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12:00 AM
The academy is being reprogrammed from the inside-out, to generate expert knowledge that works against culture -- on behalf of capital, the state.
 
Against?
Why not just unrelated to culture?
And why do you still call it "the academy" when it has just become an empty hull?
 
It's pretty obvious (to my mind, anyway) that the aims of culture are distinct from those of capital, the state, etc.
Well, because it's still the hegemonic general system of knowledge.
 
Distinct, but not contrary.
 
(Insofar as the rapidly-inflating datasphere hasn't already displaced it.)
 
I don't know.
 
12:02 AM
Well, who does?
 
Plato?
He founded it, after all.
 
It had it's neuroses and Oedipus complexes too...
All I'm really saying is that increasingly higher education is undergoing a transformation -- turning into an extended support system for a global security apparatus
 
The proportion of office-drones who go through the diploma-mills has increased, but the proportion of people getting an actual education has not.
 
It's really "what kind" of education that I'm getting at, not so much the aggregate quality of the institutions.
The sort of problems, the way they're framed, etc. Increasingly imposed by outside organizations -- the state or multinationals.
(Co-optation of the academy as expert knowledge prosthetic for integrated world capitalism and the security state.)
 
Look at what it takes to get a compsci degree now. It’s ridiculous how industry drive things.
 
12:09 AM
@JosephWeissman Yeah, I agree. We have talked about this.
 
We have tech school for that. Leave the universities alone.
 
As to the security state, I don't know.
@tchrist Agreed. Most sciences were never academic anyway.
Only the theoretical bits, which were part of philosophy.
 
I’m not sure I’d classify algorithmic research as a branch of philosophy.
 
It used to be.
 
thinks
There were some odd cross-listings. I no longer remember how it all shook out.
 
12:12 AM
It's part of the 'transdisciplinary' mixture of approaches that make up computational research today.
AI in particular tends to drag in philosophy in various interesting ways.
I am even tempted to classify software engineering as being properly a human science.
 
You mean a social science?
Ten more Enlighteneds. I feel so gifted. :)
 
 
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1:31 AM
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Q: He _____ his ego

ertellaWhen talking about not letting one's 'ego' prevent oneself from helping his enemies: He __ his ego and helped his enemies. Would "swallow", "hide", "put down", "lay down" work there?

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Q: Pattern: It is X that Y

ertellaI might be confused about the "it is X that Y " pattern: 1a That he is not the best player is a surprise. 1b It is a surprise that he is not the best player. 2a That he is not the best player is a possibility. 2b It is a possibility that he is not the best player. Sentence 1b ...

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Q: On His Post, At His Post

ertellaI have this: link On 21-22 April 1914, while leading three picket launches admist heavy enemy fire, McCloy was wounded but remained on his post, enabling cruisers to save American lives. For his gallant heroism, he was awarded his second Medal of Honor. For heroism in leading 3 pic...

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Q: Assemble, Convene A Conference

ertellaIs the verb 'assemble' sloppily used as 'convene' here: link 1 "Mr. Husseini was speaking at a hastily assembled news conference in the mainly Palestinian Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem, after the closing of the media center in the nearby Ambassador Hotel. " link 2 "...

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Q: To Lay A Hit, Blow

ertellaIs 'to lay a hit/blow on' someone (as in cheap shot) a slang expression?

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Q: He Did Come Home?

ertellaIs this: 1 He did come home late yesterday. a sloppy variation of: 2 He came home late yesterday. because of poor editing under adverse writing conditions? Could the writer have originally intended to write: He came home late yesterday. but accidentally wrote: He...

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Q: A Letter To / For Jason

ertellaSuppose Jason were at home and a postman/mailman came to his front door with a letter addressed to Jason. Should I write: It was a letter for Jason. or: It was a letter to Jason.

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ertellaIf Craig wrote a question on an online forum and the question was intended for Larry: Craig posted a question to Larry. Should the part "to Larry" modify "a question", or "posted"? In another word, should sentence 1 be interpreted with "a question to Larry" acting as a single unit:...

He learnt to hit us during the weekends.
 
 
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2:39 AM
Hm, the presumed sockpuppet was deleted, not merged. At least there will be no more of those.
 
 
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4:02 AM
Anyone understand what he's saying here? says, "________ zapper"
 
4:14 AM
@its_me bug zapper
 
ah! didn't strike me. thought "bum" zapper :D Thanks!
 
you're welcome!
howdy @Mahnax
 
JC that was frightening.
My volume was turned up loud and my headphones are in. Oh dear.
Hello.
 
omg! I'm sorry :x
 
Haha, no, don't apologize. It's my fault.
I should not have left the volume up so high.
 
