English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

jlliagre

00:07

@Robusto You should add eigne to the list. Strange way to write aîné.

TRiG

Now there's an eggcorn: I notice all kinds of half-hazard shit at companies.

3

(Haphazard, if you were wondering.)

tchrist

@TRiG Because half a czar is better than one.

alphabet

00:26

@CowperKettle If the pilot-wave interpretation is correct, wouldn't either option have the same outcome?

What if nobody dies due to quantum immortality?

TRiG

01:22

@tchrist Yup.

@alphabet I had a mediaeval feast once, where the cook served mixed brassicas, on the basis that we have no idea what mediaeval brassicas were like.

alphabet

01:44

Incidentally, I continue to think that this question should be reopened, since research would almost certainly lead someone to an incorrect conclusion: english.stackexchange.com/questions/603575

(See my comment on the question, and my answer below. Anyway, end of rant.)

Cerberus

02:03

You've already got my vote.

alphabet

03:07

Also, Reddit debates Received Pronunciation: old.reddit.com/r/AmITheDevil/comments/11ebu49/…

Also Phonetics Daddy is back to teach us more on weak forms: m.youtube.com/watch?v=qlbGtEg68x4

alphabet

03:32

Annoyingly, he transcribes the strong form of AmE "can" as [kæn], but he pronounces it correctly with æ-tensing. Boo!

Cerberus

@alphabet That sounds like a troll post.

CowperKettle

05:13

CowperKettle

05:41

Yesterday was the warmest 29th May in the history of Yekaterinburg (well, at least in the recorded temperature history, which goes back 143 years) t.me/s/weather66

It was +10°C hotter than the average temp for 29 May.

Vikas

(in Celsius)

@CowperKettle Yours showing cloudy almost everyday.

CowperKettle

Yes, thanks God, there are clouds sometimes :)

Xanne

07:22

Wordle 710 6/6

⬜🟨⬜🟨🟨
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
🟨🟨🟨⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Relatively hard.

jlliagre

08:04

Wordle 710 4/6

⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜
⬜⬜🟩⬜⬜
🟨⬜⬜🟨⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

CowperKettle

08:29

A Shakhed in a kitchen in Kiev

CowperKettle

09:20

Putin's plan for getting out of a crisis.

15 months ago: "It will be over in a week". Now: "Will drones reach Yekaterinburg?"

Vikas

11:02

If it can reach Kremlin it can reach anywhere.

jlliagre

@Vikas Even the dark side of the Moon?

Vikas

12:08

@jlliagre That will take a long time. We need a rocket that can travel much faster than current ones.

CowperKettle

Idiom of the day: too clever by half

CowperKettle

12:54

Putin Assassination Attempt

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Robusto

#Worldle #494 1/6 (100%)
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

Not a lot to know about that country.

CowperKettle

13:19

I wonder what the salesman holds in his hand. Some red thing.

#Worldle #494 1/6 (100%)
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https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

Robusto

physics crackpots: a 'theory'

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@CowperKettle Probably a porkchop or a lambchop.

🌎 May 30, 2023 🌍
🔥 18 | Avg. Guesses: 4.54
⬜🟥🟩 = 3

globle-game.com
#globle

CowperKettle

13:43

Lamb Chop (puppet)

Lamb Chop is a sock puppet anthropomorphic sheep created by puppeteer and ventriloquist Shari Lewis. The character, a female lamb, first appeared during Lewis' guest appearance on Captain Kangaroo in March 1956 and later appeared on Hi Mom (1957–1959), a local morning show that aired on WRCA-TV in New York, New York. == Concept and creation == Lamb Chop has been described as a "6-year-old girl, very intuitive and very feisty, a combination of obstinacy and vulnerability...you know how they say fools rush in where wise men fear to go? Well, Lamb Chop would rush in, then scream for help." Lamb Chop...

CowperKettle

13:53

Gene of the day: FAAH-OUT - mutations in this gene make a person unable to feel pain.

> Dr Andrei Okorokov (UCL Medicine), a senior author of the study, said: “The FAAH-OUT gene is just one small corner of a vast continent, which this study has begun to map.

What's amazing is that it is located in a junk region. Probably has an unorthodox structure, and was not noticed during the Human Genome project.

> Two other key genes that were altered were BDNF, which has previously been linked to mood regulation and ACKR3, which helps to regulate opioid levels. These gene changes may contribute to Jo Cameron’s low anxiety, fear and painlessness.

This could prove useful in psychiatry.

A pidgeon flew into my balcony and bumped hard a couple times before finding his way out.

Crows are so much smarter. I thought I would have to go and help him out.

Robusto

14:14

@CowperKettle Not that kinda lambchop.

