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12:27 AM
@Mitch You know full well that McWhorter’s there because the old grey lady wanted yet another Scots byline to strengthen their boney fee daze with the D.A.R.
@tchrist to be fair, he's really into musicals and show tunes.
@tchrist Look again. The bylines are mostly Jewish these days. The DAR, if it exists, must be rattling their teacups and false teeth.
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2:59 AM
What?? Apparently NYT broke this story; I can't find any news outlets that give more details. Just...why?
> It was not clear what could have motivated Dr. Bynon
The National Society Daughters of the American Revolution, DAR or NSDAR, is a lineage-based membership service organization for women who are directly descended from a person involved in supporting the American Revolution. A non-profit group, the organization promotes education and patriotism. Its membership is limited to direct lineal descendants of soldiers or others of the American Revolution era who aided the revolution and its subsequent war. Applicants must be at least 18 years of age and have a birth certificate indicating that their gender is female. DAR has over 190,000 current members...
> have a birth certificate indicating that their gender is female
These people need to read a birth certificate. It specifies only sex, not upholstery.
tsk tsk
3:27 AM
@user85795 I deliberately checked mine before saying that. It says what it says.
3:53 AM
@tchrist Yes, I know that. I was just funnin' ya.
They do seem like the very WASPiest of organizations.
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5:04 AM
@MetaEd in a chlorhexidine solution? Chlorhexidine itself of course.
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10:28 AM
Nothing better than vodka cocktail.
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11:59 AM
@DannyuNDos Russian rooster butts are overrated.
@tchrist sure, but does it match the drapes?
@Mitch Well, plaid.
@tchrist I get emails all the time asking if I want to have larger... what I can assume are gin and tonics.
Man, I need to order more vermouth.
And olives.
12:02 PM
Olives I have and in plenty.
My biggest complaint about living in a small town is that it is hard to find good ingredients for a martini.
Pearl onions
The grocery store seems to have stopped stocking gin (and Mexican cheeses, but that's another issue). And they have never stocked good vermouth.
Things no one ever asks for
12:03 PM
@XanderHenderson You can usually get directions to a suitable provisioning center from your nearest life insurance travelling salesman.
But a good grenadine syrup? Right next to the Tabasco sauce.
@Mitch Those are by the tinned tunafish.
My preferred martini is an ounce of vermouth, and three ounces of gin. Shake with ice. Serve with three olives.
Mad Men, much?
12:07 PM
@Robusto 'Seem'? The 'Karen' of boomer social organizations
@tchrist I suspect that the Mad Men would think that is too much vermouth.
White Anglo-Supremacist Protestant
How often do you replace your gas tank?
@tchrist I don't get the "upholstery" joke
@Mitch Obtuse.
12:09 PM
@tchrist in American grocery stores you have an aisle of cheese. In Spanish grocery stores you have an aisle of sardines.
@tchrist cripes. I'll not let that stand
@Mitch Yeah, but where do you find anchovies?
El entierro de la sardina es una ceremonia con la que se anuncia el fin del Carnaval en diversos puntos de España e Hispanoamérica. Los entierros suelen consistir en un desfile carnavalesco que parodia un cortejo fúnebre y culmina con la quema de alguna figura simbólica, generalmente representando a una sardina. El entierro de la sardina carnavalesco se celebra tradicionalmente el miércoles de Ceniza y en él se entierra simbólicamente al pasado, a lo socialmente establecido, para que puedan renacer con mayor fuerza, para que surja una nueva sociedad transformada.[1]​ Muchas fiestas españolas terminan…
@XanderHenderson the tiny American ones or the sardine sized Spanish ones?
One of the check out ladies at the local grocery store believes that I am the only person who ever buys anchovies. The might keep them in stock just for me.
Word of the day: nitroplast - a new intracellular structure that has just been discovered.
> Researchers have discovered a type of organelle, a fundamental cellular structure, that can turn nitrogen gas into a form that is useful for cell growth.

The discovery of the structure, called a nitroplast, in algae could bolster efforts to genetically engineer plants to convert, or ‘fix’, their own nitrogen, which could boost crop yields and reduce the need for fertilizers.
