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12:20 AM
@Xanne You''re not wrong. I did used to work at MGH. tangentially involved in medical language.
 
> Massachusetts General Hospital houses the largest hospital-based research program in the world, the Mass General Research Institute, with an annual research budget of more than $1 billion in 2019.
 
1:30 AM
@CowperKettle We do use "dicking around" in US English, but mostly we would use "fucking around"; if you're going to escalate the rhetoric into the profane, might as well go the rest of the way. In for a penny, in for a pound. Note that "fuck around" can be either a reproof ("Quit fucking around and get back to work!") or a casual statement of idle behavior ("We're just fucking around. Come on over and join us if you want to.")
 
2:01 AM
@CowperKettle There are so many medical schools and hospitals in Boston and MGH is just one of them.
You can't spit in Boston without hitting somebody who feels bad for only having two higher degrees.
 
@Mitch Hey, don't spit on my son!
 
Haha all those multi degreed people would immediately admonish for compromising public health and discuss mitigating procedures for the transgression.
Half the medical residents already had MD equivalents, residency equivalents and board exams equivalents and had to go through it all again to pass the American board exams (to practice medicine legally in the US)
 
2:35 AM
@Mitch Actually, my son never feels bad about anything. But if you go around spitting in Cambridge, you might inadvertently hit him. You never know.
 
3:16 AM
Etymology of the day: sombre -- Latin sub ‘under’ + umbra ‘shade’.
 
 
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4:39 AM
@Mitch One interesting team of neuropsychiatry scientists is based in Boston. The do cool research into the causes of treatment-resistant depression.
I've been tracking their publications, now and then, for a couple years.
 
4:53 AM
I hope their results get replicated.
 
5:21 AM
Word of late morn: larping - live action role playing
 
5:36 AM
@CowperKettle We use stool word for this kind of furniture in our local language too.
 
6:17 AM
> The Waiter said, I am sorry but we are so busy tonight.Would you mind waiting for a bit?
I said no problem.
He said good, now take these drinks to table. 7.
 
6:31 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, potentially bad ip for hostname in answer (95): What's the difference between 'mark' and 'grade', in an educational context?‭ by Jennifer Lawrence‭ on english.SE
 
6:49 AM
Powerful earthquake in Turkey and Syria.
 
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@CowperKettle Dogs.
at 04:39
 
Only one section of the video is not translatable into English, where the local speaks Russian, so the reporter girl also switches to Russia. The authors of the video understood that while some Russians in Russia don't understand Ukrainian, all Ukrainians in Ukraine understand and speak Russian. So there's no subtitles to translate.
I would be very afraid to go there as a journalist. A stray shell, and it's all over.
 
Aren't the two languages similar?
 
Very similar
Ukrainian was gathering "advanced-culture" words through Polish, because it was part of Poland until 1653. Russian was gathering "advanced-culture" words through German, French, Dutch. So there's some difference in some words.
But I guess that after 1653 there was a lot of intermixing, so they are very much alike.
 
9:23 AM
@CowperKettle Are Russian and Ukranian significantly different languages?
 
10:03 AM
@FaheemMitha No, some people believe that they are merely two dialects of the same language.
Amazing.
Stars can be seen orbiting the huge black hole at the center of our galaxy
 
10:26 AM
@CowperKettle Huge? It must be tiny, it's invisible ;-)
 
No fat shaming in this chat
 
11:13 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer, potentially bad ns for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer (140): What do you call it when someone exposes themselves by speaking first out of tension when addressing a group of people about a culprit?‭ by BrianMckay‭ on english.SE
 
 
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1:47 PM
@CowperKettle OK.
 
