereas others aren't

going afk for a bit

darthnesscoveredthesky

@ZachSaucier Disgusting and Blood. Possibly Carpet Urine and Sink Stains.

@ZachSaucier BYE!

Sabre Tooth

now thats a long answer earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/2501/…

darthnesscoveredthesky

@SabreTooth Not really. The pictures and the references tide it over. No offence :)

Sabre Tooth

I would never write an answer that was not referenced (and I hate wikipedia)... also, I was speaking figuratively - it took me 3 hours to write

darthnesscoveredthesky

@SabreTooth Oh dear, 3 hours is so long :? And why do you hate Wikipedia, it is valid sometimes.

Sabre Tooth

2:50 AM

I have found more errors in wikipedia than I find acceptable... 3 hours is nothing, I spent 6 hours on one answer

darthnesscoveredthesky

@SabreTooth Oh dear, you really put effort into it :) And what articles did you find errors in, I find Wikipedia good for finding sources sometimes in their references. I've only found a few errors and troller edits I have found plenty.

Sabre Tooth

fundamental errors

my average time per answer on ES is 2 hours

darthnesscoveredthesky

g2g

Shokhet

4:20 AM

@ZachSaucier If I followed the conversation properly, you're arguing that food questions should be off-topic?

It wasn't entirely clear to me what the topic of that discussion was

Zach Saucier

@darthnesscoveredthesky none of those deal with food :P

@Shokhet no, I'm trying to figure our why darth's most recent question seems more off topic than others

Shokhet

@ZachSaucier He (?) was responding to your request for examples of "stain" questions

@ZachSaucier D'you have a link for me, or do I have to go digging for one?

Zach Saucier

yes, but my original point was talking about food

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Q: How to keep ingredients of measuring cups from sticking to the sides?

I cook a lot and anyone with cooking experience knows that many foods sticks to the inside of the measuring cups or food pan, in general. These foods include honey, and other viscous fluids. I have tried: Pouring them fast Pouring them on only one side and then having less to clean. What othe...

Shokhet

@ZachSaucier Follow the arrows back on the comments, you'll figure out what he meant to say.

@ZachSaucier I'll take a look, thanks

Zach Saucier

@Shokhet I know what he meant to say (he made it clear), I'm saying that it's only the case for "ingredients", not in general

which I'm not sure if that's allowed or not, hah

Shokhet

4:24 AM

@ZachSaucier The second half of that statement made no sense to me; I'm missing context

Zach Saucier

2 hours ago, by Zach Saucier

meaning you can't replace "ingredients" with something non-food and the answers be valid

my argument was around that point

Shokhet

Again, being on-topic on another exchange does not mean that it's off-topic here

And why must a question always have answers that will solve a different problem than the one posted?

Zach Saucier

I realize that

that's why we were trying to think of why it's off topic for here :P

Shokhet

also, I'm not done reading @darthnesscoveredthesky's question yet, so hang on a minute

Zach Saucier

perhaps doing that and reading the transcript in here would have helped some of your confusion

Shokhet

4:28 AM

I don't see the problem with that question. He has a real-world (=not psychological) problem, and a few things he tried that simply don't work.....it might be written/structured a little better, but that's about it

although I do agree that

I don't think Zach meant to say that it's off-topic here, but rather that you might find better answers there. They're the food professionals, after all. — Shokhet 1 min ago

@ZachSaucier What do you think of the question now that it's been edited?

Zach Saucier

it's the same question

also you missed a letter when bolding

it only deals with cooking, it's not much of a lifehack

Shokhet

@ZachSaucier how'd that happen?

@ZachSaucier why does "cooking" = "not a lifehack"? ....it's a physical problem, and conventional solutions don't work.

Zach Saucier

I'm not saying it's off topic per se

I kind of am, lol

it for sure should be on Cooking though

Shokhet

sorry; was editing the answer, once I was in there ;-)

11 mins ago, by Shokhet

Again, being on-topic on another exchange does not mean that it's off-topic here

Zach Saucier

people misuse punctuation so much

Shokhet

4:36 AM

....you need a better argument than that

Zach Saucier

2 hours ago, by darthnesscoveredthesky

See Robert's answer on this " Cooking food is not a lifehack — not unless there's something so novel or so unique about the circumstances, that the solution isn't really well-known or already commonly taught in that subject space."