4:19 AM
:<
the power went out at the superbowl
 
I know.
 
OIC
good thing it didn't go pitch black in there
 
Seems like Gryffindor might be better at Quidditch, but Ravenclaw won the Super Bowl, so you know.
 
scree-aw!
 
Eh?
 
4:21 AM
that was supposed to be a ravenly noise
 
Oh, haha.
It was Ravens against red and gold, I couldn't help myself.
 
did you work this morning?
 
I did!
 
I agree.
Evaded church once more.
 
4:22 AM
foosh
 
@cornbreadninja ?
Oh.
I am just not getting things tonight. OK.
 
I mean evasion noise.
I've had some wine.
time for bed anyway
 
OK. Sleep well!
 
you too!
 
Danke!
 
user19161
5:07 AM
@Mahnax Well, you don't have to evade, you can just tell them you don't wanna go.
 
@JasonBourne snorts
Hello, by the way.
How do you do?
 
user19161
Oh well, today is a sad day. A Maria just told me there is no hope for us, so end of story.
 
Oh, I am sorry to hear that.
 
user19161
Time for yet another Maria then.
 
Perhaps.
Perhaps it is better to wait a little while. Who knows? I don't.
 
user19161
5:10 AM
Oh well, I just listened to JB. Wow he has changed so much.
 
user19161
I'm not really his fan anymore.
 
What changed about him?
 
user19161
Well, his voice of course LOL
 
user19161
And also his image and everything.
 
user19161
Not really my type of singer anymore.
 
5:12 AM
I see.
 
user19161
Of course, I will always be a MC fan LOL
 
Hopefully you can find another singer to admire.
Might I suggest One Direction?
 
user19161
Is that a group?
 
It's not just one person, but maybe you will like them.
Yes, a group.
 
user19161
Hmm I will look it up.
 
user19161
5:13 AM
Mariah Carey is the only pop singer I am crazy about.
 
I am not really a fan, but many people are.
 
user19161
What happens when shit hits the fan?
 
A mess, I'd imagine.
I'll leave the experiments to other people, though.
 
user19161
HAHAHA, yeah you get shit all over the place.
 
I see.
Is this relevant at present?
Have you been flinging poo?
 
user19161
5:16 AM
No
 
user19161
I wonder what poo tastes like.
 
user19161
Hmm, maybe it's time to try...
 
I'm granting myself a temporary veto power, and telling you NO.
Just in case you were serious.
 
user19161
Anyway, shit is pretty toxic, don't eat it.
 
user19161
But if you are stuck on a boat and don't have water to drink, you may drink your urine.
 
5:19 AM
I will treasure your words of wisdom.
 
user19161
Well, I don't know, but that's what someone did to survive.
 
So I've heard.
 
user19161
She waited days for the rescue to come, and she drank her urine.
 
Lovely.
 
user19161
As lovely as your hair, HAHAHAHA
 
5:21 AM
My hair is very soft.
Soft, thick, and blond.
Just like my avatar, haha!
 
user19161
HAHA, next thing you know, someone says...
 
user19161
No flirting in this chat!
 
I have a policy of not flirting with men who are twice my age on the internet.
 
user19161
Anyway how is school?
 
It's going well. I've just started a new semester, I think I will enjoy this semester much more than the last one.
 
user19161
5:25 AM
In Soviet Russia, semester starts you!
 
user19161
@Mahnax You should sleep early M, bye!
 
Well, if you're leaving, then goodbye.
I'm not going to bed just yet.
 
user19161
Oh, a few more hours?
 
Maybe one hour.
 
user19161
I thought kids your age should sleep earlier...
 
5:30 AM
I sleep when I sleep, I suppose.
At present, I'd rather listen to Les Mis songs and read HP:MoR and chat here than sleep.
 
Hola!
 
Hiya!
I just want to say thank-you to anyone who has talked about HP:MoR here in the past because it is so effing good.
 
How was your Super Bowl Sunday?
 
It was fairly good, I suppose.
1 hour ago, by Mahnax
Seems like Gryffindor might be better at Quidditch, but Ravenclaw won the Super Bowl, so you know.
 
it is, isn't it (HP:MOR)
I just finally caught up and now I'm anxious for more again.
 
5:40 AM
How often do new chapters get released?
 
Not often enough.
 
I can't imagine Mr. Yudkowsky having too much time for writing it.
Hehe.
I'm on chapter 48.
Plus I read 200 pages of American Gods today.
 
so many more good parts to go!
 
