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I can do two miles without water in the early morning when it's still cool like in the 50s or 60s or even 70s. But not even that when it's pushing body temp outside or worse.
But you know the climate here. Bone dry. In wetter lands I might have different pressure points from the thermometer.
@tchrist I had a total knee replacement about 12 years ago. It was awful, but it gave me my life back. There is life after knee surgery.
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I can't run anymore, no basketball, so I cycle. And hike.
This is why I try hard not to run, or not to run much ever, except at urgent need.
I know that senior citizens must guard their knees.
"Urgent need" includes hurrying to get back down below timberline before the lightning hits.
And I try not to misjudge that.
@tchrist Consider the alternative. For seven years prior to the surgery I couldn't do any kind of athletic activities, couldn't walk a mile without severe pain. Being forced into a sedentary lifestyle, I gained weight, had a "minor" stroke, and completely freaked out. I switched orthopedists and finally got a knee replacement. Long story short: after six months of hell, I got to be active again. Started exercising, shed the weight and never looked back.
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All because of the knee!?
Yes.
This is why Sisyphus was happy. You go and roll that boulder, because if you don't, you die.
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So yes, if you sit around and atrophy, your prognosis worsens severely.
I know people my age who look ten or twenty years older than I am.
And are severely mobility challenged already.
Then again, I know people younger than me like that, too. Family.
Yeah. People commonly think I'm 20 years younger than my actual age.
But not the ones who left the Chicago/Milwaukee area. Those who moved away are different.
I get asked whether I've turned 50 yet. I just smile.
"Old" people move differently.
Well, differently than I move.
They no longer trust their bodies.
"Do not go gentle into that good night."
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My normal daily minimum is 2 hours of "serious" exercise a day. When I have other tasks like visiting my 92yo great uncle in Denver I might cut that by a half hour or an hour, but never less than an hour unless I'm laid up mortally wounded. Most days it ends up being closer to 3 hours. Weekends are more.
You think better, too.
@tchrist Absolutely.
I've thought of reducing the time by increasing the pace but decided I didn't want to risk my knees.
Yeah. I'm husbanding my "good" (i.e., non-metal) knee because I don't want to go through another knee replacement. So if I get twinges on a climb I take it easier, reminding myself it's not a race.
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He doesn't want to finish it.
Brandon Sanderson can finish things.
Santa Fe won't let him build his five-story writer's tower on his property.
Maybe what he really needs is a seven-story tower.
00:49
If I cycle for 50 to 60 km a day, do I need an electrolyte drink? I usually just buy some kefir on the way.
Sports drinks, also known as electrolyte drinks, are functional beverages whose stated purpose is to help athletes replace water, electrolytes, and energy before, during and especially after training or competition. The evidence is lacking pertaining to the efficacy of use of commercial sports drinks for sports and fitness performance. Consuming too much or in unnecessary circumstances may hinder health or performance. The drinks, or some of their ingredients such as sugar, may not be suitable for certain conditions. == Categories == Sports drinks can be split into three major types: Isotonic...
> A 2019 meta-review found that “dairy milk may provide either comparable or superior recovery nutrition qualities with regards to muscle protein synthesis, glycogen replenishment, rehydration, and subsequent endurance exercise performance, when compared to non-nutritive, carbohydrate replacement, and (or) carbohydrate-electrolyte alternatives.”.[9]
Oh. So me drinking kefir on my rides must be okay.
@Robusto I'm sorry to hear that! I wish a knee replacement allowed one to run.
My friend psychiatrist told me off strongly for my idea that I had a stroke on 21 Jan 2010. He said that an area of gliosis can appear spontaneously in one's brain. But this time I do not agree with him, so we had a quarrel.
I don't think that an area of gliosis can just pop up in one's tectal plate (brainstem).
He said "just google for 'spontaneous gliosis' and there will be dozens of articles in your beloved English language", but I found none.
01:37
This year's September in Moscow is the warmest on record gismeteo.ru/news/weather/…
For the second year in a row, Moscow has had a fourth summer month, from a climate standpoint, with 11 days classified as hot, and with one day almost reaching +30 C
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@CowperKettle Yeah, no such luck.
@CowperKettle Can't hurt.
02:24
> Jason Arday was unable to speak until he was 11 and could not read or write until he was 18. As a P.E teacher in 2012, he wrote a list of goals he wanted to achieve. One of them was to be a professor at Oxford or Cambridge University.
"If merely brute caprice dooms Sisyphus to clamber up a never-ending stair"
(Countee Cullen)
03:09
@tchrist You inspired me to do more.
(more than what I'm doing now, not more than you :-) )
@tchrist On a mountain hike with about 2,000 ft gain I once met a 75 yr old guy who is doing better than me, finishing the 2 mile trail in about 2 hours!
When I was skiing in the nearby park, there was always this old guy who was constantly overtaking me.
@CowperKettle It has been abnormally hot where I lived as well, maybe I need to move closer to the Arctic. I once met someone who immigrated to Canada from Yakutsk; maybe it's now not as cold as it's used to as well!
A lot of people have immigrated to Canada. My dad's friend from the Noyabrsk lawn tennis club did.
I'm glad for all people who have avoided living under Putin.
 
