Charcoal HQ

Undo

12:01 AM

okay, turned it off in the Tavern. Here goes nothing...

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Undo

!!/block

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Undo

!!!

SmokeDetector

blocked

Undo

12:02 AM

yay

SmokeDetector

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[ SmokeDetector ] Matches .*: Why do phase transitions even exist? Why not a smooth density change curve? on physics.stackexchange.com

hichris123

... uh...

Undo

... @hichris123 ^

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hichris123

wait, did it fix itself?

Undo

12:03 AM

no, me killed it :P

hichris123

Oh.

Well, hmm...

@Undo just log blockedTime and time.time()

Undo

k

incoming...

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Undo

!!/block

SmokeDetector

blocked

[ SmokeDetector ] Matches .*: How do I help create story around the table without writing it? on rpg.stackexchange.com (blockedTime: 0 | time.time(): 1410739587.2)

Undo

12:07 AM

(killed)

That's using:

s="[ [SmokeDetector](github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector) ] %s: [%s](%s) on `%s` (blockedTime: `%s` | time.time(): `%s`)" % (reason,titleToPost,d["url"],d["siteBaseHostAddress"],blockedTime,time.time())

hichris123

huh, so blockedTime didn't get changed.

Try doing global blockedTime at the top, @Undo.

Undo

  File "ws.py", line 22
    global blockedTime = 0
                       ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

hichris123

global blockedTime
blockedTime = 0

^ try that

Undo

here we go

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Undo

12:11 AM

!!/block

SmokeDetector

blocked

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Undo

... nope

hichris123

gah

SmokeDetector

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[ SmokeDetector ] Matches .*: Joining QGIS extent table with shapefile on gis.stackexchange.com (blockedTime: 0 | time.time(): 1410739848.61)

Undo

(killed)

here, let me commit what I have

hichris123

12:13 AM

wait, I think I got it. maybe.

Change line 23 back to just blockedTime = 0, and then in the watcher method do a global BlockedTime.

Undo

huh?

Edit it in the repo, I'm not understanding

hichris123

I'll edit it in.

There.

Undo

incoming

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hichris123

!!/block

Undo

12:17 AM

!!/block

SmokeDetector

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Undo

backlog now

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Matches .*: What is the pixels to units property in Unity sprites used for? on gamedev.stackexchange.com (blockedTime: 0 | time.time(): 1410740217.87)

blocked

Undo

heh

hichris123

hey, did it... work?

Undo

12:18 AM

no

it's trying to post:

[ [SmokeDetector](github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector) ] Matches .*: [When did ?ain't? become slang](english.stackexchange.com/questions/196395/…) on `english.stackexchange.com` (blockedTime: `1410741120.73` | time.time(): `1410740251.6`)

I think

hichris123

That's okay.

Undo

might be ratelimited

hichris123

It just blocks it from posting.

Undo

@hichris123 oh, so it's working?

hichris123

yep.

Undo

12:19 AM

Yay!

hichris123

blockedTime != 0 anymore.

Undo

so...

!!/unblock

SmokeDetector

unblocked

Undo

...

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hichris123

12:19 AM

there.

Undo

awesome

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Matches .*: Requiring a pin instead of password for websites? on security.stackexchange.com (blockedTime: 1410740331.82 | time.time(): 1410740351.92)

Undo

!!/block

SmokeDetector

blocked

Undo

okay, I'm gonna kill the .* thing and merge into master

hichris123

12:20 AM

okay.

Or, I can do it if it's easier.

Undo

nah, I'm already in vim

hichris123

@Undo Are you going to let the Tavern see when it starts, or just keep it out?

Undo

Is there any reason they need to see?

Right now it won't.

hichris123

meh.

Undo

We could add a !!/isawake command, available to anyone.

or !!/alive?

hichris123

12:25 AM

Hmm, that's a good idea.

SmokeDetector

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okay, all set :D

!!/block

blocked

!!/unblock

12:27 AM

unblocked

bjb568

!!/block

Undo

heh

That ain't gonna work, @bjb568

bjb568

Why?

Undo

'cause

hichris123

Uh... you broke something @Undo.

Undo

12:28 AM

I did?

bjb568

@Undo Cause what?

Undo

@bjb568 study github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/ws.py#L88

hichris123

@Undo github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/commit/…

Undo

... oh :P

hichris123

@Undo might want to pull...

Undo

12:33 AM

I'm trying to.

Fighting screen atm :P

bjb568

@Undo Add me!

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Undo

@bjb568 I sure would if you demonstrate that you wouldn't abuse it and are trustworthy ;)

bjb568

@Undo Kittens are always trustworthy.

Now… what kind of demonstration?

hichris123

@Undo what would you think of using deploy keys? I'm not sure how they work, looking into it, but looks cool.

Undo

12:37 AM

@hichris123 never heard of them, I'll look them up.