2:12 PM
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Q: What is Mood & Tone in poem A thing of beauty by John keats

Gopal sharmaWhat is mood & tone in john keats A thing of beauty

There seems no remedy for such orthographic train-wrecks when they put off learning how to use capital letters, question marks, apostrophes, numeric concord, and actual post-Tironian words like and written out in full until Week 2 of their remedial English 001 course. You kidz git offa yer fonez ya lamerz!
For what values of 𝓧 are X lessons to writing as elocution lessons are to speaking?
> And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
Then the sign said, "The words on the prophets are written on the subway walls
In tenement halls"
And whispered in the sound of silence
 
2:36 PM
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Tironian notes (Latin: notae Tironianae) are a set of thousands of signs that were formerly used in a system of shorthand (Tironian shorthand) dating from the 1st century BCE and named after Tiro, a personal secretary to Marcus Tullius Cicero, who is often credited as their inventor. Tiro's system consisted of about 4,000 signs, extended to 5,000 signs by others. During the medieval period, Tiro's notation system was taught in European monasteries and expanded to a total of about 13,000 signs. The use of Tironian notes declined after 1100 but lasted into the 17th century. A few Tironian signs are...
Today I learned. Never heard of this.
> During the medieval period, Tiro's notation system was taught in European monasteries and expanded to a total of about 13,000 signs.
 
@CowperKettle What, you never heard of Cicero and his famous amanuensis?
 
2:52 PM
@Robusto I only heard of Cicero
 
You don't need to go very deep in Cicero's life without learning of Tiro. Most people only know Cicero (other than those who live in the Chicago-area municipality of that name) from his antagonistic relationship with Marc Antony, and from his writings during the era of the dissolution of the Roman republic. But he was a fascinating character in his own right, well worth a bit of exploration.
 
I read about Cicero in some old history book written by some ancient author, when I was ill with hepatitis, and was staying in an isolation chamber in the hospital for 20 days.
There was no TV set, and my dad brought me only books on history.
Because I had gotten a 3 for the quarter in history at school.
5 is the highest mark, 1 is the lowest.
 
3:19 PM
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3:29 PM
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3:54 PM
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4:16 PM
Daily Octordle #378
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Il faut appeler un chat un chat !
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jlly
chatgpt?
oh boy.
 
CatGPT!
Verb: appeler un chat un chat
  1. to call a spade a spade (to call something what it is)
 
Have you tried Dalle 2 yet?
 
Yes
 
Two calico cats playing chess in a grand library, digital art.
That’s my favorite prompt for it thus far.
Edit as necessary.
 
4:53 PM
@FaheemMitha I find this guy's language sensibilities to be fairly reliable:
 
@Mitch OK. Thank you.
 
Hmm, Spelling Bee won't take uncial.
 
@FaheemMitha and you can hear for yourself:
 
@Mitch OK.
 
There are lots of youtube videos on the subject.
There's the sociolinguistic difference which isn't often said outloud. As standard languages, Russian and Ukrainian are border line mutually intelligible (ie they're almost not mutually intelligible).
-But-
Most people in Ukraine, before 2014, whether of recent Russian descent or longtime Ukrainian descent, spoke Russian at home. But also spoke Ukrainian.
So most Ukrainians could understand Russian just fine. Russians (from Russia and those with recent Russian ancestors) living in Ukraine probably don't understand Ukrainian very well.
Since 2014 there's been a resurgence of speaking -just- Ukrainian in Ukraine.
@CowperKettle Does all that sound right to you?
@Robusto But it does take '******'
You almost had me there, I was going to give it all away.
 
5:05 PM
@Mitch No. Like me, it doesn't take any shit.
 
I'll tell you my annoyance tomorrow.
@Robusto That wasn't any old shit
 
NOU!!!
 
There's a twitter feed of perfectly fine British words that Spelling Bee does not accept.
 
I tried emailing NYT to ask them to start accepting nacelle. They replied, and in three paragraphs said precisely nothing about the issue at hand, but vaguely informing me that they kind of like their word list just the way it is, thank you very much.
"And please email us again sometime!"
Oh yeah? What's in it for me?
 
