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12:12 AM
nobody replies you in Facebook.
if money is difficult to get, we should argue for it.
it is strange that the dormitory administrator is harsh in asking money from the residents
since the residents are students
 
12:31 AM
@RegDwigнt Most odd. I haven't seen any of those here.
We do have various money-laundry shops, but it's not so easy to identify them, as they are usually types of shops that could be functional. You need to look how busy they are to tell, I think.
 
12:57 AM
@Cerberus I mean thank you for lots of info, but I"m afraid I was not following!
I just transliterated to Russian and moved on with my translation ))
Non-human electoral candidates have been found in a number of countries. Often, the candidacies are a means of casting a protest vote or satirizing the political system. At other times it is simply done for entertainment value. Electoral regulations may explicitly require candidates to be human (or equivalent wording), or they may require candidates to do things which animals cannot reasonably do (such as sign their names legibly on legal forms); most constituencies require candidates to be of the age of a legal adult, which eliminates many animals whose life expectancies usually make them too...
Hank the Cat, a Maine Coon from Northern Virginia, ran against Tim Kaine and George Allen for Virginia's Senate seat in 2012. He earned third place in the state, with nearly 7,000 votes
> In March 2019, a 3-year-old Nubian goat named Lincoln was elected mayor of Fair Haven, Vermont, defeating a Samoyed dog named Sammie by two votes.[21][22]
 
1:35 AM
if money is difficult to get, we should bargain for it.
 
1:49 AM
@CaptainBohemian And we do; that’s what wage negotiations, from the most informal to the most elaborate, are all about.
 
2:37 AM
yesterday, by Robusto
I did like Massachusetts for the fact that the population is in general smarter and better educated than most of the rest of the country.
I spent 27 years there and it was great being around so many smart people. I gave up on the winters, though, and not being able to ride year-round.
On the plus side, NM is on the plus side. Meaning it is well above the mean.
 
What gets me is how closely those red and blue hues map to the vote.
It's not perfect. But it's undeniably reminiscent.
 
2:53 AM
@tchrist Not merely coincidence.
 
I keep remembering how any plan that relies upon having smarter <WHATEVER> to succeed is doomed to fail.
 
And Georgia is the best educated of the Southern states. Which is not coincidence either.
My brother-in-law is a department chair at Georgia Tech, btw.
 
Abrams did a huge amount of footwork there, preparing them and driving them. So did John Lewis.
And this well may be John McCain's Last Laugh in Arizona.
 
How sweet it is.
 
His wife has worked hard there for Biden.
 
2:58 AM
All you need to know about McCain:
 
Today the FAA instituted airspace restrictions over wherever Biden is.
 
Yeah, I know. Back when you could find not only ethics but honor in that party.
 
@tchrist And he got the deluxe Secret Service continegent.
 
Romney still has ethics. I can't say about the rest.
I have this feeling that the FAA didn't do this at Trump's direction. Or even knowledge.
 
2:59 AM
@tchrist I wouldn't give you much for Romney's ethics. He has ethics when it doesn't matter, which is not the same thing as ethics.
 
I know what you mean.
But no other sitting Republican has come out as strongly as Romney about what Trump is trying to do right now. And they everyone of them should.
 
Think about the poor Republicans now. With Trump gone, whose ass are they shamelessly going to kiss?
 
Still Trump's.
They still fear him.
 
Prolly.
 
They still fear his murderous mob.
 
3:02 AM
BTW, we had record Covid cases today. 1,287 new cases. That's a record.
We will likely go on lockdown soon.
 
67 new cases in my county alone, which shatters the previous record.
 
I don't know what today was. Yesterday we had over 200 new cases registered in Boulder County, and 2 new deaths.
 
How the fuck could 70 million people vote for that bloated excrescence?
 
He told them that the virus isn't real.
They simply believe whatever he tells them.
I vocally focused on the horror you speak of in this chat room last night. It didn't end well.
 
3:07 AM
@tchrist How did it not end well?
 
Tears.
 
Who here was taking the opposite side?
 
No one.
Just my own awareness of evil overcame me.
 
Understandable.
 
3:13 AM
Anderson had it better.
 
All indicators are improving here.
 
> Anderson Cooper: Trump's like an 'obese turtle on his back flailing in the hot sun realizing his time is over'.
 
