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12:53 AM
lol
Girls: "Eww!! I'm going to throw it away"
Boys: "Hey come and smell it!!"
lol at second fact
 
1:53 AM
@Cerberus Græcum est; non legitur.
That's Greek to me or It's (all) Greek to me is an idiom/dead metaphor in English, expressing that something is not understandable. The idiom is typically used with respect to the foreign nature, complexity or imprecision of verbal or written expression or diagram, often containing excessive use of jargon, dialect, mathematics, science, symbols, or diagrams. The metaphor makes reference to Greek (either ancient or modern), as an archetypal foreign form of communication both written and spoken. Origins It may have been a direct translation of a similar phrase in ("it is Greek, [therefore]...
CASSIUS: Did Cicero say any thing?
CASCA: Ay, he spoke Greek.
CASSIUS: To what effect?
CASCA: Nay, an I tell you that, I'll ne'er look you i' the face again: but those that understood him smiled at one another and shook their heads; but, for mine own part, it was Greek to me. I could tell you more news too: Marullus and Flavius, for pulling scarfs off Caesar's images, are put to silence. Fare you well. There was more foolery yet, if I could remember it.
Scarfs, Bill? For me, scarfs is a verb, for chowing down in a trice. Scarves is my noun.
 
I only know the plural version.
 
Curious.
I the singular.
Are you perhaps referring to texts not to text?
(I’m speaking of English, not looking for gender etc concordance.)
The bicameral one seems to be missing something.
Like, imbalanced.
Aesthetically.
The head on his right, our left, is symmetric about the left one, as though it were the center one.
So they drew a proper three-headed doggy and decapitated one head.
Interesting that he is a red creature not a black one.
I mean, the little one.
The big one is both red and black.
Red=fire, black=death
I would have always thought all Cerberi to be black=underworld.
Wouldn’t’ve thought of fire.
 
@tchrist What do you mean?
 
I do like how the big one is a Guardian of all graveyards.
 
@tchrist Thanks.
 
2:03 AM
@Cerberus I mean, what is in your head when you use the plural? What sort of antecedent?
 
But why "-cameral"?
 
Because I think of the chambers of the mind, not of cephalopods.
 
@tchrist Oh, the neuter plural is often used to refer to things written or spoken, like verba.
 
Well, yes.
"Stuff"
Verba deleta sunt. :)
Fetch me the whiteout!
Well, brownout.
 
The word "haec" without a noun or specific antecedent, for example, normally means "these things/words that were spoken/written".
 
2:04 AM
Beigeout?
 
Just as his often means "with these words".
Etc.
 
Tutnese or Double Dutch is a language game primarily used in English, although the rules can be easily modified to apply to almost any language. Tutnese is usually used by children, who use it to converse in (perceived) privacy from adults (or vice versa); by members of historically marginalized minority groups for the same reason when in the presence of authority figures such as police ("pupolulisus" or "pizolizice"); or simply for amusement and humor. Language rules In it, vowels are pronounced normally, but each consonant is replaced with a syllable from the following table: {| clas...
 
As to "two-headed Cerberus", they must mean my dear brother Orthrus:
 
I’ve known people who did that as kids, with variations on that them.
 
:For the genus of jumping spiders, see Orthrus. In Greek mythology, Orthrus (Orthros) or Orthus (Orthos) () was a two-headed dog and a doublet ("brother") of Cerberus, both whelped by the chthonic monsters Echidna and Typhon. He was owned by the three-bodied giant, Geryon. Orthrus and his master, Eurytion, were charged with guarding Geryon's herd of red cattle in the "sunset" land of Erytheia ("red one"), one of the islands of the Hesperides in the far west of the Mediterranean. Heracles eventually slew Orthrus, Eurytion, and Geryon, before taking the red cattle to complete his tenth l...
 
2:08 AM
Orcus?
 
Not Orcus.
 
Howsad.
D&D’s Supplement IV, Gods, Demigods, and Heroes, debuted both Orcus and Demogorgon.
 
Orcus is often conflated with my master.
 
Orcus is the fictional demon prince, and lord of the undead in many campaign settings for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game. He is named after Orcus of Roman mythology. His symbol is a mace with a human skull as the head. Orcus is one of the most detailed demon lords of the Dungeons & Dragons game and one of a small handful to be detailed in every edition of the game. Orcus was also named as one of the greatest villains in D&D history by the final print issue of Dragon. Publication history Dungeons & Dragons (1974-1976) Orcus was first presented in the Eldritch Wizardry s...
That pic was drawn by my old--and late--friend Dave.
Drank himself to death because his wife Diane was a harridan. Liver quit.
 
