English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

George Pompidou

11:00 AM

why are very few people's avatars showing up for me?

answer: because my plugins were blocking gravatar.

+10 points for meeee!

Robusto

Coffee time.

George Pompidou

I recently moved my nifty espresso maker to my bedside so I can increase my slothlikeness to critical levels.

RegDwigнt

@GeorgePompidou yes, you are going to die.

George Pompidou

when I lived in Switzerland, I had a hard time learning any German because they all speak English there.

I got a different feeling from Germany.

RegDwigнt

Jul 25 at 14:04, by RegDwigнt

Not smoking is detrimental to your health. In fact, if you do not smoke, you will die.

George Pompidou

11:14 AM

oh, sure I'll die in four years when all this eating cheeseburgers and no movement clogs up my arteries.

I meant in the month or so before my German gets to a suitable level for everyday interactions.

damn it, I want those four extra years.

I've also heard there's been a rise in "far-right extremism"

which I can only assume means that I will be shot by the Gestapo immediately on arrival.

Hugo

worth a single hatvote? english.stackexchange.com/a/215051/9001

Matt Эллен

yes

Hugo

thanks!

Jasper Loy

Hats are a great way of justifying sham voting.

George Pompidou

shamwow

RegDwigнt

11:27 AM

@GeorgePompidou stuff and nonsense. Vocal minority. And the media jumping on it. You know how it works. Watch the evening news just once, and you'd think the world is all rape and murder.

George Pompidou

yeah, why, just last week someone peed on a dead body.

Jasper Loy

@RegDwigнt Watch the news here every day, and you think that this is a good country to live in.

I got 100 flags on math SE.

RegDwigнt

My wife regularly goes to some place that holds the record for the most far-right voters, country-wide. Like, 25% vote flat-out Nazis. She didn't even know that until I told her a couple weeks ago. She's been going there for five years now. As a filthy non-Aryan. In a company of dozens of other filthy non-Aryans. She noticed nothing. At all.

Cerberus

Where is that?

George Pompidou

I read an article in which a German woman from Dresden asked why immigrants have fancy mobile phones and she cannot afford one. got a kick out of that. that's the kind of attitude rural Romanians have—jealousy and insecurity about others having better stuff than them.

Cerberus

11:30 AM

Bavaria? Saxony?

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus Sächsische Schweiz.

Cerberus

Ah, in Switzerland.

RegDwigнt

No.

You're in Switzerland.

Cerberus

No?

RegDwigнt

Saxony is in Germany last I checked.

Saxon Switzerland

Saxon Switzerland (German: Sächsische Schweiz) is a hilly climbing area and national park around the Elbe valley south-east of Dresden in Saxony, Germany. Together with the Bohemian Switzerland in the Czech Republic it forms the Elbe Sandstone Mountains. Saxon Switzerland alone has some 1,000 climbing peaks, as well as several hollows. The area is popular with Dresden locals and international climbers. The administrative district for the area is Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge. The fortress of Königstein is a well-known landmark. == Derivation of the name == The German name for Saxon Switzerland...

George Pompidou

11:31 AM

it's in Czechoslovakia

basically

RegDwigнt

Sort of.

They are fed up with Prague, at any rate.

George Pompidou

good lord, that's a cool bridge.

Jasper Loy

There are many places called Jasper in the US and Canada. I am everywhere, it seems.

George Pompidou

you know there are other things to talk about besides yourself

Jasper Loy

I think you should just shut up.

RegDwigнt

11:33 AM

I'd like to stick around to talk, but work alas.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt I got the Saxony right!

RegDwigнt

So lators.

George Pompidou

I'm going to venture out there for sure.

what a great looking bridge.

Cerberus

But Schweiz is an odd name for Germany.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus which is why I was all the more perplexed how you went to Switzerland so fast.

George Pompidou

11:33 AM

it's like saying New England @Cerberus

that's in the United States but it has England in the name.

RegDwigнt

That's what adjectives do, folks.

You could ask on ELU.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt Well, when you said Schweiz, I assumed it was in der Schweiz.

@GeorgePompidou That is new.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus no, I said Saxon Schweiz.

Get three pairs of spectacles.

George Pompidou

and that is Saxon

Jasper Loy

@Cerberus Like future and the future, lol.

Cerberus

11:34 AM

@RegDwigнt You didn't.

I clearly heard Sächsische Schweiz.

George Pompidou

in fact, it's even more clearly an adjective in German

Cerberus

@JasperLoy Ehh yes, almost.