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Korean idiom of the day: The words become the seed — meaning that something spoken can motivate the conseqences to actually happen.
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So in two words, "verbal karma".
 
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@OakBot Am I good human now?
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Y he aquí que dentro de tres horas surgirá en el este ya grávido con el nuevo día ese gran orbe muerto más negro que negro e invisible para todos.
@Vikas None who in Tartaros abide can hear nor heed your obtestations thither.
@tchrist Eclipse?
@jlliagre Like unto, but the twin orbs will be like two ships passing each other in the night though it be dawn.
The new sun rises at 7:01, the new moon at 7:50, but we shall have eyes only for him not for her.
Ukrainian word of the day: toloka - 1) fallow field; 2) a gathering of people for communal work, similar to North American "bee", as in "barn raising bee", "logging bee", "spinning bee" etc.
M. Turansky, Toloka, 1972
A barn raising, also historically called a raising bee or rearing in the U.K., is a collective action of a community, in which a barn for one of the members is built or rebuilt collectively by members of the community. Barn raising was particularly common in 18th- and 19th-century rural North America. A barn was a necessary structure for any farmer, for example for storage of cereals and hay and keeping of animals. Yet a barn was also a large and costly structure, the assembly of which required more labor than a typical family could provide. Barn raising addressed the need by enlisting members...
And yes, I realize the southern orbital gods have swapped genders compared with the northern ones, but so be it.
Silent Selene.
She turns her black back upon us as she faces him directly in his blinding radiance.
Cloaked in fuligin she hides from us.
11:43
In which kingdom can Tesla robotaxis be found?
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@tchrist Possibly the kingdom of Utopia.
#travle #659 +4
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@tchrist Erewhon
12:40
Regnum non Animale non Vegetabile, sic Lapideum.
Under the ancient system.
But Linnaeus early abandoned, or was exiled from, his mineral kingdom.
He was myopic and included nothing he could not see.
It's hard enough getting used to flora, fauna, and funga.
@RyderisnotRude. Do I also have to write the equation for that line's curve?
May I first fold the paper arbitrarily?
You would get bonus points for that.
May I fold it thrice into threespace before plotting that line, and if so, will you allow higher dimensions?
Yes, I will allow higher dimensions.
12:51
You do realize that just because 𝒊 is a number doesn't mean that ℂ is a number.
A street sweeper on his way to work, this morning
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Yea verily, His Radiance is risen!
Hodie natus est.
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The apparent magnitude of the new moon is about ten higher than they'll of the full moon, so only half that of a full Venus. No wonder we cannot see her when she rises so near to the daystar, like the Messenger at opposition. Too close to blinding splendor for our eyes to perceive.
Blinded by the light...
@tchrist Great view
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I scored 925/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 22 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 196 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 568 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 182 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 558 km - 🗓️ 17 yrs - ⚡ 147 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 2 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 1 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200

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#WhenTaken #219 (03.10.2024)

