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> Origin: A borrowing from Latin. Etymon: Latin alethiologia.

Etymology: < post-classical Latin alethiologia (1764, after German Alethiologie ( J. H. Lambert Neues Organon (1764)) < post-classical Latin alethia (late 2nd or early 3rd cent. in Tertullian) or its etymon ancient Greek ἀλήθεια truth ( < ἀληθής true (see note) + -εία -y suffix3) + post-classical Latin -ologia -ology comb. form.

Ancient Greek ἀληθής is < ἀ- a- prefix6 + either Hellenistic Greek λῆθος , (Doric) λᾶθος (neuter) forgetfulness (although this is apparently first attested later), or perhaps the corresponding feminine
ἀλήθεια: Not to be confused with aletaster.
Sʜʀᴇᴡᴅ winds and shrill—were these the speech of May?
   A ragged, slag-grey sky—invested so,
   Mary’s spoilt nursling! wert thou wont to go?
      Or 𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒖, Sun-god and song-god, say
Could singer pipe one tiniest linnet-lay,
   While Song did turn away his face from song?
         Or who could be
   In spirit or in body hale for long,—
      Old Æsculap’s best Master!—lacking thee?
         At length, then, thou art here!
         On the earth’s lethèd ear
   Thy voice of light rings out exultant, strong;
Through dreams she stirs and murmurs at that summons dear:
      From its red leash my heart strains tamelessly,
For Spring leaps in the womb of the young year!
Meseems On the earth’s lethèd ear rarely wrought.
Francis Joseph Thompson · Sister-songs · 1895.
> And blent in supersubtile interplay
As if they swooned into each other’s arms;
Repured vermilion,
Like ear-tips ’gainst the sun;
And beings that, under night’s swart pinion,
Make every wave upon the harbour-bars
A beaten yolk of stars.
Vermilion / pinion
 
 
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2:55 AM
@tchrist My paternal grandmother lived through the first influenza epidemic in 1918 (we have a letter from her to her sister talking about the quarantines and crowd control) only to die three years later in another one.
 
@Robusto My maternal grandmother, youngest of 13, was born in 1919.
 
It's a really interesting letter, and introduced me to her as a real person with wit and charm and enduring love. I still have it.
The thing is, we don't write letters anymore, and nobody is going to read our emails or chat comments 100 years from now, much less treasure them.
 
I cannot for the life of me find any account matching her tales of quarantine from the Twenties in the Janesville area of south-central Wisconsin.
 
@tchrist My wife's mother was born in 1919, and she's still alive.
 
@Robusto No, we unwitting build a new Dark Ages to hide our digital age in.
 
2:58 AM
@tchrist Hers was a coal-mining community in southern Illinois. In a town of 2,000 people they were having two or three funerals a week during the epidemic.
 
We may yet see that.
 
I fear it may be inevitable. If not from this threat then from another.
 
The mortality rate among the young will not be "very" high, less than 1% and negligible among the oh-very-young.
But it climbs steadily after the great hump, rising to at least one soul in six by the time they reach eighty, and that figure is further compounded by any and all of cancer, diabetes, heart disease, COPD.
 
Of course.
And the rest will merely wish they were dead.
 
The rich world may stave off some of the worst of it simply by the treasure spent on intensive hospitalization. But in the dark of Africa, even Asia, it will be far worse.
 
3:02 AM
When someone says they think they had the flu I ask: "When you woke up in the morning did you feel like you'd been beaten with a chain?" And if they answer in the negative I say, "Then it wasn't the flu."
 
That's right. Most people are full of bullshit arrant nonsense when it comes to such things.
My stepdad had the flu when I visited week before last. Or at least some dreadful URI that sent his fever over 101 for a week, and he could barely move.
My mother seems to have had it the week previous, but it never gave her fever, and she got over it faster. And she's a recovering cancer AND stroke patient. But she is also older than he is, and may have been exposed to a close relative of this in some earlier age time when he was not.
I have not taken ill.
 
