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@tchrist Is OK. No offense taken.
@alphabet I feel like indulging my inner conspiracy theorist here. That these rebels have backing from Bibi.
So it's another brilliant chess move by Israel that's had enough of Iran-backed militia buzzing around their head
I don't particularly mind as long as it doesn't end in declaring war on Iran
00:49
@M.A.R. Like declaring would make a difference.
@M.A.R. Isn't it fairly well-known that this is mostly a proxy war between the US et al and Iran/Russia? Presumably Israel is part of the et al; certainly the US and its allies timed this carefully.
I assume at some point the media will find--shockingly--that these rebels are not, in fact, trying to turn Syria into a shining beacon of liberal democracy.
Word of the pre-Reformation: Lollardy By the mid-15th century, "lollard" had come to mean a heretic in general. The alternative, "Wycliffite", is generally accepted to be a more neutral term covering those of similar opinions, but having an academic background.
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Lollardy was a proto-Protestant Christian religious movement that was active in England from the mid-14th century until the 16th-century English Reformation. It was initially led by John Wycliffe, a Catholic theologian who was dismissed from the University of Oxford in 1381 for heresy. The Lollards' demands were primarily for reform of Western Christianity. They formulated their beliefs in the Twelve Conclusions of the Lollards. Early it became associated with uprisings and assassinations of high government officials, and was suppressed. == Etymology == Lollard, Lollardi, or Loller was the popular...
From a book I'm reading about Henry V.
Henry was not kind to Lollards.
The Lollards denied transubstantiation and other tenets of Roman Catholicism, and some were willing to be burned at the stake rather than recant their "heresy".
Cf. John Badby
John Badby (1380–1410), one of the early Lollard martyrs, was a tailor (or perhaps a blacksmith) in the west Midlands, and was condemned by the Worcester diocesan court for his denial of transubstantiation. Badby bluntly maintained that when Christ sat at supper with his disciples he had not his body in his hand to distribute, and that "if every host consecrated at the altar were the Lord's body, then there be 20,000 Gods in England." A further court in St Paul's, London, presided over by Archbishop Thomas Arundel and his brother-in-law William, Baron de Ros, condemned him to be burned at Smithfield...
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire!
01:05
@M.A.R. Or America getting (directly) involved. We are about to have a leader who presumably thinks al-Assad is a brand of hummus.
Wycliffe dropped out from Oxford and went to his garage, but since electronics were not yet invented, he did not start the Apple company and started Lollardy instead
@alphabet This presumes he thinks at all.
01:25
@Robusto Wow, that's what the neighbors are getting
A canister with a bow, there you go
Done-done
I was going to go with lightly salted cashews
cocoa is probably better
IDK
But several people got Mello Mushroom gift cards
So we could eat there for free
IDK when we became reward and bonus shoppers
It just happens sometime after 50
@alphabet Maybe they're made with real moose
I have no idea
But if you use your card to reroof a house, you can get a pair of Frankenstein shoes and great PJs
I got s'mores scrub-type and flannel PJ pants
Christmas is just downhill after those
02:09
@M.A.R. Oh wow. I hadn't checked the news yet when I was talking about Syria earlier.
Noun: lollipop lady (plural lollipop ladies)
  1. (UK, Ireland, Commonwealth) A female school crossing attendant.
 