Oh, dear.
 
2:13 AM
Oh, he was first in Supplement III? I guess that makes sense.
@Cerberus Yeah.
> Orcus is first described in Eldritch Wizardry as a "grossly fat demon lord" covered in goat-like hair, 15 feet tall, with a goat-like head and legs, and the horns of a ram rather than those of a goat. His arms are human, but "Vast bat wings sprout from his back, and his long, snaky tail is tipped with a poisonous head".
> The Book of Vile Darkness describes Orcus as "a massive, bloated demon prince - bloated on spite, bile, and contempt." The book goes on to say that "Orcus is no longer content to grow old and fat on the larvae in his castle. He focuses his anger and hate on the absolute destruction of his enemies and the spread of woe and havoc among mortals. Truly a demon reborn, Orcus is more terrible and dangerous than ever."
> The fourth edition Monster Manual describes Orcus as "one of the most powerful demons in the Abyss — powerful enough to threaten gods". It describes him as a "foul and corpulent humanoid creature who has powerful goat legs and a desiccated head similar to that of a ram.
 
I'm not sure he would agree with that description.
 
> His great wings stir up a reeking cloud of diseased air. He seems somewhere between life and death — his sore-ridden body suggests diseased life, but his head and glowing red eyes suggest undeath. His thick, spiny tail is in constant motion."
You and orcs = Orcus
Holy shit, that is one long Whippypedia Cage!
Like, way.
> The Kuiper belt object 90482 Orcus is named after Orcus. This was because Orcus was sometimes considered to be another name for Pluto, and also because Pluto and 90482 Orcus are both plutinos.
Anglophones would do better with Kuiper if one were to delete the u.
Ask any gy on the street and see that he doesn’t agree.
I must away. Far past my bedtime it is.
 
Night.
 
This video gets really scary after 0:13
 
 
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@snailboat Very nice.
I always knew there was something (medi)evil about you...
 
Good evening.
 
Evening.
The snails attack...
 
Oh no! Why can't we all be friends?
 
That is what scholars are trying to find out.
The article suggests a connection with Lombards.
 
4:25 AM
Well, let's start by befriending the snails. That means no more escargot, Mr Cerberus.
 
Meh, I don't care for molluscs anyway, not in that way.
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Do you?
They're so rubbery, present company excepted.
 
Oh, no, I wouldn't eat them, given the opportunity.
 
Why not?
Not even to try?
gasp
 
Yeah.
I'm not pregnant, no.
Haha.
 
Right!
 
4:32 AM
You've received it, then?
 
So why is this fact I read a secret?
 
shrugs
 
It doesn't seem terribly atrocious?
 
Eh, I don't know. I don't feel like needing to publicly explain myself for any reason.
 
Oh, sure.
You don't owe anyone an explanation.
 
4:33 AM
Yeah, I know.
It's never really come up until now, either.
Maybe someday I'll make an announcement. It's really not that important though.
 
The room will tremble!
 
On another note, something else is going quite well.
 
Oh!
That's great.
 
Yeah!
 
Well as in certain wingèd insects?
 
4:37 AM
What?
Locusts?
 
Haha.
No.
Ones that pupate.
 
Those don't really have wings though, do they.
 
I believe they do?
 
Oh, they do, you're right!
Moths?
Caterpillars?
 
Think nice insects.
A moth, but nicer.
 
4:40 AM
Looks like I missed that connection, haha.
I'm still not exactly sure what you're trying to say though.
 
Well, I mean when these insects appear in the human body.
When one has them in a certain acidic organ.
Am I being too cryptic?
I am thinking perhaps the association is slightly less positive on your continent.
 
No, I understand.
I mean, sure. It applies.
 
Ah!
That is very interesting.
And I assume it is to a considerable extent symmetrical?
 
Yes indeed!
 
Perfect!
 
4:45 AM
Rather.
 
How often does three-dimensional communication occur?
 
Somewhat frequently.
 
Several times a week?
 
Yeah.
 
Good.
 
4:47 AM
@Mahnax, Irrelevant, but who is this person in your profile picture? Doesn't look like Shakespear.
 
And is there any chance that upstairs will be notified?
 
@Mistu4u Dostoevsky.
 
Hi!
 
@Cerberus They know already?
 
Oh! OK.
 
4:48 AM
@Mahnax Ah, Russian novelist.
 
@Cerberus I love moths! :-) I think they're nice.
 
@Mistu4u Yep. You read any of his stuff?
 
