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slm

12:08 AM

@FaheemMitha voted

Faheem Mitha

12:29 AM

@slm Thanks.

Faheem Mitha

12:51 AM

@strugee see reopen request above

@trelosae your question now has 4 reopen votes. when it has 5 it will be reopened. So you should be able to add an answer soon.

trelosae

nice, thanks

oh btw

i'm now trying to install the 0.17 version

and when i try to get sources

it returns
root@nibelung:/usr/local/src/mpd# apt-get source mpd=0.17.6-1~bpo70+1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Picking 'mpd-dmo' as source package instead of 'mpd'
E: Ignore unavailable version '0.17.6-1~bpo70+1' of package 'mpd'
E: Unable to find a source package for mpd-dmo

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae I don't get the mpd-dmo thing. why is it there?

apt-cache policy mpd-dmo and also apt-cache policy mpd-dmo please

btw, you really, really don't want to run these command as root if you don't have to. apt-get source should be run as user. if you need to do build-dep etc you can use sudo.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha N: Unable to locate package mpd-dmo

Faheem Mitha

@derobert Where does dpkg-checkbuildeps: come from? It says dpkg-dev, but I have that installed. A more recent version, perhaps?

@trelosae For both commands?

apt-get source mpd=0.17.6-1~bpo70+1
works fine here

trelosae

@FaheemMitha yes, but they are the same

Faheem Mitha

1:01 AM

sorry, the latter should have been apt-cache showsrc mpd-dmo

trelosae

@FaheemMitha W: Unable to locate package mpd-dmo``N: No packages found

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Hmm, strange.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha would downloading the tars from here work? packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/mpd

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae you have the deb-src lines for wheezy backports?

trelosae

@FaheemMitha yes deb-src http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

Faheem Mitha

1:03 AM

@trelosae it would, but you would need all three files, dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff, and also run dpkg-source -x whatever.dsc to unpack.

@trelosae Does apt-cache showsrc mpd give the correct version?

trelosae

@FaheemMitha yep

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae you ran apt-get update too?

trelosae

@FaheemMitha yes

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae ok, yes, you can download from the package page. i suggest wget -c url.

mpd-dmo is a deb-multimedia thing, why does it appear here?

Your sources.list doesn't have anything there, right? Check /etc/apt/sources.list.d. Long shot though.

you could also try apt-cache search mpd-dmo.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha oh there are some lists from openmediavault one of which contains this: deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free

should i comment it out?

Faheem Mitha

1:11 AM

@trelosae Yes, I'd take that out. In fact, that comment out everything not debian.

This is located where?

trelosae

@FaheemMitha /etc/apt/sources.list.d/openmediavault-millers.list

Faheem Mitha

btw, does anyone know a way to make apt print out the sources.list it knows about without grubbing through files?

@trelosae yes, I would comment everything in that file for the moment, you can uncomment it later.

run apt-get update of course

trelosae

@FaheemMitha yep it worked

@FaheemMitha debuild -uc -us
 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: using a gain-root-command while being root
dpkg-buildpackage: export CFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor): -g -O2
dpkg-buildpackage: export CPPFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
dpkg-buildpackage: export CXXFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor): -g -O2
dpkg-buildpackage: export FFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor): -g -O2
dpkg-buildpackage: export LDFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ok, again, I strongly recommend doing the source download and build while not root.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha allright i'll try as another user

Faheem Mitha

1:18 AM

try running apt-get build-dep mpd, or you can just install those manually with apt-get.

@trelosae just try as your regular user.

which directory are you in?

trelosae

@FaheemMitha /usr/local/src/mpd/mpd-0.17.6

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ok, you should add yourself to the staff group, then you will be able to write there.

you need to log out first, possibly, to make it take effect.

