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KitFox

3:00 PM

@Neeku Thanks. I'll take a look at it.

RegDwigнt

I suppose it's part of UK's sanctions against Putin. Offload all Russkies to Ireland.

Cerberus

Umm.

RegDwigнt

But who knows. How can you even ask. You still expect any of this to make any sense?

Jasper Loy

Putin sounds like Pudding.

Cerberus

No.

Matt Эллен

3:01 PM

pewter

RegDwigнt

I don't think any of you have the slightest idea how the name is pronounced.

That's like saying "Thatcher" is pronounced "Liverpool".

Jasper Loy

@RegDwigнt It could even sound like Button.

tchrist

5

Q: Changes to discourage plagiarism

A large number of contributors have contributed high quality posts over the years on Stack Overflow, and the community collectively moderates to keep the standards of the site high. However, some users end up using other people's contributions and posts without attribution, which results in plagi...

jokerdino

@tchrist, you around?

tchrist

Yes, sir.

Cerberus

3:04 PM

tchrist

How may I have the pleasure of helping you?

Cerberus

His name is Cicero, can you believe it?

jokerdino

@tchrist I don't understand your flag on Ask Ubuntu. Can you recheck it?

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus you put on some weight. and hair.

tchrist

@jokerdino It looks like I tagged the wrong answer, right?

jokerdino

3:05 PM

Hm yeah.

Cerberus

This is a man who lives in a very bad neighbourhood, from an article about crime (he is probably not involved in those crimes).

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus why would I need to believe it now that I know it?

tchrist

Let me rerun the Deep Dive query on your site again.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt It may seem to unlikely that you disbelieve me.

jokerdino

@tchrist Thank you kindly, good sir.

tchrist

3:05 PM

When I’m doing this work, I keep a bunch of tabs open to all duplicates.

Cerberus

Hilarious.

jokerdino

Much fun?

Cerberus

You're turning into...Reg.

tchrist

And I think my mouse had the wrong ID in it.

Cerberus

You tag your mice?

RegDwigнt

3:06 PM

I have five tabs open ATM, and three of them because of yourself.

Cerberus

Whoseself?

RegDwigнt

That guy over there.

Cerberus

I have about 20 open.

RegDwigнt

With three heads and a tail.

Cerberus

Hah tsk.

Matt Эллен

3:06 PM

@Cerberus for GPS tracking, in case they're lost or stolen

jokerdino

@tchrist I see.

tchrist

@jokerdino Hm, kinda. I’d rather not talk much about it outside of mod-chat, but you are welcome to contemplated this new meta posting.

Cerberus

I'm prettier than that!

tchrist

I’ll go run the query now for you.

RegDwigнt

Yes, yes, honey, you are.

jokerdino

3:07 PM

I would have rejected the flag but I knew your name from somewhere.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Or if they run away?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus yes

tchrist

@jokerdino Round, round, get-a-round, I get a round.

Thanks.

RegDwigнt

@jokerdino he's a famous tomato farmer.

jokerdino

I'll check the query now.

Jasper Loy

3:08 PM

@RegDwigнt Is there any self-learning kit you would recommend me for learning German? I only know about the Teach Yourself series which is very good.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Or if Lorin or Randy catches one and and hides it in the bushes...

jokerdino

@JasperLoy Duolingo?

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy I really wouldn't know. Have you tried listening to Deutsche Welle?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus ha! yes

RegDwigнt

@jokerdino I've tried Duolingo and others of its kind, I am disappoint.

jokerdino

3:09 PM

It's the best I have found.

RegDwigнt

4 hours ago, by RegDwigнt

@Robusto "better" does not mean "any good".

Jasper Loy

@RegDwigнt No, I am thinking of getting something from amazon, that kind of thing. With book and disc.

RegDwigнt

s/better/best/;

tchrist

@jokerdino Run this SEDE query but from 2012-01 through the present day and three hits show up.

RegDwigнt

@JasperLoy oh then I'm really the wrong person to ask. I never used anything like that for any language.

Even more to the point, I never would.

Cerberus

3:10 PM

It is like asking someone who lives in Paris for a good hotel in Paris. How would he know?

RegDwigнt

Perhaps you can ask in ELL chat?

jokerdino

@tchrist Got it.

RegDwigнt

I don't know how active it is.

Jasper Loy

OK.

Cerberus

DLL chat.

tchrist

3:11 PM

@jokerdino Those are the ones I had intended to flag, but I might have mispasted the ID.