12:11 PM
@Mitch The little American ones, I think. I don't know that I have ever had the Spanish ones.
@CowperKettle Google xkcd carpet matching the drapes
@CowperKettle It's probably better that way. It refers to one’s sartorial selections.
It refers to hair color in different areas of the body
@XanderHenderson the Spanish ones walk in through the front door.
Or to once-arterial elections, I forget now.
@Mitch Those might be a bit much for me. ;)
12:14 PM
@XanderHenderson they're just keeping track of your usage to find out when you're pregnant
@Mitch Spanish sardines parade through the front door.
@Mitch I'm too old to be pregnant.
Also, that pesky Y chromosome...
Traffic police in Yekaterinburg detained a green man riding a flying saucer on the road, with a banner attached saying "Hi, Earthlings!"
@XanderHenderson Quelle fromage.
Said with head hung low
@XanderHenderson That wasn't included in the model.
@XanderHenderson Even a moderately gifted genetic calligrapher should be able to add another leg to your Y.
12:15 PM
So enjoy your discount coupons for Pampers
@tchrist it sounds like they slept through the wall
Get it?
@Mitch Let’s schlep the sardines of war!
@tchrist Seems like too much work.
Pared? Something something dormit?
@Mitch You've been reading Cerb's childhood Latin primer again, haven chew?
All those romance languages all mix together
12:19 PM
Lingua Franco-American linguine.
What I came here to say was that you know how in high school there's things like glee club and chess club and junior achievers? We had a DAR club.
Or maybe I'm misremembering.
That's the twee club.
We certainly had an award every year to a (female) student who was accepted into the Daughters of the American Revolution club.
Which I think was a front for Future Wife of an Insurrectionist
Doubtless well heeled and upholstered alike.
I'm being cynical. They were all nice girls.
12:23 PM
Where else would she pack her unholstered gun?
@tchrist plaid and tweed
Karen's are not grown up Queen Bees; they're grown up Wannabes
@tchrist whale bone?
I don't remember any glee club.
We didn't have chess or math club
12:25 PM
We had a chess club. We had no math club.
And a gamers club, distinct from the chess club. Chess is not a game.
Wait...we didn't have -any- clubs
There were 160 people in my high school. We didn't have a lot of clubs.
There were, however, three uniformed choral "clubs": one for madrigals, one for pop stuff, and one for barbershop.
We had a golf club.
In fact a whole bag.
That's sexist.
And the jazz band. I forget what they wore.
12:27 PM
Girls had field hockey, so I think it is a fair trade.
WITH PONIES!?!?!!!!!??????
No, that was at another school.
Intramural ponies-and-princesses competitions.
Look man it's not a competition.
But if it were, she would win.
Ok, Heather.
Dizzy Gillespie came and hung out with our jazz band once.
12:32 PM
Ok hear me out, retitle Jane Austen's 'Persuasion' as 'Influence', keep the same text, but now it's a dark analysis of evil.
Oh...sorry...it just turned into Vanity Fair
That's that kitch you put on your dresser.
@tchrist I hope he was paid.
@Mitch Pro bono.
Some youth outreach thing.
I think he was living in Chi-town at the time.
12:35 PM
@tchrist it's what I actually read, sandwiched inside Foreign Affairs, while riding on the morning bus to work to impress the other riders but so I don't fall asleep
@tchrist gotta keep busy. Something to wake up for in the morning
Vanity Flair: How to zhoozh up your dressing table.
Wait wasn't he ancient by then?
@Mitch No, this was in the seventies.
Even so
He was probably younger than I am.
That, or thereabouts.
He certainly wasn't old enough to "legally" retire.
12:38 PM
John Birks "Dizzy" Gillespie ( gil-ESP-ee; October 21, 1917 – January 6, 1993) was an American jazz trumpeter, bandleader, composer, educator and singer. He was a trumpet virtuoso and improviser, building on the virtuosic style of Roy Eldridge but adding layers of harmonic and rhythmic complexity previously unheard in jazz. His combination of musicianship, showmanship, and wit made him a leading popularizer of the new music called bebop. His beret and horn-rimmed spectacles, scat singing, bent horn, pouched cheeks, and light-hearted personality have made him an enduring icon.In the 1940s, Gillespie...
