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12:23 AM
@Mazura Alea jacta est.
1:15 AM
@tchrist I'm totally on the fence as to whether I should support this. But looking at the logic, I can't help but sleep in the bed that I've made (aside from the fact I think it's gone on long enough). So be it.
1:30 AM
@MikeEdenfield thank you.
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2:32 AM
A: Why does "ow" have two different sounds

sumelicThe words now and snow have never rhymed in the history of English. Both of them are native English words; they did not come into English from Dutch or German. (Rather, English, Dutch and German all descend from a common ancestor, Proto-Germanic; that is why these three languages have similar wor...

Upvote please.
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9:03 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: eh forget it, fucking hate these communities for a reason, dick by Anonymous on english.stackexchange.com
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11:16 AM
@MattE.Эллен: I edited the controversial "Are we getting tense" question to include a link to the recent ELU Blog article.
oh, great! thanks :D
11:45 AM
Interesting to note that none of the example include "I have been eaten", or "I will have been eaten".
What's the difference between survey and questionnaire?
The question exists on main, but the answers don't seem that reliable to me
Q: Survey vs. Questionnaire?

withkareWhat is the difference between a survey and a questionnaire? Which word would be more appropriate in a report?

@MattE.Эллен No chickens or pigs will find it exhaustive in that case.
@Robusto I hope they don't ever learn English...
@Gigili you don't questionnaire the land
all questionnaires are surveys. not all surveys are questionnaires
Animal Farm is an allegorical and dystopian novella by George Orwell, first published in England on 17 August 1945. According to Orwell, the book reflects events leading up to the Russian Revolution of 1917 and then on into the Stalin era in the Soviet Union. Orwell, a democratic socialist, was a critic of Joseph Stalin and hostile to Moscow-directed Stalinism, an attitude that was critically shaped by his experiences during the Spanish Civil War. The Soviet Union, he believed, had become a brutal dictatorship, built upon a cult of personality and enforced by a reign of terror. In a letter to Yvonne...
Too late.
12:00 PM
> All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
@MattE.Эллен OK, but they both are a type of form of short questions seeking for short answers. Right?
@Gigili no
for example, people get their houses surveyed, by surveyors. this is not a questionnaire
geological surveys are not questionnaires
The word "survey" has a much broader meaning of looking over something, while a questionnaire only concerns questions.
12:19 PM
Oh that makes... sense
Thank you @Matt
no problems
ELU has an opportunity to get its first Reversal badge.
how backwards is that :P
The most backwards.
@Matt: What are you doing to celebrate the Queen's longest-ever living monarchy?
12:38 PM
Sweet FA. Did she turn up to my birthday? No. So why should I do anything for her?
Sweet FAs are in season now. Enjoy them while they're ripe
@Robusto Isn't there a shorter term for standing on the pedals (when going up hill), an English equivalent of French "en danseuse"?
"Five things you can do in London to celebrate Queen Elizabeth's historic reign
1. The Thames"
@crl I've always called it "honking" up the hill.
I can do the Thames?
12:40 PM
I've done the thames
@MattE.Эллен If you can't, you're not a true Englishman, I guess.
It's not particularly comfortable
5 things that fill out a piece of screen real estate that makes the advertisers pay you and brings users eyes to the site having absolutely nothing connected with reality, and effing Queen of England!
No effing ER2 in this chat.
12:43 PM
I have nothing for or against the QofE. I'm sure she's a something something girl (botched Beatles reference)
But she doesn't have a lot to say.
It's better that way. People talk too much.
@Robusto nice thanks
she's a day tripper
@crl En danseuse is a little too fruity, IMO.
12:46 PM
I mean if the monarchy was abolished then what would we do? We'd still complain about that pothole in front of ur house...well our neighbors but we pass by it.
@Robusto hehe, what do you mean with 'fruity'?
Too much fiber
Has corners
Or is square
@Mitch seeds
Seedy is different
@crl No. It's a crude synonym for "effeminate."
Gone to seed is ratty and unkempt
Holy crap I've been kidding about how all words are dead metaphors. But they really are
Ie sometimes French in English is ok other time a little to lah-dee-dah
they shouldn't be used à gogo
Whiskey a go go
12:55 PM
It's all a matter of style. If it works for you, use it. And be aware that the part of your brain that is worrying about this issue right now is not the part that helps you as a writer to get the story down. Much of the time your "editor brain" will simply edit the life out of anything you do. I speak from experience. — Robusto 2 mins ago
If you start with a boring story, and edit a lot, it comes out the other side
Like beckett
Or Joyce. What the hell was up with that dude? At least add a car chase or jumping in front of a train or something
@MattE.Эллен You may not know it, but she was present at your birthday. She attended incognito. And now she thinks you're an ungrateful wretch for not reciprocating.
Matt was just establishing his superiority
In the crib
Puts her in her place
12:59 PM
@Robusto I'd best rush off to do the Thames, then!
> ǁ incognita /ɪnˈkɒgnɪtə/, /-ˈniːtə/, a. and sb.1
Etymology: Ital. incognita, fem. of incognito unknown.

