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Captain Bohemian

12:30 AM

are you tired?

Robusto

Follow the Science? Nonsense, I say.

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@Cerberus No idea about the fingerprints. I don't use them except to get into my phone.

CowperKettle

1:06 AM

Rogozin (head of Russian Space Agency) and Dmitry Medvedev, former Prime Minister

Mitch

1:21 AM

@CowperKettle cute

tchrist

3:41 AM

We had a million new cases in September, two million new cases in October, and four million new cases in November. Pretty sure Christmas will be a disaster.

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And that's already locked in now, thanks to Thanksgiving foolishness.

Cerberus

Hmm that is not good.

Perhaps the closing of schools will help a bit.

They're talking about adding a week to Christmas vacation (from two to three weeks) here.

@Robusto I use them to log into Lastpass, and to confirm sensitive log-ins (that normally require typing my master password).

tchrist

@Cerberus The kids in the dorms won't be returning. They're home for the rest of the term.

Cerberus

@Robusto Does it work well when filling in passwords in your browser?

@tchrist They are not at home now?

tchrist

@Cerberus They had not been. They are now.

College freshmen.

Cerberus

Since when?

Our kids don't live in dorms anyway, and universities have been online only, for the most past, since March.

tchrist

3:48 AM

Well, they haven't had in-person classes for quite a while, but they still lived in their freshman dorms. Till this past week.

Cerberus

I see.

What changed?

Policy?

National?

tchrist

They always planned this. They knew that they couldn't trust them.

Many universities require freshmen to live in the dorms.

@Cerberus There is no such thing as national policy here.

Cerberus

@tchrist Why?

@tchrist Poor Trump.

tchrist

> Some colleges argue that living on campus is critical for students, especially freshmen, because it allows them to fully participate in all of a school's activities, social networks and academic support while fully immersing the student in the school's culture.

@Cerberus sagu.edu/campus-life/top-10-reasons-to-live-on-campus

Cerberus

Hmm.

Universities are not seen as schools here.

But no schools require boarding here anyway, I think.

tchrist

3:52 AM

@Cerberus What do you mean?

No students?

What are they then?

Cerberus

Universities and schools are seen as different types of institutions.

tchrist

A college is a school. A university is a school.

Cerberus

Schools have pupils, universities students.

tchrist

You're misfocusing.

Cerberus

Not here, is what I'm talking about.

tchrist

3:54 AM

> in all of a school’s activities

Cerberus

So the idea of a university here is that you attend classes, but are otherwise independent.

tchrist

I'm sure you can translate that to Dutch however makes sense.

Cerberus

Our universities do have some extracurricular activities, but they are not important.

Incidentally, we don't use the word class with universities either, but rather college.

tchrist

Which is why you send your kids here. :)

> Like many universities, Georgetown requires freshmen to live in the dorms.

Cerberus

Who?

I'm not sending anyone...

tchrist

3:55 AM

Honestly, this is the most common case: if it's a big school with plenty of dorms, freshmen simply must live there. It's the rule.

Cerberus

When my Dutch friend attended an American university, he actually told me it felt rather schools in some ways.

tchrist

College life is its own thing. You can't be part of it out of a suitcase or a computer screen.

Cerberus

It's not a 'life' here.

tchrist

If you want to go to some night school, enjoy.

Cerberus

It's just a place where you learn and research.

tchrist

3:57 AM

Sounds like that terrible crap they call adult education, stuff at the county level.

"Community colleges".

Which aren't.

No community there.

Guess you don't have school spirit. What a shame.

Cerberus

We don't because we don't consider them schools, I suppose.

An entirely different philosophy of higher education.

tchrist

Fuck that school noise.

Cerberus

No, I think it may stand for something.

tchrist

It's not about that. You're fixating on stoodid werd.

Cerberus

We separate schools with pupils and classes from universities with students and colleges.

Whereas your universities and high schools share some aspects of community.

tchrist

4:00 AM

Any place you receive instruction is by definition a school.

To you!

Nope.

Not to us!

You've completely missed everything.

Cerberus

So have you.

So there we are.

Ready to change the subject.

tchrist

4:01 AM

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Cerberus

That's not polite.

I'm going to make borstplaat, I think.

tchrist

And it is slightly insulting.

Cerberus

That is a phantom.

But I've already changed the subject.

tchrist

You are belittling an American institution that means a great deal to a lot of people but which you know nothing about and think even less than nothing of.

So yes, it's made me cross.

Cerberus

I didn't.

Just said there were different philosophies.

tchrist

4:03 AM

"Oh it's just a big high school."

Whatever.

Cerberus

That is not at all what I said.

But, yeah, whatever.

skillpatrol

4:15 AM

Europe doesn't have the same strong connection to college sports that America has.

And that^ is where most of the "school spirit" comes from

tchrist

@skillpatrol Naw. Student unions aren't about that, although perhaps the Greek system is; can't say.