RegDwigнt

Or the GLU chat, for that matter.

Matt Эллен

GLU chat

jinx!

RegDwigнt

Jinx.

Jasper Loy

Anyway, the Teach Yourself series is in bookstores all over this island.

RegDwigнt

Meta-jinx.

Matt Эллен

3:11 PM

jinx

RegDwigнt

You can ask on Skeptics, too.

Matt couldn't think of that one.

jokerdino

@tchrist You did.

Matt Эллен

RegDwigнt

@MattЭллен that is very confusing. It is made in the manner of those charts where specific areas mean something. And I wouldn't know why the upper left, of all things, causes obesity.

tchrist

@jokerdino Apologies. I um um um get me a mod room for thee and me and I can continue talking about this if you want. This isn’t really the place for it. But there’s not much more to say than those 3 hits for your site, IIRC.

RegDwigнt

3:13 PM

Tis okay we've all been ignoring the both of you.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwigнt lol

tchrist

heh

5

4

jokerdino

@tchrist I only really wanted to let you know that your flag was weird.

tchrist

3

RegDwigнt

Tweened.

tchrist

3:14 PM

2

Twice.

So, I'm out now.

Now thrice.

1

suprice

3:14 PM

@jokerdino Yah ok, I’m a dingbat. And yes, there are code points for that.

RegDwigнt

Soupçon?

Jasper Loy

I think I will take a nap now.

tchrist

Hey hot stuff, whatcha got cookin in that there pipe of yers? Ganjer?

RegDwigнt

I think I will take a rap now.

My posse is on Broadway.

tchrist

I just awoke from one.

RegDwigнt

3:16 PM

Wasn't my posse.

tchrist

Today I got up when Andrew did for the love of all that’s holy!

Cerberus

O, dear.

How early is that?

RegDwigнt

Who did Andrew do for the love?

tchrist

@Cerberus Midnight localtime. Pain-management issues.

RegDwigнt

Or is Holly her name?

Cerberus

3:17 PM

Aww.

That sucks.

RegDwigнt

You're a baker now?

Cerberus

No, silly, he did her for.

She was done for.

Who?

She.

Halle Maria Berry (born Maria Halle Berry; August 14, 1966) is an American actress and former fashion model. She won an Academy Award for Best Actress in 2002 for her performance in Monster's Ball, becoming the first and, as of 2014, the only woman of African-American descent to win an Oscar for a leading role. She was one of the highest paid actresses in Hollywood during the 2000s and has been involved in the production side of several of the films in which she performed. Berry is also a Revlon spokesmodel. Before becoming an actress, Berry entered several beauty contests, finishing as the 1st...

RegDwigнt

3:18 PM

Ugh.

Cerberus

@tchrist By the way, the Dutch government is giving money to universities if they make it so that their students do not travel by train during rush hour (so they will have to make classes start at 10 rather than at 9, presumably).

RegDwigнt

I see she's a Maria. Jasper can have her.

Cerberus

Hehe.

I bet he would.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus um, they do realize the students just stay at home, right.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt I expect five Halle Berries and one Rosemarie out of you for that blasphemy.

Cerberus

3:19 PM

Not enough, apparently.

And most classes are probably compulsory...

RegDwigнt

@tchrist that would be too much, too soon.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt s/h(?=a)/s/

RegDwigнt

Stop confusing Cerberus.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt It’s a dirty job, but somebody’s gotsa dooze it.

RegDwigнt

Also when did anyone save any Maria. Porn stars to drives do not count.

tchrist

3:21 PM

Anyway, he sprecks the language of kings: rex, reges.

RegDwigнt

I am really confused. People keep referring to @Jasper as either piggy or king. That is mighty confusing.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt That’s HRH Prince Swine, soon to be the Seventh of His Name, upon taking up the crown, orb, and sceptre, and the regnal name of George.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist also, I expect 3000 dollars out of you for calling "Ugh" a blasphemy over "Catwoman".

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Well, you’ll just have to hold your zebras, because I think Zimbabwe is a no-fly zone these days.

RegDwigнt

Not if I take Malaysia.

tchrist

3:24 PM

Risky move.

You just want it for the Spice.

RegDwigнt

I actually haven't seen Old Spice anywhere for like two decades. What ever happened to it?

tchrist

It’s still on our shelves. From back then. And then some.

RegDwigнt

They went straight from "a commercial every five minutes" to complete nonexistence except as tired references on third-grade shows.

