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Robusto

00:21

@Cerberus Yes. It's very abstruse.

Cerberus

It will be easier once you get to know the game.

I mean, the one containing e.g. primate might be easier if you know they use that kind of conexion in the game.

jlliagre

@Cerberus You are playing "tomorrow's game".

Cerberus

Ohh.

Can I do yesterday's by setting back my clock?

OK yes, I can.

jlliagre

Yes.

Cerberus

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OK I didn't understand the purple one.

But of course it is whatever remains.

Ohh I am reading the descriptions of each quartet now, didn't notice the game gave those once you got it.

The purple one is truly very hard to come up with.

In order to form a quartet, is it always one item from each column?

So it seems to be?

jlliagre

00:38

Not sure, my impression is that the words are randomly placed.

Cerberus

That was not what I saw here.

Robusto

00:59

@Cerberus Easier by just going to the Connection archive. You can also get practice by playing months of games.

Cerberus

@Robusto That is paid, isn't it?

Robusto

@Cerberus Oh, I don't know. I am an NYT subscriber, though.

Cerberus

Right.

jlliagre

Paid.

alphabet

01:31

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Robusto

02:19

@jlliagre Well, worth it, IMO.

Mitch

03:00

@Cerberus it's totally random which means that sometimes patterns do happen but not on purpose. The very first layout does look on purpose with reading the first row it might sound like it says something funny.

Robusto

Here's one I'm currently struggling with.

From Sept. 12 2024

It looks like SAKE and MOCHI on the first row would be related to Japanese cuisine, but not so fast.

CowperKettle

04:06

> Budging the sluggard ripples of the Somme,
A barge round old Cérisy slowly slewed.
Softly her engines down the current screwed,
And chuckled softly with contented hum,
Till fairy tinklings struck their croonings dumb.
The waters rumpling at the stern subdued;
The lock-gate took her bulging amplitude;
Gently from out the gurgling lock she swum.

Owen of the day.

alphabet

@Robusto Note KOBE and CURRY.

alphabet

04:37

Nvm, trying it myself.

Xanne

Also note social media words: like, save, favorite, bookmark

alphabet

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Robusto

04:57

My brain was fried. I have to have morning brain (++coffee) to do these.

alphabet

@Robusto May I suggest Dexedrine and energy drinks? Works for me.

Robusto

@alphabet I used to take Ritalin when I was coding. I got 10 hours of work done in about 6. But after the six I was fried. I could do housekeeping, but I couldn't maintain that wonderful coding focus, the kind where I forgot to eat lunch and even going to the bathroom was a nuisance I would delay as long as possible. Distractions, distractions.

alphabet

@Robusto I tend to get sucked into coding with or without medication. I take it so that I can follow conversations in meetings and prioritize tasks and do household chores that would test my patience otherwise.

Sometimes, with the right medication, when all my chakras are aligned, I can clean up the layer of random junk covering every surface in my apartment.

Robusto

@alphabet I got sucked into coding too, but I was still easily distracted by shit. Working in an office is a huge distraction. Especially in the "fashionable" open-plan offices. With Ritalin I could just tune that shit out.

alphabet

05:13

@Robusto I find working from home much worse as far as distraction goes. I don't go into the office every day but I try.

Robusto

I find it easier to work at home. I get more done.

alphabet

When I'm at home I tend to take "breaks" that consist of lying in bed for an hour watching YouTube videos.

Or shopping for random things on Amazon, while also wondering why my apartment is full of random crap I bought on Amazon.

Robusto

By myself I have a lot of discipline. It's when I'm with other people that I get distracted. That said, this chat has been an "other people" injection into my home.

Vikas

@Robusto I lose my focus or performance terribly when someone is standing near me and watching what I'm doing.

alphabet

Sometimes having other people watching you makes you at least try not to look distracted.

Robusto

05:24

@Vikas That is so true. Pair coding is bullshit.

I've noticed that when I'm working on something with someone else, the person not at the keyboard is the one who notices things and the poor keyboard mutt is reduced to taking dictation.

And I noticed that mutt will be reduced to doing things like using a menu for cut and paste, etc. Even I will do that stuff. It's embarrassing.

It's like your brain has been taken over.

alphabet

IME "pair coding" usually degenerates to "One person codes, the other stands there dicking around."

Robusto

See, it's the reverse in my experience. The one that's watching makes the decisions and spots the problems.