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03:13
> President-elect Donald J. Trump [...] wrote in a post on his social media platform, Truth Social, “Syria is a mess, but is not our friend, & THE UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS IS NOT OUR FIGHT. LET IT PLAY OUT. DO NOT GET INVOLVED!”
03:24
@alphabet to be honest I don't really check the news either. News about Syria reaches me like, thirdhand
@alphabet the delightful diction of a four-year-old.
I do think five yos form more complex thoughts.
My 2-yo nephew is already scaring me.
@Robusto well, the more scared TPTB here get the more they're gonna find Mossad agents among future protesters, and I prefer my friends remain bruise-free
@alphabet sure but does anyone directly admit to backing Al Qaeda remnants?
@Robusto have there been kind Henrys? I feel like they all have casually executed people they didn't like.
Some were pretty vicious, though not that guy I guess
Which one had six wives and executed three?
@alphabet I liked it more when MSM only sounded like an offshoot of M&M's
03:54
Sep 3, 2023 at 17:43, by M.A.R.
UpToDate writes it as MSM (Men who have Sex with Men)
What is the latest news?
04:32
@M.A.R. Henry VIII.
04:47
@Robusto I looked it up; it was Whittard of Chelsea brand hot chocolate
I know nothing about it really
But my sister hates chocolate so I thought my brother-in-law would like it
Having chocolate in the house at all times
But we will buy the Starbucks kind tomorrow for the neighbors
Great suggestion
easy-peasy
It's somewhere b/t Walmart and Chelsea, I think
I just use Carnation with a recently used Keurig coffee pod, instant mocha cocoa
But I will have to try it from scratch sometime, like tchrist makes it
And you can have a lot of questions
Or you can build a…like a canon…that starts with an L?
Ashworth used the word a lot, in the past
But some ppl are just playing this instead of memory games, you know
Old people…
Or ones without Sunday papers and Brain Age games anyhow
It's a valuable thing
I thank you all
Happy Holidays, wishing you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
05:44
Photos of the day.
05:57
Your dogs?
Very cute.
06:29
@Cerberus No. Stray. Lots of dogs there recently.
Wild dogs are the cutest.
07:17
@GratefulDisciple It throws me off as well, it's just ugly.
@Vikas Great photos!
@M.A.R. Yeah, that is how it happens.
@jlliagre Oops, I forgot to finish the When Taken last night.
I am loathe to do all rounds again.
OK I will just give you a random try for the last one, from memory: Spoiler.
And you can tell me the real answer, if you remember.
OK I have now read your spoiler: was that about round 5, or another round?
I did see the name of the city in two of the other rounds.
@Vikas I looked up the weather, it's mild now. Only +20 C.
I never heard of this "Gwern"
Turns out he has a large website gwern.net/#generative-ai-image
#WhenTaken #284 (07.12.2024)

I scored 949/1000👑

1️⃣📍582 m - 🗓️1 yrs - 🥇199/200
2️⃣📍306 m - 🗓️1 yrs - 🥇199/200
3️⃣📍5.5 km - 🗓️1 yrs - 🥇199/200
4️⃣📍13.0 km - 🗓️6 yrs - 🥇192/200
5️⃣📍1.3K km - 🗓️3 yrs - 🥈160/200

https://whentaken.com
@jlliagre OK I did it again anyway. But I didn't pick the location you showed me for the 5th one but I picked the city I had picked originally.
Somehow I never looked at the thing until you mentioned it!
Oh, I beat you by 1 point anyway!
I was lucky with the year on the last one.
Maybe I didn't 100% pick the same years and places as the first time, so maybe in reality my score would have been a few points lower and you'd have won.
07:38
He thinks that an AGI will be achieved in 2028
08:50
@CowperKettle I feel a little cold indoors. Outside the sun is a bit too strong if you stay long. At noon.
@CowperKettle if we're constantly moving the goalposts might as well do it in larger increments
Overall, outside temperature is much better.
Let's try 2050 to be safe
2050 is too late.
PM Modi: Target is to become developed nation by 2047
 
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10:14
@Cerberus Yes, it was on round 5 but hard to guess. You need to be a skilled mirrored handwritten dim text reader :-)
Wash day in Mosul!
Mosul ( MOH-səl, moh-SOOL; Arabic: الموصل‎, romanized: al-Mawṣil, pronounced [alˈmawsˤil] , locally [ɪlˈmoːsˤɪl]; Kurdish: مووسڵ‎, romanized: Mûsil; Turkish: Musul; Syriac: ܡܘܨܠ, romanized: Māwṣil) is a major city in northern Iraq, serving as the capital of Nineveh Governorate. The city is considered the second-largest city in Iraq in terms of population and area after the capital Baghdad. Mosul is approximately 400 km (250 mi) north of Baghdad on the Tigris river. The Mosul metropolitan area has grown from the old city on the western side to encompass substantial areas on both the "Left Bank"...
The city's name is first mentioned by Xenophon in his expeditionary logs in Achaemenid Assyria of 401 BC, during the reign of the Persian Achaemenid Empire.
@jlliagre Bathing day in Russia:
«Монахи» («Не туда заехали», ошибочно: «Приплыли») — картина Льва Соловьёва. Хранится в Сумском художественном музее, Украина, там она оказалась в 1938 году, до этого момента места её пребывания проследить не удается. Картину часто ошибочно приписывают художнику Илье Репину, так как в 1930-х годах она висела на выставке рядом с полотнами Репина. == Сюжет == В основе сюжета картины Соловьёва — сцена купания. Центральные фигуры картины — оторопевшие от неожиданной встречи монахи, лодку которых принесло к обнажённым купальщицам коварное течение. == Идиома == Выражение «картина Репина „Прип...
10:39
@jlliagre Oh of course I read it as soon as I noticed the text. I had just blocked out any text outside the photo until you told me.
 