George Pompidou

ische gives it away. no need for more spectacles.

RegDwigнt

Mar 7 '11 at 18:26, by RegDwight

►

And I'm out.

Cerberus

Vicipaedia doesn't explain why it is called Schweiz...

George Pompidou

11:36 AM

@Cerberus it's not. it's called Sächsische Schweiz.

[adjective] [place]

Cerberus

Schweiz being...

George Pompidou

it's the same as New England, like I said previously

Cerberus

New is different.

Besides, it isn't a colony.

George Pompidou

England is an island north of France. yet when you add the adjective new, it's another place.

how is one adjective different from another?

Matt Эллен

spelling, etc.

George Pompidou

11:38 AM

there's a neighborhood called Little Italy. nobody confuses it for Italy because it has little in front of it.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Exactly.

@GeorgePompidou Again, colonies are different. I do not care about colonies.

spits on colonies

George Pompidou

colonies? what colonies are you on about?

New England is a region in the US

it hasn't been a colony for hundreds of years

Matt Эллен

but the reason for its name...

George Pompidou

why does the reason matter?

Cerberus

Its name is New England because it is/was a colony. I will not venture into any debates about the disputed status of colonies.

George Pompidou

11:40 AM

it's the same structure: [adjective] [recycled place name]

Matt Эллен

why does "Sächsische Schweiz" have Schweiz in it?

Cerberus

It is surprising.

George Pompidou

ah, if it's a matter of why then I do not care.

I'm only attempting to clarify why I didn't immediately assume "Sächsische Schweiz" is in Switzerland.

I assumed it was in Sachsen.

Cerberus

The only thing I can think of is that, before Switzerland existed, in the 11th century or so, Schweiz was the name of a large reason, and some parts of it did not join the confoederation.

@GeorgePompidou That is less logical, is what I was saying.

George Pompidou

on the contrary, it's more logical.

why would there be a place in Switzerland called "Sächsische Schweiz"

that would make literally no sense.

Matt Эллен

11:43 AM

because it's the Saxon part of Switzerland

Cerberus

Exactly.

George Pompidou

to me, that would imply it's a separate Switzerland.

Cerberus

Just like Vlaams Brabant, which is the Flemish part of the former duchy of Brabant.

Robusto

Yay! I'm a pirate!

Matt Эллен

yar!

Cerberus

11:44 AM

facepaw

George Pompidou

I'm going to live near Hamburg soon.

is excited

Jasper Loy

I have not eaten a hamburger for so long.

George Pompidou

will ride lots of trains everywhere for no reason other than to be on a train

Robusto

@JasperLoy You only eat married Hamburgers?

George Pompidou

not everything is about you Jasper

Jasper Loy

11:46 AM

@GeorgePompidou Shut up.

George Pompidou

can shut up apply to text communication?

Matt Эллен

@GeorgePompidou we get it, George, you think your opinion about Jasper is very important. It doesn't interest us.

George Pompidou

ah.

I actually do not attribute any importance to my opinion on Jasper.

I do not think it warrants this property.

nor do I intend any of my statements toward him to be paid attention to by you or anyone else.

I just do it to piss him off.

Matt Эллен

you must, otherwise it wouldn't interrupt your other thoughts

George Pompidou

I don't follow your logic.

it doesn't interrupt my thoughts at all, and I have a clear reason for typing messages at him.

Matt Эллен

11:49 AM

you were talking about how excited you were about going to hamburg then interrupted that with a message to Jasper.

George Pompidou

I did no such thing.

and it was just that—a message to Jasper.

if you do not care about it then do not type so much about it.

Matt Эллен

I care that you keep bringing it up. It is not a nice thing to do

George Pompidou

nor is him telling me to shut up.

Matt Эллен

he is allowed to stand up for himself.

although tit for tat is not going to be tolerated either.

George Pompidou

and I am allowed to say "not everything is about you" to someone who I believe talks about themselves too much.

that's a very reasonable thing, man.

Matt Эллен

11:53 AM

Yes. Except that we make allowances for Jasper.

You must have noticed that by now?

George Pompidou

what does that mean?

Jasper Loy

No allowances are required. Everyone talks about himself and others too.

It's just that you are the only one who keeps saying I am talking about myself, and that's stupid.

George Pompidou

without allowances I think nobody would like you Jasper

Matt Эллен

see, George, there are way and ways of talking to people

some try to giude, others poke with a stick

Jasper Loy

@GeorgePompidou I don't understand your problem with me. I do not think I have hurt you in any way before, so your action is incomprehensible.

