English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Conrado

1:19 AM

What did smoky say that was so bad it had to be censored?

Cerberus

@M.A.R. Hmm.

@Conrado Perhaps he reported himself and got stuck in a loop?

CowperKettle

alphabet

@Conrado I believe that, if someone deletes a post, the SmokeDetector message gets deleted also.

Conrado

Ah, that makes sense

Cerberus

@CowperKettle That is a bit much!

CowperKettle

1:25 AM

Yes, suspicious

Conrado

Are Legumes and Nuts so small as to be statistically negligible in the Typical Western Diet?

*takes a bit of sandwich

Criggie

Which nuts?

CowperKettle

Can You Tell Which Short Story ChatGPT Wrote? - NY Times

CowperKettle

1:57 AM

Czech climber Adam Ondra conquers El Capitan in Yosemite National Park with a free climb

Cerberus

@CowperKettle It looks impressive. But angles can be deceiving.

Criggie

2:12 AM

That's a hard-no from me.

tchrist

@Conrado Lots of ugly things. What this room thinks happened is not what happened. We have Laurel to thank for cleaning up 2 vile questions, 5 vile answers, and 34 vile comments that were all so disgustingly vile that you probably would not sleep well tonight if you read them out. She did the right thing here.

Plus the smokey notifications.

Conrado

Good on Laurel; I had no idea and my question was rather lighthearted. It was mostly because I think this is the first time that I saw Smokey's remarks deleted.

tchrist

Stomach-turning ones that Smokey couldn't help but copy out. We don't need those repeated, please.

Conrado

And may the giftie give Laurel the gift of forgetfulness, and sleep when it is time in Laurel's timezone.

tchrist

(Room owners and network mods can see the gross spoor poor Smokes left behind, but only site mods can see the fuller picture back on the main site. That covers almost everyone in this room though.)

@Conrado I deliberately didn't ping her because I'm really hoping she's asleep right now.

Conrado

2:24 AM

@tchrist Not me, but I don't wish to see or know--as I said it was a light hearted question, and I'm glad the Balrog seems to be properly dealt with by the competent authorities. Sorry for the faux pas.

tchrist

No, it's ok.

I just preferred not to leave a misunderstanding linger in the air.

Conrado

Thanks

tchrist

2:37 AM

@Conrado I just moments ago received from the Amazon gifting gods Almodóvar's new book of short stories: El último sueño. It's supposed to be good.

Retiring to read myself to sleep.

Cerberus

@CowperKettle It was easy to tell.

The GPT one was boring, no story there.

@tchrist Really, you wouldn't sleep well after reading those?

They seemed very basic and standard insults.

Nothing we haven't read countless times before.

tchrist

@Cerberus Yes but 40 times plus.

Cerberus

What do you mean?

I only read what was in the chat history.

tchrist

Ah.

Cerberus

I assumed the questions were deleted so I couldn't see them on the site.

tchrist

2:44 AM

I read the stuff that got deleted on the main site.

Well, you would be able to, of course.

Cerberus

Hmm but some of the questions are probably not deleted, let me look.

@tchrist I cannot see deleted questions.

Except mine own.

tchrist

Really?

I didn't know that.

Cerberus

Yup!

At least I seem to remember it that way?

Or was that just deleted comments?

tchrist

You can't see this?

Cerberus

At any rate, I have just looked at a deleted answer, and it was just the same as in the chat history but copied several times. Nothing shocking.

tchrist

2:46 AM

You can't see deleted comments unless you're a site mod. But you can see deleted posts if you have a link to them.

Yes, just crap.

Cerberus

@tchrist Oh, I can.

You're right, I confused questions and comments.

tchrist

The difference is you can only search for your own deleted posts.

But you can see anybody's.

Cerberus

Not if you don't have enough of a reputation.

tchrist

yes, that's the 10k bit

but anybody can see their own deleted posts now

you just can only pull up a list of them, or you deleted:1 in searches, for your own.

Cerberus

Hasn't everyone always been able to see his own deleted posts?

tchrist

2:50 AM

It's been touch and go. Mostly due to bugs, more than policy.

Criggie

I cannot see the deleted question, instead I see
`Page not found

This question was removed from English Language & Usage Stack Exchange for reasons of moderation. Please refer to the help center for possible explanations why a question might be removed.`

@tchrist Even as a mod on another site, I don't get that benefit cross-sites

tchrist

@Criggie You need 10k on ELU to see them.

