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@Thursagan If you don't use the right arrow, nobody knows what you are referring to. So you must be Thursagen's younger brother since he is also from Aus.

Thursagan

Sorry?

Cerberus

9:13 PM

But it is a location that you like?

Thursagan

@JasperLoy oh wow good try (giggle)

@Cerberus yes

Cerberus

Funny. Because there is no location on your profile.

user19161

@Thursagan Or maybe his younger sister, or his son or daughter.

Cerberus

That is proof enough that you are Thursagen. You confused your profiles.

Thursagan

@JasperLoy ooh really getting closer

@Cerberus I am not Thursagen.Final word

Cerberus

9:14 PM

You were accidentally thinking of the location on Thursagen.

Well, it seems clear enough.

Thursagan

@Cerberus we purposely chose the same location

user19161

@Thursagan Actually I know who you are. I'm just playing with you here.

Cerberus

Then how come yours is empty? You entered a location, but not on this profile.

Thursagan

@JasperLoy sssshhhh do not tell then

Cerberus

Well, I am done with this.

Thursagan

9:16 PM

I think I must have mucked it up I'll go enter it

Bogdan Lataianu

you are not the only one with three heads @Cerberus

user19161

@Thursagan Bye!

Thursagan

@JasperLoy bye

@BogdanLataianu um what was that meant to mean

Cerberus

@BogdanLataianu But at least sometimes one makes sense.

Thursagan

Sometimes yes

Thursagan

9:29 PM

I'm leaving

simchona

hi all...looks like I missed some interesting remarks

Mana

Well, that was certainly a thing.

simchona

How did 17 messages get deleted?

Grace Note

@simchona Dwig

simchona

What'd they say?

Grace Note

9:36 PM

Just a lot of fairly random stuff spouted from Thursagan, mostly about how we weren't talking.

simchona

Thursagen claims Thursagan is his brother in a comment somewhere

@Cerberus So is there a way to...take care of this?

user19161

@simchona Yes I saw that one. I suspected as well. Probably a young child.

simchona

@GraceNote It sounds like Chaos, but more annoying to more users

@JasperLoy I'm not sure he should be allowed in this chat, though, if so many of his messages tend get deleted

Grace Note

@simchona Eh?

simchona

@GraceNote Chaos often talks about how nobody is talking, but he can also write cohesively. He just doesn't capitalize. Or spell.

Grace Note

9:42 PM

@simchona Oh, ChaosGamer

user19161

And given the nature of Thursagen and Thursagan's English, I might even suspect that they are Singaporeans who have moved to Australia.

Grace Note

I got confused since we have ChaosGamer, the CHAOS team, and of course actual chaos.

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simchona

@JasperLoy That's interesting. Do Singaporeans use the phrase "mucked up"?

user19161

@simchona Well, no. :)

Grace Note

Also I'm busy educating myself that if you want to catch Boiled Octopus instead of a normal Octopus, you need to fish in a volcano

user19161

9:44 PM

Perhaps this explains the voting irregularities as well. Maybe his kiddy brother is always upvoting him.

user19161

@GraceNote Is that from one of your games?

Grace Note

@JasperLoy Possibly

Mana

@Jasper There are protective measures against that, though, and I don't think that can account for 10k rep

simchona

@JasperLoy Maybe. Is there a way to keep him out of chat if he's going to muck up the conversation and annoy @Cerberus though?

user19161

@simchona I think if we ignore him he won't return too often.

simchona

9:46 PM

@JasperLoy Got it. Ignore user initiative...START

user19161

It's a bit like your inner demons. Some fade when you ignore them, though others must be dealt with.

user19161

Watch 'A Beautiful Mind' and see how Nash ignores his delusions.

simchona

Hmmk

Mana

Wait, "given the nature of Thursagen's...English"

What does that mean?

user19161

@Mana It just sounds a bit weird to me and somewhat similar to how some people would speak.

user19161

9:49 PM

Here I mean.

Martha

@JasperLoy @Mana (Where "here" = "Singapore")

Mana

Oh, no, I meant the one with 10k rep

oh

user19161

@Mana If you look at Thursagen's answers, they are pretty weird too.

Martha

@JasperLoy But he does seem to have a better command of the English language than what we just saw in chat.

user19161

@Martha Martha always enters the room without any sound.

user19161

9:52 PM

@Martha Since that was his little brother as we guessed.

Martha

@JasperLoy (Shhh... the trick is, I was here already, but don't tell anyone)

user19161

Big brother said so himself that that is his brother.

Martha

@JasperLoy But why would the little brother speak so much worse English?

user19161

@Martha He might just be 5 years old?