Ah.
One wonders whether he does realise it.
 
It's like Mad King Aerys II screaming BURN THEM ALL! when his city was about to fall to the rebel forces. Or Denethor trying to burn Faramir upon his own suicide-funeral pyre when he thought Minas Tirith was about to fall.
bier pyre, you know what I meant
Biden's team is going to have to sandblast the entire inside of the White House before picking out new drapes.
 
There is a stink on the White House now that may never be cleansed.
 
3:22 AM
Once there was a cancer upon the Presidency. This? This I have no word for.
 
Nixon's cancer didn't kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.
 
This is truly the worst president in history.
 
Mass murderers become history's monsters.
 
4:13 AM
Why do they not keep their distance from each other? That is no 1.5 metres.
And with mouth caps, even.
Dutch mainstream politicians would never do such a thing in public, I think.
Distance is far more important than mouth caps.
If caps are treated as a substitute for distance, that is a big problem.
And touching hands is also taboo here.
I don't understand it.
Of course nobody's perfect; but at an important, short, rehearsed political event?
 
Typical mindless politics.
After they touch hands, they wipe their face.
The trump/Covid generation
 
4:38 AM
> Far from closing the book on the last four years, even if there is a change of incumbent in the White House, this election threatens to confirm and entrench the poisonous status quo.
 
5:30 AM
@Robusto We are also very high. I went to the dentist and she said we'd better postspone treatment for 2 weeks because three dentists from the clinic caught covid, and the clinic might get closed any day.
 
6:18 AM
@Cerberus I guess no more than any other engrish on T-shirts
 
7:02 AM
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7:54 AM
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8:52 AM
> Wiener was born in Columbia, Missouri, the first child of Leo Wiener and Bertha Kahn, Jewish[4] immigrants from Poland and Germany, respectively. Through his father, he was related to Maimonides, the famous rabbi, philosopher and physician from Al Andalus, as well as to Akiva Eger, chief rabbi of Posen from 1815 to 1837.
Wow, Wiener was a descendant of Rambam
 
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12:05 PM
@Xanne what about dormitory fee negotiation?
 
12:45 PM
 
1:06 PM
as aforementioned
 
1:27 PM
food is a difficult thing especially in western countries - no hot food is generally served in shops
 
1:39 PM
@CaptainBohemian I hate it that they don't serve hot steamed hams
 
2:01 PM
in eastern Asia, hot food is served in shops everywhere
 
2:11 PM
@CowperKettle That sucks.
 
 
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4:34 PM
I was taking a look at a scholarship opportunity that is offered as two types, "Doctoral INPhINIT - Incoming", and "Doctoral INPhINIT - Retaining". My question is I am confused to understand the words "Incoming" and "Retaining.
Maybe, retaining means someone already enrolled in a program?
 
@EnthusiastiC Looks like this, but being not part of the acamedic world, I will abstain from being totally confirmative.
 
I will e-mail them for clarification.
 
@CowperKettle The fat lady has sung: Ite, missa est.
 
Habemus a dominus.
 
...For the smoke that escaped the Conclave was snow white, not wildfire orange.
THEY ARE HOWLING OUTSIDE HERE!
@Robusto Before @Cerberus toasts you, that would be habemus dominum in the Latin accusative, not an accusative-marking "a"+nominative as in Spanish.
 
4:50 PM
@tchrist OK, I was just remembering church Latin from my schooldays.
Now that I think of it, it was dominum.
I was just trying to remember the end of the Mass, which you initiated.
I probably should just have said sursum corda, given the news that has just broken.
 
@CowperKettle Wilfred Owen. I wonder if this is about a military hospital.
 
@tchrist Actually, now that I think on it a bit more, the actual response to "Ite missa est" is "Deo gratias."
 
@CowperKettle Do you have a favorite poet?
 
Sometimes it's hard to remember things you stopped hearing nearly six decades ago.
But anyway, in other news, ALL THE REAL NETWORKS ARE CALLING THE ELECTION FOR BIDEN!
 
5:06 PM
@Robusto No longer.
 
@FaheemMitha John Keats, Wilfred Owen, Edna Millay, Theodore Roethke. And G.M. Hopkins, who is absolutely in his own league.
 