5:18 PM
I've run into twigged and parlour and bollock and demob/bed before.
Probably abbatoir as well. A perfectly ordinary word that has migrated into English for the cognoscenti.
They are obviously no friends of the dolphin: finful went down the tubes without comment.
 
bites tongue
 
Yay, they accepted fliial.
 
@Robusto Oh?
 
Mmm-hmm.
 
I'll just mention 'keming'
 
5:24 PM
They didn't accept that one?
 
Look closer.
 
Haha, I thought it said kerning ...
Old eyes.
 
l-l a l-i a
 
Not that old.
 
5:55 PM
@Mitch Yes, except that I'm sure that any Russian, after just listening to Ukrainian news on the TV for a couple months, would understand Ukrainian quite well :)
@Mitch Western Ukrainians spoke more Ukrainian at home. But Russian was slowly gaining before 2014, due to Russian movies etc.
 
6:08 PM
@CowperKettle Nice...thanks. Whenever I hear the question (@FaheemMitha) 'Is X different from Y?' I'm like 'It's obvious they're different, they have different names.'
And then I think of Czech vs Slovak, Hindi vs Urdu, Serbian vs Croatian which are almost identical.
And then I also think of German vs Swiss German, or English vs Scots English, or Standard Arabic vs any home Arabic, where understandability only goes one way.
@FaheemMitha You seemed incredulous that @Cerberus and I said that 'things are getting better'. Here are a number of graphics (sprinkled among lots of other graphics) that show how things 'are getting better' for everybody around the world at least for some specific things:
 
In 2014, Putin was pushing Yanukovich to play a strong man, and pushed too far. He wanted to keep Ukraine within the Russian "sphere of influence".
 
@CowperKettle Hmm how did Putin push, at that particular moment?
 
@Cerberus I read that he insisted that Yanukovich use force to disperse the crowd in the center of Kiev
 
Ah, OK.
 
But Yanukovich was just a corrupt politician, he was not a Kadyrov or Lukashenko.
 
6:21 PM
So but that was in response to the massive unrest, not the cause of the unrest?
 
The cause of the unrest was the beating up of students who had been staying overnight in the square.
In the late 2013.
 
Right.
And the unrest was partly fuelled by Western people/organisations, right?
 
Yanukovich could have acted smarter. Just let them freeze there.
 
Yeah.
 
@Cerberus How?
 
6:23 PM
Dutch parliamentarians held speeches at Maidan.
And many others.
 
That was after the crowds gathered there.
 
Yeah.
 
Did they say "go storm the government" during their speeches?
 
One wonders why Yanukovic even allowed foreign politicians to enter the country.
@CowperKettle They did encourage a kind of rebellion, I believe?
 
Yanukovich initially wanted to sign an agreement with Europe, not with Russia.
 
6:25 PM
Yeah, I think that was part of the initial reason for the demonstrations?
 
@Cerberus By simply attending the crowd?
 
By giving speeches.
 
@Cerberus Yes, but the initial demonstrations would have petered out.
 
Against the government.
 
Yanukovich should have acted smarter.
 
6:25 PM
@CowperKettle Right, I don't know.
 
@Cerberus Dutch politicians spoke against the government while being inside Ukraine?
 
I believe so?
 
I don't know. I only started paying attention after Yanukovich fled :)
I was sure that this would be just another Ukrainian revolution, with nothing changing.
 
> Aangekomen op het Maidanplein zegt Verhofstadt tegen de menigte: "Er komt iedere week een nieuwe EU-delegatie hierheen tot jullie de strijd hebben gewonnen". Van Baalen vult hem aan: "We blijven bij jullie".
Belgian and Dutch politicians from the European government.
Amongst other Western politicians.
I believe some high American politicians also went to Maidan.
 
Let consider this bad, for simplicity's sake. I still don't understand why Yanukovich fled to Russia, not to Donetsk or to Crimea.
 
6:29 PM
I'm not saying it's bad.
But I do think the West got involved in the revolution.
As to how important the Western support was, I do not know.
 