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11:48
> -= Rule Number 1: I'm always right ! Rule Number 2: If I'm not right, Rule Number 1 becomes effective automatically ! =-
I don't get it.
12:27
@Vikas It's a common joke usually in the form Rule 1: XXX is always right, Rule 2: If XXX is not right, see Rule 1 with XXX being 'the customer', 'the boss', 'your wife', etc.
@jlliagre Because wife is always right?
@Vikas best I can do is '49, take it or leave it
@Vikas it's boomer humor, don't read too much into it
@CowperKettle yeah that region has probably been inhabited by humans for 7000 years, maybe more.
@Robusto too many Henrys by that point. Have sycophants call someone a great leader their entire youth and they get the idea that they're divine and disagreements are punishable by death
12:48
@Vikas I guess it started with The consumer/customer is King and The customer is always right meaning there is no point arguing with a customer. Without them, no business. The second rule is just a joke enforcing the idea arguing is pointless.
12:59
Hi, guys. Can I check with you these sentences? Do they sound natural enough to say?

1. Finally, when employees leave, remember to take away their VPN access just as you do their accounts on the local system.
2. He looked away in disgust.
3. She wrinkled her nose in disgust.
4. If you were born to lose, then live to win.
5. The door to the house was left unlocked.
“There's no money in poetry, but there's no poetry in money, either.”
@M.A.R. Yes, the most ancient civilized area
@MichaelRybkin I would use "disable" instead of "take away" in position 1.
13:30
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Puzzle #546
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@MichaelRybkin All fine and uncontroversial.
13:47
@MichaelRybkin In computer system administration lingo, "take away" is fine because the opposite is "given". In a corporate environment, each user has to apply for their VPN access, and once the application is reviewed and approved, the access is "given". Other common pairs of verbs: enable/disable, grant/revoke, add/remove.
#travle #725 +1
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https://travle.earth
Tightrope, a daily trivia game | Britannica

Dec. 8, 2024

T I G H T R O P E
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My Score: 2180
Lucky.
14:21
Connections
Puzzle #546
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No way...
@Vikas No, wife is most emphatically NOT always right. Otherwise I would be a hen-pecked husband like Rip van Winkle. But sometimes I do give in because my wife is also a customer that I cannot afford to lose (although she is much more than a "customer"), so I would give in temporarily giving the appearance that she is right, hoping to lose the battle as to win the war later. A savvy business owner would do the same. Keeping a customer for life is a recipe for business success.
14:49
@Cerberus It doesn't bother me as much if the referent is someone representing a group, such as how I use "their" in my recent message above to refer to "each user".
@GratefulDisciple Learn game theory so you can maximize the long-term wins from your marriage.
> Then, gentlemen, from the reign of the Edwards and the Henries, it was a regular progression of tyranny; not of liberty, till the Stuarts stepped a little beyond the line, and that begot a necessity for a reversion.
> With respect to what has been said of the Edwards and Henries, surely my learned friend will not arraign this, because the author is not well enough read to know that Edward III was a great prince and king, and because he names him with the Henries it is a libel; but, says he, he tells you there was no constitution up to the revolution, but that all the constitution was got piece-meal, by the people struggling with those tyrants.
@GratefulDisciple That usage has been around since at least Shakespeare's time; it was for a period fashionable to use "he" instead, but this has become so rare that it now provokes more confusion than it resolves.
@GratefulDisciple “Women are meant to be loved, not to be understood.”
Same for customers.
I'm pretty sure most speakers now, hearing a sentence like "If anyone wants lunch, he can buy some downstairs," would assume "he" was referring to some third person.
15:02
> Oh many a peer of England brews
Livelier liquor than the Muse,
And malt does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to Man.
> Know then thyself, presume not God to scan,
The proper study of mankind is Man.
@Vikas Gods then are they?
Or merely God's?
Goddess.
Sing O Goddess
@Vikas “Men are meant to be understood, not to be loved.”
Feet of clay.
@Robusto Thank you. I got a question regarding sentence #1. "just as you do their accounts on the local system" - that means "the same way you terminate their accounts on the local system"? Am I correct here?
@CowperKettle Thank you very much.
@GratefulDisciple Got your point. Thank you very much.
15:26
Cletus being no Habsburg prince, we daren’t blame his weak jaw on his parents having themselves but a single set of parents between the both of them, for nothing less than an entire lifetime in darkness can forever hide his face from enlightened education and so preserve his birthright.
Pope Anacletus (died c. AD 92), also known as Cletus, was the bishop of Rome, following Peter and Linus. Anacletus served between c. AD 80 and his death, c. AD 92. Cletus was a Roman who, during his tenure as pope, ordained a number of priests and is traditionally credited with setting up about twenty-five parishes in Rome. Although the precise dates of his pontificate are uncertain, he "...died a martyr, perhaps about 91". Cletus is mentioned in the Roman Canon of the mass; his feast day is April 26. == Name and etymology == The name "Cletus" (Ancient Greek: Κλητος, romanized: Klētos) means "one...
Linus!!!
TIL that Cletus’s only grandparents were Peter and Paul. This explains much.
@tchrist XD
 