Matt Эллен

11:55 AM

you poke with a stick

George Pompidou

and there are ways of going into a public chatroom for attention, and going on and on about your problems and yourself and your life.

some do that instead of talking to other people.

why this is so accepted is beyond me. as is why I'm the only one who is bothered to say something about it.

Jasper Loy

No need to talk to @GeorgePompidou about me @MattЭллен I can handle this myself.

Matt Эллен

so you seek to break the things you don't understand?

George Pompidou

no, actually, I don't seek to break anything.

Matt Эллен

it's not just about you, Jasper. It's about how George treat people he doens't understand

George Pompidou

11:58 AM

I understand Jasper. he's the same as every other self-absorbed, entitled emo kid.

Matt Эллен

it frustrates me that his approach to people is to attack them rather than help them

George Pompidou

but see? he thinks it's about him.

he thinks everything is about him.

I cannot help Jasper. he will soon grow up and realize that he was a silly kid.

I did the same. so did millions before.

Matt Эллен

You're not helping the situation, George. You seek to cow and over power. It is not a solution.

George Pompidou

it cannot be helped, so sometimes I poke fun at it.

Matt Эллен

that's just poking, not poking fun.

George Pompidou

12:00 PM

it's fun for me. I get a big kick out of it. I'd understand if it's against the rules, as I have been banned for saying things over the line before. but I don't think things like "it's not all about you" are against the rules here.

Matt Эллен

Your attitude suggests you don't care that you are hurting people.

George Pompidou

anyway, I suppose you are right.

that's not true as a rule. it's true that I don't much care if I "hurt" Jasper because I think he's so full of himself that he could use some jolting out of it.

Matt Эллен

That is the wrong way to approach the situation.

George Pompidou

but it's also true that it's not necessary, and that I could just stop talking to him altogether.

I think another wrong way to approach it is to enable him.

which everyone else here does.

so, can we at least acknowledge that I'm not the only "wrong" one?

Matt Эллен

Sometimes, that's true.

George Pompidou

12:03 PM

also, this isn't the psychiatrist's office. it's not my responsibility to help with his silly young adult issues.

which millions of others have as well, and are generic and boring.

Matt Эллен

it's my responsibility to stop you making things worse.

George Pompidou

and I understand that. I'll make an effort to stop making things worse.

Matt Эллен

thank you. I am grateful.

Jasper Loy

@GeorgePompidou I don't think you know much about my life to make that statement.

Matt Эллен

Please don't antagonise the situation, Jasper

George Pompidou

12:07 PM

^ this

Jasper Loy

Well, it's OK, nobody is getting killed here, it's alright for George to say what he wants and for me to respond too.

George Pompidou

gah!

struggles to control self

goes to make a breakfast sandwich

Matt Эллен

It's not alright if it leads to tit for tat arguing. that doesn't help anyone

Jasper Loy

Well, it just takes up some space in this chat, that's about it.

Matt Эллен

it leads to a bad atmosphere here.

I can't say I've made it better, but I hope the air will clear in a minute, if it's left to settle.

Jasper Loy

12:11 PM

@GeorgePompidou I will try to make this my last sentence to you in this chat. I don't think you deserve my attention at all and I am going to completely ignore you from now, which is what I did not do earlier because I thought I saw something good in you.

George Pompidou

sort of like Jesus sees something good in all of us.

I'm sorry; that was also passive aggressive.

it's just tough being me.

Jasper Loy

@MattЭллен No worries, as mentioned above, that would be my last sentence to him, and you can let him say what he wants about me.

Matt Эллен

OK. I'll et you both off there if you both cease :D

George Pompidou

brings the baby Jesus some cheese balls and gatorade

it's almost Christmas!

which means my annoying Jewish family will be doing annoying Jewish stuff for a week or two.

tries to get the Christmas spirit going

Andrew Leach

Bah. Humbug.

Matt Эллен

12:15 PM

Happy Hanukkah!

George Pompidou

listens to the Vienna Boys Choir singing Christmas songs

coming from a completely non-religious (and thus hopefully unbiased) standpoint, I much prefer the Christmas spirit.

I also prefer the story with the baby Jesus and the wise men following the star of Bethlehem!

smiles and feels fuzzy

@Matt how does your hat fit your avatar so well? is that just coinci-mental?

mine is too big for my little hippo body.

Matt Эллен

@GeorgePompidou I used the tools for adjusting the size and position, and the roundness fitted nicely

George Pompidou

oh!