When someone is looking over my shoulder I just wish they could go away, because I can't have a thought process that goes uninterrupted.

Now, that's different from explaining a problem to someone else. Every time I've tried that I see the answer before I get to the point.

Anyway, I am beckoned into the arms of Morpheus. Ta-ta all.

alphabet

Yes, that can be annoying. The advantage of using vim is that nobody can tell you what keys or commands to use unless they're privileged enough to understand them.

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06:09

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Cerberus

09:47

@Robusto OK let me try it.

My first guess would be: sake interest advantage benefit

CowperKettle

10:36

Plenty of pickles and pork

Murmansk has just had it's warmest 10 December ever, with +4.1 C, and that despite there being a Polar Night now.

Cerberus

That is extreme!

I would never have expected Murmansk to be so warm in near-winter.

jlliagre

11:48

Conrado

@CowperKettle Yeah, those mexacanized dishes sure are a slippery slope, aren't they?

Cerberus

Long live the Gulf Stream.

jlliagre

Earth

Cerberus

So northern Greenland, central Canada, and north-western Russia are the coldest places.

jlliagre

-43°C in Northern Greenland.

Cerberus

11:51

Cool.

jlliagre

+42°C in some places in South Africa

and the rest in between...

Cerberus

Only 42, really?

I mean, even in Holland we had temperatures like that, a few years ago.

jlliagre

@Cerberus That's now, not a maximum.

Gulf stream.

Cerberus

Thanks, stream!

I wonder, though, why the eastern Atlantic seems colder than the western.

It seems even Murmansk profits from the Gulf Stream.

jlliagre

Definitely.

Cerberus

12:00

Is the green circle where you are?

jlliagre

More where (I guess) you are :-)

I was looking at the sea temperature.

The ocean looks colder in Baltimore (6°C) than in the Lofoten (8°C) :-)

Cerberus

@jlliagre It looks more like Brugge or Duinkerken!

But thank you for trying.

jlliagre

12:24

@Cerberus It was Cadzand, still closer to you I guess.

Cadzand

Cadzand is a village in the Dutch province of Zeeland. It is located in the municipality of Sluis, about 8 km northwest of Oostburg. The village contains 790 inhabitants (2010). Better known to many visitors is the nearby beach at Cadzand-Bad. Cadzand was the scene of two battles during the Hundred Years' War 1337-Battle of Cadzand 1387-Battle of Margate Under the Secret Treaty of Dover, concluded in 1670 between Charles II of England and Louis XIV of France, England was supposed to get possession of Cadzand as well as Walcheren, as the reward for helping France in the then impending war...

Cerberus

12:35

Ah, yes, close to Belgium.

M.A.R.

@CowperKettle cards can give you a lethal papercut

CowperKettle

it'll be all right on the night

== English == === Etymology === Originally said about the problems encountered during the final dress rehearsal before the premiere (first night) of a performance. === Phrase === it'll be all right on the night (UK, informal) Although it seems problematic now, it will ultimately succeed. === References === “it ll be all right on the night” in Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, Longman. “it'll be all right on the night”, in Lexico, Dictionary.com; Oxford University Press, 2019–2022.

I came across the phrase in Chesterton's book on eugenics

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MetaEd

13:45

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MetaEd

13:58

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Robusto

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Robusto

14:19

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Robusto

14:34

Word of the next four hears: kakistocracy rule by the worst people (from Paul Krugman's final column for The New York Times)

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CowperKettle

@Robusto Nah, it'll be all right on the night

The US has a strong tradition of democracy.

Robusto

@CowperKettle Which night are we talking about? January 20, 2029?

CowperKettle

Yes ))

Robusto

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Mitch

14:53

@Conrado "piecing between meals"? you piece just one time between meals and you're bound to fall into drinking tea with your questionable 'friends' at the local den of iniquity, the cake shop.

Robusto

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Mitch

@Robusto yeah that word has been in my head lately

Robusto

Meh, I wrote "hears" instead of "years" ...

I blame @Mitch.

Mitch

@Robusto if it's any consolation, I didn't notice. I read it as 'years'

Robusto

Heh.

Mitch

14:57

Hmm @CowperKettle's cartoon about the steps to a drunkards grave reminds me that I haven't had second breakfast yet...

Robusto

I just had first breakfast. I won't need a second for another fifteen minutes or so.