I know.

Criggie

You need 10,000 Rep to see deleted questions on that site, OR be a mod on that site.

tchrist

Yes.

Criggie

Its something I've suggested in the past

tchrist

2:54 AM

Or it be your question. :)

Criggie

I mean - I can see the history of (removed) lines in chat.

My questions don't get deleted, I ask awesome thought-provoking questions

tchrist

It's been been unofficially asked for before. I imagine they think not being able to do that keeps nastiness from spreading between sites. Just like how you don't want to let people use deleted:1 in searches and dredge up junk that will just be messy. Not often, but sometimes.

We have almost no cross-network moderator abilities, at least, apart from those you already know about. It makes dealing with multisite problems harder sometimes, but I think they don't think it's worth the risk.

Criggie

Example: bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/37399/…

Vikas

@M.A.R. I was kidding.

Cerberus

@Criggie Moderators all have full moderation power over all chat, I believe. But not on main sites.

Criggie

3:05 AM

/kick @Cerberus Does this work ?

:sadpanda:

tchrist

Not quite.

Cerberus

So sad.

I don't know how kicking works anyway, never used it.

tchrist

Only site mods can see who raised a flag in one of their site's chat rooms, and even then only when it is active.

Criggie

Its an IRC thing from the pre-web days.

jesus I'm getting old

Cerberus

Oh, really?

tchrist

3:06 AM

Yes.

Cerberus

Hmm.

I'm not sure whether we have ever had a flag in the Latin rooms.

tchrist

Had an interesting case over the summer where it was a chat between two users who were flagging the crud out of each other. The room got turned into a private one and the previous two warring denizens had their access revoked. But there were still flags pending there. As soon as it went private, only site mods could even get into the room to clear them, not network mods. And when we did, we could see whose they were.

Criggie

@Cerberus Of course not - it would be a "flagitium" no ?

Or a Flagitis ?

Cerberus

3:23 AM

@Criggie A flagitium indeed!

Unheard of!

Criggie

I used to work in a high school, and had a good working relationship with the lady who taught latin.

Can't remember how it came up, but somethign about "greetings" So I said "Ave Ngaire!"

as in ahhh vey

(her name was Ngaire)

and she looks at me weird (not uncommon) and says "where did you learn that??"

"Asterix comics" says I

Cerberus

Haha good.

What did you do in the school?

Criggie

3:41 AM

I was computer wonk - "network administrator" for ~8 years. Best job ever.

Minimal budgets, but I had so much freedom to do stuff I wanted to.

Cerberus

Makes sense.

Schools can be very nice environments.

Robusto

@Cerberus Don't worry. Those angles don't look as scary as they actually are.

Cerberus

Generally smaller organisations are better employers.

@Robusto I don't' know about that!

Robusto

One of the very last places I want to find myself is on the front face of El Capitan. Even with ropes and such!

Interesting note: There is a feature on the face of El Capitan called the "Texas Flake." Which when it inevitably falls will kill every thing within a certain distance just based on the force of wind generated when it lands.

Cerberus

Fun.

How large is it?

Robusto

3:49 AM

Well, it's called the "Texas" flake, so ...

Cerberus

And are there normally people where it shall fall?

Robusto

Not necessarily underneath it, but that wouldn't matter.

Still, its inevitable demise is calculated in geologic time, so don't expect anytime soon. But don't be surprised if it falls tomorrow.

Cerberus

Oh, it could happen any moment?

Robusto

Less than 1% of Texas Flake's surface is actually attached to the cliff. So definitely don't be surprised if it falls tomorrow.

Cerberus

I won't be, then.

Will it be on the telly?

Robusto

3:53 AM

Peering Beneath a Source of El Capitan’s Deadly Rockfalls

@Cerberus Probably not.

Cerberus

Lucky for the telly.

@Robusto I can only see the topmost picture.

Robusto

> Boot Flake and Texas Flake are among El Capitan’s largest flakes: Boot Flake is about a third the size of a tennis court, and Texas Flake is about two times larger. They’re both located roughly halfway up a popular climbing route called The Nose.

The Boot flake is a bit above the exact center of the photo and the Texas Flake is a bit below that.

Cerberus

Ahh thanks.

It is hard to tell which spots on the cliff might be things that will fall off.