A. adj. Of a female: Unknown or disguised; having one’s identity concealed or unavowed.

1668 Dryden Mock Astrol. iii. Wks. 1701 I. 303 ― Being thus incognita, I shall discover if he make love to any of you.
1716 Lady M. W. Montagu Let. to C’tess Mar 3 Aug., ― I walked almost all over the town yesterday, incognita, in my slippers.
1884 Rita Vivienne v. v, ― She would go to Naples incognita.
Perhaps she was in drag.
Ever noticed that every time Matt walks into the board room with the queen, she stands up? It's like that
@MattE.Эллен It may be a little late for that. Her feelings were somewhat ruffled.
Now, I wonder, was she my mum, my dad or my girlfriend...
@Mitch He is the most interesting man in the world?
1:01 PM
So it should be terra incognita?
@Mitch Please be rhetorical. Please.
@tchrist Well, I think we should focus more on the plural form, since that is what a monarch tends to use.
Incognitae non sumus.
Terrae incognitoribus
1:02 PM
terror uncogito
Along with all other insects, there's a die-off of monarchs.
speak of the dog
1:04 PM
They're all going to the same place as unmatched socks and ballpoint pens.
ballpoint pens all live on a planet
@Mitch Every beehive that dies hosts the death of a queen.
Not to speak of three men
Was Trinidad Silva three actors in one?
1:05 PM
@Robusto Of all three genders.
They've all been placed in the stars, if by stars is meant a web page image
Third gender and third sex are concepts covering individuals categorized, either by themselves or by society, as neither man nor woman. It also describes a social category present in those societies that recognize three or more genders. The term third is usually understood to mean "other"; some anthropologists and sociologists have described fourth, fifth, and "some" genders. The concepts of "third", "fourth" and "some" genders can be somewhat difficult to understand within Western conceptual categories. Although biology determines whether a human's chromosomal and anatomical sex is male, female...
@tchrist They died for your sins.
> Trinidad was dubbed the "Sex Change Capital of the World", because a local doctor had an international reputation for performing sex reassignment surgery. In the 1960s, Dr. Stanley Biber, a veteran surgeon returning from Korea, decided to move to Trinidad because he had heard that the town needed a surgeon. In 1969 a local social worker asked him if he would perform the surgery for her, which he learned by consulting diagrams and a New York surgeon.
@crl women, fire, and dangerous things
1:07 PM
Uh-oh, Wikipedia is asking for money again.
> Biber attained a reputation as a good surgeon at a time when very few doctors performed the operations. At his peak, Biber was performing roughly four sex change operations a day, and the term "taking a trip to Trinidad" became a euphemism for some seeking the procedures he offered.
There's a page on the internet that describes how to do surgery. Follow that.
Biber: Snip. Next!
Justin time.
Oh. There's like a hundred you tubes for that kind of surgery.
Found one for do it yourself gall bladder removal.
There should be a YouTuba channel featuring only people playing that largest and lowest of brass instruments.
1:11 PM
The hard part is getting the meds right. Enough pain relief that you can continue with the cutting, but not too much that you forget what you are doing.
Q: A word for an array of colours? (see description)

SimonI'm looking for a word or phrase, if there is one, that is similar to the phrase "spectrum of colours" or "array of colours" something to describe the fact that there are several different colours from all over the spectrum of colours. I'm using it in a sentence akin to "The light glinted off o...

