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> “People’s endorsement of moral values that promote group cohesion and conformity is stronger in the spring and fall than it is in the summer and winter,” said Ian Hohm, the study’s first author and a doctoral student in UBC’s psychology department. news.ubc.ca/2024/08/moral-values-change-with-seasons
12:36 AM
> The region-beta paradox: a person prefers to walk (at 3 miles per hour) if distances are less than a mile, and to cycle (15 miles per hour) for longer distances. Despite the remoteness of points in region beta, they will be reached faster than most points in the nearby region alpha.
Who would measure in miles?
The people from the Lost City of America
They hardly cycle?
Haha.
People prefer cycling for any distance which takes over a few minutes.
Not miles.
12:39 AM
The simple reason is that it takes time to get your bike ready, and time to lock it and stuff, also depending on the destination.
Yes, people are afraid of their bike being stolen. And it takes some time to get it ready.
There are those reasons too.
12:52 AM
Did you watch the video I posted about irrational numbers @Cerberus?
@user20458579510081670432 What video was that?
I don't usually watch videos btw, prefer text.
Thanks for the link, but I'm not really looking to spend 16 minutes watching a video, sorry.
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@jlliagre The players? Or the racist fans?
12:59 AM
@Lambie The players.
Players and/or coaches may be racists.
1:23 AM
@Cerberus That isn't really the effect that the graph is showing, annoyingly enough; the graph claims that walking 0.1 miles is slower than biking 0.1 miles, which doesn't make much sense.
1:54 AM
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Walking is slower than biking. Sounds correct to me.
2:35 AM
@alphabet I know.
Raccoon Standard Bible, Genesis 3: [7] And Adam dropped the core of the apple, creating the first trash. [8] And the raccoons stole it, and ate it, and became even wiser than the humans. [9] And God commended them and told them to keep up the good work.
@Cerberus Same. .
Less than 10 minutes or I'm out..
Also watch in 1.75 speed.
heh some things I watch at 2.5x because they talk like southern americans. Abom was one who could happily go 3x and still make sense
 
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3:50 AM
Resumptive pronoun of the day, from a podcast: "She looked like one of those people that, once you see them, you just kind of assume that they have had a great body their entire lives."
I think this one is quite all right.
A fine anacoluthon, not a problem except in a formal text.
The pronouns in "once you see them" and "their entire lives" are required to avoid adjunct island issues; the one in "they have had" is, I suspect, a result of a conflict between the "one of X who..." subject-verb agreement rule with the use of the pronoun they.
Without the first adjunct, you'd get "She looked like one of those people that you assume has had a great body their entire life," which is perfectly fine.
But once you add in "once you see them," you get "She looked like one of those people that, once you see them, you assume has..." which seems a bit off--you're committed to using the singular they to refer to the person, so it's a bit odd to switch to 3rd-singular verb agreement with has.
Of course you could fix this by using the plural they all the way through to get "She looked like one of those people that, once you see them, you assume have had great bodies their entire lives"--but it's a bit odd not to follow the one of X who number rule when you'd initially interpret the first "them" as referring to a single person. (Also a bit semantically odd--you're not seeing all of those people, you're seeing a single one of them.)
The text uses people, so they is not wrong in this case.
After assume, you could remove that they to fix it. But it is awkward because the subject is so far from the verb.
@Cerberus To me, "She looked like one of those people that, once you see them, you just kind of assume have had a great body their entire life" sounds ungrammatical. The problem is that it isn't clear what "have" is supposed to agree with: the gap gets treated as 3rd-person singular, but you've just referred to that person with the pronoun they.
4:24 AM
@alphabet Have agrees with that, which refers to people, plural.
But I agree it is ugly.
 
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6:43 AM
Botany of the day: a rootlike structure that grows into or around another structure to absorb water or nutrients.
6:55 AM
Water piping in Borujerd, Iran, dated to about AD 200-500, the Sassanid era.
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12:08 PM
"People with little regex experience have surprising skill at coming up with exponentially complex regular expressions."
 
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VéloSoleX is a moped, or motorised bicycle, usually just referred to as 'Solex', which was originally produced by the French manufacturer Solex, based in Courbevoie near Paris, France. The company manufactured centrifugal radiators, carburetors, and micrometers, before branching into assist motors and bicycles. The moped originally created during World War II and mass-produced between 1946 and 1988 came in various iterations, whilst keeping the same concept of a motor with roller resting on the front wheel of a bicycle. Referred to the company's advertisement as the 'bicycle which drives itself...
3:10 PM
@Mitch Mine is so rare they won't diagnose it. I'm the only one who has mine, but it affects everyone, timewise mostly.
3:31 PM
Bike riding is for just above poverty level kids, before their bikes are stolen.
They ride ~60 miles/week, beginning at age 8; they mostly cry and stop a lot at age 7.
In the summer
But all they're given credit for is for being mess-free latch-key kids and picking up cigarettes for tipsy adults on the weekends. You gotta respect drinkers who don't drive though.
 