@trelosae i'm probably going to go back to sleep soon, so may not seen further messages immediately. but should see chat messages etc. later today, and will answer them.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha alright see ya

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae It is worth mentioning those extra lines in sources.list.d in your answer, when you write one.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha will do

Faheem Mitha

1:22 AM

@trelosae dpkg-dev (>= 1.16.1~) is probably not necessary.

just remove the dependency from the build line in debian/control in the source.

it is possible it is necessary, in which case it will error out.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha what about dh-systemd

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Not sure about that.

you could try backporting it to squeeze. you got the wheezy version to build, right? 1.16?

trelosae

funny thing is there is no package dh-systemd

Faheem Mitha

yes, Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 8.0.0), perl so should be buildable at least

@trelosae apt-cache showsrc dh-systemd

@trelosae how to you mean, no package dh-systemd?

trelosae

oh it doesnt exist for squeeze

Faheem Mitha

1:28 AM

@trelosae right. so you will have to backport it.

it is just a script, so should be easily buildable. the runtime dependencies also don't seem to be a problem.

trelosae

indeed

Faheem Mitha

systemd is itself not in squeeze, do i don't know if that will cause a problem

but you could try it.

trelosae

let's hope so

Faheem Mitha

ok, off now.

derobert

3:43 AM

@FaheemMitha dpkg-checkbuilddeps, it has 2 d s. Definitely not a newer version, I have it on a sarge box. Comes from dpkg-dev.

Did I mess that up on my answer...?

@FaheemMitha yes, you can print the whole sources.list (not in the normal format, though) by just running apt-cache policy

@FaheemMitha lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/09/msg00001.html ... beware those changes when removing that dependency.

@FaheemMitha @trelosae I'd suggest just grabbing the newer dpkg-dev from squeeze-backports packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/dpkg-dev

@FaheemMitha @trelosae I think you can just remove the dependency on dh-systemd, and remove the call in debian/rules. If you look at what it does (see packages.debian.org/sid/dh-systemd)... it's clear you don't need that at all squeeze.

Though if you want, you don't need to backport it—you could just download and install the version from sid. The dependencies should be satisfied (it depends on debhelper and perl, both unversioned).

It may not work, if it wants a perl newer than 5.8 (or was it 5.6?) that's in squeeze

In that case, you'd potentially have to do a lot of work to backport it.

(I would advise against attempting to backport perl. Too central.)

@FaheemMitha (fixed my answer to spell dpkg-checkbuilddeps right)

Faheem Mitha

5:11 AM

@derobert thanks for all the helpful hints.

I don't know if @trelosae will see them. if he doesn't respond, you could add them as a comment to the question.

I don't get the reference to perl. Where is a newer pert required?

derobert

@FaheemMitha If you grab the dh-systemd package from sid, its possible that it actually requires a perl newer than in squeeze

The dependencies don't say so, but you never know...

I think trelosae will see those messages, as I pinged him/her in one of them.

Faheem Mitha

@derobert I see. It does sound like removing the depndency on dh-systemd is best.

derobert

Definitely what I'd attempt first. There is no systemd in squeeze, after all.

Though it's best not to talk about systemd. Might draw profanity-laden death threats.

... at least, it does on debian-devel :-(

Faheem Mitha

@derobert heh. Ok, off to yoga class. take care everyone.

derobert

/me has stuff to get done this weekend, or he'd contemplate switching his machine to systemd.

Faheem Mitha

5:27 AM

@derobert Watch out for those profanity-laden death threats. :-)

Faheem Mitha

7:56 AM

Still need one more reopen vote for

2

Q: Installing mpd 0.17 on debian squeeze

How could I install mpd 0.17 or even 0.16 on debian squeeze? It's been suggested to me that I should use backports, but I did not quite understand what I should do in case of unmet dependencies. For instance, mpd 0.17 exists on wheezy-backports but it depends on libraries that are a greater versi...

anyone?

Faheem Mitha

9:03 AM

@trelosae your question has now been reopened.

My recollection is that there is some utility that will run an install for packages in the build-depends in the control file. I think there was even a question about it here. Does anyone remember?

AsheeshR

1:08 PM

Are there any distros that are almost always in sync with the latest stable kernel?

Faheem Mitha

@AsheeshR Not sure what you mean. You can install any kernel you like on most distributions. If you mean the default kernel, the answer almost by defn is no, unless it is a real moving target, like debian sid.

sid probably has a very recent kernel most of the time.

Braiam

and Arch, right @strugee?

slm

arch yes

Faheem Mitha

apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64

for example

shows 3.13+56 for unstable

@Braiam what about arch?

i guess gentoo probably uses pretty recent kernels too.

slm

5

A: What is the prefered way of updating all software in a Fedora installation?

Before Fedora 17 None of the Red Hat distros prior to Fedora 17 included the ability to do dist-upgrades as you've asked. This had been a long discussed option on many peoples' wish list but had never been implemented. But before we start a clarification... According to the Upgrading topic ...

I talk about the different types of releasing in that QA

rolling vs. release #

Faheem Mitha

1:14 PM

i suggest we vote up @casey's answers. he is quite close to 3000, and then he can do open/close votes.

slm

on it

Faheem Mitha

@Braiam see my question above.

My recollection is that there is some utility that will run an install for packages in the build-depends in the control file. I think there was even a question about it here. Does anyone remember?

this is if you are in a debian source directory.

@slm i think that is probably enough. too much from one person, and they might roll it back

Wow, incoherent much?

0

Q: How to use virtualbox?

I Have Virtual box and I want to make a backup of it!How to use virtual?i have virtual-box and i want to make a backup of it!` How to use virtual?

backup virtualbox

Oh, that's what fedup means. I thought it meant people were fed up of Red Hat. Maybe some kind of mass movement of people wanting to move to Linux Mint.

@slm Your answer does not actually give an example of a rolling release.

@slm don't mean to bug you, but would be interested in learning how RH like distributions build binary kernel packages. We talked about this earlier. I might get around to a formal answer this weekend.

I just wrote an annoyed letter to Debian's ftpmasters about them not replying to me about my rejection from NEW last year. Maybe I'll get banned from Debian...

slm

3:20 PM

@FaheemMitha How do you mean? Do you want me to write up how to build a binary linux kernel pkg on Fedora? It's actually pretty straightforward

@FaheemMitha I thought I included a link to a list of releases and their types

Faheem Mitha

@slm Yes. Unless it is well documented elsewhere, i which case i guess you could post a link.

@slm Ok, I forget the url.

slm

List of Linux distributions

This page provides general information about notable Linux distributions in the form of a categorized list. Distributions are organized into sections by the major distribution they are based on, or the package management system they are based around. Debian-based Debian GNU/Linux is a distribution that emphasizes free software. It supports many hardware platforms. Debian and distributions based on it use the .deb package format and the dpkg package manager and its frontends. {| class="wikitable" |- ! Distribution !! Description |- | 64 Studio | Attempts to specialize in audio and video...

The ones that are rolling say so in the descriptions

They're listed in this link which is my A

Rolling release

In software development, a rolling release or rolling update development model refers to a continually developing software system; this is instead of a standard release development model which uses software versions that must be reinstalled over the previous version. Rolling software, instead, is continually updated, in contrast to standard release software which is upgraded between versions. Rolling release development models are one of many types of software release life cycles and, in terms of software development methodology in general, rolling release development models are less commo...

Faheem Mitha

3:36 PM

@slm Ok, I stand corrected.

trelosae

4:20 PM

@FaheemMitha hey are you there?

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Yes. For the moment. Did you see @derobert's comments?

trelosae

@FaheemMitha yes i wanted to ask about that

what should i remove from debian/rules?

would this be enough: LDFLAGS += -Wl,--as-needed

%:
        dh $@ --with autoreconf
#       dh $@ --with autoreconf --with=systemd

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae probably

is there any other mention of systemd?

trelosae

there is libsystemd-daemon but i have commented it out on the control file

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ok. the rules file is just

LDFLAGS += -Wl,--as-needed
dh $@ --with autoreconf --with=systemd

?

trelosae

4:24 PM

no there is a lot more

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ok. This is the rules file for the wheezy backport?

trelosae

yes

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae one sec. i'll take a look

trelosae

#!/usr/bin/make -f
include /usr/share/dpkg/architecture.mk

WITH_TREMOR=
ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), arm)
WITH_TREMOR=--with-tremor
endif
ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), armel)
WITH_TREMOR=--with-tremor
endif
ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), armeb)
WITH_TREMOR=--with-tremor
endif

ENABLE_FFADO=
ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), amd64)
ENABLE_FFADO=--enable-ffado
endif
ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), armel)
ENABLE_FFADO=--enable-ffado
endif
ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), armhf)
ENABLE_FFADO=--enable-ffado
endif
ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), i386)

that's it

Faheem Mitha

you'll also want to take out $(WITH_SYSTEMD) from

./configure $(WITH_TREMOR) $(WITH_SYSTEMD) $(ENABLE_FFADO) \
            --enable-sqlite \

also, the last line - $(CP_SYSTEMD_UNIT)
should probably go

those three things will probably suffice. give it a try

i'd put the debian directory under version control if you are messing with it

trelosae

4:31 PM

svart@nibelung:/usr/local/src/mpd/mpd-0.17.6$ sudo debuild -uc -us
 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: using a gain-root-command while being root
dpkg-buildpackage: source package mpd
dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.17.6-1~bpo70+1
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Florian Schlichting <fsfs@debian.org>
 dpkg-source --before-build mpd-0.17.6
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
 fakeroot debian/rules clean
dh clean --with autoreconf
   dh_testdir
   dh_auto_clean

Faheem Mitha

delete mpd-0.17.6/config.log

did you create that?

trelosae

nope

Faheem Mitha

hmm. that's not good

what does config.log have?

i can try building it here. one sec

Braiam

remove it and unpack it again... the build directory is dirty...

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae you can just try removing that one file and repeating.

seems to be building here. of course, this is wheezy

trelosae

4:38 PM

@FaheemMitha removing config.log? it failed again

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Error, please

what did you remove from debian/control, if anything?

trelosae

svart@nibelung:/usr/local/src/mpd/mpd-0.17.6$ sudo debuild -uc -us
 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: using a gain-root-command while being root
dpkg-buildpackage: source package mpd
dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.17.6-1~bpo70+1
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Florian Schlichting <fsfs@debian.org>
 dpkg-source --before-build mpd-0.17.6
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
 fakeroot debian/rules clean
dh clean --with autoreconf
   dh_testdir
   dh_auto_clean

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae I don't see a build happening. It skipped direct to the install Something went wrong

@Braiam ?

Here is my diff to rules.

Braiam

his build tree is dirty, is better if he removes everything and unpack everything again

Faheem Mitha

diff -r e157a318213c rules
--- a/rules
+++ b/rules
@@ -41,9 +41,11 @@
LDFLAGS += -Wl,--as-needed

%:
- dh $@ --with autoreconf --with=systemd
+ #dh $@ --with autoreconf --with=systemd
+ dh $@ --with autoreconf

override_dh_auto_configure:
+ #./configure $(WITH_TREMOR) $(WITH_SYSTEMD) $(ENABLE_FFADO) \
./configure $(WITH_TREMOR) $(WITH_SYSTEMD) $(ENABLE_FFADO) \
--enable-sqlite \
--enable-un \
@@ -79,4 +81,4 @@
override_dh_install:
dh_install
cp $(CURDIR)/debian/mpd.tmpfiles $(CURDIR)/debian/mpd/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/mpd.conf

@Braiam fair enough.

trelosae

4:42 PM

should i just do what @Braiam said?

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae yes. just delete the directory you are using. then you can unpack again doing

dpkg-source -x whatever.dsc

whatever being -> mpd_0.17.6-1~bpo70+1.dsc

did you change anything in the control file. i didn't, and it doesn't seem necessary

trelosae

i had commented out the libsystemd-daemon

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ok. me too. in the build depends? actually i removed it entirely.

i recommend you do that. but first put your debian directory under version control

trelosae

how do i do that

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Have you not used version control? hg, git?

trelosae

4:47 PM

barely, i wanted to clone some github repos once

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ok, in that case, never mind. just make a copy of any file before changing it. something like filename.orig would do.

trelosae

alright

alright now in the control file i remove libsystemd-daemon, correct?

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae right. and also dh-systemd (>= 1.4)

trelosae

weird when i edited the control file libsystemd was already commented out

let me re-delete the folder

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Ok, that means that the orig tarball was possibly rebuilt, which you don't want

remove everything and start from scratch

trelosae

4:52 PM

ok

Faheem Mitha

and this time, change the changelog before you proceed

that will prevent overwrites. i forgot to mention that

trelosae

oh yea i forgot about that

Faheem Mitha

do dch -i in the source directory. this will create a new changelog entry for you, which you can modify

actually, it was probably the diff that got overwritten.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha okey i have removed libsystemd-daemon and dh-systemd from control and the three lines from the rules. anything else?

Faheem Mitha

5:09 PM

@trelosae you mean you changed the lines, not removed them, right?

what is diff -u rules.orig rules ?

trelosae

44c44
<       dh $@ --with autoreconf --with=systemd
---
>       dh $@ --with autoreconf
47c47
<       ./configure $(WITH_TREMOR) $(WITH_SYSTEMD) $(ENABLE_FFADO) \
---
>       ./configure $(WITH_TREMOR) $(ENABLE_FFADO) \
82c82
<       $(CP_SYSTEMD_UNIT)
---
>

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae yes, that looks ok. but that looks like the output from diff rather than diff -u.

did you add an entry to the changelog?

trelosae

yes i did

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae ok, then. i guess you are good to go.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha seems to be compiling

Faheem Mitha

5:15 PM

@trelosae good

trelosae

svart@nibelung:/usr/local/src/mpd$ sudo dpkg -i mpd_0.17.6-1~bpo70+2.local_amd64.deb
(Reading database ... 60636 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace mpd 0.17.6-1~bpo70+2.local (using mpd_0.17.6-1~bpo70+2.local_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mpd ...
Setting up mpd (0.17.6-1~bpo70+2.local) ...
Starting Music Player Daemon: mpdmkdir: cannot create directory `/run/mpd': No such file or directory
chown: cannot access `/run/mpd': No such file or directory
Failed to bind to '127.0.0.1:6600': Address already in use

i have removed the previous mpd and redid that but the output is the same

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae hmm, looks like it is trying to do some systemd like thing.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha now what?

Faheem Mitha

actually, that is just a guess. i don't know a thing about systemd, but it seems at least plausible

@trelosae not sure. one sec

Looks like the problem may be mpd.init.d

I dunno. If i knew something about systemd i might be of more help

@Braiam any ideas?

trelosae

mpd seems to be installed though

Faheem Mitha

5:25 PM

@trelosae not properly, probably

what does

dpkg -l mpd give?

Your problem is probably:

Starting Music Player Daemon: mpdmkdir: cannot create directory `/run/mpd': No such file or directory

trelosae

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Description
+++-===================-===================-======================================================
iF mpd 0.17.6-1~bpo70+2.lo Music Player Daemon

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Right, the second flag should be i. so

ii ...

instead you have iF.

which means unpacked i think

Braiam

@trelosae remove it and install it again...

Faheem Mitha

See man dpkg-query

@Braiam What good will that do?

Braiam

btw, why you don't have /run/mpd?

Faheem Mitha

5:27 PM

@Braiam presumably some systemd thing?

trelosae

if that's for the pid it was previously in /var/run/mpd

Faheem Mitha

i don't have run anything in the deb i built here.

Braiam

nah, is not configured, so remove it or run sudo dpkg --configure -a

Faheem Mitha

@Braiam but it errored out.

with that run error.

Braiam

@FaheemMitha because isn't configured...

Faheem Mitha

5:29 PM

@Braiam Well, it didn't get configured because it errored out. :-)

trelosae

svart@nibelung:/usr/local/src/mpd$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
Setting up mpd (0.17.6-1~bpo70+2.local) ...
Starting Music Player Daemon: mpdmkdir: cannot create directory `/run/mpd': No such file or directory
chown: cannot access `/run/mpd': No such file or directory
Failed to bind to '127.0.0.1:6600': Address already in use
no message buffer overruns
 failed!
invoke-rc.d: initscript mpd, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing mpd (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae anyway, give what he says a try. i don't have better ideas.

right, same error as before. that is what i would expect

Braiam

wait...

> mpdmkdir: cannot create directory

why?

trelosae

well there is no /run dir

Faheem Mitha

@Braiam yes. is that some systemd thing?

Braiam

5:31 PM

... I see a slight problem then...

Faheem Mitha

I have a /run directory here.

trelosae

if i symlinked /run to /var/run?

Faheem Mitha

on wheezy.

and apparently i have systemd installed as well, at least libsystemd-daemon0

Braiam

@trelosae is /var/run a tmpfs?

trelosae

how can i check that?

Braiam

5:33 PM

mount | grep run

trelosae

it didn't return anything

Faheem Mitha

it should look something like

tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=1637004k,mode=755)

@trelosae what is your mount output?

trelosae

/dev/sde2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/mapper/datavg-datalv on /media/1f8cf4f2-1590-48e6-b82c-46f70de24cc7 type ext4 (rw,noexec,_netdev,acl,user_xattr,usrjquota=aquota.user,grpjquota=aquota.group,jqfmt=vfsv0)

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae your fallback option is to attempt a backport of systemd and build and install mpd without removing the systemd stuff. whether it will work, i dunno.

trelosae

@FaheemMitha that seems really messy

Faheem Mitha

5:40 PM

@trelosae yeah, it might be

ok, another possibility is to try using the mpd.init.d from the earlier wheezy package

that does use /var/run/mpd etc

trelosae

that would go in /etc/init.d/ correct?

Faheem Mitha

also the mpd.postinst

trelosae

and then i would run dkpg --configure -a?

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae No, it is in the debian directory. you would need to rebuild the deb

and then reinstall.

trelosae

oh

Faheem Mitha

5:44 PM

like i said, i'd replace the mpd.postinst also

trelosae

well, i'll give it a try

Faheem Mitha

unfortunately, there are no guarantees in this business, unless you are an expert, which i'm not

@Braiam what do you think?

@slm any opinion?

so to summarize, replace mpd.init.d and mpd.postinst in the debian directory with the ones from 0.16.7,

make a backup of the original files first. then rerun the build

Braiam

run is created by base-files and initscripts

Faheem Mitha

@Braiam but it is not present on his squeeze machine

it is not a systemd thing?

trelosae

wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory

Faheem Mitha

5:52 PM

@trelosae actually, another approach that would probably work here, is, since (amazingly) the Debian packaging has not applied any patches, would be do simply use the 0.17 tarball with the 0.16 packaging. this would probably work, with a little tweaking.

Braiam

nope

Faheem Mitha

in these cases, the patches are usually the main problem

Braiam

@trelosae just make the symlinks ;)

sudo ln -s /run /var/run && sudo ln -s /run/lock /var/lock

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae bad news. :-) the mpd.conf also uses /run.

trelosae

i made the symlinks and now dpkg --configure -a gave me this:

svart@nibelung:/usr/local/src/mpd/mpd-0.17.6$ sudo dpkg --configure -a                                Setting up mpd (0.17.6-1~bpo70+2.local) ...
Stopping Music Player Daemon: mpd.
Starting Music Player Daemon: mpdFailed to open sqlite database '/var/lib/mpd/sticker.sql': unable to open database file
no message buffer overruns
 failed!
invoke-rc.d: initscript mpd, action "restart" failed.
dpkg: error processing mpd (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

Braiam

6:02 PM

those the directory exist?

trelosae

/var/lib/mpd exists but there is no sql file

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Hmm. let me try installing the backports mpd

yes, there is a sticker.sql created

Looks like this should get built by src/sticker.c, but it is not happening here for some reason.

src/sticker.c: ret = sqlite3_exec(sticker_db, sticker_sql_create, NULL, NULL, NULL);

Braiam

do you have the sqlite3 libraries?

Faheem Mitha

@Braiam who, me?

trelosae

no i don't

Faheem Mitha

6:11 PM

@Braiam It is not listed as a dependency though

no, i take that back

trelosae

nvm libsqlite3-0 is installed it was in the dependencies

Faheem Mitha

yeah, not sure what the problem is here, sorry.

i'm sure this is fixable, but you could spend more time on it. as i said earlier, the further away you get, the harder the backport. i never try more than across one release.

trelosae

maybe i'll try with the mpd.init.d and mpd.postinst from 0.16

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae The mpd.conf would probably also need to be replaced. if you look at it, it mentions /run.

looks like the maintainers have done quite a lot of work between 0.16 and 0.17. lots of changes

trelosae

well /run is symlinked to /var/run now but i'll replace that as well

Faheem Mitha

6:23 PM

@trelosae ok, then maybe you can leave it.

i'm not really sure on the best approach, sorry.

it looks like even if you installed systemd it wouldn't make any difference, like @Braiam said, the /run change doesn't really have anything to do with systemd.

probably if i was to pursue it further i'd start with the 0.16 packaging and the 0.17 tarball and tweak things as necessary. mpd probably hasn't changed much between 0.16 and 0.17.

but that could still involve a bit of work.

trelosae

you mean the orig tarball from 0.17 and the debian tar from 0.16?

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae correct.

trelosae

i would rename the 0.16 debian tar to be the same name with the 0.17 deb tar and then dpkg-source -x, correct?

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae you'd have to adjust the dsc file first. then try to unpack. one sec, let me see

yes, you could use the 0.17 dsc, but you'd have to replace the checksums for those of the 0.16 diff.gz.

then it would probably work

Anthony

6:39 PM

Hello all.

I'm having really bad installation problems- I don't know what to do next.

I've been bouncing between installing windows 7 and ubuntu, and now the windows installation only says I have 465 harddrive space- the ubuntu one says I have 500 but it won't install properly, and also sometimes says there are existing GPT partitions.

I'm currently loaded into system rescue cd... but I don't know what to do

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae unfortunately, it doesn't look that easy to apply the diff.

The source format changed between the 0.16 and 0.17 packages

ppr

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drivers keyboard-shortcuts

trelosae

@FaheemMitha what else could I try

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae replacing those three files in the debian directory as we discussed earlier is worth a shot probably. hard to say what problems you'll run into.

trelosae

6:54 PM

okay i'll give it a shot now

Faheem Mitha

it should at least build, since those files are not involved in the build process. the problem with the sql file i don't really know. if you really want to spend more time on it (which I don't recommend) i'd probably talk to the debian devs of the package, and/or the upstream devs

but you are talking a fair amount more effort. do you really need 0.17?

trelosae

i could realy use 0.17. i am really tempted to switch to vanilla debian wheezy at this point

Faheem Mitha

@trelosae Oh. what is stopping you? the proprietary package you have installed?

trelosae

welll it ships as a distro actually and from what i've seen it isn't that easy to upgrade to wheezy

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