And I am erring on the side of a compliment there.

tchrist

That’s because it is lost in the Zeitgeist of yesteryear, having long ago acquired un certain eau de grampère. Axe me again tomorrow what’s hip now.

RegDwigнt

Hip teens don't wear blue jeans, that I know.

Off to the commutomobile!

Cerberus

3:35 PM

I have never seen Old Spice.

nosmoking

Is it stupid to get back in studies at 29 after having worked 4 years and being now unemployed? I like the most to play with data, machine learning or maybe image processing too

Matt Эллен

no

nosmoking

another factor is my disorders, but I feel like I can overpass that, just keeping breathe when necessary...

Paris, however, is a bit risky, but since here in the South I see many smokers, I prefer being intoxicated elsewhere

can't be worse.. and studies will be something to hold onto

Matt Эллен

overpass should be overcome

nosmoking

noted, thanks

my studies will be something to cling to

Robusto

3:43 PM

Ha, someone just downvoted one of the very first answers I ever gave on ELU.

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A: Where are phrases such as "my one friend" used?

Actually, when someone says "my one friend" its meaning is contextual. Consider the following: "I'm 101 years old and my one friend just died." In this case, it's likely the speaker truly means he had but a single friend left. For clarification, he might have said "my one remaining friend," bu...

nosmoking

my very one friend

Robusto

It was actually the second question I ever answered here, almost four years ago.

Seems especially unkind for someone to be so callous. No downvotes on that baby till today.

nosmoking

I need to check if there are centenaries in Paris

There are too many disabled centenaries in France, maintained in life

When you can't do anything, sometimes it's better to just accept the evolution theory

sorry to sound rude

seems like Paris isn't too bad

MickLH

really, nosmoking?

nosmoking

@MickLH for what?

I'm serious, for everything

MickLH

3:57 PM

Ok then I'll have to go smoke outside

nosmoking

damn, you're one of these zombies, at least you go outside good :)

MickLH

lol; I was just playing with you, I actually am disgusted by cigarettes.

...because serious business

nosmoking

nice avatar

MickLH

<3

I'm not so great at giving compliments, or else I'd complement the eloquent balance of beautiful spatial continuity with such perplexing mobius-like warping in your avatar, @nosmoking

nosmoking

Figure-eight knot (mathematics)

In knot theory, a figure-eight knot (also called Listing's knot) is the unique knot with a crossing number of four. This is the smallest possible crossing number except for the unknot and trefoil knot. The figure-eight knot is a prime knot. == Origin of name == The name is given because tying a normal figure-eight knot in a rope and then joining the ends together, in the most natural way, gives a model of the mathematical knot. == Description == A simple parametric representation of the figure-eight knot is as the set of all points (x,y,z) where for t varying over the real numbers (see 2D visual...

MickLH

4:07 PM

I picked my avatar because it represents my taste in music.

Cerberus

Somehow I wonder whether that is realistic.

Johan Larsson

what is?

Freddy

@MickLH yours and mine avatar shows same thing, our taste of music

MickLH

:D

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson The cogs.

Johan Larsson

4:17 PM

nonstandard with different sizes for mr {blue, pink, yellow} other than that it is a planetary gear.

MickLH

also, in some industrial scenarios, they synthesize acoustic dubstep wobbles

(thus, fucking awesome, qed)

or more formally: GET Q'd BIZNATCH!

god I love clenching my jaw and raising my arm subtly and throwing it down suddenly as I snap my fingers, when I say that. I just won the argument get out of my house

oh god what have I done, I take it back, it's not me, I'm not like this

Mitch

5:08 PM

@nosmoking Stay out of the northeast!

@tchrist The Zeitgeist of yesteryear is getting all mixed up with the Weltanschauung of yesterday and the Schadenfreude of today. Morgen this is all gonna give me a huge Kopfschmerz.

Robusto

5:23 PM

@Mitch Morgen wird gebrochen.

Mitch

Von Katz Stefans

Johan Larsson

5:55 PM

in Lounge<C++> on Stack Overflow Chat, 9 mins ago, by Alex M.

Freddy

This guy think i am fool!!

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Q: Why I am getting following error when trying to start SDK manager?

I have a 64 bit- 20 GB Ubuntu partition which has very less usable space. So I have put Eclipse in my Ubuntu and downloaded sdks to a folder in my another partition. So when I try to start sdk manager, I am getting the following error in my console: Unexpected exception 'Cannot run program "/med...