> We may never recover the kind of faith in our leaders — belief that people in power generally tell the truth and know what they’re doing — that we used to have. Nor should we. But if we stand up to the kakistocracy — rule by the worst — that’s emerging as we speak, we may eventually find our way back to a better world.

Conrado

@Robusto OK, I read the article now. From my reading of both the officialist and opposition accounts, the man is to be admired. The way I see it, it wasn't as important what his job was, as that he stuck it out even though they killed him. It is clear that he really believed his dogma. Or at least was convinced that he didn't believe the official dogma of the powers that were.

I am a bit dogmatic, so there's that to consider.

Robusto

@Conrado Did your karma run over your dogma? Discuss.

@Conrado Yeah, I have nothing but respect for Badby. And contempt for Henry V for, in his attempt to "save" the half-burned wretch, he prolonged the poor stalwart's suffering.

Conrado

@Robusto I have always thought that the people being killed for their heretical stances were more to be admired than the officials who ordered them to be killed.

Robusto

jinx

Conrado

15:09

@Robusto Ha.

Maybe the dogma bit the karma's tires--let the air out. So the running over was justified.

Mitch

15:27

Mar 3, 2015 at 14:52, by Mitch

Also, I'm sorry but my karma ran over your dogma. — Mitch 26 secs ago

I remember when 2015 was in the future.

It's almost as though when people made up these weird words they were thinking 'hm I'll make it sound a little like this other one so that for years the same awful pun can be made by people over and over and over again'.

What I mean to say is it's uncool to talk about dogs being run over by cars.

My entire childhood was overshadowed by the prospect of someone's pet being run over.

Well, that's in addition to poison ivy and ticks.

overshadowing my childhood that is.

not running over dogs.

that would be ludicrous.

wouldn't it?

Nick Alexeev

When karma was little, a tiny dogma bit little karma.
The dogma had bit her, and quickly forgot about it.
But karma had not forgotten.

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16:22

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Robusto

17:12

JavaScript is 29 years old this month!

jlliagre

@Robusto Not in the 27 club then.

Robusto

@jlliagre Still a spunky little fella, though.

I remember Microsoft came out with their JScript shortly after, following their evil "embrace and extend" mantra.

Although 20 years ago MS's IE was the first browser to make the entire DOM addressable.

Yes, I gave IE a compliment.

It stuck in my throat, but I did it.

That doesn't excuse all the horrible bugs that followed in its wake. I'm looking at you, Guillotine Bug. And your many friends.

CowperKettle

Robusto

Netscape was really good until it wasn't. The whole layers thing was interesting but misguided. Thank heaven Firefox came out after Netscape went completely off the rails.

> I hope the first naturalized immigrant Trump deports is Elon Musk.

@CowperKettle Is that supposed to be Mark Fuckerberg in a freezer?

CowperKettle

Caesar

Robusto

17:26

I know. Just joshin' ya.

CowperKettle

Which, however, was read as German Kaiser

But transformed into Russian Czar

Xanne

Caeser in the freezer?

CowperKettle

Yes

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Robusto

@CowperKettle Yup.

MetaEd

18:35

or Ruler In The Cooler

alphabet

20:02

@Robusto Off topic: You know what irks me? When an article uses a word obscure enough that they define it immediately after using it ("kakistocracy — rule by the worst"). What was the point of using the word then?

Cerberus

Sounding cool.

alphabet

@Cerberus But if you don't use big rare words, how will we know how smart you are?

Farewell to the columns of Paul Krugman, someone so devoted to the preservation of our economic system that he spends his time lecturing the less fortunate about how the economy is actually great and they need to stop whining.

Cerberus

20:41

@alphabet I don't know why you say "but". That is exactly what I meant.

Conrado

20:56

@MetaEd Kaiser in the Icer

Laurel

@alphabet It's not so rare as to not be in NOAD at least

Conrado

Oppressor with an Embraco compressor.

MetaEd

Dude In The Food

Conrado

Subjugator in the Fridgerator

King in the Thing.

Mitch

@Laurel NOAD needs to up their snootiness game.

@alphabet I think you'd be irked more if they left out the fancy word and just said 'rule by the worst' ... all day you'd be racking your brain thinking there's gotta be one of those fancy greek words for it!

That's the fear of fancy words.

Xanne

21:12

NOAD?

Mitch

NOAD.

Rhymes with 'go bad' not 'toad'.

@Conrado Jack in the Box?

Oh.

Sorry.