@Shokhet that's what I'm trying to do...

and by that statement I'm not saying it's off topic

I'm saying it should be on there

Shokhet

one minute......

wow, this comment got a score of 8! .....is this what you meant?

I don't know what kind of answer you'll get here, but you might have a better time asking this question over at gardening.stackexchange.com. Being on-topic on another site does not mean that it's off-topic here, but I think you stand a chance of getting a better answer there. — Shokhet Dec 11 at 15:18

Zach Saucier

pretty much

but then Lifehacks becomes a catch all if questions are phrased properly

Shokhet

Same as Skeptics, then

Zach Saucier

that's why we included the "what have you tried" requirement originally

@Shokhet not exactly

Shokhet

4:42 AM

@ZachSaucier Explain.

Zach Saucier

skeptics has strict rules.

Shokhet

So do we, just different rules

Zach Saucier

lol, no we don't

Shokhet

(which are still evolving as we speak)

Zach Saucier

not right now anyway

Sabre Tooth

4:43 AM

i had a similar comment on my sunspotter question

Shokhet

14 secs ago, by Shokhet

(which are still evolving as we speak)

Zach Saucier

why did you repost that, lol

skeptics.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic we don't have something like this

because we can't (I don't believe)

we tried doing something like it with the "what have you tried" approach which has proven to have some flaws

Shokhet

@ZachSaucier I actually think we need something more like this, first

Zach Saucier

it's the same thing pretty much

just more words to explain

Sabre Tooth

but I posted it here due to the fact that Physics.SE would downvote/ignore it

Shokhet

4:46 AM

I'd love to talk about this, @Zach, but I don't have the time right now. Can I expect you to be in this room tomorrow?

Zach Saucier

'course, at least some of the time

Shokhet

All right.

Zach Saucier

@SabreTooth I'm glad you did. I want to see more questions like it and a bigger community for things like it

Shokhet

.....the short of it is that i believe we can, but that would take more time than I have right now.

Good night, everyone!

Sabre Tooth

@ZachSaucier i discussed it in the Physics.SE room, there is another experimental physicist there - may be wooing him over

Joachin Joseph

6:03 AM

Guys, 6.3 questions per day. What could be the reason for the slowdown of new questions. How can we improve. ?

Sabre Tooth

@JoachinJoseph could be worse... Beer.SE is at 0.2 questions a day... it is the Christmas-New Years period - activity is down everywhere

Joachin Joseph

Thanks

Sabre Tooth

it will be fine, also - it is pretty common for that statistic to go down after a public release

Joachin Joseph

Oh okie.. Just understanding SE..

Sabre Tooth

same here - it is a strange, but great beast that is SE

by the way @JoachinJoseph your answer here lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2352/… is brilliant!

Joachin Joseph

6:17 AM

Thanks @SabreTooth. I wanted to share this simple hack to everyone, so I posted this question :P. Coz many times I suffered. Also believing we will get more good answers only if we start a thread on the topic

Sabre Tooth

9:27 AM

@ZachSaucier I have made the scientific-tool tag, and wrote a little wiki for it - my question is the first with it, but I envisage it won't be the last

Mooseman

10:43 AM

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, Dec 17 at 12:33, by Mooseman is eating pizza

This guy is the Hero of Stack Overflow.

J. Musser

12:06 PM

@Mooseman but why

my word, that message got 30 stars

Mooseman

12:37 PM

The link goes to http://stackoverflow.com/users/current

Zach Saucier

3:27 PM

such a bad question lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2011/…

Shokhet

4:55 PM

Where's the meta post about backing up your claim in answers? ....I'd like to link to it in a comment in a VLQ review, but I can't find it

never mind, found it

MacGyver

5:28 PM

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Q: Why is a "psychological problem" off topic?

So I was pointed in the direction of this discussion on meta and I'm wondering why a 'psychological problem' is off topic? Why can't there be a life hack that can deal with such issues? In the particular example where an alarm was sub consciously turned off why is saying place the alarm out of ...

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Shokhet

5:54 PM

@ZachSaucier See edited question. I've voted to reopen.

