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4:00 PM
So lack of research?
 
@MBraedley I don't see a problem needing a solution.
If anyone asks a question that goes, "Hey, what's this greater rift thingy, and oh, by the way, I ignored all the data the game told me about it", I'd do the same thing.
 
@Frank We aren't just problem solvers. Fact finding questions are perfectly valid
 
@MBraedley And ignoring the facts the game gives you is exactly what downvotes are for.
 
1 min ago, by MBraedley
So lack of research?
 
Downvotes can be summed up as follows:
 
4:02 PM
@MBraedley It's self answered.
 
@MBraedley Lack of research, lack of effort, take your pick.
 
Seems kind of silly to say "Lack of research" on a self answered question.
Just call it what you wanna call it: Rep whoring
 
@OrigamiRobot A question, regardless of self answering or not, needs to display a problem. This question, doesn't have that.
 
I haven't actually looked at the question (being at work and all (stupid work filter)), I'm just going by what @Lazers posted.
 
And note I haven't downvoted the answer; just the question itself.
Because the game really does explain Greater Rifts.
 
4:05 PM
This drama is only a 3. Please crank it up to 11.
 
I'm not seeing how this doesn't display a problem
 
If you're going to ignore it, well, that definitely deserves a downvote.
 
"What is this new feature and how does it work" sounds completely within our scope
 
5 mins ago, by Frank
If anyone asks a question that goes, "Hey, what's this greater rift thingy, and oh, by the way, I ignored all the data the game told me about it", I'd do the same thing.
We should not be a substitute for laziness.
 
Assuming the OP read the tutorial and still had questions?
 
4:06 PM
@Batophobia Then ask THOSE questions.
 
maybe the game lacks a tutorial?
 
@Batophobia It doesn't.
 
Then yea
not close-vote worthy, but definitely lack of effort
 
@Frank It doesn't give you a complete picture though. For instance it doesn't tell you that the Keystone of Trials only has a chance to drop, or at least if it does it doesn't make it clear enough. Most of the forum threads I've seen are people complaining that the Keystone of Trials is broken because it didn't drop first time for them. As for "is this really necessary?" - that's entirely subjective and isn't actually that relevant. The real question is "is this useful?", which I feel that it is. If I didn't I wouldn't have spent the time writing it. — JonK 7 mins ago
See, now THAT question I would support. That's not something the game makes clear. Everything else, though, is explained rather well. — Frank 5 mins ago
@Frank And I do cover that here, but I also wanted to create something a little broader than that to include more of the little things that the introduction doesn't cover. — JonK 2 mins ago
 
falls into the same boat as our lowest-ranked question
 
4:08 PM
cc: @Sterno
 
When did @Wipqozn stop being a turtle?
 
@fredley Quiet you. I'm throwing in quotes to try to make this drama a bit juicy.
@Batophobia About 2 hours ago.
 
I would downvote that if I could
 
2 hours ago, by Wipqozn
Also, in a way you could say I'm still a Turtle, since pride lives in a shell... just like a turtle.
 
@Batophobia Yep, which is where I'm coming from.
 
4:11 PM
Not quite as bad though
 
Not close worthy, but should definitely be downvoted for the lack of effort the explanation requires.
 
I just ignore things like that
never played Diablo 3 so no idea what he's talking about
 
Should I be playing D3 again or is it safe to just keep ignoring it?
 
@Sterno Seasons start tonight!
 
4:14 PM
@Sterno Just keep ignoring it. Play Etrian Odyessy instead.
 
@StrixVaria I will never, ever be competitive in that. Not enough time
 
I'm not planning on playing it to be competitive. I just like the fresh start.
 
I like all my stuff that I already killed lots of monsters to acquire.
Is rifting more fun now?
 
@Sterno There are new gems, and gives you a new aspect for progression.
 
4:15 PM
@StackExchange Thank you, that avatar is abysmal. The turtle knew what was coming to it.
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@StackExchange Well that's just uncalled for.
@badp Well, I like it!
I'm not going to let you mods boss me around.
 