Conrado

Yeah, they have to rhyme.

I just made that rule up now.

Mitch

I think the examples forced the rule. Also, it's not funny if it doesn't rhyme.

Xanne

They are trying to label the coming administration in a memorable way. Democracy, kleptocracy, kakistocracy. Either that’s misspelled or it’s not in the app’s dictionary.

Mitch

Idiosyncrasy.

Conrado

21:18

Rule by the idiosyns.

Whoever they are.

Are they like public sins?

Mitch

Oh yeah... I get a squiggly line for kakistocracy too.

Conrado

Kakistocracy

A kakistocracy (, ) is a government run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens.: 54 The word was coined as early as the seventeenth century. Australian lexicographer Peter Bowler has noted that there is no word for the opposite, a government run by the best citizens, but that aristarchy may be the correct term for that. Still, it conceivably could be a kakistocracy disguised as an aristocracy. == Etymology == The word is derived from two Greek words, kakistos (κάκιστος; worst) and kratos (κράτος; rule), with a literal meaning of government by the worst people. ==...

Xanne

California now has unidentified drones also. Where is the government when we need it?

Mitch

@Xanne what are these unidentified drones doing?

Xanne

Well flying around Vandenburg where they shouldn’t be.

Mitch

21:22

oh

Xanne

Speculation is Chinese or Iranian, but that’s just the moderate rumor stage.

GratefulDisciple

21:34

@Robusto By accident I found the piano video diary of Ms. Ildikó Rozsonits born 2006 who started the journey when she was 5 with videos back from when she was 6 until last year !

I notice a definite maturing of her interpretation. For example, her Mozart Piano Sonata K330 (age 12) is not that good and her Schubert Impromptu in B-flat (age 13) is OK (I play those as well), but starting age 16 her performance matured a lot (which is quite heartwarming to witness), such as her Mozart Piano concerto K414 2nd movement and her Chopin Ballade No. 3.

Robusto

@alphabet Well, he was writing for a general audience. Might have been stuck in by a copy editor—I believe the NYT, unlike many other news organizations, still uses those.

@GratefulDisciple Nice.

GratefulDisciple

21:51

@Robusto And she has yet room to grow. This is another young pianist Cho Seong Jin playing Ballade No. 3 when he was 22, shortly after winning the XVII Chopin piano competition in 2015.

GratefulDisciple

22:09

One sign of maturity is that no one note is played exactly the same as the other notes in the phrase, and the pianist listens very intently to the decay, such as the long Bb at minute 0:40 of his Ballade No. 1. I like his finger posture very much: very economical and close to the keys (like an organist); something I want to emulate for myself.

Robusto

@GratefulDisciple I just listened to her Haydn Sonata in C, mvmt 1, and it is very polished and articulate. Very fine.

GratefulDisciple

22:28

@Robusto Indeed. Clean playing too and shows she knows what she's doing in terms of bringing out motives, contrasting repeated phrases in the classical style, and inserting small rit and appropriate delays such as before returning to the recapitulation section. But her pedaling needs a lot of work, which is a minor issue. She has a lot of promise; participating in piano master classes will do her good.

The room is rather dead; her playing (and the varying articulations) will sound a lot better in a "wetter" room, which is why I'm looking forward to experimenting with various sound environment in Pianoteq.

@Robusto Her playing of Beethoven Sonata in C major is also quite mature, and here the Semperoper opera house reverberation helps a lot. I'm going to use this piece to experiment with Pianoteq, see whether I can reproduce how the piano sound in a proper acoustic environment.

Robusto

22:47

@GratefulDisciple That's one thing I really like about my Roland. I can give the ambience any degree of reverb, plus there are preset "rooms" to select, everything from a practice room to a cathedral.

Stone walls? Wooden walls? Whatever you desire.

GratefulDisciple

@Robusto That's nice to have everything in one package. Roland has a well-rounded expertise in many areas; I trust them more than Yamaha when it comes to sound processing. Their products being integrated into a larger whole helps too.

CowperKettle

23:40

a Roland for an Oliver

Noun: a Roland for an Oliver (plural Rolands for Olivers)

(idiomatic) Equal measure; measure for measure; adequate response.

Adverb: a Roland for an Oliver (not comparable)

(idiomatic, not comparable) Used to indicate that something is done in a manner that responds to an action with an equivalent action; tit for tat.
He responded to the insult a Roland for an Oliver, striking back just as hard.

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