Zach Saucier

@Shokhet still not going to as it doesn't cover how they are entering

ah, it's in the comments

Shokhet

@ZachSaucier Okay. I won't tell you how to vote.

J. Musser

back I am

Oh look, 'Gyver's found a dupe for us

Shokhet

@MacGyver This is why I think it's a good idea to link to relevant meta posts when commenting ( cc @J.Musser )

.....then we won't get Meta duplicates

J. Musser

@Shokhet Actually, read it.

he was directed to meta in a comment

Shokhet

5:58 PM

@J.Musser Wrong one, though.

I did say "relevant" posts, didn't I? :P

@ZachSaucier I didn't notice that point; I took the other comments.

J. Musser

@Shokhet But none of his questions are about psychological things. He just read the scope, and wondered why they were discouraged.

Zach Saucier

@Shokhet I edited it in already

Shokhet

.....and I got the Breaking Bad hat for that question :) ....how about you, @ZachSaucier?

@ZachSaucier I saw that; that's why I commented ;-)

Zach Saucier

haven't gotten anything yet

reopen-pls lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2330/…

Shokhet

@J.Musser Half of the purpose of comments is to clarify what you're doing, to the OP; the other half of it (perhaps up to three quarters) is for those other users who are observing.

IMHO

J. Musser

6:02 PM

@Shokhet and?

Shokhet

@J.Musser ....what did you expect me to follow that with?

confused

J. Musser

not sure why that has anything to do with this particular case

Shokhet

Because if he would have seen the link to the psych-specific Meta post before he posted his Q, he wouldn't have posted the dupe

J. Musser

@Shokhet That wasn't anyone else's fault tho

Hey, got an email from SE

Zach Saucier

just saying we have a meta and chat :P

Shokhet

6:07 PM

@J.Musser No, but we discussed linking Meta posts in comments before in the Junk Drawer.

@J.Musser Yeah, I saw that. Made the leaderboard!! :)

J. Musser

I wonder why they put a bunch of stuff in there that I already knew.

idk

Shokhet

I agree with @ZachSaucier on this one:

If the question is not clear then don't reward them by answering it — Zach Saucier 1 min ago

Zach Saucier

why that question has upvotes is beyond my understanding

Shokhet

@J.Musser You may have known that, but I don't recall seeing certain of our high-rep users in Meta or Chat before.....

J. Musser

@Shokhet absolutely...

didn't see that one

@Shokhet Ah, true

Zach Saucier

6:15 PM

[cv-pls] lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2362/…

Shokhet

@ZachSaucier What more would you like him to add to the question? ....leaving a comment with your close vote would be more helpful than just voting to close

Zach Saucier

no reason to downvote will's answer on the question though

> I'm here to answer questions, not spend time dithering

lol

why the heck did he make that a community post?

J. Musser

lol idk

Shokhet

@ZachSaucier Protection from DVs?

Zach Saucier

I suppose

community posts are non-rollbackable. Huh

J. Musser

6:24 PM

@ZachSaucier unless you're a mod

Zach Saucier

As noted in the answer below, it's not really possible to answer this effectively without having a better idea of what you're trying to accomplish - there are plenty of possible solutions here, but the "best" one will depend on the purpose for which you're removing the nails. — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago

ayyy, diamond so useful

J. Musser

I get another dv on my nomination

Zach Saucier

:(

J. Musser

+22, -3

wow that's a lot of votes compared to some pro tem nominations I've seen

I like this beta

Zach Saucier

whoever it was made me catch up :P

J. Musser

6:36 PM

:D

Zach Saucier

commenting/voting/vtc on new people's answers and questions should automatically count as a "review" on it and count towards the badge

J. Musser

^^^

feature request?

Zach Saucier

probably is one, I'll look

J. Musser

I agree, i tend to see new posts before I see the review queue

Zach Saucier

can't find one

I'll post

J. Musser

7:06 PM

Can't dodge a vote I already received, can I? I don't feel it is appropriate to prevent others from answering by closing a question after having already availed myself of this privilege - therefore, I've donated this answer to the community. — William the Pleaser 37 mins ago

wut

Sabre Tooth

okay, downvoted lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/2275/…

J. Musser

@SabreTooth you can't dv your own post

oic

yeah, I guess someone didn't like it.