Because there's little more annoying than to wake up and realize you haven't finished removing your own gall bladder.
That would have been auto-protected if only we had had our setting at 3 not 5.
Shall we check back tomorrow to see what the count is? :)
@tchrist how does one set the count?
1:13 PM
@MattE.Эллен Ask a CM to fix it. ELL is set to 3 but we're set to 5. Code Golf is set to 20.
@tchrist I see.
A: Auto-protect questions that get more than N answers from new users in a 24-hour period

OdedThis has been implemented pretty much as described in the question and is now deployed across the network. Default threshold is 5 answers in 24 hours (by new users i.e. users who earned less than 10 reputation on the site, excluding any association bonuses), at the point of which the question ge...

1:45 PM
Is that really such a problem?
Look at any question that gets a lot of low-quality answers.
Speaking of low quality . . .
Useless title.
Q: What does mean 'though' and when we use it?

Kamil StorczI have some problems with using and understanding sentences with 'though'. for example: He's a good friend though he makes me angry sometimes. This is intelligibly for me but yesterday I was watching a youtube video and one girl said "you have nice shirt though". Why did she use "though" in t...

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@MattE.Эллен The Queen is very much like the American Santa Claus. You never see her at your birthday, but you always know she's been there because of all the rich presents you receive. And if you didn't receive any, or they aren't very good? Then you have been a naughty boy, and are being punished.
Moral: Don't piss off Her Majesty!
@Robusto true, she might take my head
1:58 PM
She knows when you've been sleeping
She knows when you're awake
She knows when you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake!
Sung in the best mead halls.
She knows when you've been sleeping
She knows when you're awake
She knows when you've been bad or good
So be good or loose your head!
And when was the last time anybody called her "Ring Giver"? That one hurts most, I bet.
She knows when you've been sleeping
Or when you're out of bed
She knows when you've been bad or good
So be good or loose your head!
Everyone always forgets that she's not just the British queen, she's also the Queen of Canada. Even Canadians forget. Even she forgets.
Songs gotta rhyme, @terdon.
You've obviously never heard this:
2:01 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 South Park even forgot. They refer to the Prince of Canada. I guess that could mean Charles, though.
@terdon Au contraire, mon blockhead.
Well then, I don't matter if you put a couple of extra syllables into a line!
Obviously "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" is not a folk song.
@Robusto ugh. Don't remind me. One day we'll have to put him on all our money.
No, the pertinent line is "It don't even gotta rhyne."
Even better, true.
Though I think you meant rhine.
2:03 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You could rebel at that point. It would make him feel worse than he already does, I bet.
Anyway Elizabeth has been the longest reigning monarch in Canada for years now, seeing as Victoria had already been queen for quite some time when Canada was formed.
@Robusto I think we should try to convince one of the next-in-lines to defect, come to Canada, and form a new succession. Or better still, form a republic.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Bullshit. Canada was formed hundreds of millions of years ago. If Victoria had been queen for quite some time by then Elizabeth wouldn't now hold the record.
@Robusto Nah, that's just the land where Canada is placed.
BTW, I think Elizabeth did it just to get into the Guinness Book of Records. Advice from her publicist, probably.
Yeah she needs the press to stay in the public eye so that she can keep making money.
2:06 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So you're saying Canada could exist independent of the land? There could be some kind of mental Canada similar to "My Own Private Idaho"?
@Robusto Yes, sure. Kinda like how currency works. It exists because enough people believe it exists.
Canada is a state of mind, then. Is it a drunk state of mind?
After a few beers, people say, "Wow, I just got to Canada."
Or "Don't even try to wake him up. He's in Canada."
A: Is there a name for “fear of olives” in English?

tchristElaeophobia or eleophobia Phobias are productive in English, by which I mean that in English when one wants to describe a specific phobia, one simply identifies the corresponding Ancient Greek word to the thing feared and then attaches ‑phobia to it. This is an open set because people’s fears are...