@CowperKettle How about Housman? He seems like be would be to your taste.
 
Fox just called Nevada AND Pennsylvania for Biden.
 
5:24 PM
@FaheemMitha Housman is a great poet!
> If death and time are stronger,
A love may yet be strong;
The world will last for longer,
But this will last for long.
 
Not sure whether it was this morning's Philadelphia tranch or the Pittsburgh one that pushed Biden over the 0.5% margin needed to stave off a mandatory recount in Pennsylvania, but clearly Reginald found Philadelphia scanned better.
 
5:39 PM
Looks like there was another covid superspreader event at the White House on Tuesday: six more WH folks have tested positive, including Meadows who was everywhere breathing the virus on everybody. Fauci has refused to go to the White House for many weeks now, citing the rampant infection there.
 
6:16 PM
@tchrist Looks like Biden will finish with 306.
 
7:09 PM
@Robusto Trump called that particular figure a landslide in 2016.
SURVEY SAYS: In today’s English, the name of the god Thoth from Egyptian mythology most commonly rhymes with: swath, moth, oath, tooth, loathe, smooth, baht, rot, wrought, wrote, foot, or hoot. Pick any and all that apply, or say that none do so.
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PBS has been streaming the spontaneous jubilant crowd celebrating with wild abandon in Black Lives Matter Plaza for two hours straight now. No wonder the imminently-ex President fled to a secluded isle of irreality.
 
@tchrist Moth.
 
@Robusto Yeah, me too. In the 2016 film Gods of Egypt, Horus (played by Danish actor Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) addresses Thoth (played by American actor Chardwick Boseman) as [tʰoθ], which surprised me a great deal.
Perhaps it is similar to how UK sloth ~ both versus US sloth ~ moth, but the /θ/ > /t/ at the start was if anything an even greater surprise. Historically Greek letters Latinized as ph or th were aspirated plosives not the fricatives of today.
 
7:30 PM
@tchrist Yes. I was wondering about that too. Just this morning I wondered if Sappho was pronounced in Greek with a dental or a bilabial fricative—or something else. Combination of plosive and fricative?
 
@Robusto I think, without looking it up, that it was [ˈsɑp.pʰo] with a "geminated" (long or "doubled") plosive consonant split between syllables, with the second one aspirated. But that’s just a WYSIWYG interpretation that may be far removed from reality. @Cerberus ?
== Ancient Greek == === Alternative forms === Ψάπφω (Psápphō) – Aeolic Σάφφω (Sáphphō) === Etymology === According to Beekes, maybe from Pre-Greek due to the presence of the cluster "-πφ-". === Pronunciation === === Proper noun === Σαπφώ • (Sapphṓ) f (genitive Σαπφοῦς); third declension Sappho ==== Inflection ==== ==== Descendants ==== === References === Σαπφώ in Liddell & Scott (1940) A Greek–English Lexicon, Oxford: Clarendon Press Woodhouse, S. C. (1910) English–Greek Dictionary: A Vocabulary of the Attic Language‎[1], London: Routledge & Kegan Paul Limited, page 1,024 ...
Says /sapʰ.pʰɔ̌ː/ → /sapˈɸo/ → /sapˈfo/
And that's an open o originally that became close o later on.
 
Hmm. But is the last consonant dental or bilabial? or aspirated from the π onward?
 
/ɸ/ in IPA is the voiceless bilabial fricative. It also occurred in the transition of Spanish and Gascon's leading f- that disappeared: /f/ > /ɸ/ > ∅.
So it was never dental.
Oh I know how to explain /ɸ/ to you. It's just the unvoiced version of the standard voiced bilabial approximant /β/ that occurs in Spanish cabo, uva.
 
I suspected so, even though know that's all it is today in English: Sappho has become Saffo.
@tchrist OK, that helps.
 
> GOP Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah) congratulated President-elect Joe Biden after he was projected to win the White House race over President Trump. “Ann and I extend our congratulations to President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris. We know both of them as people of good will and admirable character. We pray that God may bless them in the days and years ahead,” Romney tweeted, referring to his wife.
I sure hope he's got SS protection.
 
7:47 PM
@tchrist Who, Romney?
 
Yeah, that kind of language may trigger the berserkers.
Coming as it does from "their" "side".
 