Robusto

@Cerberus Would you mind correcting M.A.R.'s spelling of "18-karat" horseshit? Because "carat" is not used with gold, only precious stones.

@Cerberus Yes. The spots most likely are probably human.

Cerberus

These bits?

@Robusto So change the c into k?

Robusto

4:03 AM

@Cerberus Yes, please.

Cerberus

@Robusto What?

Robusto

@Cerberus Just a joke.

@Cerberus Yes, those bits.

@Cerberus Thanks.

Cerberus

@CowperKettle Doesn't "quantum model" simply mean "on a quantum scale", i.e. extremely small?

Robusto

Now I must to bed. Had a hard ride today and can barely keep my eyes open. Night all.

Cerberus

@Robusto And all the other things that look like they could be bits?

Sleep a wholesome sleep.

Robusto

4:06 AM

@Cerberus Possibly. Those are the big ones.

Cerberus

I see many other...features that are also big.

Robusto

@Cerberus That is my intention.

@Cerberus Not all are flakes.

Cerberus

Go and do it.

@Robusto It is hard to see which are.

Robusto

bows and withdraws

Cerberus

@Robusto At least he is secured!

Then again, the other man was, too, I think?

@CowperKettle Yes, I see a line going down.

Criggie

4:16 AM

@Cerberus I work for a company that was a Fortune 15, and now they don't talk about that any more.

Cerberus

What doesn't the company talk about any more?

Having been in that list?

Criggie

"how we were a fortune-15 company" for a while

But we're not any more

Cerberus

OK so...

Criggie

Fortune 15 is the top 15 companies in the Fortune 500. It was a big deal.

Operative word being "was"

I really do hate working here

so much corporate bullshit and money being wasted

At least at a small company you could see how your efforts were useful

Here I could piss away $10k a month on Amazon resources and noone would notice.

Cerberus

Right, I think larger organisations are always very inefficient.

Especially commercial ones.

CowperKettle

6:19 AM

@Cerberus Yes, thankfully

M.A.R.

7:19 AM

@Vikas well you did mention that chemistry was abysmally taught so I assumed you would discarded all knowledge of stoichiometry by now

CowperKettle

7:42 AM

Witionary says:

> A 24-point scale used to measure the purity of gold.
"18-carat gold is 75% gold by mass. 24-carat gold is pure."

Vikas

9:03 AM

@M.A.R. I remember my friend asked the Chemistry teacher something about POP. He said something like "if I take half H2O..."

jlliagre

9:15 AM

@CowperKettle Right, and gold weight is measured in Trojan ounces ;-)

Vikas

Did you know? Pure gold can make you rich within 24 hours.

CowperKettle

11:37 AM

Ngaire

Ngaire (pronounced ny-ree), sometimes spelt Nyree, is a feminine given name, most often found in New Zealand. Its specific origins and meaning are unclear, except that it probably has Polynesian origins. In the Māori language it is spelt Ngaere, like the town, and means "swamp" or "wetlands", or possibly "rolling sea", or "necklace shell", or "flax flower". It may refer to: == People == === Ngaire === Ngaiire (born 1984), Papua New Guinean singer, also known as Ngaire Joseph Ngaire Blankenberg (born 1971/72), South African-Canadian museum director Ngaire Drake (born 1949), New Zealand ...

Never heard of this name before

Robusto

1:41 PM

@CowperKettle All the gold jewelry I've ever seen has been marked with a k: 18k, 24k, etc.

carat (Collins) 1. (Units) a measure of the weight of precious stones, esp diamonds. It was formerly defined as 3.17 grains, but the international carat is now standardized as 0.20 grams
2. (Units) Usual US spelling: karat a measure of the proportion of gold in an alloy, expressed as the number of parts of gold in 24 parts of the alloy

It's a useful distinction between gems and gold.

tchrist

2:16 PM

@Robusto And not to be confused with a caret, which is a sort of punctuation or diacritic, depending on use.

Robusto

@tchrist Of course.

tchrist

That gives us four homophonic heterographs all pronounced identically as /ˈkeʁət/ by my count. Isn't English wonderful?

Plus kerat- is a variant of kerato- as a combining form. keratin, keratitis, keratolysis, keratophyre, keratose, etc.

ˌkeratoconjunctiˈvitis

Fortunate there's no quaerit spelling outside the obsolete verb ˈquaeritate.

How naughty was the rabbit, he the carrot ate.

Of course, ˈquaeritate is just a longwinded form of modern query.