Indeed!
Someday I hope it will be printed into an actual book so I can own a physical copy, somehow.
 
Apologies for not keeping up with the typing. I put y'all in the phone while I am ostensibly cleaning the kitchen.
 
5:42 AM
It's unlikely, what with copyright and such, but one can dream.
 
Yeah, that would be cool.
 
My friend's father was angry with her for reading HP:MoR for the sole reason that it is fanfiction.
 
I went to a new set of board-gaming friends' house for a party where football was on in the background, so that made for a pretty nice evening. You had to watch the game with family?
Haha.
They would hate me.
 
Yes, I was "watching" whilst reading American Gods.
I was at my grandma's house. She makes excellent scalloped potatoes—real ones, not the boxed ones.
 
I get addicted to fanfic - after Torchwood, most recently. I mean addicted.
Mmm.
I shouldn't be hungry after all the junk food I ate.
 
5:47 AM
Haha. And of course you don't read any of the NC-17 fics.
@aediaλ Likewise…
 
gasps
 
Although if you need some NC-17 fanfiction, I know some people.
Hahaha.
 
my slash pairings are um, what's the word? Chaste? Avant-garde? I always get those two confused
 
Um, I do not think the ideas are similar.
 
giggles
 
5:50 AM
Oh, I see now.
Yes, “chaste”. But of course.
Approximately as chaste as Sodom and Gomorrah, no?
 
That's the beauty of slash fanfic.
 
I can't believe I know these words.
 
I'm old enough to have been rooting for Xena/Gabrielle way back when.
 
I see. I'm not familiar with that particular show.
 
But of course, in the Torchwood universe, Janto is where it's at.
 
5:56 AM
I was just surprised at what I saw when I googled it, that's all.
 
I'm years late to the squee-ing fangirl party, but I still was so obsessed that one of my friends gave me an Ianto sticker that I put on my coffeepot.
 
Hehe.
 
Oh huh. Some of the fanart people go overboard imho, it's a little weird (says the weird person)
 
It's not a good thing.
 
As in, you have=created?
 
5:59 AM
Not even.
I just found it somewhere and posted it.
 
Oh.
 
I figured that it wouldn't gain any traction, especially as I had 27 followers then.
 
I think I was saying I don't know how tumblr tumbles the other day.
 
Right.
@aediaλ Yeah, that stuff can get… well, weird.
Like really weird.
 
Picture is worth a thousand words and it's easier to stop halfway through because it's getting weird than to not see a picture. That's why I figure fanart can weird me out way easier.
 
6:04 AM
That is sensible enough.
 
My kitchen is doing a terrible job cleaning itself. Man. What do I have to do, train it?
 
Yes.
Take it to classes.
Reward it when it succeeds.
 
We tried spilling water on it from the pipes upstairs, but I guess that didn't work...
 
Aww.
Gah! I need to stop reading HP:MoR but I hate stopping whenever Hermione is mad at Harry.
 
6:21 AM
Better half cleaned lots of things from the First Leaking Disaster of 2013 but he panicked when he got to the laundry. He couldn't input the dirty towels when there was no empty basket for the stuff in the dryer. I point this out only to give a counterpoint to my present proclamation that unloading the first dishwasher load seems hopelessly neverending.
 
Um… If you say so.
 
I have a love-hate relationship with Dishwasher.
 
Oh, I completely misunderstood the first sentence.
 
I don't know where the dishes live, as I cook maybe 10% of the time.
 
I know where my dishes live. They are in the kitchen.
 
6:25 AM
Yeah, but where does my husband want this stupid spatula thing put away?
 
With the cheese slicer and the pizza cutter.
 
I thought so too. But I think that might be wrong. I think it goes in with the wood spoon things in the jar.
 
Oh, tricky.
I would go with the jar.
 
It's hilarious to me because this is the only place in the house he cares about organization; I put away more of our stuff, and usually if it's his stuff I am not to disturb, it is in a pile.
dishes don't pile that well though I guess
*ponders *
 
Interesting.
I must to bed.
Good night and good luck.
cloud of dust
 
6:31 AM
Sleep well!
 
 
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Jez
10:34 AM
hahahaha
i just spent half an hour trying to figure out what irritating part of jQuery UI was automatically turning my table header <input> into a jQuery button
after lots of investigation with Chrome's developer tools.... i saw the piece of my code that did it
and remembered putting it there
 
11:23 AM
hi@Jez
hi @tchrist
 
12:02 PM
Let it never be said that justice is not blind in Russia.
 