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@JohanLarsson LOL

Listening Now

RegDwigнt

6:12 PM

49

A: When did it become correct to add an “s” to a singular possessive already ending in “‑s”?

Since, 1810, forms like James’s (which I will call type A) have generally been more commonly used than forms like James’ (type B), according to my research using the Corpus of Historical American English (COHA). I compared a number of names ending in -s looking for possessive forms with and with...

Damn it, nohat, how could you not include Chris in your research.

We now have to put up with this:

0

Q: Genitive form on words ending with "s"

I've found this discussion, where a guy claims that in British English it's correct to write Chris's donkey when talking about a single person named Chris and his ass. Does it mean that American English treats that differently?! If so, since when?

possessive

But closed anyway. If the OP is really interested in Chris and Chris alone, he should edit it accordingly.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So today I learned that the way to call something "awesome" in Mandarin is to say it's "most cow cunt". 最牛逼 -> zui niu bi

Matt Эллен

that's pronunciation, or the translation?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен That's the literal translation.

Matt Эллен

oh

that's... rustic

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

In fact they bowdlerize it somewhat by replacing the actual symbol for "cunt" with a rhyming word.

It is also written 牛B

Or shortened to 最牛 which means "most cow"

And THAT gets used in ads:

So that ad, says, essentially, "4G is most cow cunt"

meaning 4G is awesome

And here you can see chinglish handbags with the chinese phrase written in full

RegDwigнt

6:22 PM

I built the Ecto-1 yesterday and it's most cow cunt.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

奖给最牛逼的人 ("awarded to the most awesome person")

RegDwigнt

Well, technically I'm still building it. Done with the body and the minifigs, only the roof left.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I disassembled my restaurant/apartment yesterday.

I am nearly done disassembling everything that is to be disassembled.

It makes me a bit sad to do that. I put a lot of time into that.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 of course

KitFox

Hrm?

RegDwigнt

6:23 PM

Disassembling takes more time than assembling.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt nah

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it does when you do it right.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

it took me weeks to finish that model. It took me two hours to disassemble.

@RegDwigнt explain, please

RegDwigнt

I don't mean just the tearing down. I include the sorting. Also, why am I even defending my point, it is your point, I was seconding it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I sort as I disassemble.

RegDwigнt

6:24 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 not talking MOCs, obviously.

KitFox

Cunt is a pretty broad interpretation of that word.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 ah but that will only cost more time still.

Unless you mean the basic pre-sorting. Which is always happening anyway.

But if you go and put every individual part into its designated container before disconnecting the next individual part, that'll obviously take forevah.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox No, the actual character is 屄

But nobody writes it that way anymore

KitFox

逼?

RegDwigнt

So anyway. I was just going to quickly say that the Ecto-1 build is so ridiculously simple, it's outright insulting. I really enjoyed it a lot.

Freddy

6:27 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 @RegDwigнt You both should listen this used to be my favourite few years ago!!

KitFox

I thought that was more like rump or ass-end. Not exactly polite, but not exactly rude.

Freddy

Song is on lego house

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

that is, people are saying 牛屄 but writing 牛逼 because 屄 is vulgar.

RegDwigнt

It really makes you think all along, WTF, I could have come up with this. Yeah I could. But didn't. This guy did. And it probably took him months to make it so simple.

I like sets like that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt yeah, I guess building a large set from the box takes less time than sorting that set into the storage, but not much less. a huge set could easily take two hours or more to put together, and it can be disassembled in under an hour and sorted in under two.

This is how I pre-sort.

RegDwigнt

6:30 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that really takes PC to a whole nother level. Latin-alphabet-based languages can only dream of that. The closest English ever came to it is probably n-word, which is to say not really close at all.

KitFox

Must be like the dog's bollocks.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

each of those tubs corresponds to one of my large storage boxes.

@RegDwigнt yeah, well, as I said, they can (and do) also write 牛B

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 picture twice that number of parts, a table half that size, and no boxes, and that's how I presort.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

so not even using Chinese in the bowdlerization

@RegDwigнt so you're doing it wrong then.

RegDwigнt

No. I'm doing it fast.

I'm going to put it in a box anyway. So why put it in a different box first, that only has three parts in it and takes up a square foot.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:32 PM

Those boxes represent my storage system v2. (v1 was ziplocks). I hadn't finished even filling those boxes when it became clear that that system was doomed. Now I use those for staging parts on the way to or from storage.