Wordle 710 X/6

⬛⬛⬛🟩⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
🟨⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛🟨⬛🟩🟩
🟨⬛⬛🟩🟩
⬛⬛🟩🟩🟩

Well, it had to happen sooner or later.

Bad way to start the day.

Daily Quordle 491
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Vikas

14:56

2023 Indian wrestlers' protest

Indian Wrestlers' protests are ongoing protests by prominent Indian wrestlers against the alleged sexual harassment of female wrestlers by the BJP MP Brij Bhushan Sharan Singh during his tenure as the president of the Wrestling Federation of India (WFI). The accused denied all the allegations against him and called the protests a conspiracy to remove him from the parliament.The protestors organized a sit-in at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi, in January 2023 making the sexual harassment allegations against Brij Bhushan public. After an assurance that the Central government will form a committee to look...

alphabet

17:22

@Robusto As someone reading Huddleston & Pullum out of boredom, I'm trying not to act like a crackpot linguist.

The linguistics establishment is wrong! Only I know the true nature of fused determiner-heads!

The establishment won't listen to my theory about T-glottalization!

SmokeDetector

18:34

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (36): Adjective to describe a 'hurtful kind of art/music' ✏️‭ by Florian Herzog‭ on english.SE

MetaEd

Wordle 710 6/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛🟩⬛🟨
🟨⬛🟩🟨⬛
⬛⬛🟩🟨🟨
⬛🟨⬛⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

that was a tough one. partly because I started guessing, thinking I knew better than my own process I had come up with

Incidentally, within a penguin there is ennui.

Robusto

19:37

@MetaEd And unite could in some cases be construed as rhyming with unity.

MetaEd

Unity: tiny tin nut in it.

Robusto

@MetaEd You left out tinny.

Wait, my mind is on a different puzzle. If you're only using a letter one time, that doesn't work.

@alphabet They've got a lot of nerve!

Daily Octordle #491
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Score: 74

Not my day.

Mitch

20:04

@alphabet you did of course add that 'are' with plural nouns is the way most standard English speakers say it and that 'are' sounds weird in AAE, right?

Sure they could infer that but since they're asking that inference will be hard to make.

@Robusto fixed

I don't know how autocorrect found 'under' nearer to whatever it was I wrote for 'infer'

But you should have been able to under it from context

@alphabet better than being a linguist's crockpot

@alphabet keep up the good fight!

Robusto

@Mitch I'll take the over on that.

Mitch

@CowperKettle dude. You've never experienced that song that never ends

Today is your day

Your life will never be the same as before hearing it

jlliagre

Wordle 710 4/6

⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜
⬜⬜🟩⬜⬜
🟨⬜⬜🟨⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Business as usual ;-)

Robusto

@Mitch Word-dropper.

jlliagre

Daily Quordle 491
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Lucky, one of my seed words was a hit!

Mitch

20:12

@MetaEd starling staring string sting sing sin in I

@Robusto cripes

@CowperKettle I'm having a hard time making sense of that. -with- rationing -everybody- has more? I think that's the opposite of rationing

@jlliagre which half is that?

jlliagre

@Mitch The one you "see" during a total solar eclipse, if you are lucky.

Daily Octordle #491
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Score: 80
Pas terrible...

Mitch

20:33

@jlliagre I've never seen that

People say it is like a religious experience

jlliagre

@Mitch I moved to be in the path of the one north of Paris in 1999. That was a really special experience, something surreal.

Solar eclipse of August 11, 1999

A total solar eclipse occurred on 11 August 1999 with an eclipse magnitude of 1.0286. A solar eclipse occurs when the Moon passes between Earth and the Sun, thereby totally or partly obscuring the image of the Sun for a viewer on Earth. A total solar eclipse occurs when the Moon's apparent diameter is larger than the Sun's, blocking all direct sunlight, turning day into darkness. Totality occurs in a narrow path across Earth's surface, with the partial solar eclipse visible over a surrounding region thousands of kilometres wide. The path of the Moon's shadow began in the Atlantic Ocean and, before...

Mitch

The only religious experience I've ever had is one time when I was visiting someone and they are Episcopalian (and I have no idea about that stuff) and at some point during the service (did I mention we went to church?) Row by row people were lining up to go get this thing called 'communion' (sp?) And they got to our row and somehow I was walking up to the front and doing what my friend did and I found myself kneeling in front of some guys handing out juice and crackers

But saying it was something else

They weren't very good juice or crackers

Just saying

So the closest thing I've ever had to a religious experience was an intense feeling of embarrassment, not knowing if I was stepping first with the wrong foot or thinking u provisioned thiughts

Lambie

@Mitch Sorry Mitch. The juice and crackers is for Methodists. Usually, Episcopalians use wine and wafers. It's hard to believe you have only experienced one communion. It's basically the same for Catholics. But tell me, how was all that a "religious experience"? You are not supposed to take communion if you have not had a first communion.