Hang over?
Do you know the origin of the ubiquitous use of 42 among geeks? Is it due to hitchhikers guide and meaning of life?
 
@JohanLarsson It is.
 
ok, that is somewhat disappointing for me, did not like the book that much.
Sure it was fun in the beginning but it got old around 1/3 in.
 
Agreed.
 
12:19 PM
The good-answerers are back this morning, giving good answers even to poor questions. The long, dark weekend of crappy answers to crappy questions appears to have ended.
 
I never look on ELU proper, don't think I can tell a good from a bad answer either.
 
Oh, I think you can.
Bad answers include, but are not limited, to those that are unreadable walls of text without paragraph breaks, or which are very brief and unattributed statements of opinion, or which toss all orthographic convention to the wind.
 
ok, maybe I can spot bad formatting.
 
1:04 PM
gaming        1798 out of   2103 85.497% of gold badges are Famous Question badges
superuser     3121 out of   3886 80.314% of gold badges are Famous Question badges
serverfault   1279 out of   1843 69.398% of gold badges are Famous Question badges
so           46220 out of  74085 62.388% of gold badges are Famous Question badges
english        174 out of    417 41.727% of gold badges are Famous Question badges
unix            80 out of    209 38.278% of gold badges are Famous Question badges
photo           45 out of    135 33.333% of gold badges are Famous Question badges
That doesn’t count tag badges.
 
I don't have any Famous Question Badges. And pretty much all the ELU FQBs are for crap questions.
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Q: What is the correct way to pronounce 'router'?

stackerMerriam-Webster lists both ˈrüt and ˈrau̇t as possible pronunciations for route but only ˈrau̇-tər for router. Is it really wrong to pronounce router as 'rüter ?

I mean, I ask you.
 
@Robusto That was why I went looking.
 
4
Q: "Best of luck" or "Best luck"?

theTuxRacerSometimes I need to wish luck upon someone, and a simple "Good luck" may not suffice. For such a situation what is the correct usage? "Best Luck" or "Best of Luck"?. Why?

 
Because it seems like most of our Golds are for shitty Famous Question badges.
 
Jun 29 '11 at 12:59, by Robusto
"Praises of the unworthy are felt by ardent minds as robberies of the deserving." — Coleridge
 
1:08 PM
Notice how rarefied they become percentagewise as you get to the more abstruse SE sites.
And how commonplace as you go the other direction.
That is a measurement of . . . something.
Or a reflection.
 
> I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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Q: Which one is correct, "favourite song of all time" or "... of all times"?

zendarWhich one of these sentences is correct? That is one of my favourite songs of all time. That is one of my favourite songs of all times. I am not a native English speaker.

 
We have some Famous shit.
And I do not mean that in a good way.
 
Seriously, there must be some kind of skill involved here. Obviously I don't have it. I couldn't create a Famous Question to save my life.
 
I can’t even get a bronze badge out of it.
 
ELLs gonna be fulla Famou's Question's
 
1:12 PM
Heh.
 
4
Q: Is 'Updation' a correct word?

Devdatta TengsheI was wondering whether 'updation' is correct English or not. Sample sentence: I was involved in the updation of the website.

Depends on how you define "correct word" ...
I can only imagine that for China and India (or both) there is a burning desire to know these things.
 
Nauseatingly lame questions, those.
Apparently.
 
It would be interesting to know the origin of the views by country. That would be illuminating.
 
I don’t think they clutter the database with that, even in the employee-only view.
Still.
 
Hah, I answered a Famous Question and got only two upvotes and an accept for all the effort.
 
1:17 PM
The viewers aren’t members.
If you program your browser (or something) to autoreload, you can get a gold Fanatic badge faster than you can get the bronze badge for question views.
 
Then fuck 'em. And everybody who looks like 'em.
 
As I know from our hataganza days.
Or, you could say that a quarter of them have the silver badge for views.
That is, 2 of my 4 questions have the bronze badge, and half those two, meaning one, has the silver view badge.
That just will never happen here.
Because the questions I ask are not questions that other people have.
The questions other people have are the ones I answer. :)
 
That is a problem on SO I think, the good users hesitate to ask questions for some reason.
 
Because 99.998% of the people on SO are too stupid to be able to answer those questions.
 
Voting can handle that I think.
 
1:30 PM
It still takes the smart people finding your question.
Good luck with that.
 
I'm not one of the smart/good SO guys :D
Started programming after .net 3.5
 
Don’t even know what that would mean.
You will never meet a more rabid Microsoft opponent than I am.
Just bringing it up doubles my blood pressure.
And launches Tourettes-style profanity outbursts.
 
lol
I secretly like Microsoft a little because of C#/.net
 
It’s a bullshit solution.
 
ms >> apple imo
 
1:34 PM
For people who like to suffer, brought to you by people who like to make others suffer.
 