Nor have I, but I don't really socialize much except for my club rides, and that's outdoors except for coffee stops.
When I get that sick sleep never comes to rescue me. I can't even read.
 
I know what that's like.
I can well become "not drivable".
 
Yeah.
 
102+ fever and I'm gone.
 
3:07 AM
I would go to urgent care at that point.
 
Yes, that's the figure.
The cutoff point for me.
That's why I kept checking his fever, because Mom can't drive after the "minor" stroke, nor walk around unassisted. So I needed to be there to drive him to the doctor if he couldn't do so himself.
 
Yes.
 
I spoke with her brother tonight about the coronavirus thing again. He's not working on the problem directly, just now in a safety-board oversight role, but he gets daily updates in the exploding field. He's most worried about Africa.
He has some involvement in making sure the new experimental vaccine work for it is tested properly, is all. I still think he works much much too much for his nominal retirement. At least he doesn't have to teach classes any longer.
 
Well, if North America sneezes Africa gets the flu.
 
And we'll be getting a 20x flu.
 
3:12 AM
Thanks, China.
 
Twenty percent of the people who get this need hospitalization to keep them alive. That is not going to happen in Africa.
 
No.
And I'm sure a lot will die because they take too much acetaminophen when they get it.
 
Neal also mentioned Pakistan being a concern.
@Robusto I simply do not understand those people.
It looks like there's unchecked community spread in Korea and Iran now, possibly just getting started in Italy.
You can't stop something that is as easy to spread as this is.
Not really.
 
Apparently not.
 
First, people are spreading it who don't have any symptoms at all.
Second, sometimes the symptoms are mild, or they don't present as an URI just some unflulike nausea.
Third, we're only checking people who say they were in China.
You aren't catching people infected by folks who don't know they have it and who had no known Chinese contacts.
 
3:19 AM
Maybe it's just because I'm getting old, but I really feel like the world is going to hell in most respects. It's hard to salvage any optimism at all.
 
It appears to be about twice as transmissible as most forms of influenza, and perhaps twenty times as deadly.
@Robusto With you on all that.
Mistakes have been made.
Probably still are. And certainly still shall be.
The race now is to get a vaccine before it gets here in force.
Or gets to Africa, of course.
Because it's likely going to be with us essentially forever.
 
Yeah. One more thing we have to get vaccinated for at the very best.
 
Yes.
I seem to get poked a lot lately.
Flu. Pneumonia. Tetanus and Pertussis. Rabies.
 
A guy I ride with had the double shot vaccination for pneumonia a couple years ago but in a few months he contracted double pneumonia and nearly died.
 
That vaccination isn't for all possible forms of pneumonia.
 
3:23 AM
So nothing is certain.
No, but they do recommend it like it's a done deal if you get it.
 
For example, the reason coronavirus kills is because it gives you pneumonia.
 
Well, there you go. Do the vaccinations for pneumonia count for anything in a coronavirus case? I bet we don't have any idea.
 
No, they do not.
> Pneumococcal Vaccination Vaccines help prevent pneumococcal disease, which is any type of illness caused by Streptococcus pneumoniae bacteria.
No corona virus is a bacterium.
 
True.
 
Let alone Streptococcus pneumoniae, which is the specific pathogen they're vaccinating you against.
 
3:27 AM
Yeah. Just what I thought.
So as much fun as this subject is to talk about, I have to be up early for a 50-mile ride in a 20-mph wind, so I need to stop thinking about these things so I can get some sleep. ^_^
Stay healthy.
 
Requiescat in pacem.
 
Ow.
 
Sleep peacefully?
 
 
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Q: What does Nietzsche’s “a monstrosity 𝒑𝒆𝒓 𝒅𝒆𝒇𝒆𝒄𝒕𝒖𝒎” mean?

vijayprasanna13I was reading through Nietzsche’s The Birth of Tragedy and I came across the Latin phrase per defectum. What does it mean? The sentence goes as follows: In Socrates, instinct becomes the critic, consciousness the creator — a monstrosity per defectum!