Seen once in 1657 but seldom since.

Robusto

#WhenTaken #195 (09.09.2024)

I scored 970/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 763.0 metres - 🗓️ 4 yrs - ⚡ 196 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 363 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 185 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 11 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 199 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 315 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 190 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 6 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200

https://whentaken.com

@tchrist I think there was a sight gag in one of the Bugs Bunny cartoons involving "24-carrot" something.

tchrist

oh yes

there was indeed

Robusto

2:32 PM

Wordle 1,178 3/6

⬛⬛⬛🟨🟩
⬛⬛⬛🟩🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

tchrist

Interestingly for homophones, all four words said /ˈkeʁət/ are in the very same word class: they're all countable nouns. That is why they're especially confusable or confusible. :)

‭ ‸  2038        CARET
        x (up arrowhead - 2303)
        x (modifier letter low circumflex accent - A788)
‭ ⁁  2041        CARET INSERTION POINT
        * proofreader's mark: insert here
        x (right semidirect product - 22CC)
‭ ^  005E        CIRCUMFLEX ACCENT
        * this is a spacing character
        x (modifier letter up arrowhead - 02C4)
        x (modifier letter circumflex accent - 02C6)
        x (combining circumflex accent - 0302)
        x (caret - 2038)
        x (up arrowhead - 2303)

More carets.

From the official Unicode names list, of course.

FMH

‭ ㌌ 330C        SQUARE KARATTO
        * carat
        # <square> 30AB 30E9 30C3 30C8

@Robusto That one is Katakana.

Robusto

@tchrist You mean the pattern there?

Oh, I see what you mean. Stupid indicators default to one's last entry.

tchrist

I mean by its Unicode character properties, specifically.

% uniprops -ga 330c
U+330C ‹㌌› \N{SQUARE KARATTO}
    \pS \p{So}
    All Any Assigned Katakana Is_Katakana Changes_When_NFKC_Casefolded CWKCF CJK_Compat
       CJK_Compatibility InCJK_Compat So S Gr_Base Grapheme_Base Graph X_POSIX_Graph GrBase Kana
       Other_Symbol Print X_POSIX_Print Symbol Unicode
    Age=1.1 Age=V1_1 Bidi_Class=L Bidi_Class=Left_To_Right BC=L Bidi_Paired_Bracket_Type=None
       Block=CJK_Compat Block=CJK_Compatibility BLK=CJK_Compat Canonical_Combining_Class=0
       Canonical_Combining_Class=Not_Reordered CCC=NR Canonical_Combining_Class=NR

Robusto

Print out the character here and I'll tell you what it is.

tchrist

Probably the most important of those are: General_Category=Other_Symbol, East_Asian_Width=Wide, Script=Katakana, Script_Extensions=Kana. I have no idea why it Changes_When_NFKC_Casefolded.

oh it's one of those square jobbies.

mac(tchrist)% echo ㌌ | nfkd | uniquote -v
\N{KATAKANA LETTER KA}\N{KATAKANA LETTER RA}\N{KATAKANA LETTER SMALL TU}\N{KATAKANA LETTER TO}

It has a weird-ass decomposition: Decomposition_Type=Square, which is also Decomposition_Type=Non_Canonical.

Robusto

2:50 PM

カ

That's your ka in katakana.

tchrist

There are like 280 of those.

Robusto

か And in hiragana

tchrist

U+03250 ‭ ㉐ PARTNERSHIP SIGN
U+032CC ‭ ㋌ SQUARE HG
U+032CD ‭ ㋍ SQUARE ERG
U+032CE ‭ ㋎ SQUARE EV
U+032CF ‭ ㋏ LIMITED LIABILITY SIGN
U+03300 ‭ ㌀ SQUARE APAATO
U+03301 ‭ ㌁ SQUARE ARUHUA
U+03302 ‭ ㌂ SQUARE ANPEA
U+03303 ‭ ㌃ SQUARE AARU
U+03304 ‭ ㌄ SQUARE ININGU
U+03305 ‭ ㌅ SQUARE INTI
U+03306 ‭ ㌆ SQUARE UON
U+03307 ‭ ㌇ SQUARE ESUKUUDO
U+03308 ‭ ㌈ SQUARE EEKAA
U+03309 ‭ ㌉ SQUARE ONSU
U+0330A ‭ ㌊ SQUARE OOMU
U+0330B ‭ ㌋ SQUARE KAIRI
U+0330C ‭ ㌌ SQUARE KARATTO
U+0330D ‭ ㌍ SQUARE KARORII
U+0330E ‭ ㌎ SQUARE GARON