I scored 962/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 615 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 179 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 347 km - 🗓️ 4 yrs - ⚡ 185 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 2 km - 🗓️ 2 yrs - ⚡ 198 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 110.6 metres - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 392.8 metres - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200

https://whentaken.com
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Hey all, I'm the author of OakBot. If you want to change his prompt, let me know. By default, he is told to be grumpy and unhelpful. You can also make him leave the room by using the "/leave" command.
@Michael Or you could just make him leave.
We don't need extra noise around here. We have enough already.
14:13
I didn't make him join this room, someone else must have.
@Michael We don't want bots, let alone grumpy and unhelpful ones. How does someone bid him come hither? Surely you will have logs for this.
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My Score: 2260
Back from four antejentacular miles.
You can either use the /join command or invite him to a room using the chat system's invite feature.
@Michael What about setting it to be helpful and cheerful?
14:15
@jlliagre You mean like Microsoft's "Clippy"?
Sure, I can do that. I'll have to wait until I get home from work though.
You can also use the /mood command to tweak his behavior
/mood cheerful
@Robusto I didn't wrote annoying but you might be right.
/leave
As a moderator I wish to discover who has done this to us.
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@Michael So your logs should say if it's the former. If we can rule that out, I can start upon the more arduous process of tracking it down via invites which mods can pursue.
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My Score: 1940
15:48
@Robusto I think I'm getting better though.
16:23
@Michael Seeing how stubborn he is, I don't think he'll leave XD
@Vikas No, I'm pretty sure he left when Robusto did the command.
He's glitched out anyway after that short outage from a bit ago.
16:47
Oakbot claimed to be "spic[ing] things up a bit to match the energy" outside of the super user chat, where his social standing with ELU chat was discussed.
We aren't that grumpy, are we?
@Conrado That's just ChatGPT hallucinating an explanation. :)
In reality, Oak can be configured to use different prompts for each room. The prompt basically defines his personality.
Ah, I see. Good to know.
Sometimes I don't quite understand why people say "pun unintended" because in choosing the words, they must have intended something playful. If they really don't intend the pun, they can choose another word. Is the right way to invoke "pun unintended" is when they have tried their best to choose another word but they are forced to use that word that could be interpreted as a pun?
Unless a prompt has been defined for a room, Oak will use the default prompt, which is something to the extent of, "I am grumpy and do not want to be helpful". This was intended to be a joke, but ChatGPT is really good at being grumpy...sometimes too good.
For example, I just wrote this answer. In the paragraph before the Conclusion, I was thinking, should I add "pun unintended" when I choose the words "that your parents sign you up for" because the paragraph is about the sign of circumcision / baptism? But as I proof-read it, it's kind of nice as a pun though initially I didn't intend it consciously, maybe unconsciously, but that's beyond my control.
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@Michael Yeah, it is pretty good a being grumpy. For what it's worth (speaking as a simple user, not a mod or trend-setter or anything like that), I agree with the opinion someone expressed over there, that Oakbot should require room owner or mod permission to join. I mean, we are sometimes grumpy over here, which means that the bot needs to get on our good side before blatantly violating protocol.
Of course (again speaking as a non-mod) if a mod or one of the important folks from the higher strata of the room had invited it into the social fabric here, I would perhaps feel more forgiving of its rambunctions.
Yes, I'm thinking of revisiting the feature that allows anyone to invite Oak to a room.
@GratefulDisciple Did you hear about the guy that submitted ten puns to a punning contest, in the hopes that at least one of them would win a prize?
No pun in ten did.
@Conrado Haven't heard that joke before. Thanks.
 