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5:05 PM
@Cerberus Not necessarily. "She's one of those people who has a great body" is correct, even though "has" is a singular verb form; this is the special one of X rule for subject-verb agreement. ("...who have great bodies" would also be correct.)
@alphabet I would consider this less correct.
At any rate, the plural is used in the original sentence.
And that is very much correct.
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A: "There is/are more than one". What's the difference?

Cerberus - Reinstate MonicaThis question is more complex than it may appear. There seems to be consensus that a singular verb should be used in formal writing whenever the subject of a sentence is more than one [noun], or at least that this is (much) better than ?there are more than one. I subscribe to this. It does not ma...

One attracts inconsistency, alas.
@Cerberus The original sentence is using a singular they, so it agrees with a plural verb form. It can't be referring to the whole class of people--"once you see them" clearly means "once you see that person," not "once you see all of those people."
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Resumptive pronoun of the day, from a podcast: "She looked like one of those people that, once you see them, you just kind of assume that they have had a great body their entire lives."
@alphabet Not sure I understand this.
So likewise the "they" afterwards must be singular in reference--though the sentence does mix this up by ending with "their entire lives" rather than "their entire life."
They is clearly plural: they have.
It does refer to the class of people.
But it does not refer to the group as a whole semantically, but rather distributively.
I like people who are an only child, like that.
The group is not an only child, but each of the people is (distributive).
5:13 PM
In "If anyone wants a cookie, they have three seconds to get one," they is singular in reference but doesn't use a 3rd-singular verb form in the way that anyone does.
@alphabet Disagree.
@alphabet That is different (and I would never write it).
@Cerberus Really? To me that seems like a perfectly ordinary use of the gender-neutral singular *they."
It is different anyway.
Ordinary indeed.
So why wouldn't you write it?
That is a different topic.
5:19 PM
Decades ago there was some prescriptive condemnation of singular they, despite it already being well-established in the language, but by now it's ubiquitous across registers and most usage guides actively recommend it.
But that rule has long since fallen out of fashion (not that it was ever very strictly observed in the first place).
Again, different topic.
But, yes, I would never write that.
Nor would many others.
Many? It's a vanishingly small number.
At least among native speakers, almost nobody tries to follow that rule.
I think you don't know.
But do you really want to have the same kind of discussion again?
5:37 PM
Oct 10, 2018 at 0:28, by Cerberus
Otherwise, anyone could censor anyone else for whatever subjective reason suited them, and we'd all lose our freedom.
Sorry, is that a "them" anaphoric to an "anyone"?
Haha.
I must wake you from your dream: I am not perfect.
Did you begin searching from 2024?
@Cerberus No! I refuse to believe you aren't perfect!
@alphabet I am flattered but my dates can tell you otherwise.
@user20458579510081670432 Congratulations.
Oldest gold medalist ever.
In wrestling.
At 287 lbs
Or 130 kg
6 ft 5 in
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6:04 PM
How old is he?
6:18 PM
41, he turns 42 soon
#WhenTaken #162 (07.08.2024)

I scored 843/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 12.7 metres - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 955.1 metres - 🗓️ 6 yrs - ⚡ 193 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 13199 km - 🗓️ 2 yrs - ⚡ 98 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 989 km - 🗓️ 7 yrs - ⚡ 161 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 4 km - 🗓️ 7 yrs - ⚡ 191 / 200

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TIL they award two bronze medals in Olympic combat sporting events.
🤔
6:46 PM
Wordle 1,145 5/6

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Daily Octordle #926
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"All things are possible, except skiing thru a revolving door."
Daily Sequence Octordle #926
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Haha, twins!
7:31 PM
@Cerberus I think an interesting way to say this is "I like people who are only children," which muddies the water mightily.
@Robusto Right, I just wanted make it extra clear (by using the slightly off-putting singular).
#WhenTaken #162 (07.08.2024)

I scored 925/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 667 km - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 180 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 10.5 metres - 🗓️ 2 yrs - ⚡ 198 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 374.3 metres - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 961 km - 🗓️ 7 yrs - ⚡ 162 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 427.5 metres - 🗓️ 10 yrs - ⚡ 185 / 200

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Oh, I still need to finish it.
@user20458579510081670432 He's just a kid ;-)
Oscar Gomer Swahn (20 October 1847 – 1 May 1927) was a Swedish shooter who competed at three Olympic games and won six medals, including three gold. Swahn holds records as the oldest Olympian at the time of competition, the oldest person to win gold, and the oldest athlete to win an Olympic medal. == Biography == At the 1908 Summer Olympics, Oscar Swahn won two gold medals in the running deer, single shot events (individual and team), and a bronze medal in the running deer double shot individual event. He was 60 years old, a year younger than Joshua Millner, the oldest gold medalist at that time...
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Wordle 1,145 5/6

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I've never taken so long to complete Wordle.
@jlliagre It was a tough one.
Daily Octordle #926
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Daily Sequence Octordle #926
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@Cerberus Did you finish it?
You're making assumptions - did it even get started ?
@Criggie I do but doesn't I still need to finish it strongly suggest it's already started?

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