mac(tchrist)% unichars -a '\p{Decomposition_Type=Square}' | uniwc
   Paras    Lines    Words   Graphs    Chars    Bytes File
       0      280     1610     8419     8419     9619 standard input
mac(tchrist)% unichars -a '\p{Decomposition_Type=Square}' | nfkd | uniwc
   Paras    Lines    Words   Graphs    Chars    Bytes File
       0      280     1610     8803     8850    10230 standard input

The Chars column counts codepoints.

So under canonical decomposition, you wind up with more of them.

Graphs are graphemes, aka extended graphemic clusters.

This public service message brought to you by uniCodes-R-Us.

MetaEd

now there's somebody with some karate chops

tchrist

This is the only one I get a dumb "missing glyph" box for:

U+1F23B ‭ 🈻 SQUARED CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-914D

@MetaEd Echops are virtual chops.

Eric is a virtual Ric.

Or maybe electrified.

MetaEd

3:01 PM

@tchrist there's a pun here somewhere about Cheops but I can't find it

I mastaba absent from class that day

Robusto

Daily Octordle #959
4️⃣5️⃣
6️⃣9️⃣
🔟🕚
7️⃣8️⃣
Score: 60

jlliagre

#WhenTaken #195 (09.09.2024)

I scored 971/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 396.7 metres - 🗓️ 7 yrs - ⚡ 191 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 16 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 196 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 398 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 185 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 14 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 199 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 104.8 metres - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200

https://whentaken.com

Robusto

@jlliagre Brat.

tchrist

Arat would be possible if only he worked a little harder. Crat if he worked a little less.

jlliagre

@Robusto I'm sure I'm closer than 104 m on #5. They aren't underwater :-)

Robusto

3:12 PM

@jlliagre A lot of them were on the day.

@tchrist And, as usual, (oh drat!) the frat flunked.

tchrist

stupid prat

CowperKettle

3:49 PM

- Did you watch "The Titanic"?
- Yes, but not the ending

"Not up to the end"

jlliagre

@Robusto C'est ben vrai ça ! (probably unguessable joke)

Robusto

Daily Sequence Octordle #959
4️⃣5️⃣
9️⃣🔟
🕚🕛
🕐⓮
Score: 78

@jlliagre "A lot of the troops were underwater on that particular day. 6/6/1944"

jlliagre

@Robusto Yes. There is no doubt about it. The joke was my sentence. It needs to be said with a Norman accent.

Reading page 35 of the April 23, 1973 NYT will give you a hint.

Robusto

Sep. 9, 2024

T I G H T R O P E
✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ 🎉

My Score: 2250

@jlliagre Yes, but we don't hear accents in print!

jlliagre

Ben instead of bien suggests an accent.

Robusto

4:02 PM

I wondered about that.

jlliagre

nytimes.com/1973/04/23/archives/…

Robusto

But I'm not sufficiently versed in French to realize that there wasn't a word ben that means bien in some grammatical contexts.

@jlliagre I don't see anything in there that discusses Norman French ...

jlliagre

@Robusto The mère Denis was from Normandy and her catch phrase was c'est ben vrai ça, pronounced with a Norman accent. Along ben instead of bien, she was pronouncing her R's as [r].

Robusto

@jlliagre Well ... 1. You're right, that is unguessable (by me), and 2. This would involve me having read that particular story, understood the context, and remembered it after 51 years!

jlliagre

4:19 PM

@Robusto Yes, as unguessable as some of Tightrope questions are to me.

Sep. 9, 2024

T I G H T R O P E
✅ 💔 ✅ 💔 ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ 💔 🤕

My Score: 1280

Robusto

@jlliagre Still, you do pretty well for a non-native.

jlliagre

I failed both of the previous ones.

Robusto

I would egregiously fail if those were in French about France.

