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12:00 AM
I've generally taught people how to do most of them directly.
 
papers that behind paywalls you can't get past (read: your institution doesn't pay for) are annoying
 
@Semiclassical Scissors > Paper
 
No, @user130018. I usually write the answer key to post in 1/3 the time of the exam or less.
 
@user130018 Not always, what about rock paper?
 
@user130018 Hey! I'm alright, thanks. :) How are you?
 
12:02 AM
@wordsthatendinGRY Yea, rocks can rip through paper as well
 
@user130018 No it is paper made of rock(think: stone tablets)
 
@wordsthatendinGRY Are oranges made of rocks too?
 
@user130018 That would be absurd
 
@wordsthatendinGRY I think you are absurd
 
@user130018 But yes
 
12:04 AM
@datalava I am doing fine, I got midterms until next week
 
With respect to the exams I've seen in some general exams in algebra where ask for the sylow theorem and the proof of at least one. It's not a terrible proof but is tricky and if you don't know have some idea of the proof it's almost impossible to find the answer in an hour. I think.
I have to go.
 
@user130018 :'(
 
@wordsthatendinGRY Don't cry
 
@user130018 :'''''''''''''''''''''''(
 
How are we friends?
 
12:07 AM
What does $f$ coincides in a certain interval with a polynomial mean?
 
$f$ is a polynomial within some interval I would think, but my English isn't perfect
$f= \left\{ \begin{align} x^2,\quad -2\leq x \leq 2 \\ 1,\quad \text{otherwise} \end{align} \right.$
 
@user130018 Ooh, good luck! What do you have exams in?
 
@datalava Just some boring classes
 
85
Q: If $f$ is infinitely differentiable then $f$ coincides with a polynomial

S.C.Let $f$ be an infinitely differentiable function on $[0,1]$ and suppose that for each $x \in [0,1]$ there is an integer $n \in \mathbb{N}$ such that $f^{(n)}(x)=0$. Then does $f$ coincide on $[0,1]$ with some polynomial? If yes then how. I thought of using Weierstrass approximation theorem, but ...

 
@datalava None of the courses I want are being offered next semester :(
@datalava So I have to take classes that I don't really have any interest in
 
12:12 AM
@user130018 :/ That's so annoying.
 
Is this what it seems it is? Because the question seems easy and clear but the answers are really weird.
Anyway I'm out
 
12:27 AM
I'm studying limits and I am trying to understand a part of the definition. According to the definition: For all $\epsilon > 0$ there is a $\delta > 0$ such that if $0 < |x-a| < \delta$ then $|f(x) - l| < \epsilon$. Why is stating that for $\delta > 0$ there is an $\epsilon > 0$ incorrect?
 
12:42 AM
@noahnu Because a definition is a definition. Understand the definition and you will know why it is stated like that. Essentially the two things you listed have completely different meanings. Think about what they mean for a few days.
 
I need help in my math homework
how can I prove the cardinality of $\mathbb R$ and $\mathbb R^2$ is the same? do i need choice?
thanks guys
 
Hi @JasperLoy
@JasperLoy I didn't receive any e-mails from you today
 
@user130018 Neither
 
@user130018 Yeah, because I did not send any. I will send you one when I feel like talking, thanks.
 
@user130018 Are we supposed to though?
 
12:45 AM
@wordsthatendinGRY are you the same person that used to have that account?
 
@wordsthatendinGRY What is your e-mail address?
 
@user130018 You may not believe this, since it was made deliberately for that reason: "Fakeemail@Imadethatup.com
@JorgeFernández No, that person is called Weapon of Choice
 
@wordsthatendinGRY Thanks, I'll add you to my address book and send you a confirmation e-mail
 
@user130018 Oh sorry, that really was a joke email lol
@user130018 Now I feel bad
 
Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
 
12:47 AM
LOL
 
@wordsthatendinGRY My e-mail address is fa@tfwno.gf
 
I don't actually have an email address to be honest
 
@wordsthatendinGRY That's too bad
@wordsthatendinGRY It's convenient; you should have one just because
 
When I sign up to anything I go to guerrillamail.com
And it gives you a temporary email address that gets destroyed when you are done
 
@wordsthatendinGRY I like creating, not destroying
 
12:49 AM
Well I have created hundreds, and personally destroyed none :)
 
@user130018 I hate your current email, so hard to remember.
 
@JasperLoy Just read it as "forever alone @ that feel when no girlfriend
 
@JasperLoy How many peoples email addressed do you have?
 
@user130018 Thanks.
 
@JasperLoy How many members of the secret club?
 
12:51 AM
@Committingtoachallenge About 30 from SE and 10 others.
 
Secret club??
 
@wordsthatendinGRY Only people with permanent e-mail addresses can join
 
You are cheating on me
 
@user130018 :''''''''''''(
 
@wordsthatendinGRY No word no cry
 
12:52 AM
what happened to the homework tag?
 