@Cerberus Hi and good morning.
 
(What do they think? No issues?)
 
@Mahnax No did not have the opportunity to read.
 
4:48 AM
None at all!
 
Some people have pet moths.
 
@snailboat Have you read Perdido Street Station?
 
@Mistu4u Ah, OK.
 
@Cerberus I'm afraid not! I've heard of it, is all
 
OK.
You'll never look at moths the same way...
 
4:49 AM
And with that, it goes on the to-read list!
 
But I don't dislike them, I don't kill them, except the small ones, because I never know which ones ruin clothes.
 
@Cerberus I kill Indian meal moths.
 
Yay! I can highly recommend PSS, if you like "new weird" fantasy.
 
I feel a little bad about it when I do it, but they are pests.
 
What do they do?
Erect totem poles whenever you're having a meal?
 
4:50 AM
They eat your grains! Graaaains
 
Oh noes!
 
Cornmeal used to be called Indian meal
 
That's not what Miéville's moths do...
Ah I see!
 
How about this as a pet choice?
 
That's very interesting.
 
4:51 AM
 
Indian meal became cornmeal, but Indian meal moths (sometimes Indianmeal moths) never got with the times.
 
Scary!
 
Before I was born, my parents kept a pet snake in my room.
 
I bet maize was once called Indian corn!
 
@Cerberus How can one differentiate if the talker is talking about Indians or Red Indians?
@snailboat Noe that's real scary.
 
4:53 AM
@Mistu4u Impossible, I would say.
Only context can help you.
 
@Cerberus Well that's sad and rather perplexing.
 
@Mistu4u I'm used to the term Native American, though my native friends call themselves various things, sometimes more specific. I try to reserve Indian for referring to India, but not everyone does that. Some people say American Indian to distinguish
I don't think I can recall hearing people say Red Indian, which sounds vaguely offensive (?)
 
@snailboat A normal Indian who is from India, how can you tell him American Indian to distinguish?
 
The reason is that Columbus expected to arrive in India / the Indies, I think (although he knew he wasn't there yet when he landed in America). And the Indies was a rather vague term, it could be various places in Asia, such as Indo-nesia.
 
@Mistu4u I mean an American Indian would be a Native American, as distinguished from an Indian, who would be from India
 
4:55 AM
@snailboat Yea, sounds offensive truly.
@snailboat Ah. I see.
 
Although Indian I think is ambiguous: is it about India geographically or ethnically?
I think people use the term both ways
 
@Cerberus I thought he thought he found Japan.
 
@Mistu4u I thought he knew Asia had to be farther away?
 
In the U.S., most people would get confused if you referred to people from India as Asian
 
It's all very confusing.
 
4:57 AM
@Cerberus I might be wrong although.
 
We should look it up...
 
Anyway, since I've always worked with a lot of people from India, for most of my adult life Indian has been pretty unambiguously a term to refer to India, but I'm not sure how true that is for other Americans
 
Vasko-de-Gama found India, I think. He also discovered Island of good hope, I guess.
@snailboat Very confusing. I don't know if Asian is an offensive term too?
Referring to black labours there in the colonial ages perhaps!
 
@Mistu4u Asian is definitely not an offensive term here
 
@snailboat Then it's okay.
 
5:02 AM
My pet snail is eating a slice of pear. :-)
 
> In his letter, Christopher Columbus claims to have discovered and taken possession of a series of islands on the edge of the Indian Ocean in Asia. He described the islands, particularly Hispaniola and Cuba, exaggerating their size and wealth, and suggested that mainland China probably lay nearby.
So you were right!
 
In his first journey, Columbus visited San Salvador in The Bahamas (which he was convinced was Japan), Cuba (which he thought was China) and Hispaniola (where he found gold).
This is from wiki.
 
At least I won the game of announcing your victory.
 
Haha. :-)
In the early modern period, the voyages of Columbus initiated European exploration and colonization of the American continents, and are thus of great significance in world history. Christopher Columbus was a navigator and an admiral for Castile, a country that later founded modern Spain. He made four voyages to the Americas, with his first in 1492, which resulted in what is considered by European Americans as the Discovery of America or Discovery of the Americas. The discovery of the Americas has variously been attributed to others, depending on context and definition. For example, Asia...
This man first dicovered real India.
D. Vasco da Gama () (c. 1460 or 1469 – 23 December 1524), 1st Count of Vidigueira, was a Portuguese explorer, one of the most successful in the Age of Discovery and the commander of the first ships to sail directly from Europe to India. He is one of the most famous and celebrated explorers from the Discovery Ages, being the first European to reach India by sea. This discovery was very significant and paved the way for the Portuguese to establish a long lasting colonial empire in Asia. The route meant that the Portuguese would not need to cross the highly disputed Mediterranean nor th...
In fact, there is a state by his name in India, Goa.
 
