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12:41 AM
25% off the ticketed price - what exactly does that mean?
 
@MichaelRybkin It means whatever the nominal price of the ticket is, you only pay 75% of that.
 
I suggests that there is a ticket on which a price is written, but you will now in fact pay 25% less.
 
Yes, "off" means "less". Or "The new price is 25% less than the ticketed price"
 
*less than
 
> Orc (Cyrillic: орк, romanised: ork), plural orcs (Russian and Ukrainian: орки, Russian romanisation: orki, Ukrainian: orky), is a pejorative used by Ukrainians[434] to refer to an invading Russian soldier[435][436] during the Russo-Ukrainian War. It comes from the name of the fictional humanoid monsters of the same name from J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy novel The Lord of the Rings.
 
12:53 AM
Thank you!
 
Because less x amount means "minus x amount".
It's probably considered informal.
 
> Or like a juicy and jostling shock
Of bluebells sheaved in May
Or wind-long fleeces on the flock
A day _off_ shearing day.
 
@tchrist I have heard this!
Tolkien is always useful, always current.
 
For the yrch shall be with us always.
 
People will always find some invectives for each other, Tolkien or not Tolkien
 
12:55 AM
Perhaps one day no more.
 
Pronounced [yʀχ], if you can manage it.
He tried to use phonetic spelling. :)
 
> "You're gonna make me give myself a good Tolkien-to" (Bob Dylan)
Tolkien is everywhere.
 
@CowperKettle Indeed; I found that listed here:
The following is a list of ethnic slurs or ethnophaulisms or ethnic epithets that are, or have been, used as insinuations or allegations about members of a given ethnicity or racial group or to refer to them in a derogatory, pejorative, or otherwise insulting manner. Some of the terms listed below (such as "gringo", "yank", etc.) can be used in casual speech without any intention of causing offense. The connotation of a term and prevalence of its use as a pejorative or neutral descriptor varies over time and by geography. For the purposes of this list, an ethnic slur is a term designed to insult...
 
@tchrist Easy enough, except that I can never remember which R is which.
 
@Cerberus Me neither. I had to look it up to be sure. Parisian French more often uses [ʁ].
As do many Brazilian dialects.
 
12:59 AM
Hmm.
I'm not equally familiar with the dialects of all the favelas of the Cariocas.
 
[y] should be easy enough for you, plus it's in both French and German. I remember John Rhys Davies, the Manx actor who played Gimli in the movies, doing a fine job with that /y/ sound in Emyn Muil. I was less convinced by the English actor who played Théoden's attempt at a /y/ in Simbelmynë.
But Dutch vowels defeat me. I swear that you and the Danes must have a secret pact to create vowels unhearable by other Germanic speakers, the way the Portuguese do to other Romance speakers.
@Cerberus Some of them say /hiu/ for Rio.
 
What I didn't understand was "ticketed price". I am not sure as to what exactly it means.
 
The price that was initially specified for the ticket. :)
 
@MichaelRybkin The ticketed price of something is the price that the ticket attached to that thing says it costs.
 
@tchrist Oh, funny.
 
1:11 AM
Okay, thank you all
 
Word of the morning: caulkin (a stud on a horse's hoof, for better traction on icy roads)
 
Usually this means a little tag or label attached to an item, but it can also mean a literal entrance ticket.
 
Danish and Dutch phonemic monophthongs, respectively.
@Cerberus You guys actually attempt non-native vowels? I'm impressed.
 
Relatable; because I'm one of those few Koreans who conserves [ø] and [y].
 
1:21 AM
> Diphthongs of Northern Standard Dutch, from Gussenhoven (1999:76)
The Wikipedia section on the Dutch diphthongs makes my head hurt, or at least my nose.
> The rounding of the starting point of the Northern Standard Dutch realization of /œy/ has been variously described as slight [œ̜ʏ][83] and non-existent [ɐ̜ʏ].[55]
@DannyuNDos I did not know that you had a rounded front vowel [y], only back ones.
> Korean used to have two additional phonemes, [ø] ㅚ and [y] ㅟ, but they are replaced by the diphthongs [we] and [ɥi] by the majority of speakers.
 
Yeah, that.
 
I work with a young fellow who was born in California but his family comes from the Seoul area, where he has also spent time living. But that's because they're Chinese who emigrated from China to Korea in the previous generation, and his grandparents only speak Mandarin.
So he's Chinese but visiting his cousins means going to Korea. It's strange.
And speaks English like he's native to Hollywood.
 
Though, ㅐ ㅔ ㅚ ㅟ were falling diphthongs in 15c; [aj] [əj] [oj] [uj]. I wish they still were.
 
@CowperKettle For better recalcitrance?
 
@DannyuNDos At least Hangul still recognizes both rising and falling diphthongs. The Germanic languages often do not, although some Romance languages do so.
 
1:32 AM
@tchrist What non-native vowels?
 
The ones in the right-hand chart of your vowels.
Looks like it adds nasals and some that are longer than your "native" ones.
 
Perhaps just some French and German vowels?
 