Mitch

@jlliagre I don't know if you could use the eclipse in your resale advertisement

jlliagre

@Mitch It's a remnant of our antropophagic past, eating Christ's body and drinking his blood.

Robusto

20:41

@Mitch All of my religious upbringing seemed very mundane. The most religious experience I ever had was holding my newborn children.

Mitch

@Lambie maybe the embarrassment was anticipation of being told that I wasn't supposed to do it

@Robusto mine were more...sloppy?

Robusto

@Lambie That sounds like a paradox. How can you ever have a first communion if you can't take communion until you do that?

Lambie

The ceremony is called First Communion. You study with a priest and THEN, there is a special ceremony.

Mitch

@Robusto you've just proved God exists.

At least mathematically

Not that that would be convincing

Robusto

@Lambie I know, I was raised Roman Catholic. But my objection still stands.

Lambie

20:46

The Episcopalians do not believe in transubstantiation. That's Catholic. I guess Henry the XIII was good for something.

@Robusto No, you are not supposed to take communion as they say before the formal ceremony of First Communion.

Mitch

@Robusto objection overruled. This ain't no court of law

Robusto

@Lambie Did you mean Henry VIII? There was no Henry XIII.

@Mitch If this ain't no court of law, how can you overrule my objection?

Lambie

@Robusto I was talking to Mitch. :) [Yes, Henry the EIGHTH]. He created the Church of England when he broke with Rome.

Robusto

I know.

Mitch

@Robusto hah! You fell into my trap

What that trap is I'm still working on

Robusto

20:49

And yet I still move freely!

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

jlliagre

@Mitch Resale advertisement? I don't get it.

Robusto

Also (for all you dieters out there) a waist is a terrible thing to mind.

Mitch

@Robusto eppur si muove!

Robusto

@jlliagre @Mitch is having a problem with word salad these days.

@Mitch Don't think you can moon me in chat and get away with it.

Mitch

@jlliagre I was assuming you moved to this eclipse-conveninet place (and for the joke) also you've since sold and moved away

And an advertisement 'good for watching the eclipse in 1999' probably wouldn't work well for the crowd that would be attracted by the possibility of seeing one

@Robusto just trying to bring you down to earth

MetaEd

20:57

@Mitch starling: an arsing giant trails its liar snail in gaslit tarns, staring agrin.

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Mitch

Well...

jlliagre

@Mitch Got it, I me suis déplacé, not I ai déménagé.

Mitch

Oh

Divided by a common language

Wait

jlliagre

21:14

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Q: About "move to"

Is it correct to use "move to" in the following context? I will stay in Gozo for a few days then move to Malta island for the rest of my stay in Malta. I plan to stay in Malta only for 12 days but not really to live there. Or, "move to" always means "to go from one place of residence to a...

Mitch

I now declare my intention to start to always call it 'chocalatine'

Robusto

@Mitch Good luck with all that.

Mitch

@jlliagre 'move to' means you now reside in a different place.

'go to' is probably what should have been mentioned in that answer

jlliagre

@Mitch Annoying answer in comments...

Mitch

@jlliagre after some time here you can read a comment and wonder who would write something so obviously wrong.... And then you look to see who wrote it and go ' oh yeah that guy'

jlliagre

21:34

Et pourtant, elle déménage !

jlliagre

22:47

@Mitch Shock a Latin!

CowperKettle

One of the key Red commanders during the Russian civil war was born in Tabriz. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayk_Bzhishkyan

Cerberus

Wait, that was not where MAR lives?

CowperKettle

Yes.

And there's a civil war brewing in Russia, so he's got to hurry.

That guy commanded a cavalry army that nearly took Warsaw in 1920, although really there was no chance of taking Poland. It was Lenin's pipe dream.

Cerberus

@CowperKettle You really think so?

How could the opposition gather an army? Weapons?

CowperKettle

I'm joking

Cerberus

23:00

Phew haha.

CowperKettle

If there will be a civil war, it will be between Putin's oligarchs and nationalists (?). So there will be no "good side" to side with.

Girkin against Prigozhin.

Madman against Butcher.

Cerberus

@CowperKettle Exactly.

CowperKettle

23:16

Development of a child, before and after his precise diagnosis was discovered.

They found the affected gene by whole-exome sequencing, and fine-tuned the therapy, and he went from "below average" to "at or above" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7434608

Left untreated, this thing develops into autism

alphabet

23:34

@CowperKettle Igor Girkin, everyone's favorite blogger and/or war criminal.

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