Right!
Goa is named after Da Gama?
 
5:09 AM
AFAIK!
Check the web for certainty.
Fromw wiki
"The port city of Vasco da Gama in Goa is named after him, as is the crater Vasco da Gama on the Moon"
 
Ah, there is a city!
Funny.
> Where Columbus did differ from the generally accepted view of his time is his (very incorrect) arguments that assumed a significantly smaller diameter for the Earth, claiming that Asia could be easily reached by sailing west across the Atlantic.
Most scholars accepted Ptolemy's correct assessment that the terrestrial landmass (for Europeans of the time, comprising Eurasia and Africa) occupied 180 degrees of the terrestrial sphere, and dismissed Columbus' claim that the Earth was much smaller, and that Asia was only a few thousand nautical miles to the west of Europe. Columbus' error was
So Columbus was a fool and everyone in Europe knew that wasn't Asia.
 
@Cerberus But we should salute him for venturing the ascent and making the throne agree for sponsoring him.
I guess he could be a good MBA now-a-days :-)
@Cerberus I have never been to there.
 
@Mistu4u Yeah, well, he was not a nice man.
He captured, killed, and enslaved many Indians.
 
@Cerberus Don't know much about his biography.
 
He set up a network of slave trade, says the Wiki.
> The true circumference of the Earth is about 40,000 km (25,000 sm), a figure established by Eratosthenes in the 2nd century BC,[13] and the distance from the Canary Islands to Japan 19,600 km (12,200 sm).
No ship that was readily available in the 15th century could carry enough food and fresh water for such a journey. Most European sailors and navigators concluded, probably correctly, that sailors undertaking a westward voyage from Europe to Asia non-stop would die of thirst, scurvy or starvation long before reaching their destination.
 
5:15 AM
@Cerberus AFAIK, if he could not have seen the land in time, he most likely was going to be killed in a few days. Sailors were thirsty and hungry for a long time.
 
That, too.
 
@Cerberus How to send chat this way?
 
@Mistu4u > Hello, I am a quotation.
If your quotation is too long, you need to put a shift-enter somewhere in it.
 
`On September 8, 1492, Columbus observed that the needle of his compass no longer pointed to the North star.[26] The needle instead had varied a half point to the Northwest, and continued to vary further as the journey progressed.
Columbus at first made no mention of this, knowing his crew to be prone to panic with their destination unknown, but after several days his pilots took notice with much anxiety. Allegedly the crew grew so homesick and fearful that they threatened to sail back to Spain. Columbus reasoned that the needle didn't point to the North star, but to some invisible point on
@Cerberus Got it :)
 
No, no, you need ">".
I added the `` just to make the > visible.
Remove the `.
 
5:23 AM
> On September 8, 1492, Columbus observed that the needle of his compass no longer pointed to the North star.
The needle instead had varied a half point to the Northwest, and continued to vary further as the journey progressed. Columbus at first made no mention of this, knowing his crew to be prone to panic with their destination unknown, but after several days his pilots took notice with much anxiety. Allegedly the crew grew so homesick and fearful that they threatened to sail back to Spain. Columbus reasoned that the needle didn't point to the North star, but to some invisible point on th
 
Yay!
Yeah I read that part.
 
@Cerberus Hmm.
 
@Mistu4u You did it! It's time for congratulating again.
 
But look at this.
Why did he think he had arrived near Japan?
 
@snailboat That's a really nice thing to congratulate for :-)
 
5:24 AM
Did he think Japan was a lot farther to the south than it really is?
 
@Mistu4u Well, thank you! I put some thought into which actions I congratulate people on.
 
Hmm it is bed time for me.
 
@Cerberus Yeah, that remains a mystrey to me.
 
Right.
So good morning/night to you both!
 
@Cerberus It can be a really good question for History.SE!
@Cerberus Ah! Good night.
Have a dreamy night!
:)
 
5:25 AM
Yeah! You could ask it.
Thanks.
Bye!
 
@Mistu4u Yeah, it could be!
 
poof
 
@Cerberus This thing is awesome. Thanks. It can give one an insight.
 
Maps are fun!
Okay, now really bye!
 
Bye.
 
5:45 AM
Asked it. But sadly traffic to that site is low. So it will take time to get any answer.
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Q: Why did Columbes think he had arrived nead Japan?