CowperKettle

Mère Denis

Jeanne Marie Le Calvé, dite La Mère Denis, née le 9 novembre 1893 à Neulliac (Morbihan) et morte le 17 janvier 1989 à Pont-l'Évêque (Calvados), est une lavandière et figurante française célèbre pour avoir été la figure emblématique de publicités pour la marque de machines à laver Vedette durant les années 1970 et 1980. == Biographie == === Jeunesse === Née le 9 novembre 1893 à Neulliac, Jeanne Marie Le Calvé est la sixième des sept enfants de Denis Mathurin Le Calvé et de Marie Mathurine Rioux, paysan journalier et ménagère dans le Morbihan. Connaissant une enfance rude marquée par la peur de la...

Vikas

@CowperKettle How many times you've seen The Titanic?

CowperKettle

4:21 PM

@Vikas Once, maybe twice

Vikas

@CowperKettle Oh. I understood it in only one watch.

CowperKettle

"enfance rude" = hard childhood

jlliagre

@CowperKettle While I'm explaining my jokes, did you get the trojan ounce one?

@CowperKettle Yes, rude and rude meanings diverged.

Mitch

4:42 PM

@jlliagre how rude!

jlliagre

@Mitch Grossier even.

Mitch

@jlliagre how about 'beh' or 'ben' at the beginning of a sentence?

Eg "Ben, oui!"

(or is it nonnasalized?)

jlliagre

@Mitch That's common in oral French, not regional.

Not nasal: /bɛ/

Mitch

@jlliagre ok so only les normandiens disent "c'est ben fait"?

@jlliagre oh

Like Italians?

@jlliagre now that's gross

A gross transgression, if I may.

A gross of transgressions would be gross.

jlliagre

@Mitch Well, both /bɛ̃/ and /bɛ/ might be heard, and /be/ in the South too. Italians say /ˈbɛ.ne/.

Mitch

4:51 PM

And also out of rages.

jlliagre

@Mitch By the way, we just say Normands, not -diens.

Mitch

@jlliagre Sure that's what -you- say.

Aren't Normands a kind of pastry?

Only if you cook them right!

@jlliagre That sounds like you come from Canade.

Vikas

New silliness yet?

Mitch

@Vikas There's never no new silliness.

Vikas

@Mitch I thought it's generated brand new everyday.

jlliagre

5:03 PM

@Mitch Tarte normande?

Norman tart

Normandy tart is a shortcrust pastry-based (pâte brisée) variant of the apple tart made in Normandy filled with apples, sliced almonds and sugar, topped with creamy egg custard and baked until the topping is slightly caramelised. It is also known in French as la Tarte Normande. This is a dish made in one of two sizes, one of which is just under one third of a metre (approximately one foot) in diameter, and a smaller variety, between a half and one third the diameter of the larger type. The key difference from other similar tarts is that other egg custard tarts (a dish common in the United Kingdom...

Vikas

> The 3:2 ratio This is by far the most common aspect ratio used in photography

> 4:3 is by far the most common aspect ratio in digital photography

Which one should I trust?

jlliagre

@Mitch I've never been to Canadie (Canady?)

Acadie -> Acadiens

M.A.R.

> . . . means "swamp" or "wetlands", or possibly "rolling sea", or "necklace shell", or "flax flower".

Maybe we should work on what it can't mean, that's faster

Robusto

@Vikas Why would you have to choose between them?

Vikas

@Robusto Just want to export something in most common ratio used in photography.

My phone shoots in 4:3

Robusto

5:07 PM

List of common display resolutions

This article lists computer monitor, television, digital film, and other graphics display resolutions that are in common use. Most of them use certain preferred numbers. == Computer graphics == Pixel aspect ratio (PAR) The horizontal to vertical ratio of each pixel. Storage aspect ratio (SAR) The horizontal to vertical ratio of solely the number of pixels in each direction. Display aspect ratio (DAR) The combination (which occurs by multiplication) of both the pixel aspect ratio and storage aspect ratio giving the aspect ratio as experienced by the viewer. == Television and media == Fo...

Vikas

@Robusto I saw them, there are too many

Robusto

@Vikas I'd go with 4:3.

Vikas

Asking for 0.25 USD

:D

@Robusto 👍🏾

Mitch

@Vikas all the electricity needed to manage all the server processes for the transfer of 25 cents will cost more.

Vikas

I wonder if Wikipedia knows how much to ask for each user.

jlliagre

5:10 PM

@Vikas I'm sure they ask for more in Switzerland.

Vikas

It would probably ask 2500 USD from Bill Gates.

@jlliagre Sure.