Andrew Leach

My hat's at a jaunty angle.

George Pompidou

I was unaware of the tools.

Matt Эллен

12:21 PM

Have you found them? I'm looking for the picture I posted yesterday

George Pompidou

@AndrewLeach heh hehe. British people use charming adjectives.

Matt Эллен

17 hours ago, by Matt Эллен

George Pompidou

I found them. I tilted my hat a bit to the right so that it looks more gravitationally obedient, however, because of the crossbow, it doesn't look quite right. also, making it smaller didn't help, so I'll leave it comically oversized.

Matt Эллен

:D

Hugo

this actually should be re-opened, it's asking for first use of a term, not invention of the actual dots

6

Q: What is the origin of the phrase "bullet points"?

In particular, was the expression coined by a single individual or is it attributed to a document? The only thing I've been able to find was a non-cited reference to its origins in the 19th century on Wikipedia. There are plenty of sites on their usage and shapes, but nothing as to when or wh...

George Pompidou

12:25 PM

sounds on-topic to me.

I wish I could vote.

Hugo

wow, a question I asked during last year's hatathon has now over 250,000 views

7

Q: What does "thot" mean and when was it first used?

The word thot is all over Twitter. The @lovihatibot Twitterbot routinely finds it in searches for "I love the word [X]" and "I hate the word [X]", in fact it's the most hated word and third most loved word (presumably use in one category feeding the other). Similarly it's the second most commo...

meaning etymology slang offensive-language

Matt Эллен

thot's a popular word, I guess

George Pompidou

so, do these hats I receive have absolutely no bearing on anything once they are "returned to their boxes"?

Matt Эллен

that is correct.

George Pompidou

wonderful! I love getting things and then no longer having them.

like when a crook robbed me on the street and I was overjoyed that my new headphones were gone.

Matt Эллен

12:28 PM

joy of joys!

Andrew Leach

@Hugo I'm happy that's on-topic. I have acted.

Hugo

@AndrewLeach Thank you!

George Pompidou

I wonder if Top Gear will still be happening by the time I move to Germany…

I've always wanted a very infinitesimally small chance to be in the audience.

Andrew Leach

@Hugo OED's earliest citation is surprisingly late.

George Pompidou

and without the separation of an ocean it will be easier to make it there without spending much time.

Hugo

12:32 PM

@AndrewLeach wow, that is late

Mitch

1:40 PM

@MattЭллен It's the schweizy part of Saxony. That is, they think it is Alpine, even though it is barely comparable.

Robusto

@Hugo And that's not counting me.

Hugo

No, etymology questions are not off topic, but then again, most good etymology questions include an indication that the OP has knowledge of the word's definition and don't ask for both definition and etymology. Please pick one authoritatively answerable question and ask it. — SrJoven 9 mins ago

is that so?

Andrew Leach

All I can say is thot. Which I may have mentioned before.

Mitch

@Cerberus I see myself on there!

Robusto

thot is better than thought because it ends in hot instead of ought

Mitch

1:49 PM

@Robusto I thawt so.

Robusto

That is hawt.

Mitch

So when people do the cot-caught merger (those crazy crazy people) which way do they merge? To cot or to caught?

Matt Эллен

somewhere in the middle?

Mitch

Like the Mid-Atlantic accent?

In the Azores.

Matt Эллен

Only spoken by merfolk

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

1:56 PM

@Mitch to cot, I'd say

Mitch

That's what I would have said, but the Paris Hilton 'hawt' is going towards 'caught'

Robusto

@Mitch And the Boston "caught" is going toward "cot" . . .

Matt Эллен

2:16 PM

would a Bostonian's court be close to cot, too?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен I'd say no.

I could be wrong though

Matt Эллен

hmmm

Mitch

@MattЭллен I'd also say no. non-rhoticity is more like 'change the 'r' somehow'. In bostonian it sorta turns into a glide so more like 'caught' ->'cawt' or 'forty-four' -> fawty-fawuh'

Matt Эллен

and how does court sound?

Mitch

@MattЭллен I'd also say no. non-rhoticity is more like 'change the 'r' somehow'. In bostonian it sorta turns into a glide so more like 'court' ->'cawt' or 'forty-four' -> fawty-fawuh'

Matt Эллен

2:24 PM

ah!

Mitch

editing and mental difficulties

tchrist

2:34 PM

There is a Western Pennsylvania accent where both cot and caught merge to a very, very rounded version, more than is normal, making everything sound thawed. On the other hand, in Southern California the merger goes so far the other direction, they have no rounding at all, so draw comes out sounding like drah.