Martha

I believe SE has a minimum age requirement of 13.

FallenAngelEyes

9:53 PM

@Martha Why do young teenagers in the US whose first language is English tYpE leik this sumtimez

simchona

@Martha Jasper said to ignore him in chat so he goes away

@FallenAngelEyes I checked the Bridge. You said he followed you in, but I don't think he stayed long

Grace Note

@Martha It does

user19161

@Martha True, but 13 is quite young too, and age can be faked.

FallenAngelEyes

@simchona He didn't stay long, nay. 'Twas weird.

Martha

@simchona Oh, I ignored him shortly after I posted

57 mins ago, by Martha

@JasperLoy I dunno, but I'm gonna have to start ignoring our 3i clone if he can't learn to type better.

simchona

9:54 PM

@Martha That's probably a good idea. Too many "HEY WHY AM I TYPING SO MUCH FASTERRRRRRR"

I thought y'all were just good at selective attention

From his profile: location 54 Horizon Blvd.

FallenAngelEyes

@simchona That's what I usually use. I don't like actually using "ignore" features in chats because it's weird to me to miss information.

user19161

There are many young girls here who like to alternate between small and big letters. It really disgusts me (the style, not the people). But I've grown used to it. They think it is cute but it is the opposite.

user19161

What is cute? Justin Bieber is cute!

simchona

@JasperLoy BuT wHy WoUlD yOu ThInK iTs NoT cUtE? ^^ ^^ ^^

FallenAngelEyes

@simchona ...Thanks, you were just responsible for the suicide of several of my brain cells.

user19161

9:57 PM

@simchona Do your Sing friends do that regularly?

simchona

@FallenAngelEyes It took me way too long to type that

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes However I do like the >_>!

simchona

@JasperLoy Nope. My Sing friend is male.

Martha

@simchona s/to/too

user19161

@simchona It would be worse if a guy wrote like that.

FallenAngelEyes

9:59 PM

@simchona Haha, I know how that goes. I have a character that I RP who sometimes types like that, and it's difficult to do it. :P

simchona

@Martha Shoot. Thanks.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy You're obsessed with the eyes!

Alain Pannetier

Wow. There's always something going on in here... I nearly missed today's happening!

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes Ya, and with JB!

simchona

@FallenAngelEyes It's an Asian emoticon thing. It's all in the eyes.

FallenAngelEyes

10:00 PM

@simchona Hehe yeah, I love looking at lists of Japanese emoticons. They're so complex and expressive.

user19161

@AlainPannetier It's exciting everyday actually.

Martha

@AlainPannetier /innocently/ Why, what happened today?

Whoops, gotta go.

Alain Pannetier

Late mee sea if I can taipe in ze darke

user19161

@AlainPannetier I see. Actually that was not so exciting!

simchona

@FallenAngelEyes There's actually a study that says that Japanese people look at eyes for emotion, so their emoticons reflect that. Americans look at the mouth, so their emoticons reflect that instead.

Alain Pannetier

10:01 PM

No difference with when I type in the day it seems.

FallenAngelEyes

I seem to remember reading about that. I use a mix of the two.

user19161

@simchona I usually look somewhere around the nose, since it's weird to keep looking at the eyes.

user19161

@AlainPannetier I remember you have some eyesight problems.

FallenAngelEyes

I think emoticons like (,,#ﾟДﾟ) are just hilariously awesome

Alain Pannetier

What's (,,#ﾟДﾟ) supposed to represent?

user19161

10:04 PM

Do girls in the US and Eur like to alternate between big and small letters too?

RegDwight

It says that a part of your face looks Russian.

FallenAngelEyes

@AlainPannetier It's an angry face

Grace Note

@JasperLoy Not to my knowledge, because it's oogly

RegDwight

See.

FallenAngelEyes

The little circles are the eyes, the mouth is open as if enraged, the # is the cheeks coloring from emotion

user19161

10:05 PM

@RegDwight We guessed that Thursagan is Thursagen's younger brother.

FallenAngelEyes

,, are sweatdrops from anger

RegDwight

@JasperLoy I read the transcript.

Alain Pannetier

Right, Gromyko had a large nose indeed.

RegDwight

That was unexpected.

simchona

By the way "54 Horizon Blvd" does not exist. Anywhere. Google said so.

user19161

10:06 PM

@simchona What is this. Thursagan's location?

Alain Pannetier

@JasperLoy I can see we're also in genealogy now then!

simchona

@JasperLoy Yes

user19161

Thursagan is probably reading the transcript now, with Thursagen.

RegDwight

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A: Is "How come" proper usage or slang?