I don't like it when people do that without explanation

Sabre Tooth

@J.Musser I am aware of that

J. Musser

soic

Sabre Tooth

i thought it was on topic

J. Musser

7:20 PM

it is

but people can downvote on-topic questions if they want.

Sabre Tooth

@J.Musser yes, I aware of that too

J. Musser

good

Sabre Tooth

heathen downvoter - probably an anti-science g-botherer

J. Musser

;p

Sabre Tooth

may the fleas of a multitude of leprous camels take residence in their genitalia

J. Musser

7:36 PM

oh how gross

Sabre Tooth

quite proud of it

not doing too good on the site

so far, I have got rid of the mice - using a product different to what the answers are

J. Musser

was it hack?

Sabre Tooth

nope, that's why I have not posted it

J. Musser

I would've tried some hacks just for fun first.

Sabre Tooth

nope, need my sleep

sleep >>>> hack

I got the same type of email from SE.... like they're just giving them away

J. Musser

7:53 PM

yup

Sabre Tooth

I have 2 goals for my membership at LH.SE

Zach Saucier

@J.Musser

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Sabre Tooth

actually 3

Zach Saucier

was wondering where my rep on meta went. I forgot I put a bounty on this bug meta.stackexchange.com/q/240192/215485

lol, just found Sompuperoo's answer on a question of mine meta.stackexchange.com/a/223680/215485 before I knew of him

and I linked to apaul's answer in that same post xD meta.stackexchange.com/a/223613/215485 (I also chat with the second upvote answer's post in a SO chat)

who knew the active community was so small

J. Musser

8:18 PM

@ZachSaucier He used to have other names, such as Vote to Close, Stilly.stack, lostsock, user0000000, iStimple, and cVplZ.

@Zach looks ike youe question was asked before - by a former GL pro-tem

I ~~know~~ knew him

@ZachSaucier I knew Somp from the MSE tavern, where I am usually hanging.

Sabre Tooth

@ZachSaucier someone does not like science qustions... got a dv on the sunspotter question

Zach Saucier

I read

people will always dv good questions

J. Musser

^^

Sabre Tooth

heathens they be

Zach Saucier

8:38 PM

@J.Musser Since they closed my question I made an answer on the original :P meta.stackexchange.com/questions/111482/…

J. Musser

@ZachSaucier I see

Zach Saucier

I'm curious to see how many dvs that request has

J. Musser

@ZachSaucier 6

Zach Saucier

@J.Musser SyntaxError: Unexpected token %

J. Musser

dropproxy.com/f/7FC#split

^^ is where I found bookmarklets

@Zach or use

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Sabre Tooth

9:56 PM

i am going to delete the sunspotter question

Zach Saucier

@SabreTooth please don't

Sabre Tooth

it's gone - practically speaking, a science hack is not going to cut it here (in a similar way that experimental physics does not cut it at Physics.SE)

Zach Saucier

I disagree

you seem to be a pessimist

at the slightest sign of negativity you doubt yourself (from the limited interaction I've had with you thus far)

Sabre Tooth

10:16 PM

wow, you are way off the mark - I am not that superficial

Zach Saucier

As I said, I'm simply commenting based on my limited interaction with you

and I wouldn't say you're superficial

Sabre Tooth

I have spent sometime reflecting on a point made in the comments under the question

Zach Saucier

what was the comment?

Sabre Tooth

and realise that the commenter had a valid point, and then another member started with the nitpicking (that was ust the icing on the donut)

that while on topic, it is very unlikely to be answered hre

Zach Saucier

and it never will be if no one posts it

question types need an initial start, they don't suddenly come to be common

there's no harm being done by the question remaining up

it encourages more questions like it - which are useful

Sabre Tooth

10:24 PM

and by the nature of the topic (in my case, experimental physics) can not easily be written as a lifehack

Sabre Tooth

11:08 PM

and realistically, a science hack is not really applicable to everyday life, so thus is not a life hack

Shokhet

11:51 PM

Hello @JoachinJoseph; I'd love to chat, but I have to go now. Poor timing and all that. You'll be here later?

MacGyver

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Q: Does all questions require 'solutions already tried'?

What if I want to ask a question for which I have't got any idea what to do? What if I want to ask a question for other gender's general problems which I can not try? (She doesn't have internet access)

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