Yeah, well, I wouldn't worry too much about that. I'm sure he has some form of protection.
 
This would be a good time for Bush to make a similar statement.
@Robusto The Mormons never did cotton to Trump, so he’s probably fine in Utah. They prefer "people of good will and admirable character".
 
@tchrist So then why did 58.7% of them vote for Trump?
That's just Utah. Mormons are heavy in Idaho as well, which went even harder for Trump.
 
 
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10:37 PM
@tchrist Are you glad it's over? @Robusto
 
@Cerberus I think there's a little pain left, but thankfully that has a terminus date.
 
@tchrist I think that's probably correct, but I'm not expert on pronunciation, and there is much we don't know about the pronunciation of Ancient Greek.
 
I think Iranians followed US election news more closely than the average American.
 
@Robusto Let's hope the people around him will stop executing his stupid stuff, now that they know there is no future with him.
 
@Færd Perhaps, but that would mean they watched it around the clock. It's been really hard to avoid here.
@Cerberus Well, but these are Republicans we're talking about. There is no debasement too low for them to stoop to.
 
10:42 PM
Many Republicans have opposed Trump.
 
@Robusto Yeah pretty much. The many who were interested did.
A 10-fold fall in the currency value during the past 4 years. No joke. Your elections could have reverberations over here as strong as in your own country. If not stronger.
Sucks that the world is working like that. But let's save the bitterness for another time.
 
@Færd The Iranian currency fell by 90%?
 
Roundabouts
 
I wasn't aware of that. But it's of a piece with Trump's ham-fisted meddling all across the board.
 
Well, he was especially disastrous for us. The Saudi and the Israeli governments liked him well, along with Bolsonaro and a bunch of other fuckers.
As for people, yeah, I think he was more disastrous for everybody.
 
10:48 PM
@Færd He never met a dictator he didn't like.
 
Yeah other US presidents are a bit pickier with their dictators.
 
Heh.
@Færd I'm not saying the US has been a supporter of democracy through the years. Obviously it hasn't. But let's hope this change of government brings better cooperation among all countries of good will. Maybe that's a Pollyanna-ish viewpoint, I dunno. But I do hope we can.
 
@Robusto Let's. :)
 
11:06 PM
I've been watching Fox News for days.
The News seems acceptable.
They do give Giuliani a lot of airtime.
Although they do offer reasonable criticism of his fanciful allegations.
 
> Fox’s coverage became notably split earlier this week. The so-called news side of Fox, which is anchored in its daytime programming with conservative but not delusional journalists like Chris Wallace and Bret Baier, has done a generally straight-up job of reporting the results.
> But the primetime hosts at Fox News, especially Sean Hannity, who also functions as a nonofficial adviser to Trump, did not move as quickly to change their pro-Trump cheerleading. Thursday night’s episode of Hannity’s show was particularly egregious, with such guests as Texas Sen.
 
Yes, that is also what I observed.
 
The article attributes it to them trying to "dodge backlash" and Murdoch inner-family disagreements.
 
Hmm.
I remember a Murdoch recently left the family business.
> And this has led to unusually direct scrutiny of the Murdoch family, whose name has not usually been mentioned in the many years and fountains of media criticism of their network.
??
 
11:34 PM
"the many years and fountains of media criticism" sounds like a failed attempt at succinctness.
 
@Færd But Murdoch is always mentioned as the evil owner of Fox and the countless other media in the Anglo-Saxon world.
I really don't see why they should say "not usually".
 
@Cerberus Jubilant fails to describe it.
 
@Cerberus I think they are, but not usually on CNN, MSNBS, and other mainstream Democrat-leaning US networks. They're always railing at Fox and its anchors and hosts, not usually the Murdochs.
Until recently. At least that's my experience.
@tchrist Congrats.
 
@tchrist I am glad for you.
Both fires threatening you seem to have been muffled, for the moment.
@Færd Okay. I do not watch those channels normally.
I still wonder how many infections these celebrations will cause.
We saw that protests here did not seem to cause many.
But all those people shouting and standing so closely together seems wildly incongruous with their mouth caps.
 
Indoor gatherings are more dangerous.
 
11:48 PM
At least the caps help to contain the effect of shouting somewhat.
@Færd Yes.
 

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