So my question is, is using how come in the example conversational slang? Yes, it is part of spoken speech, but very rarely in written speech. And also, is "How come you are angry?" proper english? No, "how come" is not proper English. It's colloquial, or informal. The actual phrase ...

> "how come" is not proper English. It's colloquial, or informal. The actual phrase is "how came"

user19161

Maybe tomorrow Thursagin will come, then Thursagon and Thursagun.

RegDwight

10:10 PM

And then they will start substituting a's with а's.

user19161

The whole family will be here.

user19161

Then maybe Thurs- to Fri-.

RegDwight

And o's with о's.

It will be fun.

Like googling for bееr and not finding anything.

Wow, 2600 hits, actually.

Impressive.

user19161

@reg you vowed to zeus you would sleep three hours earlier. Zeus read the transcript you know!

RegDwight

@JasperLoy And three hours earlier I slept. But the very nature of now prevents it from ever being three hours earlier.

user19161

10:15 PM

And Pacerier!

RegDwight

Overflow overflow.

user19161

OK gotta go.

RegDwight

Have fun.

simchona

There were a bunch of "fix this sentence" questions by the same person this morning

Also...he's backkkkk

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Q: What does "fly against" mean?

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/11/stop-me-if-you-think-youve-seen-this-word-before.html: I'm not sure this kind of experiment would fly against today's Google, but it worked in 2004. What does 'fly against' mean in this case?

Jez

evening all

simchona

10:25 PM

Hi @Jez

Jez

it is so hot and humid here.

never gonna be able to sleep.

simchona

@Reg Why were we upset with Pcr again? I kind of forgot.

RegDwight

You can look it up, though. :P

simchona

@Reg Was that why? Low quality posts?

RegDwight

His two posts since the come back are at 6. His two last posts before that were at -14.

simchona

10:37 PM

@Reg That's good. Hopefully the uptick will continue

I need something to do. I think I'll edit. Lots.

Cerberus

10:51 PM

@simchona I think the moderators will do something if he keeps annoying people.

simchona

@Cerberus We'll see what happens, then

OMG WHY AM I TYPING SO MUCH FASTER THAN YOUUUU

Cerberus

@simchona You are a beast.

simchona

@Cerberus Actually, I'm a kitten. You're the three-headed dog.

Cerberus

We're equally beastly then.

simchona

Well then. But is a teddy bear worse?

FallenAngelEyes

11:05 PM

@simchona I did not realize your avatar was a kitten. It's adorable!

simchona

@FallenAngelEyes Thanks! It's from DailySquee. And the hand is male. I am not male. Just clearing that up.

FallenAngelEyes

Hehe, gotcha.

simchona

11:26 PM

It's a slow day on EL&U

simchona

11:40 PM

Hi @Spare

aedia

Wake up wake up! clangs dinner bell

simchona

Hi @aedia

Cerberus

Hullo!

Food?

aedia

Hi!

simchona

Not fair, Cerberus. You eat three times as much

Cerberus

11:50 PM

eyes moving wildly about

True.

aedia

Almost home for dinner. I can't wait.

Cerberus

By the way:

Fall from Heaven is really divine.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus I never played that mod

Cerberus

It took me a bit of time to get the knack of it, but now it is great.

FallenAngelEyes

Assuming you're talking about what I think you're talking about

Cerberus

11:51 PM

You should!

Yes.

It is great.

FallenAngelEyes

I have so much other stuff to plaaaay, haha

Cerberus

I know but but...

If you're a Civ freak, I guarantee you will love it.

aedia

Ooh. I might have to look into getting it.

Cerberus

I was a bit sceptical, and at first I found all the new things a bit confusing. And I still do—but now they are confusing in a gorgeous way!

I mean, I wasn't looking, and suddenly some Hellish civilization with mightily scary units has popped up in my backyard.

FallenAngelEyes

Yeah, I own the Civilization Chronicles as well as the Civ V Collector's Edition, 'tis safe to say I'm a fan :D

Cerberus

11:53 PM

I thought it was just barbarian country, I could take that. Barbarians are much stronger than in Civ, but still manageable at the medium difficulty levels.

@FallenAngelEyes Haha cool! But what about the Civ IV expansions? Are they included?

I haven't even played V yet.

Is it good?

aedia

Games don't take up any of the space I don't have...

FallenAngelEyes

They weren't, as they weren't out yet, but I have those separately.

Cerberus

@aedia Indeed they don't! And FfH is free!

@FallenAngelEyes Ah, cool.

You sound freakish enough to love FfH!

Unless you are opposed to anything magical on principle.