@JorgeFernández Deprecated
 
crap, I think I just created a tag called home, by accidentally trying to tag my question home
 
@wordsthatendinGRY Did you take that name from "user147263, wordsthatendinGRY, This is much healthier, 900-sit ups a day, Thursday, Care bear, Weapon of Choice"
 
LOL
Best usernames
 
12:54 AM
He left haha. But he mentioned Weapon of Choice so I would guess so
 
Are there any students here from UK?
I wanna ask them some questions about high school stuff.
 
I'm from Mexico
 
I'm from Mexico 2
 
@JorgeFernández @Committingtoachallenge Do you like school in your country?
 
@Committingtoachallenge what are you studying
 
12:55 AM
I am actually from Australia, Brisbane. But yes I do
 
@user130018 yes.
 
@JorgeFernández I am doing pure Math, but since I was doing Electrical engineering for awhile, I am still doing a few engineering-ish courses
 
oh, I'm doing pure math, in the best university in my country, partially it is the best because there aren't that many.
 
@JorgeFernández I wish I was at the best at anything
 
@user130018 Me too, my school is the best in my country, but I'm not
although I think being the best is kind of overrated
besides, it wouldn't be top in a lot of countries
 
12:58 AM
My uni is top 50 in math worldwide, which is alright, but some other uni's in australia are as high as top 20
 
my university I mean
 
@JorgeFernández I go to the worst school in my state
 
I think my uni is top 100 according to the rankings
 
I lived too far away from them though, so I didn't go there
 
@user130018 are you in pure math too?
 
12:59 AM
Australia isn't like the US and stuff with uni's you can get in pretty much anywhere super easily, and you pay 20k for the whole degree
 
@JorgeFernández Yes
 
and they are still top 50 worldwide
 
@Committingtoachallenge that's pretty awesome
 
Come live over here <3
 
@Committingtoachallenge Although I pay 2 cents a semester, so I've got that going for me
 
1:01 AM
Hi @datalava, how are you feeling tonight?
 
which is nice
 
@JorgeFernández Why $2$ cents?
 
yeah I pay 2 us cents, a semester, although I end up paying about 8 bucks because its the minimum if you pay in the bank, otherwise you have to go to a special office for people who pay in cash
 
My school is free
 
@user130018 I hope to meet you when I go to your country.
 
1:03 AM
I don't know why it's so cheap, but there are 400,000 students, so they get 8000 dollars out of it, which is a non-negligible amount
 
@JasperLoy When are you coming
 
@user130018 In 3 years.
 
@JasperLoy Oh, that's a while
@JasperLoy I might not even be alive then
 
@user130018 Same here.
@user130018 Hope keeps me alive.
 
@user130018 why not?
 
1:05 AM
@JorgeFernández I could get hit by a car and die
 
I see, well that would probably also be the case if he got there next week
 
Yup, same situation
But I thought the probability is higher since there's more time for me to die within 3 years than 1 week
 
@JasperLoy Hi Jasper. I'm alright, thanks. Don't have too much work to do tonight, which is nice. How're you?
 
@datalava Did you enjoy teaching your little rascals
 
unless, you have no plans of going near roadways for the next week, in that case you could also die from (insert valid cause of death here)
 
1:07 AM
@datalava I am OK, trying to get better. Also, waiting for your email, lol. But it's OK if you don't want to share.
 
Are we exchanging e-mails now?
 
@user130018 heh, yes. they were rowdy as always but good
 
@user130018 You and I already have, lol.
 
@JasperLoy e-mails, not e-mail addresses
 
@user130018 Aha. Hmm, OK I will send you an email in about 5 min.
 
1:08 AM
Sweet
 
@JasperLoy Idk what you want me to share.. Anything you want to know you can ask me here
 
@datalava Do you have any pets
 
@user130018 Yes, I have 2 cats
 
@datalava Nice!! I love cats!!
@datalava Do you have cat shirts?
 
@user130018 :3
@user130018 omg i have 2 cat shirts how embarrassing
 
1:10 AM
@datalava What kind of cat shirts? Do any of them have lasers shooting from their eyes? Astronaut cats?
 
@user130018 haha no. one just has a big cat face on it (my sister gave me that one, thanks sis) and one with like a faded pattern of a bunch of cats
 
@datalava You need more cool cat shirts
@datalava Are you considering purchasing any more?
 
@user130018 hm, I haven't thought about it. haha
@user130018 do you have cats?
 
@datalava No, I don't have my own private residence yet
@datalava Also I don't think school dormitories allow it either
 
@user130018 you live in a dorm?
 
1:14 AM
@datalava Not currently, but I probably will if I get into grad school
 
@user130018 yeah. they generally don't allow cats or dogs. some might allow smaller pets
 
@datalava I might get a turtle then
 
@user130018 Email sent.
 