I think it was the poverty after the fall of 2008-9.
Putin could have just let Ukraine be. The majority pro-Russia regions would have elected another pro-Russia leader.
He saw the opportunity and pounced at it.
 
You mean in 2014?
 
In February 2014, taking Crimea
 
Yeah, perhaps his fear was unjustified.
Then again, the association treaty with the EU was perhaps an important new factor in his thinking.
A sign that Ukraine was moving towards Europe in the long run.
 
And then he did not stop, despite the fact that demographically, villages in Eastern Ukraine were pro-Ukrainian. Trying to take Eastern UKraine was a recipe for civil war. Special Services should have told Putin so.
Special Services told Brezhnev that it would be a disaster to enter Afghanistan, but he was too senile.
Cities were pro-Russia, villages were pro-Ukrainian. And even in cities, many people were not for uniting with Russia, but just for Russian language to be official etc.
No wonder a bloodbath ensued.
 
6:35 PM
If you take the Crimea, then there will definitely be no more pro-Russian president elected in Kiev.
 
So Putin thought.
 
I wonder whether Putin could have moved on Kiev in 2014.
 
But statistics show, strangely, that the good feeling towards Russia was slowly on the rise until the end of 2021.
 
In the occupied territories, you mean?
 
No, in Ukraine proper.
Amazing.
 
6:37 PM
Hmm.
Well, it must have been a very slow rise, then?
 
I read up on it a year ago, and was amazed.
 
People just want to move on with their lives.
They don't want strife with a big, neighbouring country.
 
On 17 February 2022, 34% of Ukrainians said that they think good of Russia hromadske.ua/ru/posts/…
Two months before that, 39%
 
How was the question phrased, exactly, and is the organisation reliable?
 
War was approaching, so people started feeling fishy towards Russia.
@Cerberus I dunno, it's just a news report
 
6:39 PM
OK.
It seems a bit high.
 
The news report says, that in 2019, some 57% felt good about Russia, that was the peak of goodwill.
 
And does it include people from the occupied territories?
 
Then in 2020, Russia started its "military exercises", and it went down from 57% to 39%, then to 34%
@Cerberus No, it did not include them.
Dark blue - "I feel good towards Russia", a poll by Kyiev Sociology Institute levada.ru/2021/12/17/rossijsko-ukrainskie-otnosheniya-10
 
More Ukrainians were feeling good towards Russia than Russians towards Ukraine.
This despite the Crimea takeover and despite the war in the Donbass.
And Putin just blew it.
You've got to have a talent to just blow it.
 
6:49 PM
The winds they are so cold that I cannot stay without.
So roll me in your arms, love, and blow the candles out.
A birthday cake with a single candle is easy to blow.
 
7:08 PM
@CowperKettle An interestingly high number.
 
7:20 PM
"On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians" (Russian: Об историческом единстве русских и украинцев, romanized: Ob istoricheskom yedinstve russkikh i ukraintsev, Ukrainian: Про історичну єдність росіян та українців, romanized: Pro istorychnu yednist rosian ta ukraintsiv) is an essay by Russian president Vladimir Putin published on 12 July 2021.It was published shortly after the end of the first of two buildups of Russian forces preceding the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. In the essay, Putin describes his views on Ukraine and Ukrainians.According to RBK Daily, the essay...
 
 
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8:50 PM
The Niger uranium forgeries were forged documents initially released in 2001 by SISMI (the former military intelligence agency of Italy), which seem to depict an attempt made by Saddam Hussein in Iraq to purchase yellowcake uranium powder from Niger during the Iraq disarmament crisis. On the basis of these documents and other indicators, the governments of the United States and the United Kingdom asserted that Iraq violated United Nations sanctions against Iraq by attempting to procure nuclear material for the purpose of creating weapons of mass destruction. == Abbreviated timetable == The first...
Curious that this has not been translated for the Russian Wikipedia.
 

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