@Wipqozn You're crossing that line where you're no longer welcome to be wrong on the internet
AVATARS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS
 
@badp I can be wrong all I like!
 
4:18 PM
Topless @Wipqozn
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Down with awful avatars, give us Wipqalot!
11
 
@Sterno It'd be funnier if it let you get it, and the weight instantly crushes you.
 
succumb to peer pressure, turtle!
 
@fredley WIPQALOT IS DEAD!
 
@Wipqozn THE WIPQALOT IS DEAD! LONG LIVE THE WIPQALOT!
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4:20 PM
The starred list is quickly filling with @Wipqozn
I think we've fallen into his trap
 
I could always modabuse his picture back...
 
Turtle traps are the most dangerous traps of all.
@fredley If you do that, I'll delete my account.
 
win-win
 
I could modabuse everyone's accounts to wipqalot...
 
I am groot
 
4:21 PM
@fredley A world of wipqozns? I'd be fine with this.
 
 
@badp dem subpixels
 
YOU ARE THIS WRONG, TURTLE
 
*Everyone has been added to the list of this room's owners*
*@Lazers has removed everyone from the list of this rooms owners*
 
@fredley THEY ARE LOOKING ALL ODD BECAUSE THE TURTLE IS OVERLOADING MY METER
IT WAS ONLY CALIBRATED UP TO 10 MEGAWRONGS
 
4:23 PM
NaN MEGAWRONGS
2
 
THIS IS DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, TURTLE.
 
MegaWrong Overflow
 
NaN NaN-o-WRONGS
 
@badp NaN nanowrongs?
Is that even measurable?
 
I knew that changing my avatar wouldn't go over well, but I wasn't prepare for this level of chaos. So much death, destruction, and sorrow...
 
4:24 PM
Only because the new avatar is awful
 
@Wipqozn It seems you were wrong about it!
 
@Sterno is pleased that the drama has increased to 11
 
@Wipqozn Now you know it was the right choice
 
@Batophobia Fake drama doesn't count.
 
@fredley That's the joke
 
4:25 PM
@fredley Your face is awful!
OH BUUURRRNNN
 
4:37 PM
My package still hasn't arrived. They said it would arrive on September 2nd, and it's still not there!
 
user15026
@Wipqozn Um...do I need to point this out?
 
@AshleyNunn Point what out? That I'm far too patient?
Because I should probably call Canada Post and complain.
 
user15026
@Wipqozn Yes. That. of course.
 
4:51 PM
Chat is saturated from all those megawrongs and no further messages fit in here anymore.
 
@badp Sorry
 
@Unionhawk Nah, it wasn't you this time around.
 
I think if I leave, it should return to normal levels
 
I blame @fredley, @badp, and @Unionhawk.
 
@Wipqozn Still wrong
 
4:57 PM
@Wipqozn This is a logical following prior to pointing out a fallacy with your statement, yep.
@Sterno Oh, sure, NOW you add the caveats.
 
@Sterno Your mom's fake drama.
 
Because I'm mean (cc @SaintWacko)
HOW DOES IT FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
 
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Q: Second District Roof door is locked?

GuyI have 9/10 postcards in Traverse Town in the original Kingdom Hearts. I am pretty sure the last one I was missing is the one postcard you get when you go to the roof of the Gizmo Shop, run across the house roofs, and enter a door to the third district to target something. However, when I go to ...

 
@Lazers KH QUESTION! YES!
 
5:06 PM
Hiiiiiiiiiii!
 
Howdy
 
@Play I knew it!
 
Did @Fluttershy change his name or something?
'Cause he's still @Fluttershy for me.
 
5:08 PM
As soon as I saw that gravatar I thought "I bet that's that damn @fluttershy!"
AND I WAS RIGHT
cc @OrigamiRobot @fredley
 
@StackExchange incoming banhammer
 
@Wipqozn Better expand the list of @Fluttershy's warcrimes
 
I heard we were doing FMA avatars!
 