@JasperLoy Thanks
@datalava I get all my cat shirts from Threadless
 
@user130018 :D
 
1:22 AM
@user130018 I hate animals. The last time I said that in this room, someone told me he wished I die a terrible death.
 
@JasperLoy lol
@JasperLoy Are you a vegan as well?
 
@user130018 I am not even a vegetarian.
@user130018 Are you going to reply to my email?
 
@JasperLoy Oh. I am
@JasperLoy Ok, I will reply
Hi @Saw
 
Hi @user1
Just coming from the ghat... oof.
 
@Saw I am @use
@Saw What is a "ghat"
 
1:25 AM
But that ll ping many, for example UserX.
 
@Saw But do you really care?
 
Thanks @Saw
 
The place you see is a ghat.
Terrible crowd.
 
@Saw A vedic monk approached me yesterday and gave me some free books for donating money to him
 
1:26 AM
@user130018 Thanks for your reply. You are very wise.
 
Vedic monk?
Like what books?
 
@Saw I don't know, he claimed he was a practicing Vedic monk and his guru sent him travelling
 
@user130018 Be careful, some of them are cheats. I have been cheated many times by people asking for money.
 
@Saw Let me get them, 1 sec
 
Hmm, I m sceptical.
 
1:27 AM
@JasperLoy He didn't ask for anything, he just wanted to share some information
 
What books?
 
@user130018 That sounds better. In any case, don't give out too much info to someone on the street.
 
I wonder what will happen if I put Americans in that crowd.
 
Hmm.
 
1:29 AM
@user130018 I read the Gita in high school.
 
@Saw He didn't ask me to join anything, he just told me some stuff and was about to leave and I felt bad for him because he was lugging around all this crap
 
@user130018 free for a donation...
 
@robjohn lol
 
@JasperLoy I have never read them.
Nor would ever.
@JasperLoy You had problems back from high school?
 
@Saw Are these cult books?
 
1:31 AM
Like the Bible or Quran..
 
@Sawarnik Always had. I live in a sick country and a sick family. Many people think my country is great, but I think the opposite. Those people are probably just interested in making money.
@user130018 Some religions feel like cults to me, eg those that are against gays.
 
No religion makes sense to me.
 
@user130018 You should read everything and decide for yourself.
@Sawarnik Same, except Buddhism.
 
What are cult books?
 
Cult books are books from cults.
 
1:34 AM
And not religious books?
 
@Sawarnik Dianetics, e.g.
 
Like I said, what is religion? What is a cult? Investigate these matters for yourself.
 
@Sawarnik books from religious cults
 
People these days go about doing evil in the name of religion.
 
@JasperLoy Buddhism is more sensible, but still not suited for today's world.
None are, they are old ideas.
 
1:36 AM
@datalava Are you affiliated with any religion?
 
i personally dislike modern new age stuff more than i mind traditional religion. at least with the latter one can see that as something that's part and parcel of culture and tradition.
 
@Sawarnik There are no old ideas. It is everlasting truth.
 
with modern new age stuff i just feel like it's someone trying to sell me something
 
I can't handle the truth
 
@user130018 my family is Jewish. I'm not religious. (Neither are they)
 
1:37 AM
@Semiclassical A lot of new age stuff actually goes way back, they are just labelled as new age because they are not mainstream.
 
@datalava I learned in urban history class about Jewish gangs/mafia here in NYC
 
@Semiclassical like justify it for killings?
 
well, yes. homoepathy, for instance, isn't a modern invention
 
@user130018 Many people prefer to listen to lies than the truth.
 
@JasperLoy Okay, so I get the difference between the two wordings, however why is the second one false? The correct definition states that there is a $\delta$ for every $\epsilon$. Why is there not an $\epsilon$ for every $\delta$? What is an example of this?
 
1:38 AM
the thing that gets my personal ire are people claiming that modern science---particularly quantum mechanics---supports this stuff
it does noooooooooot
 
@user130018 Yes, well, I've seen the movie Gangs of New York, so I probably know everything there is to know about that :P
 
@Semiclassical Just like there are many who don't understand religion but think they do, the same applies to science and math.
 
LOL @Semiclassical Reminds me of this garbage I once watched called "What the Bleep Do We Know!?" or something
 
twitch
please don't talk about that thing
 
@noahnu Order of symbological expressions matter. $\forall x \exists y \ne \exists y \forall x$
 
1:40 AM
@datalava We watched that in class; I think it had more to do with the Irish v.s. native citizens of America
 
so much pseudoscience packed into one place
 
@user130018 (I don't remember it at all).
 
Ok, I have to go, some things are still left...
 