Me and Suno composed a comic opera about the newly-discovered nitroplast suno.com/song/cdc33852-1e24-4737-a570-e60b9a9dc4fa
So, not young but not ancient
77 - 17 = 60
@CowperKettle suno is a good friend
@tchrist when Mozart was that age he had been dead for 25 years.
@Mitch This isn't theoretical mathematics, a young man's sport.
12:41 PM
60 is the new 'I don't feel old' 40s
I keep hearing things about how you have to change your expectations of: diet, workouts, energy, etc for those over ... 30.
I gasp and think wow what's left now?
@Mitch I should imagine that the mordantly obese of that age might chance to disagree with you.
@tchrist oh that old trope. True of Chess and 100 meter sprints, but not fencing or p
I suppose that's your counter example right there
No sexagenarian ever his name in snow with urine writ.
12:45 PM
@tchrist but the 'worried-well' in the over-medicalized Boston professional class would.
Nor crossed the streams.
All these 60 year old brain surgeons running marathons backwards while writing an opera are just trying to optimize.
But urine wit? Yes, that's far too common amongst such.
@tchrist yeah because they're not 18 year old bros
12:47 PM
I struggled between 'idiots' and 'neerdowells'
@Mitch Mais où sont les neiges d'antan?
More upbeat ↑
@tchrist I hear that but can't place it.
@Mitch As 'twere between Scylla and Charybdis, no doubt.
Woe unto the fool who calls Scylla an idiot.
12:52 PM
Crois pas.
1:16 PM
The hardest years of my life were during my Viagra addiction.
> The whole-brain analyses showed that a higher relative slow-wave activity (SWA, an indicator of sleep depth) in a cluster of electrodes over the right temporoparietal junction (TPJ) was associated with increased prosocial preferences. Source localization and current source density analyses further support these findings.
> Recent sleep deprivation studies imply that sleeping enough makes us more prosocial; the present findings suggest that it is not only sleep duration, but particularly sufficient sleep depth in the TPJ that is positively related to prosociality.
yes, sleepy people are grumpy
People seem bad when you are sleepy
Facebook looks ugly when you're alone
@Mitch That's the reason why spelling bees aren't popular in French. On the other hand, dictées are: /tatatatɔ̃tɔ̃tɔ̃tɔ̃/ would be immediatly correctly parsed by native French speakers.
are quiz shows popular in France
like university challenge etc
1:35 PM
@user85795 Quiz shows on TV, yes. Not sure about what university challenges are.
university challenge is a britsh quiz show
No British things in France.
@CowperKettle Streets are uneven after winter when there are lots of potholes to fix.
@jlliagre What are the most popular quiz shows?
1:52 PM
@Mitch Why? I don't think it has conscience yet.
University Challenge is more academic-style trivia, first lines of novels, identify the composer of this classical music, what is the chemical ending for alcohols.
@tchrist I had to look this up. Like with most things I can't remember, it was something I was supposed to read but skimmed the night before class.
@CowperKettle 1) I was making fun. It's just a tool.
2) it is my professional opinion that
a) 'conscience' or 'consciousness' are both underdefined in most uses -and- irrelevant for any of the attempts at definition.
b) assuming those can be rectified. being conscious doesn't make a difference for a machine even if it had it because all the moral quandaries about consciousness don't apply (you can turn on and off easily a macine but not a biological system).
3) I think you could get away with calling it a 'friend' being -very- metaphorical. It may even help you bury a body with no questions.
2:11 PM
@Mitch My vote would go to this one:
Burger Quiz is a French humorous game show created by Alain Chabat and Kader Aoun, first broadcast on Canal + from August 27, 2001, to July 5, 2002, before being replayed on Comédie! Channel from 2006.A new version of the show has started on April 25, 2018, on the French channel TMC.On April 26th, 2018, it has officially become the most watched entertainment show in the history of French digital TV with 2.3 million of viewers.The first version of the show was first produced by Chez Wam, the production company of Alain Chabat, then by R&G productions. Almost always hosted by Alain Chabat the show...