@Fluttershy War Crimes
- Thinks what happened to Nina in FMA was funny
- Hates popcorn
- Hates cake
- hates puppies
- Hates kittens
- Hates Rainbows
- Hates when others are happy
 
@Wipqozn how dare you, sir. I love puppies.
Puppies are the best.
 
5:10 PM
@Play Yeah, the nina infused kind.
 
@Play Oh, well in that case, I'll file it under @Wipqozn's warcrimes then
 
@Unionhawk Actually, if we want to place blame..
3 hours ago, by Origami Robot
@Fluttershy could be Nina
 
I don't know what's real anymore
 
@Batophobia Nothing is real.
Except @fluttershy's hatred of all things good in the world.
 
Except my love for playing!
 
5:13 PM
@Play You're a monster.
OH GOD I JUST MAD EIT WORSE
 
@Wipqozn I am not a monster. ;_; I just want to play.
 
NOOOOOO
HE TRAPPED ME
Man, this is just devious.
 
Whoa, whoa, whoa, is @Wipqozn calling Nina a monster? That's cold.
 
spam calls to my cell phone: not appreciated
 
@OrigamiRobot EXACTLY! FLUTTERSHY IS EVIL! LOOK WHAT HE MADE ME DO!
This is the worst possible thing that could have ever happened in the history of forever.
 
5:14 PM
@MBraedley And sadly, there's very little you can do about it.
Blocking the number does nothing, as they can just spoof a different one.
 
I couldn't find the spray paint I need :(
cc @KevinvanderVelden
 
@OrigamiRobot What kind are you looking for?
 
user15026
@Play I hate you so much right now :P
 
@Frank Brushed copper and brass (brushed gold usually works)
 
@AshleyNunn only right now though.
 
5:17 PM
@AshleyNunn hates Nina too?!?!?!
 
@OrigamiRobot I found a darker gold-ish color. It's pretty close to brass, I think.
 
@OrigamiRobot is apparently my only friend. :(
 
@Frank I know it's out there, the problem is finding it locally.
I love @Play
 
:D
 
@OrigamiRobot @AshleyNunn SEE! SEE WHAT EVIL @FLUTTERSHY HAS BROUGHT DOWN ON US?
Also, I went to get a drumstick, but there all gone and it's all @Fluttershy's fault.
 
user15026
5:20 PM
@Wipqozn Chicken or ice cream, or object for drumming?
 
Yea, @Fluttershy is terrible.
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@AshleyNunn ice cream
 
@OrigamiRobot I can't help you there, and I don't think the post office would look kindly on me attempting to ship a used can of spray paint.
 
user15026
@Wipqozn Yum. Sorry you didn't get any.
 
@OrigamiRobot Well, Fluttershy is the Cult leader of those who worship Lord Smooz.
 
5:21 PM
@Frank You could just tell me the brand
I'm not adverse to buying it online, I'd just rather buy it in person.
 
@Powerlord Praise Smooze
 
@AshleyNunn blame @fluttershy.
 
@OrigamiRobot I can probably do you one better.
 
I wonder if Twilight Sparkle has Charity and Applesack in her shipfic folder
 
5:23 PM
Evening.
 
If I am really luck, I will still have the can from when I did my other guns so at least I can get the same stuff.
 
@Powerlord Are you talking about the card game?
 
@murgatroid99 Yes
 
@OrigamiRobot This is what it looks like:
 
Charity and Applesack were from one of the Friendship is Witchcraft episodes... in which Twilight Sparkle made a fanfic and was making AppleJack and Rarity act it out
 
user15026
5:25 PM
 
user15026
This is awesome.
 
This is the can:
 
@Powerlord Oh, I know what it is. I just needed a second to check the game
 
You can't see it, but it's metallic gold.
 
Is that spray paint?
 
5:26 PM
@OrigamiRobot Yep
 
@Powerlord this is a card
 
I'm so sad that my package doesn't look like it'll be arriving before the long weekend.
 
@Wipqozn Mine had better.
 
Oh well. I suppose I can get caught up ON EO3 an reading then.
 
Gah. Has anyone heard anything about the KH remix getting a NA collector's edition?
 