SoCal is of course rhotic. I’m trying to remember whether the Penn one is. I think so.

Freck, two more downvotes. What the hell, people? That’s now six unexplained downvotes on the playas=pliers question. Do they simply not understand the triphthong issue?

Never mind, I’ll just find some popular Urban Dictionary questions to ask instead.

Mitch

looking it over, I think it is because AmE people expect 'playa' to be like the opposite of a 'hay-ta'. And so they think it is based on a false premise.

tchrist

That’s not what The Dictionary says.

Mitch

Like they've never seen the Spanish word for 'beach' before.

tchrist

It means something else in English.

Mitch

@tchrist ha ha, but people don't use dictionaries.

What does it mean in English?

tchrist

2:45 PM

It’s a flat dry lakebed, generally.

> playa /ˈplaɪə/. orig. U.S.

Etymology: a. Sp. playa shore, beach, coast, f. late L. plagia: cf. plage1.

1. a. A flat silt- or sand-covered area, free of vegetation and usu. salty, that lies at the bottom of a desert basin and after rain becomes a temporary lake (playa lake). b. A playa lake.

1854 J. R. Bartlett Pers. Narr. Explorations I. 246 ― The playas··seemed to have an extent of twenty-five or thirty miles.
1856 in Publ. S. Calif. Hist. Soc. (1928) XIV. 124 ― We··stopped 11⁄2 hours at the wagon & took breakfast & then pushed on to the playa & went ahead to hunt for water.

Mitch

Oh.

tchrist

The annual Burning Man festival famously takes place in a playa.

Mitch

Definitely not at the beach

tchrist

Exactly.

Mitch

or a beach with absolutely no water

which would be 'not a beach'

tchrist

2:47 PM

I wouldn’t call Great Sand Dunes National Park a beach either.

Matt Эллен

@Mitch e.g. a desert

tchrist

Yes, playas occur in deserts, and are typical of them.

Mitch

@tchrist is that the one in Indiana on Lake Michigan?

tchrist

Apostle Islands National Lakeshore is not in Michigan!

"Indiana Dunes National Lakeshore" != "Great Sand Dunes National Park"

The latter has dunes a kilofoot tall.

The former does not.

GSDNP accumulates all the sand that blows from the Sierra Nevadas all the way to the Continental Divide, where it smacks up against a wall nearly three miles high. It makes a big sandbox.

Robusto

@Mitch Sand traps on a golf course are called "the beach" whether or not there are any water hazards nearby.

Mitch

2:52 PM

google.com/maps/place/…

Zooming in on it you see the dunes. But right next door is a nice pattern of irrigated circular farms

tchrist

Indiana Dunes NL is on the coast of Lake Michigan, while Apostle Islands NL is on the coast of Lake Superior.

Mitch

@Robusto That explains a lot about golf.

Robusto

Nothing can explain golf. It is inexplicable. Thanks, Scotland.

tchrist

> [...] Old Took's great-granduncle Bullroarer, who was so huge (for a hobbit) that he could ride a horse. He charged the ranks of the goblins of Mount Gram in the Battle of the Green Fields, and knocked their king Golfimbul's head clean off with a wooden club. It sailed a hundred yards through the air and went down a rabbit hole, and in this way the battle was won and the game of Golf invented at the same moment.

Gandalf can explain golf.

Robusto

He can explain its origins, perhaps, but not its continued popularity.

skullpatrol

3:26 PM

Scandal at MIT

Hi @Ste

nice hat :-)

Ste

Hi @skullpatrol

Thanks.

I don't think I'll finish with as many as I did last year. :(

skullpatrol

You were amongst the top iirc

Ste

3rd. EL&U had 3 in the top 5 I think.

Mitch

@tchrist Gandalf is magic

Robusto

@RegDwigнt is sucking wind with 5 hats. I think we all expected more from him.

tchrist

3:42 PM

There, I edit both question (changing its title for clarity) and answer so that the ignorant can no longer claim ignorance. The assholes, of course, will continue to claim assholery.

1

Q: Does English really have triphthongs?

Does English really have triphthongs? EDIT/TDLR: It appears that quite a few people have misunderstood this question. In a nutshell, it is asking why many sources, even scholarly ones, claim that the /aɪə/ sequence is a triphthong despite syllabic evidence to the contrary. I am trying to dis...

phonetics syllables diphthongs received-pronunciation triphthongs

afk

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

woohoo! aztec hat on ELU

Matt Эллен

woo!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I have all 8 known secret hats

skullpatrol

Sherlock Holmes^

tchrist

@Robusto He has 600 unrecognized ones in the bank.