@bjb568 By acting near-perfect on chat and the main sites over the next few months ;)

Oh, on that note: @hichris123 have any objections to adding ProgramFOX to the whitelist?

He can push to the repo anyway.

hichris123

nope, no objection.

2 hours ago, by Annonomus Penguin

Let me finish the code... also you should make the array of user IDs that are allowed into one string so it is ~~easy to kick Undo out~~ adaptable.

@Undo ^

Undo

meh, maybe.

although how we have it works for now

Annonomus Penguin

@hichris how is it going?

hichris123

@AnnonomusPenguin !!/block

Annonomus Penguin

Transcript too long: me is lazy

hichris123

12:41 AM

!!/block

SmokeDetector

blocked

hichris123

new message needed

!!/unblock

unblocked

So it works then?

yup

12:42 AM

yup :D

Annonomus Penguin

Cool!

bjb568

@Undo Can't you look at the last past months?

Annonomus Penguin

Did you test it with a message to make sure it works?

SmokeDetector

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Undo

we tested it with .*, @AnnonomusPenguin

Annonomus Penguin

12:42 AM

So what are you two working on?

Undo

nothing right now.

Looking at deploy keys

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo for what?

Undo

huh, so it would make GH call a thing on the server to automatically pull new commits @hichris123?

@AnnonomusPenguin Smokey

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo are you talking about deployment keys, still?

Undo

yeah

hichris123

12:48 AM

@Undo I think.

Annonomus Penguin

That'd be cool... the only issue is would it restart Smoke?

Undo

yeah, I think we can do that.

I've got to go, thanks for the block code :D

cya everyone

hichris123

cya.

Andy

Have you guys seen this?

ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='chat.meta.stackexchange.com', port=80): Max retries exceeded with url: /events (Caused by <class 'httplib.BadStatusLine'>: '')

?

Annonomus Penguin

Oh hi @Andy!

Andy

12:57 AM

Hi

Annonomus Penguin

@Andy That error from Smokey?

Andy

No. Using ChatExchange though

Annonomus Penguin

It looks like the connection code is getting looped and then the server is blocking you.

Even thought what is this?: httplib.BadStatusLine

> A subclass of HTTPException. Raised if a server responds with a HTTP status code that we don’t understand.

Source: stackoverflow.com/questions/1767934/…

@Andy can you try using cURL in the command line to see what status code it returns?

Andy

It's coming from here in ChatExchange: github.com/Manishearth/ChatExchange/blob/master/chatexchange/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry '95600000_1410688544-0-2' for key 3 on magento.stackexchange.com

Annonomus Penguin

1:02 AM

@Undo Regex false positive ^^^

@Andy read my messages before your last message

The server is basically returning an error code (404, 301, etc.) that the HTTP library being used doesn't understand.

Makes sense?

Andy

@AnnonomusPenguin I'll have to figure out what is being sent. I will give that a shot though.

Thanks

Annonomus Penguin

1:15 AM

Use cURL on your server @Andy

If it's installed, of course.

Doorknob

1:40 AM

@Undo 59776? ;)

Undo

2:15 AM

@Doorknob sure ;)

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!!/alive?

Of course

:D

:D

2:19 AM

(anyone can use that)

hichris123

Does it work in other rooms?

Undo

nope, only here

hichris123

k

Undo

We could probably extend it to the Tavern, but that'd be tomorrow if I'm doing it

hichris123

@Undo Or... push it to GH, y'know. :P

Undo

2:21 AM

just did

I think I messed up the commit message, though :P

hichris123

add git add

yup

Undo

"!!/alive?" must be chock full of bash keywords or something :P

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Undo

!!/alive?

hichris123

!!/alive?

!!/dead

Undo

2:24 AM

i messed it up

Trying to make it reply to the message

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev 2f10c22 (@Undo)

!!/alive?

@Undo Of course

yay

hey, that's cool.

2:28 AM

!!/alive

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@AnnonomusPenguin Of course

Annonomus Penguin

!!/dead?

Undo

heh

Annonomus Penguin

One second....

!!/dead?

SmokeDetector

@AnnonomusPenguin Of course

Annonomus Penguin

2:29 AM

@Undo ^ :P

Undo

... the heck?

>:( you tricked me

Annonomus Penguin

hehe

hichris123

@Undo should work on mSE now.

Annonomus Penguin

But @Undo do you have any tasks that need to be done on SmokeDetector? I don't know a ton of Python but I'd be eager to learn and I pick up new languages fast!

Undo

@hichris123 I think you're going to need a roomm.join

hichris123

2:31 AM

@Undo github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/…

Oh, gotcha.

There @Undo.

Annonomus Penguin

The Python doesn't look that modular. I'm not an expert, but you should be able to just use an array and a foreach() loop so you can modify things very quickly without bugs.