> Broadly speaking, the facility is devoted to student recreation and socialization. A student center or student union is the community center of the college, serving students, faculty, staff, alumni, and guests. A student activity center might offer a variety of programs, activities, services, and facilities.[11]

It may contain lounges, wellness centers, dining facilities or vendors, and entertainment venues. The student center is often the center of student affairs and activities and may house the offices of the student government or other student groups. It may also act as a small confe…

skillpatrol

Sure, there is a certain student unity in being apart of a student union :-)

But, America is about business and sports sells.

Mitch

4:32 AM

@Cerberus What's bortsplaat?

skillpatrol

Just look at the so called "lockdown" attempt of the NCAA.

Mitch

a plate of borscht?

skillpatrol

In fact, America is among the few countries that offer MBAs in the world!

Mitch

in other news, I only recently found out that 'in-box' zero meant only having all emails in your inbox as -not- unread, as opposed to having all emails deleted by end of day.

I think that means I'm old.

like living in the last millenium

@skillpatrol The US -invented- business

the business of the US is business

skillpatrol

Exactly.

Mitch

4:36 AM

Is there a PhD of MBA-ness?

tchrist

@Mitch mille anus ≠ mille annus

Mitch

like a DBA?

skillpatrol

nope

PhD in commerce

Mitch

then what credential do you need to be a prof at an MBA school?

economics is not the same as BA

skillpatrol

BCom

Mitch

4:37 AM

it's like saying you need a PhD in math to teach physics

@skillpatrol what is that?

skillpatrol

Commerce

They're all business schools

You can do business law too

LLD

Mitch

@tchrist A thousand aunts bellowing across primeval swamps.

@skillpatrol I've never heard of that in the US

...and battery down to 1%

skillpatrol

cya

tchrist

> Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D) said Saturday night that he and his partner have tested positive for the coronavirus and are isolating at home but “feeling well.” Polis said in a tweet that he and Marlon Reis are both asymptomatic. They learned of the results Saturday evening, according to the governor’s office.

skillpatrol

Business school

A business school is a university-level institution that confers degrees in business administration or management. According to Kaplan, business schools are "educational institutions that specialize in teaching courses and programs related to business and/or management". Such a school can also be known as school of management, management school, school of business administration, or colloquially b-school or biz school. A business school teaches topics such as accounting, administration, business analytics, strategy, economics, entrepreneurship, finance, human resource management, management science...

Robusto

4:53 AM

@Cerberus It is very slightly harder than saving passwords in your browser, since you have to hit the BW extension button in the address bar. But it remember which login is appropriate for which address so you don't have to go searching. Just click to proceed filling in the authentication.

tchrist

Why social distancing alone won't stop Covid from spreading

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skillpatrol

AAhh Choo

tchrist

I always knew that whole six-feet thing was useless.

skillpatrol

Wonder what it looks like while wearing a mask?

CowperKettle

5:59 AM

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Q: Is there a term for a blood pressure level that is too high but which is typical for the patient and causes no symptoms?

In Russian, there is a semi-colloquial medical term "рабочее давление" (working pressure) - the blood pressure that is excessive, but is typical for this particular patient and causes no symptoms in him/her. For instance, a person may have a blood pressure of 140/90 chronically yet feel nothing o...

Færd

9:52 AM

Philtrum

The philtrum (Latin: philtrum from Ancient Greek φίλτρον phíltron, lit. "love charm"), or medial cleft, is a vertical indentation in the middle area of the upper lip, common to many mammals, extending in humans from the nasal septum to the tubercle of the upper lip. Together with a glandular rhinarium and slit-like nostrils, it is believed to constitute the primitive condition for at least therian mammals. Monotremes lack a philtrum, though this could be due to the specialised, beak-like jaws in living species. == Function == In most mammals, the philtrum is a narrow groove that may carry dissolved...

How charming

Pluralized as philtrums? Philtra?

M.A.R.

12:30 PM

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Q: Is the "Kundalini awakening" a real neurophysiological phenomenon?

Lots of people have been uploading videos and sharing testimonials describing the symptoms they have experienced during episodes of what they commonly call the "Kundalini awakening". The Wikipedia article on Kundalini says the following on the matter: The Kuṇḍalinī experience is frequently repor...

neurology energy meditation spirituality

SmokeDetector

12:41 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username, offensive body detected, offensive title detected, potentially bad keyword in body, potentially bad keyword in title, +1 more (247): (potentially offensive title -- see MS for details) by Donald J. Trump on english.SE

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CowperKettle

12:56 PM

@Færd I first came across this word 20 years ago in the title of a story. "The Love-philtre of Ikey Schoenstein"

Word of the day: vortilon

Looks like there is a plateau of new cases in the USA. This is good, if true.

CowperKettle

1:23 PM

> BBV152 is comprised of a whole, inactive SARS-CoV-2 virus particles. Inactive viral vaccines are created by propagating viruses in cell culture (such as in Vero cells) and/or by inactivation using a chemical reagent (such as beta-propiolactone or formaldehyde). Upon vaccination, this allows the body to generate a diverse immune response against numerous viral antigens while having no threat of actually being infected because the virus is inactive.

Good.