@jlliagre Academically teachers always say French has no stress in words in a sentence (except maybe on the last syllable) and I think I can manage that, but are there 'constituent markers'? like are there subtle breaks between constituents? eg something like /ta-tata--tɔ̃-tɔ̃-tɔ̃tɔ̃/ ?
@jlliagre Oh yeah...I think you mentioned that one in the past. It is very fast and very subtle (ie I can't understand a word).
But has the air of being funny.
Spain has 'Pasapalabra"
Pasapalabra is a Spanish television game show, adapted from the British format The Alphabet Game. The title is a portmanteau of the Spanish verb pasar, "pass", and palabra, literally "word". == Gameplay == In each episode, two contestants team with celebrities (usually, one male and one female celebrity per team) to play various games. A team's correct responses in these games score seconds, extending their contestant's time limit in the final game, known as el rosco final or el rosco. There are four rounds of gameplay prior to the rosco. All of them begin with the female celebrity, who sits to...
which must be pretty easy because I can almost make out 1 or 2 words.
I know, understanding a language and answering a trivia question are two different things.
But I'll let it stand.
But with Pasapalabra, all the celebrities are so dynamic and entertaining, but I feel like I've had a stroke because I don't recognize any of them and don't know why they are acting so confidently (BTW I haven't had a stroke (as far as I know (no one has said anything (or maybe they're being polite?)))).
No break in "Ta tata tond ton tonton" except a short optional one before tond.
2:30 PM
What is a 'tata'?
For an internet rando (eg non-academic) I thought the underlying scholarship must have been pretty good.
This is one -good- thing about 'open' scholarship (wikipedia, informative youtube videos)
People will fill in gaps that academics somehow skip over.
Foreign language teachers and linguists will give only one way to greet someone (or go on at length about the various patronymics/respect markers/time of day, but don't explain the huge variety of 'What's up?" "Howzit goin?" etc etc etc
Or maybe I'm just flooded with "Don't say 'No' in Pirahã: 10 ways to respond negatively" videos.
@jlliagre Tiens.
@CowperKettle They don't give the prompt that you used to create it. Do you remember it?
2:47 PM
@Mitch Ma tata is 'My auntie'.
@jlliagre Oh, /lepuzdetõtõtõ/
3:18 PM
@Mitch I used the prompt "comical musical" and my own lyrics, very quickly kicked together
This is -- "comic musical"
3:44 PM
@M.A.R. in mineral water.
Wordle 1,028 3/6

@CowperKettle you should have had ChatGPT write the lyrics eith the prompt "showtune lyrics about nitroplasts" to make it rally automatic
@CowperKettle 'kicked together' is not an idiomatic phrasal verb, not even in AAE, but I get what you mean.
4:05 PM
@MetaEd I'd assume the trace organic impurities that don't enter most other calculations. You'd probably only be able to detect them if you could run an NMR
They point being that it doesn't remotely have to be sugars or what you would consider to be normal nutrients.
Russian word of the day: юг - south
4:25 PM
@jlliagre that Wikipedia page needs heavy copy editing
@Mitch don't worry, you'll only ever have strokes of genius
@CowperKettle I keep reading that "kor"
@CowperKettle are you gonna zoom in further and turn it into a meme
"535 south will haunt your nightmares"
@Mitch I like visualizing it though
4:58 PM
@M.A.R. Now you say it, even I notice gallicisms and mistakes.
@M.A.R. That sure is a stroke of luck.
@M.A.R. Yes, the imagery is ... appropriate.
> Burger Quiz is a French humorous game show created by Alain Chabat and Kader Aoun, first broadcast on Canal + from August 27, 2001, to July 5, 2002, before being replayed on Comédie! Channel from 2006.
@Robusto Not only has excess exclamation points jumped the shark, it's jumped the Channel!
@jlliagre Wow, I wouldn't have been conscious of it, just the expected multi-editor infelicities, but now that you point it out they just pop out.
5:36 PM
Interestingly, no mistake in Comédie! Channel.