5:28 PM
If it doesn't, Amazon is going to receive nasty words from me.
 
cc @FAE @OthersWhoLikeKingdomHearts
 
@Frank I have not.
Luckily I've never played KH, so it doesn't negatively impact me.
 
I liked Kingdom Hearts, but I started losing interest when the series started mooing.
 
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Also, apparently MSN Messenger is gone completely now?
 
5:31 PM
The next time I find a spray paint I like, i'm writing down the exact product number :/
 
@OrigamiRobot That may be a good idea.
 
@Frank gold is poisonous?
 
@badp I think spray paint in general isn't something you want to ingest.
 
I distinctly remember putting some cans in a box before I moved. I hope I can find them.
 
user15026
My tattoo is in the bumpy "I am going to peel soon" stage and that is weird.
 
5:42 PM
Hmm, AT&T is suing Cox cable... for using products that "violate" their patents.
 
@AshleyNunn Wouldn't it be better to just wear a t-shirt with whatever message you want? :P
 
I guess AT&T forgot something:
The exhaustion doctrine, also referred to as the first sale doctrine, is a U.S. common law patent doctrine that limits the extent to which patent holders can control an individual article of a patented product after an authorized sale. Under the doctrine, once an unrestricted, authorized sale of a patented article occurs, the patent holder’s exclusive rights to control the use and sale of that article are exhausted, and the purchaser is free to use or resell that article without further restraint from patent law. However, under current law, the patent owner retains the right to exclude purchasers...
 
@Powerlord Welcome to attempting to bleed competitors dry, rather than compete.
 
user15026
@badp Nope. :)
 
user15026
This makes me happy.
 
5:43 PM
@Frank The best part? At least one of the patents they're using to sue is used in the DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem standard.
 
Xenoblade is going to be represented in Smash Bros. as well
 
@Powerlord Which makes the lawsuit even more disingenuous.
 
starting to feel like smash4 is going to be badly bloated with characters, just because it can. instead of having quality over quantity.
 
@Rapitor Wait until they start adding characters via DLC!
 
i thought even brawl had a bit much
 
5:46 PM
...and before someone says "Nintendo wouldn't do that!", I'll point out that's exactly what they're doing with Mario Kart 8.
 
yeah but MK8 is free DLC no?
 
@Rapitor For one of the DLCs (to add a car), yes. The Zelda and Animal Crossing DLC, no.
 
oh
 
They're $8 each or $12 if you preorder both.
 
well thats a bit lame... Nintendo has been hanging around the "bad influences" too long..
 
5:49 PM
Oh. The new 3DS is actually required to play Xenoblade.
That's...gonna cause confusion.
 
@Powerlord well that's just cosmetic stuff right?
 
@badp Drivers, cars, and tracks.
 
user15026
@Frank Apparently they are going to make this clear somehow on the boxes but like considering it is just called "new 3ds" that isn't going to stop people from not having any idea and being super mad
 
I haven't played MK8, but in all other MKs I've played, cars each have their own stats.
 
For-pay tracks or maps are bullshit.
 
5:51 PM
@AshleyNunn And they're too similar now. We've got the DS, DSi, 3DS, 3DS XL, and 2DS. And this latest and greatest...is just the 3DS and 3DS XL.
Yeah, there'll be some backlash on that one.
 
user15026
I wouldn't count the DS/DSi as part of this - they're a separate gen.
 
@Frank At least with the other times this has happened it was obvious. Also, most GameBoy Color games could still be played on the GameBoy. DSi games were pretty much ALL downloadable titles and the normal DS didn't have an online game store...
 
...an analogue nub?
 
@AshleyNunn It's the name similarity.
 
That's going to be awful.
 
user15026
5:53 PM
@Frank PS1/2/3/4, xbox/360/one
 
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ZibbobzRecently I asked a question about what genre a particular set of games falls under. It was answered and accepted, and the answer given recieved 10 votes (though the question recieved 2 upvotes and 2 downvotes). Today, while making an edit to a question that uses the same tag as mine, I found ...

 
user15026
that's not exactly a new phenomena.
 