Mistu4uThis question comes to our mind as a long discussion in chat between some users over ELU including me and we thought to post the question here. Wikipedia states he thought he had arrived Japan. In his first journey, Columbus visited San Salvador in The Bahamas (which he was convinced was Japa...

 
6:07 AM
Guys, is half byte called nibble?
 
@EnglishMaster Four bits.
 
It's interesting how people named nybble as nibble
and bite as byte
But why? =( I like bite more than byte
 
@EnglishMaster Well you can bite from byte and create a bite in byte making it a bite of byte. (if you know what I mean) ;)
 
Sorry I don't get it
anyways, thanks
 
@EnglishMaster Well it has become too hard to explain, just look up a dictionary for all the meanings of "bite", hopefully you will understand. :-)
 
6:20 AM
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Is that your life?
 
I'm trying not to live that way.
 
I live like that
 
@cyberskull Same as mine :D
@EnglishMaster If you are interested:-
"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatically correct sentence in American English, used as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated linguistic constructs. It has been discussed in literature since 1972 when the sentence was used by William J. Rapaport, an associate professor at the University at Buffalo. It was posted to Linguist List by Rapaport in 1992. It was also featured in Steven Pinker's 1994 book The Language Instinct as an example of a sentence that is "seemingly nonsensical" but grammatical. Pinker nam...
Or
"James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher" is an English sentence used to demonstrate lexical ambiguity and the necessity of punctuation, which serves as a substitute for the intonation, stress, and pauses found in human speech. In human information processing research, the sentence has been used to show how readers depend on punctuation to give sentences meaning, especially in the context of scanning across lines of text. The sentence is sometimes presented as a puzzle, where the solver must add the punctuation. The example refers to two ...
 
6:31 AM
I hate when some people say Koreans are racist.
 
why do they say that?
 
I don't know, because I'm not racist. But some people are really sensitive about experiencing racism and they must write a news article about it
 
@EnglishMaster First in my life, I hear that.
 
@EnglishMaster My internet is kinda slow now as I am in a village now. Will you tell the gist?
 
6:37 AM
I don't know, maybe some Korean guy told this gentleman "Go back to your home country" or something. But this happens everywhere, last time some kid called me "hut person" but I just simply ignored it.
 
@EnglishMaster I see. Racism is there in every country, more or less.
 
7:29 AM
MASS TEXT MASS TEXT
 
@snailboat excellent! that really interesting.
 
8:23 AM
@Mistu4u that's why my watsup message is "Don't be a racist hate everyone":p
 
 
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10:17 AM
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A: When should I use "Would", "Would have", "Will", and "Will have"?

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11:09 AM
@MattЭллен "Spam", really? What is it spamming?
 
@Mistu4u spam, as in unwanted content
it is spamming us with noise
anyway. it's been deleted now
 
@AnkitSharma A hater on the issue of color is racist by definition. So it is a way around saying to be a racist.
@MattЭллен Yeah. that's why I can't see. :-)
 
Yeah :)
 
@Mistu4u yup i know the definition :p
@CrazyBuddy hi
 
@AnkitSharma Hey ;-)
 
11:25 AM
My God. An Indian colony is populating the place ;-)
 
@Mistu4u hahahah.....
Reminded me of that silly guy
 
@AnkitSharma Yeah, I intended to. :-P
Anyway it's nice to see you guys around here @AnkitSharma and @CrazyBuddy. I am sure Crazy is gonna stick to this room for ever now.
And make this room crazy with his tricky comments.
 
@Mistu4u but you know @CrazyBuddy has a habit of reading message silently most of the time. ;)
 
@Mistu4u No, I'm not..!!! I just sneak a peek...
 
@AnkitSharma huh, you are like tickeling me right now :P
 
11:30 AM
@AnkitSharma Yeah ;-)
 
@CrazyBuddy Like a true physics GEEK :-P
And please don't be meek
 
Finally you learned to rhyme :p
All credit goes to ELU
 
Actually before I did not get time
but don't take me I was a mime
But I don't do it for a dime
It works like on me as a lime :-D
@AnkitSharma Yeah ELU is a nice community.
 
@AnkitSharma I can be a rapper someday I guess!! :-P
 
11:55 AM
Guys, anyone knows anything about ARM?
 
@EnglishMaster Well arm is part of our hand. Other than that, I know nothing. :-/
 
@EnglishMaster I know a little, but not much. what do you want to know?
 
@EnglishMaster, Is it?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture
 

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