So now we also translate Latin by default here?
@Cerberus Would migration be in order here?
He hasn't tried at all, of course.
 
4:53 AM
I don't think it should be migrated. And I do think he should show us what he tried.
 
 
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11:44 AM
a little monday puzzle
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Q: The syntax of 'a mere one stroke'

JK2 However, Bryson DeChambeau seized the lead by the end of Friday's second round and was a mere one stroke ahead of Reed and Erik van Rooyen. (From Bleacher Report) It seems that a here is not a normal indefinite article because it doesn't seem to determine the head noun stroke. Note that a ...

 
 
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1:26 PM
@MattE.Эллен Hello! I have a little doubt! Could you please help me (if you're free) ?
 
1:50 PM
@user8718165 Is it that you doubt the existence of eternity?
I fear we aren't specialists in eschatology here.
 
2:43 PM
Me, I have serious doubts about tachyons, neutralinos, gravitons, and cryptonomicons.
Also, garden gnomes.
 
 
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6:24 PM
@MattE.Эллен When a liveried car service finally decides they have to can their worst driver and send him packing for good, would it be better to deliver the guy or to delivery him?
 
7:24 PM
I'm actually quite clear on what you're doing: you are writing an app that will let me do all sorts of malicious things to your device simply by sending you an email with the subject "Click me". That is very convenient. — RegDwigнt ♦ 21 hours ago
@RegDwigнt Yes something like that. — Filip 5 hours ago
Haha.
Well, someone has a sense of humour.
Or maybe as per usual my writing wasn't quite penetrable.
@user8718165 simply post your question. That's what this room is for.
@tchrist I doubt you have doubts.
You're a man of strong opinions. Especially about garden gnomes.
 
@RegDwigнt They're hidden in the cryptognomicons.
 
7:40 PM
I have a lot of gnome icons on my desktop.
Even though I work in KDE.
 
Kant display everything.
 
Oh, is that what it stands for? That explains a lot.
Every OS update, some of the icons on my desktop go missing.
Like, they are still there. They are just not displayed.
 
@tchrist Hmm translation requests are the only genre for which we require that you "show what you have tried"; but I believe that only applies from English to Latin. So I suspect it might be on topic on the Latin site. But he deleted it anyway, so perhaps we shall let sleeping dogs lie?
 
By now I'm just used to clicking on an empty space to open the text editor.
You wouldn't know it's there. But it is.
 
Time for a new computer?
 
7:48 PM
No, time for not a new computer for once.
They keep changing the machine every couple years.
And I keep saying fuck off leave me alone, at least I've memorized where all the empty spaces are.
 
@Cerberus oh ok. In Spanish "por defecto" can actually mean "by default". I was trying to decide whether the Latin bit in the old law book about not having an heir was using it that way.
 
One time I switched to a night theme to adapt our software for it.
After that I immediately switched back to the light theme.
In one single application, the dark theme didn't go away.
 
You have issues.
 
Still persists to this day. Through several OS updates and a machine change.
I do not know how they do it, but they do.
 
So this is your computer at work, not at home?
You have Windows at home, do you not?
 
7:51 PM
Well I don't use KDE under Windows, silly dog.
 
Did you read my questions?
 
What? Who is this?
Also what's with those flags of completely inoccuous things in Russian.
Also, what's with my spelling of innocuous.
 
8:13 PM
@RegDwigнt How could we know? You're the Russian, not us.
@RegDwigнt Answer.
 
 
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9:16 PM
@RegDwigнt Zwarte Piet never really goes away, does he? You think he's gone, but then he turns up again like a bad penny every Weihnachtszeit.
@Cerberus So do magazines.
And what is all this KDE talk? You people seem to have a relentless fascination with the Kentucky Department of Education.
And you should stop it right now.
 
9:55 PM
@Robusto So they do.
> The organisation is working on a new website. John and Elsa are in the lead.
Does this make sense to you, as meaning "John and Elsa are leading the effort"?
I don't like it.
 

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