@Sawarnik Cya friend
 
@datalava I learned that Larry King was affiliated with former Jewish gang members
 
1:41 AM
I've also seen West Side Story, so i'm basically an expert on all things ny gangs
 
lol
 
Great movie @Semiclassical
 
@MikeMiller I thought it was a broadway show
 
are you trying to give me an aneurysm
 
@datalava I went to a high school with wannabe gangster kids
 
1:43 AM
@user130018 That's interesting. Maybe my dad's side was too. His Jewish father grew up in new york, but I honestly don't know much about his lineage
 
@datalava Should've asked if he was in a gang
 
The Jews on my mom's side fled Nazi Europe. Always a compelling story there
 
Exciting gang stories > Depressing Nazi stories
 
What about exciting Nazi stories
 
Do the Nazis ever lose in those stories?
 
1:49 AM
...like that Quentin Tarantino movie...
 
Oh, the one with Mr. Brad Pitt in it?
I think it has a swear word in the title
 
Yes, but it's spelled with an "e" instead of an "a"
 
I went to my geometry professor for help on a proof yesterday, and he couldn't prove it himself @_@
 
Couldn't prove what?
 
2:00 AM
The circumcenter, orthocenter, and centroid of a triange are colinear
 
Yucky problem xD
 
This professor is never prepared.
@Committingtoachallenge Yeah, I'm not having much fun with it myself.
@Committingtoachallenge Not having that much fun with geometry in general, but I have to take it :<
 
I am really really bad with geometry because I have never learnt anything in it xD. I don't even know what a circumcenter or an orthocenter are, and I think the centroid is the center of gravity so to speak(assuming uniform density)
 
@Committingtoachallenge circumcenter = intersection of perpendicular bisectors, orthocenter = intersection of altitudes
 
Where bisector is? and altitude is?
I should really learn some geometry I just realised xD
 
2:05 AM
a bisector a line that goes through the midpoint of a segment, so a perpendicular bisector bisects at a right angle
and an altitude is a line that goes from a vertex to the opposite side and hits that side at a right angle
 
geometrically, circumcenter means you can draw a circle which is centered at that point and which crosses through all the vertices
 
That is much more self explanatory xD
 
that requires all the vertices to be the same distance from the center of the circle, and that's guaranteed when you draw the perp. bisectors
 
Can someone please help me?
 
or, in other words, every point on the perp. bisector of two points is by construction the same distance from both of those two points
 
2:07 AM
because a point is in the perpendicular bisector of a segment iff it is the center of a circle which passes through the endpoints of that segment
 
Why aren't we having this chat in the Geometry room haha
 
so if you draw the three perp. bisectors and look for the point of intersection, it'll have to be the same distance from all three
b/c we forgot there's a Geometry room, hah. but good point, moving over there
 
@Committingtoachallenge hey, you asked about it
 
@datalava I meant we including myself haha
 
@wordsthatendinGRY someone might if you tell us what you need help with
 
2:09 AM
My question with bounties to be picked math.stackexchange.com/questions/980490/…
 
Oh, @wordsthatendinGRY I thought that was a riddle LOL
 
@user130018 What do you mean?
 
@wordsthatendinGRY You know what I mean
 
@user130018 What was a riddle, the actual question or my "bounties to be picked"
?
My roleplay question?
No it was an actual problem, a hard one on controlled time optimization
 
@user130018 I hope What the Bleep is a Broadway show
 
2:18 AM
if they made a "what the bleep" satirical musical, i'd go
 
@user130018 What was a riddle... :(
@user130018 Look at my attempt answer math.stackexchange.com/questions/980490/… It is massive...
@WeaponofChoice Do you know how to do Time-optimal control?
 
@MikeMiller Stahp
 
@user130018 Did you put me on ignore???
 
E-mail I got from my school: "...the Office of Public Safety received reports from two female students that a young male who does not appear to be a QC student had made them feel uncomfortable while attending classes in Powdermaker Hall. According to both complainants, the unidentified individual (sat) positioned himself closely behind the female student, thereby violating her personal space and causing her to feel uncomfortable during class."
How do you "appear" to not be a student
@wordsthatendinGRY Yes, I have you on ignore so I can't read what you're saying
@wordsthatendinGRY Don't cry
 
@user130018 Can you unignore me?
 
2:25 AM
@wordsthatendinGRY No, it's permanent
@wordsthatendinGRY It has been done
 
@user130018 But you need to read my messages, they are good
 
@wordsthatendinGRY Sorry, no can do. I guess I will never read your good messages ever again
 
@user130018 What riddle?
 
@user130018 That's not such a bad email. I get emails about ppl getting mugged and sexually assaulted at my school.
 
@wordsthatendinGRY Sorry, I can't read your question
@datalava My school isn't in a bad area so it's okay
 
2:28 AM
@user130018 I hate you
@user130018 Nah jokes I love you :)
 
@wordsthatendinGRY I'm sorry
 
No but seriously, my question has been up for 10 days
 

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