Comédie+ est une chaîne de télévision thématique française consacrée à l'humour, créée en 1997 sur l'initiative de Dominique Farrugia. Chaîne du Groupe Canal+, elle se nomme Comédie ! jusqu'en 2011. Il existe une chaîne similaire en Afrique : Canal+ Comédie == Historique == Comédie ! est créée sur l'initiative de Dominique Farrugia qui transpose en France le concept de la chaîne américaine Comedy Central (qui n'arrivera en France qu'en 2018). Le mot comédie employé dans le nom de la chaîne s'entend dans son emploi américain, visible par exemple dans l'expression The King of Comedy, soit Le roi...
6:31 PM
Wordle 1 028 3/6

@CowperKettle So "Yugoslavia" was "South Slavia"?
6:53 PM
#WhenTaken #45 (12.04.2024)

I scored 867/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 4645 km - 🗓️ 7 yrs - ⚡ 115 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 3 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 197 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 179 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 190 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 242 km - 🗓️ 12 yrs - ⚡ 170 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 133.2 metres - 🗓️ 5 yrs - ⚡ 195 / 200
Apparently there's a new trend called the "Lion Diet" that consists solely of "ruminant meat, salt, and water."
Obviously a terrible choice. Very high in NMFs.
It does make you feel like a real manly man, though, I suppose. Maybe it helps if you eat the meat raw, without silverware, just ripping it to shreds with your teeth like a lion would.
7:10 PM
I've never seen a lion adding salt to its meat.
7:36 PM
Wordle 1,028 4/6

7:53 PM
@Robusto anybody who thinks this is a problem has never heard of hemidemisemiquavers.
@MetaEd Which is the Imperial version of 64th notes. Totally unmanageable.
9:01 PM
@Robusto this is a great video
Yes. Tantacrul is a great presenter.
9:19 PM
@Robusto Misread that as "Czechia".
9:41 PM
@MetaEd only 7, now 8, thumbs up since 'Jul 2, 2009'
@Mitch it's hard to find because it's marked as a derivative work
What if he just played it straight? Would that still be derivative? Would it be less shown or more?
@Robusto That sounds interesting but... that's a whole hour long!
Do you have a pill for it?
@Mitch Yes, but it's a suppository.
@Robusto I suppose it goes in your butt.
What gave it away?
9:55 PM
And a pessary goes...
somewhere else
"This video took around 8 months to produce"
This is why I don't create videos.
Last WhenTaken picture has an air de déjà-vu.
It looks -so- easy... but just like podcasts, there's a lot of invisible pre and post-production. Scripting and editing.
And what does it get you?
A bunch of people you'll never meet watch 5 minutes then go on to puppies swarming over a skittish cat.
10:23 PM
#WhenTaken #45 (12.04.2024)

I scored 878/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 2087 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 146 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 2 km - 🗓️ 1 yrs - ⚡ 199 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 558 km - 🗓️ 12 yrs - ⚡ 162 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 226 km - 🗓️ 12 yrs - ⚡ 171 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 151.8 metres - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200

@jlliagre I am guessing that you and I guessed exactly the same thing for 4. :D
I also dispute that I was off by 150 meters on the last one. I've been there, and the pin that they put on the map is way too far east (and a bit too far south) for the angle of the photo taken.
10:52 PM
@Robusto Jesus F. Christ. His video from a year ago.
11:03 PM
@Robusto Exactly :)
"Natural kind" is an intellectual grouping, or categorizing of things, in a manner that is reflective of the actual world and not just human interests. Some treat it as a classification identifying some structure of truth and reality that exists whether or not humans recognize it. Others treat it as intrinsically useful to the human mind, but not necessarily reflective of something more objective. Candidate examples of natural kinds are found in all the sciences, but the field of chemistry provides the paradigm example of elements.John Dewey held a view that belief in unconditional natural kinds...
> Scientific disciplines frequently divide the particulars they study into kinds and theorize about those kinds. To say that a kind is natural is to say that it corresponds to a grouping that reflects the structure of the natural world rather than the interests and actions of human beings.
I don't understand why she used the phrase "natural kind" at all.
Word of the day: knolling - The term knolling was first used in 1987 by Andrew Kromelow, a janitor at Frank Gehry's furniture fabrication shop.
11:22 PM
@CowperKettle it's a term of art in philosophy
@CowperKettle it's a very good literature review paper

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