Mitch

3:48 PM

International Phonetic Alphabet chart for English dialects

This concise chart shows the most common applications of the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) to represent English language pronunciations. See Pronunciation respelling for English for phonetic transcriptions used in different dictionaries. AuE = Australian English CaE = Canadian English GA = General American InE = Indian English IrE = Irish English NZE = New Zealand English RP = Received Pronunciation (Standard in the United Kingdom) ScE = Scottish English SAE = South African English SSE = Standard Singapore English WaE = Welsh English == Chart == This chart gives a partial system o...

@tchrist No obvious unassailable triphthongs there.

Cerberus

4:33 PM

@Mitch That's amazing. So you're not a tautological anomaly after all.

Robusto

4:56 PM

@Cerberus Taut but not tautological.

Cerberus

Both.

Robusto

I thot we taut you better.

Cerberus

You should let sleeping dogs lie rather than slap them with a ruler.

Cerberus

5:21 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 "I've had to completely turn off notifications from several apps to avoid the heads up getting in the way. This has effectively returned Android to pre-froyo days. Who thinks of this shit? Android design philosophy is all about choice and configuration. Now I effectively must disable notifications of some of my most important apps."

Ste

Would anyone be so kind as to downvote an answer of mine for the Business, Front/Party, Back hat please?

Damkerng T.

5:41 PM

@Ste Sure! Which answer?

Ste

Hey, @DamkerngT. How's it going?

4

A: Word for metallic "dust"

The metalwork equivalent of sawdust is "swarf" The OED has this as: Fine chips or filings of stone, metal, or other material produced by a machining operation:

Downvote that one please and I'll then delete the chat post.

Damkerng T.

Done!

I'm okay. It's nice to see you again. :-)

Ste

Yeah, you too. I tend to pop back into chat when hats are on the go!

Damkerng T.

Hehe! Me too.

I might try harder for the hats next week.

Ste

If I could only quit work, I'd be here all the time!

Damkerng T.

5:48 PM

LOL

Ste

Yeah, the boss is away next week... hatdash!

Damkerng T.

Gotta go. See you around!

Ste

see ya

skullpatrol

@Robusto your hat is very raider-esque, are you considering joining the rebels?

Robusto

They've gotta be better than the Bears.

A worthy answer, but please cite your source for the etymology of lemel. — Robusto 30 secs ago

Jasper Loy

6:00 PM

I'm glad that evil man is gone from this chat.

skullpatrol

he was here earlier

trying to make conversation

I told him: If I want a conversation with you, I will do all the talking.

Anyway, the world is full of evil people, that will never change.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy I'm back!

Jasper Loy

@MattЭллен Yes, with a stupid hat!

Matt Эллен

It's not stupid. It's like a fancy alice band

of course, my gravatar doesn't have hair, so...

Jasper Loy

Oh I see it is actually a crab.

skullpatrol

6:08 PM

@MattЭллен does anyone ever show up to these Weekly writing exercise ?

Jasper Loy

Orcs eat crabs, so that is appropriate.

Matt Эллен

@skullpatrol sometimes. you can see on the star list when we have

Jasper Loy

@skullpatrol Sometimes.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy yes :D

Jasper Loy

I just slept for about 4 hours.

skullpatrol

6:16 PM

I like this proverb: “It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”
Confucius

Jasper Loy

At least he said something sensible this time.

skullpatrol

I would say I live my life by that proverb.

as long as you do not stop

we all need to stop and rest

Jasper Loy

I am going to meet a friend and a professor next week, and a friend and a professor next next week.

skullpatrol

but then, the important thing is to keep going...

It does not matter how slowly

Jasper Loy

Right. For some people, they need to rest the rest of their lives, which is also alright.

skullpatrol

6:23 PM

they're trying

slowly

Jasper Loy

Sometimes, I think that I believe in a future life to give myself hope. But then again, I think the idea of a future life is really very likely, which is why I believe in it in the first place.

skullpatrol

you always come back to the "future life" reasoning don't you?

It is good to believe in something.

Jasper Loy

Well, some people try and solve their problems this life, which is good. But there are some problems which are too much to solve this life.

skullpatrol

Yes.

Jasper Loy

A paralysed man can do many things other than walk, but he can never walk again. We have to accept these things.

skullpatrol

6:28 PM

Solve what you can.