TED said the same thing one minute later than me. :)
Although at less length.
Is there a name for left-handed fat ballerinas who have six digits on their off-hand and topical dermatitis?
Yes there is, but it exceeds the allowable post length.
2:10 PM
That should only stiffen your resolve.
No flirting in this chat.
saunters in saucily
@tchrist No sé cómo hacer eso.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 What kind of sauce?
Hollandaise is my favorite.
A sauce of saudade.
Hollandaise ruins benedicts!
2:13 PM
Salsify it, Daisy.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 You couldn't be more wrong.
Hollandaise is like yellow mayo.
tee hee
Not the way I make it.
It took me literally years to learn to make good Hollandaise sauce. But it was worth the effort.
If the egg is suitably runny, that is sauce enough for me.
What's in it?
2:15 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Perhaps I misjudged you. Yes, by all means have your Eggs McBenedict.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 What's in Hollandaise sauce? Egg yolks, butter, a little salt and a little lemon.
Not that runny.
@Robusto why do I hate it so?
Because you've never had mine?
If all you've had is restaurant Hollandaise, chances are it's a quickmix something or prepared too far in advance and refrigerated.
No restaurant, especially a breakfast restaurant, has time to make real Hollandaise sauce.
Ah, dairy bars and diners.
It takes, what, ten minutes or something?
2:18 PM
No. Longer than that.
@tchrist You bring a recipe for blender Hollandaise into this shrine? How dare you?
Even worse: microwaved!
"Quick and easy Hollandaise sauce"! Why not "Quick and easy heart transplants"?
i guess people don't own whisks?
2:20 PM
How could it take more than ten minutes to combine four ingredients?
And if you're ever lucky enough to try my sauce bordelaise you will think you are in heaven.
Are you growing the lemons? Waiting for l'oeuf?
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 By taking time-outs for shots of brandy?
I'm ready for l'oeuf / oh, baby I'm ready for l'oeuf
2:21 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 You have to separate the yolks, whisk them, prepare the butter, heat the yolks in a double boiler while whisking them so that they don't begin to overcook, melt the butter, etc., etc., etc.
@tchrist sounds good.
@Robusto oic
Hollandaise sauce is like Mozart: It all seems very simple but it's a lot of work to get it right.
Light. Effortless.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Is that a Meat L'oeuf song?
Arthur Lee and L'oeuf.
2:23 PM
@tchrist Yes. And when something sounds effortless you know a lot of effort has gone into that.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Congratulations! I know how important your monarch is to you.
L'oeuf and Rockets.
/usr/share/misc/units.lib does not have dash in it.
I'm all out of yolks. I mean jokes.
The only monarchs we have fly to Mexico every year.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I bet you're not all out of whites, though.
2:25 PM
high away / bye bye
There is a man here to replace the giant picture window of this here rental house.
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Stop. You'll bring @RegDwigнt in here.
slaps forehead
He put plastic sheeting down in front of it, which was suitably impressive. But then he stapled a shroud of it into the ceiling.
I'm scrambling to think of more jokes.
Can you see a picture of the crucified Christ in the shroud?
I'm trying to look on the sunny side.
@Robusto not from here.
Mm, that's gonna get closed.
The Perestroika question.
BTW, in perfect Eggs Benedict the yolks of the poached eggs should be just a few seconds past runny.
2:29 PM
Maybe not. It's more detailed than I imagined.
@Robusto this.
I want slow, thick goo.
@Robusto A good metaphor for life.
@Cerberus Heh, is that your way of trying to get rid of me?
2:45 PM
@Robusto Too many yolks.
3:06 PM
@Robusto I don't want to get rid of Eggs Benedict.
It's one of the few things I cook that is really good. There are only four or five others.
You don't like cooking?
I like it to make really good things. For everyday stuff, not so much.
There are only a few dishes I liked well enough to learn how to do them right.
Very manly.
I prefer baking.
3:16 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Unsurprising, given your name.
@Cerberus Nah, just very lazy. I don't want to be great at cooking everything, just the things I really like that I can't rely on others to make.
@Robusto touche.
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4:44 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 It's spelled touchy, innit?
5:04 PM
@Robusto i, t, conventionally.
5:47 PM
his fiancé's decolleté was risqué but that was à la mode
let's stop those clichés
6:21 PM
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7:31 PM
@MattE.Эллен Poké, mon.
8:15 PM
hello @Mετά Éd

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