Mitch

Nov 29, 2023 at 22:08, by Mitch

Jul 24 at 16:54, by Robusto

I was going to say ~~There is nothing new under the sun~~ but that would have precipitated @Mitch to pull up his endlessly repetitive post from years ago.

jlliagre

Vikas

@Mitch LOL

Mitch

@Vikas In years past I always saw $3. But recently (last week) I saw requests for $1 (but I'm a little hazy on that...I mainly remember it was much less than $3, so it could have been less than $1.

So basically I'm saying "I don't know" but with more words.

Vikas

5:18 PM

@Mitch I think they ask more in developed countries.

Mitch

@jlliagre Whenever 'Canadians' come up in conversation, I always want to ask about the country Canadia.

@Vikas There probably should be a 'developed country' tax.

Vikas

@Mitch Yes.

Fully support it :D

Mitch

@jlliagre Attends ta tarte tatin tentant tends ton temps tant t'en a autant de taon dans la tente de ta tante.

@Robusto No preference for sqrt(2):1 vs phi:1 (silver vs golden ratio or 1.414:1 vs 1.618:1)

Robusto

5:37 PM

@Mitch Don't you dare sqrt at me!

I prefer φ, but ymmv.

Not everyone has a "24K golden ratio" monitor.

Conrado

6:07 PM

24 karrot?

Mitch

6:51 PM

@Robusto Quelles rudités!

jlliagre

Les carottes sont cuites.

Les carottes sont cuites (expression)

Les carottes sont cuites est une expression courante employée dans la langue française. Cet idiotisme de nature gastronomique évoque une situation désespérée et à l'issue fatale. Cette expression a été utilisée deux fois à l'occasion de deux événements historiques s'étant déroulés sur le territoire français et concernant le général de Gaulle. == Origine == Basée sur un préjugé datant du XVIIe siècle, période durant laquelle son association avec la misère est connue, la carotte, légume bon marché, est souvent présentée comme un aliment du pauvre. Ce n'est qu'au XIXe siècle que les « carottes cuites...

Similar to C'est la fin des haricots.

Jul 20 at 23:58, by jlliagre

French idiom of the day: C'est la fin des haricots ! - There's nothing left/to hope. It's the end of the world, game over, etc. Lit. "It's the end of the beans".

Conrado

7:17 PM

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Q: Is there an English equivalent for "Les carottes sont cuites", while keeping the vegetable reference?

In French, we have this saying "Les carottes sont cuites", meaning "It's too late we can't do anything anymore" or "It's over for him" (He's dead) depending on the context. The literal translation would be "The carrots are cooked", but I don't think it has a specific meaning in English. I'm act...

tchrist

someone's goose is cooked

== English == === Etymology === Unclear. Unconvincing claims have been made of the term's origin in Aesop's Fables (The Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs) and in Swedish history. Attested as cook someone's goose from 1845. === Pronunciation === === Phrase === someone's goose is cooked (idiomatic) All hope is gone; there is no possibility of success; the period of good fortune is over. ==== Translations ==== === References ===

somebody gave that on ELU already ok

tchrist

7:42 PM

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jlliagre

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tchrist

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Q: What is the difference between "to oblige" and "to obligate"?

What's the difference between oblige and obligate? Speculating, is the latter an Americanism of the British former? Or is there any distinction about what/who has caused someone to be oblig(at)ed to do something?

american-english british-english differences

Why is it that every time a native anglophone encounters something different to their own habit that they jump to attributing this distinction to some ultramarine provenance?

I don't say it that way so it must be British.
I don't say it that way so it must be American.
I don't say it that way so it must be Australian.
I don't say it that way so it must be Scottish.

I don't say it that way so it can't be British.
I don't say it that way so it can't be American.
I don't say it that way so it can't be Australian.
I don't say it that way so it can't be Scottish.

And for British, read "Standard Southern British English", and not the Cornish sort of southern, either.

Notice that nobody ever blames Canada.

Nor Kenyans, South Africans, or Nigerians.

Sometimes they blame the French, though.

Or the Norwegians.

Now and then the Dutch.

jlliagre

@tchrist When in doubt, blame the French :-)

tchrist

But of course! When has that ever gone wrong!

Thems Cajuns in exilium have a lot to answer for.

M.A.R.

@Vikas FWIW the most common aspect ratios in VLC and similar apps are 4:3 and 16:9.

tchrist

7:56 PM

But not for İstanbul. That's nobody's business but the Turks'.

Should have been Istambul.

I can't say but an M there.

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