Maybe it's faster this way though

Trade offs, I guess

Shrugs

hichris123

@AnnonomusPenguin hmm?

Can I has pull @Undo?

Annonomus Penguin

@hichris123 things like roomm and wrapm should be in arrays with room and wrap methinks so you can do a simple foreach(room[] as currentRoom) { currentRoom.foobar()

With the correct syntax, of course.

hichris123

@AnnonomusPenguin Ah, you could do that.

I'm doing it this way for the watcher since if anyone were to ever have our chat ID's on chat.mSE, I don't want them to be able to kill the bot.

Undo

@AnnonomusPenguin Really, just pick out any annoyance you have with it, any feature you want, etc. and work on it.

We don't really have a list.

okay, pulling...

hichris123

2:37 AM

@Undo Do you know how eerily familiar this sounds? I swear you said that to me about Charcoal.

Dec 30 '13 at 3:18, by Undo

@hichris123 Anything you want.

SmokeDetector

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:2406956 Of course

Undo

... you made a mistake :P

:2406957 Of course

Oh, ooops.

I'll fix

2:39 AM

thanks. ;P

Annonomus Penguin

@Undo Of course

:P

6 mins ago, by Annonomus Penguin

The Python doesn't look that modular. I'm not an expert, but you should be able to just use an array and a foreach() loop so you can modify things very quickly without bugs.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev e8fb171 (@Undo)

Undo

@AnnonomusPenguin Fork it and do it :D

Annonomus Penguin

:D I might have to work on this some if I have time. I have two other major projects so I'll have to wait on this for a month or so.

Do you guys use Github issues when you have new ideas? You should; I think a lot of others might see that and try to work on this.

Undo

@AnnonomusPenguin usually when we have new ideas we just do them.

But hichris did put the block idea in issues.

Annonomus Penguin

2:43 AM

@Undo that works :)

BTW do the smoke detector messages ever get deleted?

Undo

Not automatically, no.

Annonomus Penguin

Going to bed, 'night

Undo

'night

hichris123

night

@Undo yeah, since I didn't know if it was a good idea/how to do it. :P

SmokeDetector

9:45 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: BUSINESS LOANS AVAILABLE? on money.stackexchange.com

Undo

1:08 PM

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@Undo Of course

Undo

I love that :D

Andy

1:59 PM

@Undo, when SmokeDetector throws an exception and dies, how do you restart it automatically?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: IBM MQ 7.1 RC 2035 MQRC_NOT_AUTHORIZED on stackoverflow.com

Undo

2:21 PM

#!/bin/bash
read -p "Username: " u
export ChatExchangeU=$u
export CEU="h"
stty -echo
read -p "Password: " p
export ChatExchangeP=$p
stty echo
while :
do
   python ws.py
done

@Andy ^

Andy

2:36 PM

Ah. Not from within Smoke Detector. That explains why I wasn't seeing it in the code.

Thank you

Wait, so that means if just one of the rooms Smoke Detector is in has an issue you rejoin all of them. Right?

Undo

I think

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev e8fb171 (@Undo)

Undo

(I just realized I started it wrong last night :P)

SmokeDetector

3:18 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev e8fb171 (@Undo)

Undo

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@Undo Of course

SmokeDetector

3:33 PM

@ManishEarth Of course

ManishEarth

!!/alive?

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 That's a nice feature!

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Of course

Andy

4:25 PM

@SmokeDetector How did Smokey reply before the question was asked and can it be taught how to do this with lottery numbers?

Wow...that's an amazingly helpful onebox

He replied to ManishEarth's alive prompt before it was asked

ProgramFOX

@Andy Errmm... it didn't.

Andy

Says it did on my window.

pokes window

ProgramFOX

@Andy ^

Andy

What do you see in the transcript?

I see it as Smokey replying first

ProgramFOX

Hmm... there is shows Smokey's reply before ManishEarth's message.

Though Manish's message has a smaller ID than Smokey's message.

Andy

4:29 PM

I'm not crazy, people!

ProgramFOX

Probably it's a glitch in the transcript-building page, because Manish's message actually was there before Smokey's message, according to the message IDs.

SmokeDetector

5:30 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CAN I STILL ENTER ANY SCHENGEN MEMBER STATE IF I HAVE BEEN DENIED ENTRY IN ANOTHER? on travel.stackexchange.com

Andy

7:29 PM

Feature request: limit command usage to known approved users. Especially with the new alive command.

See this block on the tavern for reference on why responding to anyone seems to be ripe for abuse/annoyance: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2410147#2410147

hichris123

8:28 PM

@Andy !!/alive is the only command given to everyone.

IMO, it's fine as it's just supposed to be a easy way to check it's alive, but... depends on if people start abusing it.

Andy

9:22 PM

Do you consider editing messages to make a conversation with SD an abuse?

hichris123

meh.

Doorknob

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector