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posted on December 21, 2013 by sgdi

Several young, truculent otters Had become rambunctious squatters They sat down waited They anticipated They’d soon be thrown back in the water

@RegDwigнt I managed to get Chuck's hat even before asking how to do it :)
Exactly 300 behind Web Apps.
@Artemix hey cool!
You still don't have any hats from ELU, though.
Perhaps you need to synchronize your accounts or something.
I am really at a loss right now.
Also, I am really wasted right now.
So I shouldn't really be posting.
@RegDwigнt Yeah, I edited that meta post without being logged in.
@Artemix ah. A bummer.
Don't drink and chat!
I'll be back lator. Latre. Latoer.
@RegDwigнt - Still no "Before it was cool" hat...
5:11 PM
I have someone trying to defend using "geriatric" to mean the opposite of "curing old people".
"If people use it that way, it can't be wrong."
Morning @Cerberus. Hmmm...
Hmm indeed!
I say morning, it is 17:12 here.
18:12 here.
So it was an ironic good morning...
5:13 PM
Yeah, how can it be good when I am forced into the defensive against illiterate language!
sighs and grumbles
How are your hats coming along?
You wish you had more heads to display them, eh?
I have 35, as does @RegDwigнt. #1 has 39.
Some moron on SO answered my tumbleweed question which riled me no end.
So you needed in unanswered in order to get your hat?
Can anyone help me with my question, please? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/12777223#12777223
Unanswered, un-commented, low views.
You should have made sure the question was absolutely chock full with obscure technical terms and have a very off-putting title...
5:19 PM
I did tag it with visual sourcesafe 6
@M.Jarocki "A name for prank/fake/joke packages".
I need to try again with something really vague.
Sounds obscure to me...but what do I know?
You could ask about a boring little fact that you can only know if you happen to use a certain language/product?
It was a low-rep user who answered to, and practically link-only!
@JasperLoy Yes it does look crazy here, i've popped in from time to tome and never seemed to understand anything of what's going on
5:20 PM
Such as, "do the comments count towards the word count in [obscure IDE]?"
@Laure Bonjour!
Yeah that sounds like the way forward. Or I could post something in our meta saying "don't look, don't vote, don't comment, "don't answer". But you just know everyone will be all over that.,,
and seems you're all hat hunting these days, hatomiac, would that be a word ?
Notre chambre est comme ça, incomprehensible.
@Laure At least you learnt to click on the arrow to reply, many people dunno how to do that. Well, the conversation is pretty random
@Laure -maniac?
But not I.
5:22 PM
@Cerberus Do packages mean "real packages" here? Or packages in computing?
@Ste Yeah that's not going to work...
@M.Jarocki Not sure, maybe both?
Does it make sense in context to have a fake package in computing?
@JasperLoy I'm sort of literate, you know, not as if it were a first time
@JasperLoy Only if they aren't active in other rooms either...
5:25 PM
@JasperLoy We've got a chat room on fr.stackexchange (not sure how we're calling it these dayss what with they're changing names. If you care to visit.... but it's usually empty, chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/1098/chez-cosette
Maybe we'd prefer berets to hats, we'll tell them for next year's winterrbash
@Laure Thank you, but I don't know anyone there. =)
@Laure Tricorns!
@Cerberus Why not..
@Ste yes, hatolics !
@Cerberus so you're not hunting for hats.
@Cerberus On fr. we're quite serious usually. Work. But we're not in a festive mood at the moment.
Anyway i was told to come here to get a cat hat, they do look great!
@Laure Oh...did anything happen?
We are very pro-hatting here. Which hats do you need?
5:31 PM
@Cerberus not yet
@Ste i want a cat hat
I have given you your cat hat now. :)
> “Their mother, imagining the worst, flew to the crime scene in horror.”
There is no poetry in that phrase, nor licence thereof.
Q: Meaning of "It flaming spread" in a Tolkien poem

Julien CuminTolkien wrote a poem called “Over the misty mountains cold”, which is featured as a song in the first Hobbit movie. In this poem there are those verses that made me scratch my head: The pines were roaring on the height, The wind was moaning in the night. The fire was red, it flaming sprea...

@Laure You haven't put on your cat hat yet!
@tchrist Haven't got one
5:42 PM
@Laure Haven’t got one what, a licence?
@Cerberus Maybe a funny generic name for packages, but I really don't know.
Oh, yes i do now, just seen it.
@M.Jarocki But "gag" indicates that it has to be a joke package.
Hat ahoy!
@Artemix - Are you on a hat-hunt? We here at EL&U are very generous with out head-attire!
5:56 PM
@Ste I liked the word "head-attire"!
Two hats for the price of one. Get "Oh the Horror" and "Marauder" here! Star this message so everybody knows!
@TimTimmy - Do you need hats? We can help!
@Ste Yes please! :)
@Cerberus OK, this will do. Thanks!
@Ste Gracias
Did I spell that correctly?
@TimTimmy - Stand by - you are about to receive your Chatty Cat hat!
You did but that's Spanish not English! :o)
6:00 PM
@Ste no hats yet :( ....
@TimTimmy - The hat job runs every 5 mins or so, I think. You will be awarded it shortly.
@ste are you a hat salesman :-)
@TimTimmy Have you voted on anything on this site yet? You may need to do that before the hat comes through.
@Ste Thanks loads, I'm still waiting...
@badass - I ain't selling, I'm giving!
6:07 PM
@Ste Umm... No
@badass There you are
@TimTimmy - Go to this question and upvote it: english.stackexchange.com/questions/142855/…
@Ste I have only got 1 reputation on this site so I can't upvote yet :(
Uhh... Complicated English :(
@Cerberus Hmmm Hmmm!
@TimTimmy Go here and add an answer :meta.english.stackexchange.com/questions/4356/… I will up vote it and you will soon have voting ability.
6:11 PM
@Ste You must have at least 5 reputation on English Language & Usage Stack Exchange to answer a question. :(
@TimTimmy ?? That makes no sense. How do you get point then?
@Mitch You must have at least 5 reputation on English Language & Usage Stack Exchange to ask a question.
Ahh - you'll need to ask or answer on the main site first.
@Mitch I pointed Tim to meta.
@TimTimmy Is it ask or is it answer?
6:12 PM
@Mitch Both :)
Then do it! (easier to answer)
Just get one up vote and you're set.
well, you'll want a little more to be able to comment.
So you're just a chat lurker?
@Mitch Kind of... I go on the other exchange sites.
If you're on the other exchange sites how come you haven't got 101 rep here?
Q: How can we tell that the Milky Way is a spiral galaxy?

Devgeet PatelFrom Earth, we can distinguish the type of another galaxy very easily simply by observing the shape, colour, and structure of the galaxy when we image it. But since we are located inside the Milky Way, we cannot get an "outside view". Thus, how can we tell if we are located in either a spiral or ...

@Ste you need 200 reps in one account to get the association bonus
6:17 PM
Who knew? Well, that guy did.
It turns out that I know very little!
@MattЭллен Quit trying to bring facts into the argument. Wait, this isn't an argument, is it?
@Mitch I'm not arguing with you!
I need to search other chat rooms to find out how to get Eureka
Surely someone has spilled the beans on another site..
@MattЭллен You should be.
6:19 PM
@Mitch I don't think so. Why would I want to do that?
@Ste good idea. I hope someone has
Keeps your mind sharp. Staves off Alzheimer's. Makes you better at crossword puzzles. Things like that. And maybe some other things too.
@Mitch arguing with you has not made me better at crossword puzzles. I'm just as bad as I ever was.
@MattЭллен Okay I'm off to some other chat rooms. Can I get an upvote on this please: I'm going for "Before it was Cool" hat: english.stackexchange.com/questions/142855/…
good luck
I just tried sports but they were talking about actual hats...
6:25 PM
@Ste Thanks a lot!! It worked :)
Cat maniac
Bigger avatar!
Come on!
COme on
@TimTimmy no problems!
@MattЭллен Prove it. I don't think you've tried a crossword puzzle since we started arguing.
@Mitch I just looked at this one and I can do one clue. This is one fewer than normal.
I think you're making things worse!
6:50 PM
This message needs more stars for visibility: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/12777530#12777530
I've given mine
I've just done the rounds around the other chat rooms and it seems people are tight-lipped about the secret hats. I need a mod to approve my tag wiki edit to see if that triggers the "Before it was Cool" hat.
7:13 PM
Nope - that didn't do it either... Aargh!
Where is @RegDwigнt? I need my "Before it was cool" hat!
7:31 PM
Let's get EL&U more Hi ho Silver hats
@reg I didn't know the pointy haired boss was real.
7:42 PM
@MετάEd well. Thanks to me you know now! thanks self
@Ste where do I come in in that endeavour?
@MattЭллен something something measurement rum.
close enough
That should keep y'all occupied for another hour.
8:38 PM
Hi, question: how would you say more correctly?
a disguised phone: something looking like a phone, in order to trap people
the term disguised seems not appropriate (for a person rather)
lure is close, but it's for hunting.. different context
lure isn't exclusive to hunting, that's just where it origninates
9:01 PM
so you could say of someone throwing a tennis ball, that he is throwing a grenade lure?
(when it's actually a grenade camoufled in tennis ball)
!!define lure
@MattЭллен lure Something that tempts or attracts, especially one with a promise of reward or pleasure.
@ctrl maybe
if people find tennis balls alluring
I would say if you made it look like it was made of gold
perhaps I have expensive taste :D
lure is also (and I would say more often) a verb
@ctrl you could call it a trick phone.
if the phone does something bad when they use it, call it "a booby-trapped phone"
^ better example, how would you call that phones?
that's a "trick phone" or "pretend phone" or "cookie phone"
(the last one is specific to that example)
9:15 PM
ok, when there is no harm, or danger
I suppose you could also call it a "trick cookie" because it's a cookie that tricks you into thinking it's a phone
@ctrl yes
@Ste sorry, but no: there are no hats on meta, so you can't get Marauder that way
You could do this on Meta Stack Overflow
@Gilles "oh the horror", though, can only be got that way
@MattЭллен yes, but you get it on the main site, for something that happens on meta
9:20 PM
!!define attire
@ctrl attire One's dress; what one wears; one's clothes.
is that a wiktionary bot?
!!define is
@Gilles is third-person singular simple present indicative form of be
!!define abbesse
@Gilles abbesse abbess (female abbot)
9:25 PM
!!define wertyu
@Gilles My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
!!define ..
@Gilles it's a bot, and it does query wiktionary, but it does other stuff too!
!!wiki wiktionary
Wiktionary (a blend of the words wiki and dictionary) is a multilingual, web-based project to create a free content dictionary of . It is available in 158 languages and in Simple English. Like its sister project Wikipedia, Wiktionary is run by the Wikimedia Foundation, and is written collaboratively by volunteers, dubbed "Wiktionarians". Its wiki software allows almost anyone with access to the website to create and edit entries. Because Wiktionary is not limited by print space considerations, most of Wiktionary's language editions provide definitions and translations of words from man...
!!tell Gilles listCommands
9:26 PM
@Gilles help, listen, eval, coffee, live, die, refresh, forget, ban, unban, info, jquery, choose, user, lego, legopart, nuke, nsa, nano, wordwar, listcommands, parentuser, norris, urban, parse, tell, mdn, afk, awsm, color, convert, define, findcommand, fuckable, get, github, google, hang, inhistory, learn, mustache, nudge, spec, stat, summon, unsummon, timer, todo, undo, weather, welcome, wiki, xkcd, youtube (page 0/0)
@Ste No, I can approve it.
However, it’s not in the edit list, so maybe that’s happened already.
Or was it on another site?
You got the badge, so I presume it’s been approved.
20k users don’t need mod approval to edit wikis or approve others’ edits. Or maybe it’s a 15k priv. I forget.
Anybody not upvoted Mr Weasel yet?
I’ll never get a gold approving edits.
But the typography is cool.
Should have had a font with the insular forms of the uncial stuff. Really surprising to people unaccustomed to such.
A: What animal is a “weefil”?

tchristf  vs  ſ That’s merely a “long s”, not an f. Therefore, it is not a weefil but rather a weeſil — meaning of course, a weasel. We can rule out weevil because it has the look not of a bug but of a musteline critter. Here are some examples in various faces — namely, in roman, italic, scrip...

!!wiki weefil
@ctrl No result found
Nov 10 '12 at 20:18, by tchrist
        * lowercase is 1D79
@ctrl I suspect wie viel is German, and not intended.
People sure are flag-happy these days, eh @KitSox?
10:12 PM
296 behind Web Apps.
10:31 PM
Someone please star my two latest messages in the Russian chat:

 Russian Language and Usage

Main Chat Room for Russian Language and Usage
Thanks a bunch!
@MattЭллен how do you know you got it right?
@Mitch thank you! Now this is interesting. I still got "Winter Is Coming".
In that case, please also star any of my last three messages in the French chat:

 Chez Cosette

Discussion pour french.stackexchange.com. Bienvenue à tous ! Y...
That is actually for science. Because I am starred there already, yet haven't got the hat!
@Mitch What is right? What is wrong? Is the universe morally opposed to crosswords?
@RegDwigнt done
now prepare to be suspended and have all your hats removed
@ColeJohnson you could, but then we would suspend you and take away all of your hats. (You're probably joking, but if we catch anyone gaming the system just to earn a hat, that's what will happen.) — Laura 22 hours ago
10:39 PM
@MattЭллен That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.
@Gilles thank you. So I have now determined the following: it does not matter when the star is cast. It only matters when the message was posted.
That means you can award some warm hats retroactively.
@Gilles haha.
Everyone's hats will get removed! Very soon!
Suspended over a silly hat game???
A: "Oh The Horror" & "Marauder" Hat Club

RegDwigнtI don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member!

@badass that they introduced in the first place, yes
10:46 PM
And just to drive the point home, I've converted that to a comment.
@Gilles ugh. Typos all over the place (not to mention the awful "his/her"), and I am not allowed to fix it!
@Laura You're really going to suspend the hundreds of people who've been asking a mediocre-but-socially-acceptable question just to get a hat, who've upvoted each others' comments and meta answers and starred chat messages just to get a hat, who made retags with bogus new tags just to get a hat, who've given out bounties just to get a hat, etc.? — Gilles 1 hour ago
yesterday, by RegDwigнt
@MrHen oh and yeah. They'd only block out their most active contributors.
I'm half-tempted to start a thread like @Ste's on Meta Stack Overflow, as a deliberate challenge
@badass Hi
but it's a bit weak because I wouldn't be exposing myself
10:52 PM
@Gilles now that would be playing with fire I guess...
These kinds of threats not only piss people off but are a lump of coal in the network's stocking
@badass how are you?
Anyway. I got but two hours worth of sleep last night, so I'm logging off extra early today.
Have fun!
Night all.
@badass can i ask my questions now or later?
10:55 PM
@RegDwigнt g.night
@Icegirl Hi now
@badass It's late for me. here the time is 2:30 pm i'm really sleepy
That is in the afternoon
can i ask later?
11:01 PM
@badass Thanks a lot. I'm really sorry. Goodbye my friend. I'm waiting for you but you weren't anywhere
@icegirl later
!!wiki threat
A threat is an act of coercion wherein an act is proposed to elicit a negative response. It is a communicated intent to inflict harm or loss on another person. It can be a crime in many jurisdictions. Threat (intimidation) is widely seen in animals, particularly in a ritualized form, chiefly in order to avoid the unnecessary physical violence that can lead to physical damage or death of both conflicting parties. Brazil In Brazil, the crime of threatening someone, defined as a threat to cause unjust and grave harm, is punishable by a fine or three months to one year in prison, as descr...
@RegDwigнt done. did that work? There was one of those three already starred, I starred the last one.
!!wiki cyberbullying
:For the Wikipedia guidance essay, see . Cyberbullying is the use of Information Technology to harm or harass other people in a deliberate, repeated, and hostile manner. According to U.S. Legal Definitions, Cyber-bullying could be limited to posting rumors or gossips about a person in the internet bringing about hatred in other’s minds; or it may go to the extent of personally identifying victims and publishing materials severely defaming and humiliating them. With the increase in use of these technologies Cyberbullying has become increasingly common, especially among teenagers. Awar...
11:15 PM
34 mins ago, by RegDwigнt
@Gilles thank you. So I have now determined the following: it does not matter when the star is cast. It only matters when the message was posted.
!!Youtube bully bully
@MattЭллен one letter out of place, the whole thing will fall apart. I find it particularly annoying when they makeup words to fit.
@Mitch A_R_A_T I can't think of a single word that fits that pattern
@MattЭллен my word list says there's one common and one obscure word
11:19 PM
it's not the obsucre word.
what's the common one?
what's the clue?
It's a farm on the slopes of a mountain.
"side by side" or "in the picture"
11:21 PM
@MattЭллен hmmm
oooh I know I know.
I see the meaning, but not the wordplay
@Mitch what? what?
What "What? What?"?
this can't possibly be a cryptic crossword. “Mill”?
11:25 PM
no, it's not cryptic
But you still don't know it.
I think I pointed out a while ago that I'm not good at crosswords
@MattЭллен That’s because you’re too sweet to be cross.
11:28 PM
abreast! ok. finally
11:44 PM
Nice work
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