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19:33
@HippoSawrUs He's great in Die Hard. Surprisingly his previous role as "Machiavellian type" didn't enter my consciousness when he acted as Colonel Brandon in Sense and Sensibility (1995). His costar Emma Thompson noted (cf Wikipedia) that despite his previous role, "Rickman could express the "extraordinary sweetness [of] his nature," and I agree since in that movie he plays an older bachelor who had been severely hurt by love in his younger period, making him more compassionate of others.
@Vikas I think both women and customers desire to be understood and loved. Even more so, to be "known" as well as "loved". For that reason I consider it a moral obligation for me to try to understand my wife as best as I can, which I use as a salve when conceding certain points / decisions, because at least one party is satisfied and happy.
@alphabet I heard much of Game Theory and its many applications, but haven't quite learned it yet, so of course not applying it to marriage. Skimming through, I'm rather hesitant since marriage should not be a zero-sum game, or even constant-sum games, but a voluntary unity (a coming together) of willing and knowing in love.
So when disagreeing whether my wife is right on a long-term prudential decision, the "winning the war" is when in the end I was proven right and my wife conceded that she should have taken my approach. There has been times when my wife was proven right after many years, so I consider this a growing-up and learning-together process where in the end both parties ended up more united and mature, and thus trust each other more to be complementary.
@alphabet Yes, I heard the use of "them" today has been defended along those lines.
20:01
@MichaelRybkin Yes.
@Robusto Thank you.
20:21
#WhenTaken #285 (08.12.2024)

I scored 893/1000🏆

1️⃣📍22.3 km - 🗓️9 yrs - 🥇186/200
2️⃣📍672 m - 🗓️0 yrs - 🥇200/200
3️⃣📍7.4 m - 🗓️1 yrs - 🥇199/200
4️⃣📍564 km - 🗓️12 yrs - 🥈162/200
5️⃣📍1.7K km - 🗓️8 yrs - 🥈146/200

https://whentaken.com
Wordle 1,268 5/6

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21:05
Daily Octordle #1049
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Score: 59
Daily Sequence Octordle #1049
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21:46
22:02
chatGPT pro?
22:23
@GratefulDisciple I was kidding.
Nov 6 at 22:19, by alphabet
Incidentally, "singular you" was widely condemned by grammarians as "illogical" for the exact same reasons when it started displacing thou.
22:45
#WhenTaken #285 (08.12.2024)

I scored 944/1000👑

1️⃣📍407 m - 🗓️3 yrs - 🥇197/200
2️⃣📍12.4 m - 🗓️2 yrs - 🥇198/200
3️⃣📍20.6 m - 🗓️5 yrs - 🥇195/200
4️⃣📍467 m - 🗓️2 yrs - 🥇198/200
5️⃣📍1.7K km - 🗓️1 yrs - 🥈156/200

https://whentaken.com
22:57
Daily Octordle #1049
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23:33
@Cerberus A little biased on that one, Cerberus, aren't you?
23:46
Not at all, I am entirely objective.
Besides, I am a cat man.

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