@AshleyNunn DS/3DS/2DS, actual chronological order. But 2DS = 3DS. So why isn't DS a 3DS?
 
@badp i don't really care if maps are DLC exclusive, but DLC equipment is seriously no bueno.
 
user15026
@Frank because it isn't 3d?
 
5:54 PM
@AshleyNunn Neither is the 2DS.
 
@Rapitor DLC exclusive maps segregate your players
 
user15026
I think you are looking at this a little too pedantically.
 
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KtashA Plea for Sanity Can we take a step back and consider this for a moment. What really happened here is we had a troll make a post to try and bait users into believing their unsubstantiated answer. And they successfully got a few upvotes in the process, and people fed the troll. We got trolled, a...

 
@AshleyNunn I think this is actual confusion users have.
 
They basically prevent you from playing with your friends.
 
5:54 PM
Especially parents.
 
@Rapitor Mortal Kombat 8?
 
@Ktash Was it proven to be a troll?
 
user15026
@Frank This, again, is not limited to the DS model
 
@Play Yes.
 
@badp and exclusive gear gives unfair advantage. I mean we can agree DLC in general isn't good, but I think maps are still relatively acceptable
 
5:55 PM
@Play Developer said it wasn't him that posted it
 
Mario Kart 8 came with 30 playable characters, 32 levels, and 26 vehicle bodies, I can't say they ripped off the main game to force DLC.
 
@AshleyNunn No, but that's the point. Nintendo's not following the same established model. By going their own way, they're going to create confusion.
 
@Ktash Thank you so much
 
user15026
Do I think unique naming needs to be a thing? Yes. Do I think it is solely a problem with Nintendo? No. Do I think calling this new thing a New 3DS or whatever the hell is going to cause problems? Generally, yes.
 
user15026
@Frank There' no real established model. Hell, xbox went from 360 to ONE.
 
5:56 PM
@Rapitor I don't know; I'd much much much rather have a sidegrade car DLC than a map DLC.
 
@AshleyNunn Playstation went from PS2 to PS3 to PS4
 
You can play with people who own those sidegrades, but you can't if they're playing on a map you don't "own"
 
user15026
@Batophobia One occurence is hardly an established model.
 
@AshleyNunn What, what? We're arguing the same side? Why are we arguing?
 
@Ktash @murgatroid99 So it was! I've been stuck at work, so I haven't been able to poke around much. Just wanted to check!
 
5:57 PM
if changing a single number is ok I think DS is fine
 
@Frank DS uses a different main CPU.
 
Of course if you implement pay-to-win on a $60 game...
 
FAE
@MBraedley Over a dozen now
@Frank AFAIK, just the stupid pin.
 
user15026
@Frank You seemed to be saying that this is solely a Nintendo problem
 
user15026
And I disagree.
 
user15026
5:58 PM
Though I do think they needed to think this one over a bit more.
 
user15026
(And perhaps they might before it hits NA, you never know.)
 
So... what the hell does LL stand for?
 
@AshleyNunn Well, Nintendo's the latest.
 
FAE
Geocaching success! Letterbox logged, got a TB there and left a Harry Potter dvd behind, and grabbed another traditional cache with a TB in it as well.
 
@badp Larger Large?
 
user15026
5:59 PM
@Frank Yes, but it is far from the only thing that is problematic, this is a general problem of console naming.
 
Is it larger or smaller than Xtra Large?
 
user15026
Hell, phones as well...
 
I don't know of any other manufacturer that makes their products look exactly the same externally, keeps the same name, but it is a different system. But plays the same stuff.
 
@Frank iphone?
 
@FAE Hate on multiple levels.
 
user15026
5:59 PM
@Frank A lot of phones?
 
The thing here is: DS, DS Lite, and DSi use the same main processor. 3DS, 2DS, and 3DS XL all use the same main processor. DS and 3DS use different main processors. New 3DS likely uses the same main processor as the 3DS, but differs instead by how many buttons it has.
 

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