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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Nah, it's much easier this way. My main boxes are 15" sq, these little ones are like 5" sq

RegDwigнt

I pre-sort by color, then when there's enough of some color, or I'm done with the disassembling, or the table is bursting, then a color or two go into their dedicated boxes.

KitFox

Aww, @Matt, you don't have to worry about it. All your debts are forgiven.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I can very quickly tear down a model into a handful of boxes, and then later get the big boxes out and fill them.

Matt Эллен

6:34 PM

@KitFox awww thanks :D

RegDwigнt

I would hate the idea of having to handle many different boxes. And by many I mean >1.

Types of boxes, that is.

KitFox

I rather like handling boxes.

RegDwigнt

I have exactly one type, and I'm sticking with it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt when I'm not using the little boxes, they stack up very nicely. Honestly they make things so much easier. Also they are super-cheap should I ever decide I need more.

My large boxes, the actual storage ones, I have in 3 varieties, but they all have the same footprint and stack nicely.

which reminds me I need to buy more dividers.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I still do that to an extent even with my approach. Almost every color has an intermediate unsorted box where I just dump it, or presort by type only very roughly, and then one day it can go to the many other boxes for that color that are completely properly sorted.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:36 PM

@RegDwigнt Ah, but I don't really sort by colour as much as by part type.

So, I have a box of hinges, a box of bars+claws, a box of SNOT bricks, etc.

RegDwigнt

Alternatively, I use that intermediate box for the actual building, as it is likely to contain a wide assortment of parts, and don't ever touch the other ones. Which are then basically long-term storage, I guess.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I started off like that. I think everyone always does.

These days I can't afford that with a few notable exceptions.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt Well, I started off by sorting by colour. That was v1.

RegDwigнt

Technic is still stored like that, by type with colors intermixed.

And the cheese slopes or other smaller parts.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy:

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I further sort parts by colour. Really, it's kinda a hybrid. Example: all the tan plates and brown plates and dark-tan plates are in one box. But all the LARGE plates are in another box. So large tan plates are in that box, not the first one I mentioned.

@MattЭллен lol

RutvikSutaria

6:39 PM

How can Lego movie get 7.9 imdb.com/title/tt1490017

RegDwigнt

But for the most part, the System bricks are sorted by color, then by type. And each box then comprises similar types. So I have a box of red angular bricks, and a box of green round things, and a box of blue plates, etc. etc.

Matt Эллен

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 success!

RegDwigнt

@Freddy I've only just noticed I'm still listening to Ed Sheeran, and it's like the fourth song by now.

Stop messing with me.

Very liminal of you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt I have boxes of black, dk-grey/dk-bley, lt-grey bricks and small plates; I have a box of brown+tan bricks and a separate box of brown+tan plates; etc, but the unpopular colours get all mixed together, sorted by type.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 so all you're saying you'll eventually be where I am, you're just slow.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

6:42 PM

@RegDwigнt well, it depends on the part type.

RegDwigнt

I am still waiting for the day when I will have a full box of just one part in just one color. And by waiting I mean hell no please no.

But it's likely to be a 2 by 2 dbley inverted slope.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt I almost have that: train tracks.

Freddy

@RutvikSutaria i never imdb 7.9 is nice or bad

RegDwigнt

If I really disassembled everything I got, I'm probably already there.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 ah, big ass-parts don't count.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt well, I have lots of track. two trains-worth plus some extra packs

but it fills one box almost fully.

RegDwigнt

6:43 PM

Actually, that reminds me of other giant ass-parts. Wheels. I forgot I have four and a half boxes of those.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt I had my wheels all sorted very nicely, but then I wanted that box for slopes, so I dumped them into one big box.

RegDwigнt

Actually I think one specific type of wheel, though those are actually small-ass, might win over the inverted dbley slopes. I almost have a full box of those as well.

You know, the typical City wheels that are literally in every set ever made.

RutvikSutaria

@Freddy Average, but it can't. that's unfair.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I never use wheels anyway, so the kids can just rummage.

RegDwigнt

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'd really like to compare the collections side-by-side, or really any two collections, to see if eventually the same kinds of parts win over.

Theoretically yes, they should.

Freddy

6:46 PM

@RutvikSutaria how many it should have?

RegDwigнt

Like the Technic pins, to go for the cheapest example.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwigнt I dunno what sets you buy, but dbley slopes are not even close to my most popular part/colour.

RutvikSutaria

3 or less

Freddy

lol