Are you a mac/apple guy?
 
@JohanLarsson BEELZEBUB IS BETTER THAN SATAN! LUCIFER IS BETTER THAN BEELZEBUB!! SATAN IS BETTER THAN BEELZEBUB!!!
 
Commute
 
Look at my SO answers. I’m a Unix guy. Duh!
And I don’t do dumbass enduser crap.
 
@tchrist Or your profile: "I’ve been using BSD Unix for 30 years now; like your maid, I don’t do Windows."
 
1:38 PM
Unless that enduser happens to be a programmer.
 
ok *nix is nice, I'm ashamed not to use it. It got stuck in the procrastination queue.
 
Don’t star it. That plays up the lie.
 
 
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Jez
3:33 PM
I concur with this summary of working from home.
 
Jez
3:45 PM
 
Are things not all they might be expected to be there, Jez?
 
Jez
hmm?
 
Your posts on home-working and the Meaning of Life seem a little down.
 
Jez
4:21 PM
really looking forward to playing Spore tonight
gonna get to the space stage and create a huge network of planets slowly but surely.
I'll own an entire section of a spiral of the galaxy. then when i ally the Grox, it won't matter that other species attack me - all they'll be doing is attacking the outer wing of my empire
heh heh
also i managed to get thru cell stage without dying once, on Hard difficulty. so now that I can save, i can have a game where, on hard, I don't die once
 
Hmm. I'm going to sing Rachmaninov Vespers ("All-Night Vigil") and Poulenc's Motets for Lent tonight.
Each to his own, I suppose.
 
@AndrewLeach Nice. I’ve done Rocky’s Vespers before.
 
@tchrist Oh: do you sing?
There aren't many works where there is the opportunity to show off a bottom B-flat.
 
4:36 PM
@AndrewLeach Yes, but not down there. Second tenor.
 
 
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6:25 PM
Hi @MattЭллен
How are you?
Hi @tchrist
@Jez
 
7:01 PM
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Q: How the plurals are derived?

TechKidaWhy the plural of Strory is Stories? why not Storys? and also plural of Boy becomes Boys not Boies ! why so?

Golly!
 
 
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8:05 PM
@Robusto After all the lawyers?
 
8:51 PM
@MετάEd I'm not fussy. As long as the job gets done, any order you like will do.
 
9:04 PM
@Robusto If you want a legal hanging, might want to put the lawyers off until later.
 
Hello.
I mean,
Hello @Robusto
Hello @MετάEd
 
Hi @Cerberus
 
Hello @MattЭллен
I wasn't finished yet.
 
My favorite contentious Dutch doggie in the whole wide world.
 
Hello @Mahnax
Yay!
 
9:11 PM
Hello
 
My favourite pun-addicted, also-somewhat-but-not-quite-so-addicted magical sign.
And my favourite Green Thing!
Oh, I forgot to say hello to @tchrist , who is also in the room.
 
Just start making comments about code points or ligatures. He'll know you're talking to him.
 
Heh.
 
Don't expect crap you read on the Web to be grammatical, especially crap from Twitter. — Robusto 5 mins ago
 
Or, heaven forbid, typography or Spanish...
@Robusto +1
Ugh. Why do my sentences never come out quite as perfect as they were in my mind?
I said "addicted" twice there, while I wanted to say "contentious" the second time.
 
9:16 PM
Because you are addicted to the word addicted.
 
I rather just accidentally word many mix-ups.
 
cross thread communications. It's always a problem
 
9:37 PM
@Cerberus Cerb.
 
Hello @MετάEd
@MattЭллен Right, right...I do like yoghurt in sauces and such.
But the cheese thing is true.
 
9:55 PM
mmmmm
cheese
 
You brought it up.
 
10:11 PM
I'm not lactose intolerant. It stays down.
 
Haha.
drinking tea with milk
Can somebody do me a favour and look at this website and its Ngram?
Is this what you see too?
Okay, it appears to be a Greasemonkey script/
Enhanced Word Highlight, and otherwise extremely useful script.
I have excluded Google Trends and Ngrams.
 
10:32 PM
I've broken it. I forbade then allowed google.com and the chart won't come back
time for bed, though
CU!
 
Huh?
Where/how/why did you forbid it?
 
10:45 PM
@Cerberus How dare you ... flagged
 
counter-flag
 
11:16 PM
Mutual flagellation?
 

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