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@Robusto Didn't recall having ever consulted Clippy, but here's a quite long and detailed history of Clippy, a kind of Tribute to him (or her?).
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@Michael Please tell me you have logs.
19:36
Oak doesn't have logs that would have recorded this
19:47
@Michael To be honest, I'm surprised you'd launch a service affecting communications between real users without that baseline level of logging and monitoring.
Moreover, any bot like this should require a clear "opt-in" by a room's moderators, and it must provide--in its first message to a chatroom--clear instructions for how to opt out.
What happened?
I will like I'm looking at the crater and wondering where the meteor came from
@Robusto major surgeries are scary. People around you are reassuring you that you will go under for a couple of hours at least, people will open you up, change some things, and patch you up again.
If something goes wrong, you won't even know it let alone act on it
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@alphabet It's a hobby programming project that I've been working on on-and-off for the last several years.
@alphabet I don't think the ELU chatroom was oakie's target demographic. It was basically a hack for another chatroom where everyone knew the mechanics and wanted some of them. I don't think it's fair to say that Michael launched a service; he wrote the software, but someone else dumped it on the rest of chat.
@M.A.R. I understand that it is fraught with peril, but I do like the result in this case.
@GratefulDisciple Thanks, that was more than I ever wanted to know about Clippy. ;-)
@Robusto damn if the transplant didn't transform my life. It was like getting back on asphalt road
Yeah, Oak just runs under a regular user account. StackExchange chat doesn't have delineations or APIs for bot accounts like other, more modern chat services do.
20:09
@M.A.R. Nice simile. As a cyclist, I appreciate it.
@Michael FWIW, I like SE's old simplistic UI. Slack, Discord etc. give me a headache with the 1500 reactions and smileys.
Without my corneal transplants, I would find it nearly impossible to read anything.
I was a bit surprised that the SE chat rooms have not been given better services through which such accounts could be connected, administered and monitored. However, there's probably little revenue to be seen there, so I guess that's the reason that no tooling has been put in place.
@M.A.R. Same. Although, having proper Markdown formatting support would be nice.
@M.A.R. Discord will soon be blocked in Russia, but I never even visited it.
I mean I never visited Discord, not Russia.
20:14
@CowperKettle well, technically you never visited Russia
> I would say [cars cause more fatalities] because bikers are forcing them over the middle...
OK, that wasn't fair to set the lady up like that!
Entrapment, I say!
20:29
@Conrado Autonormalist!
20:41
@Robusto Didn't watch to the end, but just enough to agree. The disturbing thought is I don't think it's limited to cars, but other high-cost / high-value things as well, like my phone, my house, my country, my city, my religion, my political-party, etc. People can become very irrational when they are highly invested in something; it's scary. Not to mention the "my kid is always right" syndrome.
58-yo nurse sentenced to 8 years in jail for two posts on a social network about the Special Military Operation
Her social page had only 15 subscribers
@CowperKettle Yeah, because who needs nurses?
@CowperKettle they're running a social experiment where they will eventually put everyone in the prison except murderers.
@M.A.R. The animals are running the zoo, in other words.
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@Robusto I mean, I hate that I need a car. Tabriz is probably not even medium-sized by US standards, but I would need hours to get to uni and back every day
Which I once upon a time didn't mind, hmm
@M.A.R. I'm not happy about that either. The grocery store is about a mile from my house, but I generally walk there and back unless I'm going to be carrying lots of heavy stuff.
Come to think of it, maybe I could figure out a way to use my mountain bike for that. I'd have to have a backpack or something. Hmmm.
21:54
I use a grill like this.
And a used 700c tube to tie things down.
@Conrado Yeah, but then I'd have to put it on and take it off. Bummer.
22:24
Looks fine - try and mount it a bit lower, closer to the tyre if you can.
That lowers the weight and minimises impact on handling
Also helps it act as a read mudguard/fender for road spray
22:43
@Mitch Question Time's in the US next week. And there's still time to take part as a member of the studio audience!
@Mitch See here!
23:00
@Conrado Another way to use a grill on a bike:
Is "hyperthanatic" a word?
Like, to have transcended death.
23:13
@DannyuNDos Dunno - every google result is for the phrase "The Christian martyr as a hyperthanatic philosopher and mystes, and the success of christianity"
I made up this word for my next music composition. "Hyperthanatic Wolves" as a sequel to "Extraterrestrial Cats".
@DannyuNDos Try "An Apotheosis of Wolves."
Are they real wolves, or "Hypothetical Wolves" ?
The concept is to compose a music with wolf sounds.
@DannyuNDos Apparently, thanatists believe the soul cease to exist at death (heretics!) so I guess hyperthanatics people believe the soul vigorously cease to exist.
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@jlliagre Or those who get really hyper about dying.
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A: Which is higher — "hyper-", "ultra-" or "super-"?

RobustoJohn Lawler is right that they mean mostly the same thing. But in terms of actual usage, hyper- is often used when something more than super- is needed. For example, an aircraft that flies faster than the speed of sound is called supersonic. But there arose a need to distinguish between mere supe...

@Robusto I'm not hyper fanatic about it.
@jlliagre You're just hypersensitive.
second-generation-sensitive ? Increment as required.
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I'm never sure how long to spend revising answers
Usually the answer is "30 seconds because it's readable and nobody's grading me"
But then all my answers sound clunky and awkward
So anyway if all my answers seem badly written, it's because I'm lazy, not incompetent, I promise

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