Indian vaccine entered a phase III trial

Looks like there will be new results on two or three vaccines every month starting in December

CowperKettle

2:42 PM

The "Revolutionary Fasces of International Action", a manifest that gave birth to the fascist movement, was written by Olivetti, a Jew. The twists of fate.

CowperKettle

3:15 PM

Cerberus

3:46 PM

@Robusto Hmm are you talking about the Windows browser or Android?

In Windows, does it automatically fill in passwords, or do you need to press this button?

In Android, do you have to press this button inside Chrome? Or what browser do you use?

@Mitch A very sweet confectionery, made of sugar and water or cream.

Borstplaat (snoepgoed)

Borstplaat (ook: suikergoed) is een snoepgoed gemaakt uit water of melk, suiker en een smaakstof, zoals vanille of cacao. Borstplaat wordt voornamelijk gegeten in de periode rond Sinterklaas. In de tijd dat suiker in Nederland alleen nog gemaakt werd van suikerriet, dat ver weg groeide en met schepen opgehaald moest worden, was suiker een duur product. Het werd dan ook alleen gebruikt bij groots gevierde feesten, zoals bruiloften of het sinterklaasfeest. Gespecialiseerde banketbakkers zorgden ervoor dat de suiker verwerkt werd tot suikerbeesten, hartjes enzovoort. == Oorsprong == De allereerste...

CowperKettle

4:26 PM

The adjective for Metal is metallic. But not so for Iron, which is ironic.

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Nihar Karve

5:13 PM

@CowperKettle What's with the dip around Christmas?

Færd

5:36 PM

@CowperKettle Well, that's a close cognate.

Actually I have no idea what the dimple has to do with love potions.

Mitch

@NiharKarve I'd guess (because I don't know) that it's because it is one holiday that everybody consistently gets in the UK and usually with family, and even if you're feeling bad you tend not to go to the emergency room or you deny there is a problem... until early January once family has left.

Sort of the same as in the US. Also in the US, emergency room visits plummet on the day of the Super Bowl until right after the game ends, when visits skyrocket.

The dip in the graph is very consistent so there is very likely a consistent cause. But I'm just guessing.

Python is cool

Hello guys. Nice to meet you

CowperKettle

5:55 PM

waves

CowperKettle

6:11 PM

sighs

CowperKettle

6:36 PM

Captain Bohemian

I am sleepy

CowperKettle

6:51 PM

I am creepy

CowperKettle

7:06 PM

> Little Mermaid needed a tutor because her grades were under the C

M.A.R.

8:16 PM

Hi sleepy and creepy!

audience laughter

@Pythoniscool Howdy, welcome to the Multi-discourse layered room

Started reading Dune

It's pretty great, just finished book 1 one book one.

But can't say it doesn't feel weird with all the mingled labels I always associated with very different things.

Lisan Al Gaib is Hafez, one of the most renowned Iranians poets

But Mahdi is a religious figure, the 12th Imam, that Shia believe will rise when the world is so corrupt people have lost faith in all the other ways they could fix humanity

Something like that.

And, till now, some of the Arrakeen sayings are eerily close to Quran verses, and some are just pseudo-profound spiritual rants

It feels, not inconsistent, because of course it's just labels, but something like it.

Or maybe I would feel the same unease if I read interstellar fiction with very different people named Merkel and Macron

@M.A.R. book 1 of book one

Self-ruined joke

Mitch

9:00 PM

@CowperKettle There's most likely going to be a 'Thanksgiving bump' in a couple weeks in the US (because of families getting together despite public health recommendations).

Also, there are individual states (at least Arizona) in the US that will have within the next two weeks a public health crisis because at the moment ICU beds are filled and any increase in corona will overflow the hospital, not only making it harder to treat corona virus patients, but patients of all kinds.

The statement I heard was that imminently it will be like a forest fire going through a populated area with no evacuation. (not 'no evacuation plan' of which there have always been plans, but 'no evacuation done')

@M.A.R. I think that was all entirely intentional. Supposedly Herbert had been involved in some ecological research (?) in Algeria, and picked up a lot of Islamic things.

But the pseudo-profound anything is par for the course in scifi.

M.A.R.

9:51 PM

@Mitch it probably will never stop feeling unusual for me. Is this what Africans and East Asians feel when western authors grab random cool-sounding names from their languages to incorporate in a sci-fi novel? shrug

Mitch

10:25 PM

@M.A.R. Yes.

It's like hearing a foreigner imitate your accent in their language. It's this cringe inducing 'I sort of recognize that but it sounds awful when it's wrong and it sounds awful when it's right'

@M.A.R. That said, I think Black Panther was an exception in that they tried really hard to be authentic East African (as much as the prior Stan Lee invented vocab would allow).

For English, maybe that's why cribbing from Germanic sources (like for LotR and Game of Thrones) is 'ok' because no one is around to complain, and if any fun of is being made, it's of ancestors?

Cerberus

11:42 PM

@M.A.R. I understand the feeling.

When you know enough about a certain culture, borrowings from it may appear hideously incongurous.

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