> The non-native /iː, yː, uː, ɛː, œː, ɔː/ occur only in stressed syllables. In unstressed syllables, they are replaced by the closest native vowel.
@Cerberus Yes: "The non-native nasal vowels /ɛ̃ː, œ̃ː, ɔ̃ː, ɑ̃ː/ occur only in loanwords from French."
But you try to say those. No monoglot English speaker could attempt it.
They just can't be convinced to talk through their noses. :)
> The non-native /iː, yː, uː, ɛː, œː, ɔː/ occur only in stressed syllables. In unstressed syllables, they are replaced by the closest native vowel. For instance, verbs corresponding to the nouns analyse /aːnaːˈliːzə/ⓘ ('analysis'), centrifuge /sɛntriˈfyːzjə/ⓘ ('spinner'), and zone /ˈzɔːnə/ⓘ ('zone') are analyseren /aːnaːliˈzeːrən/ⓘ ('to analyze'), centrifugeren /sɛntrifyˈɣeːrən/ⓘ ('to spin-dry'), and zoneren /zoːˈneːrən/ ('to divide into zones').[47]
/œː/ is extremely rare, and the only words of any frequency in which it occurs are oeuvre [ˈœːvrə]ⓘ, manoeuvre [maˈnœːvrə]ⓘ and freule. In the
 
@tchrist Sure he could attempt it!
 
No Englishman has ever drunk un bon vin blanc.
Or at least, asked for it correctly. :)
 
1:39 AM
Then he ought to practise.
 
If I were to pick the symbol from the IPA chart that is the hardest to pronounce, it's freakin' /ɧ/.
 
No idea what that sounds like!
 
Its place of articulation is "disputed". That's why.
I guess I cannot dance Caramelldansen because of this.
 
mac(tchrist)% echo /ɧ/ | unx
/ɧ/ :: /ɧ/:
 ɧ	Sje-sound                          	U+0267  LATIN SMALL LETTER HENG WITH HOOK
"Sje-sound" does not help me as much as somebody thought it would.
 
Sounds like ʃ?
 
1:51 AM
Accordingly, it's for the Swedish sj digraph, but its actual sound differs by dialects. I wonder why it was assigned a separate symbol at the first place?
@Cerberus It's likely to sound like /ʍ/ to English speakers. I doubt there is a sibilant counterpart to /ʍ/.
 
> These sounds are transcribed ⟨ɧ⟩ in the International Phonetic Alphabet. The International Phonetic Association (IPA) describes them as "simultaneous [ʃ] and [x]", but this realization is not attested, and phoneticians doubt that it actually occurs in any language.[1]
 
@DannyuNDos I don't know that one either. I'll just have to look it up.
 
The sj-sound (Swedish: sj-ljudet [ˈɧêːˌjʉːdɛt]) is a voiceless fricative phoneme found in the sound system of most dialects of Swedish. It has a variety of realisations, whose precise phonetic characterisation is a matter of debate, but which usually feature distinct labialization. The sound is represented in Swedish orthography by a number of spellings, including the digraph ⟨sj⟩ from which the common Swedish name for the sound is derived, as well as ⟨stj⟩, ⟨skj⟩, and (before front vowels) ⟨sk⟩. The sound should not be confused with the Swedish tj-sound /ɕ/, often spelled ⟨tj⟩, ⟨kj⟩, or (before...
I have failed to understand how [ʃ] and [ʍ] could be mistaken/connected.
 
Britishism of the day -- to carry the can (to take responsibility)
 
Carry water for someone?
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Q: To "carry water [for somebody]"

FujibeiWhat does "carry water for" mean in the following context? When Comey testified, there was nobody carrying water for the White House on the Senate Russia probe -- even though half of the panel is comprised of Senate Republicans. But that changed Tuesday, with a variety of Republicans coming t...

 
1:57 AM
Verb: carry the can (third-person singular simple present carries the can, present participle carrying the can, simple past and past participle carried the can)
  1. (Britain, Canada, idiomatic) To take responsibility, especially in a challenging situation.
  2. 1998 April 25, Arati R. Jerath, "18 partners hunt for one voice," Indian Express (Bombay) (retrieved 21 Oct 2008):
  3. For Vajpayee, who is keen that he alone does not carry the can for his unwieldy alliance, it is a tough decision.
 
> A few letters that did not indicate specific sounds have been retired (⟨ˇ⟩, once used for the "compound" tone of Swedish and Norwegian, and ⟨ƞ⟩, once used for the moraic nasal of Japanese), though one remains: ⟨ɧ⟩, used for the sj-sound of Swedish. When the IPA is used for phonemic transcription, the letter–sound correspondence can be rather loose. For example, ⟨c⟩ and ⟨ɟ⟩ are used in the IPA Handbook for /t͡ʃ/ and /d͡ʒ/.
@CowperKettle Yes, that looks different. Hm.
 
Regarding /ʍ/... Is it possible to undo the wine-whine merger?
 
Sure.
 
witch-which. wight-white. ware-where.
 
Most of us were taught that most word-initial <wh> "should" be pronounced "hw", at least if you're well-spoken.
 
2:06 AM
Those poms and their odd idioms.
 
We're most often to do it for an interrogative at the beginning of a question.
@CowperKettle It's far more common in Scotland than in England, although Stephen Frye does what I just described.
 
Yeah I always say hwo.
 
Who knows what brad means, without looking up in a dictionary?
 
It's suppressed if a rounded back vowel follows it: who, how, whore, whose, whooping.
There it's just /h/.
But why, where, what, which, whence take /hw/.
 
@tchrist There's a reason why John Oliver once jokingly referred to himself as the "[ʍ]hitest of [ʍ]hite men"
 
2:09 AM
Because the rounded back vowel has the rounding that "w" would give it.
@alphabet As young children we were certainly taught in school that we "should" say it that way, at least when declaiming on stage and in singing. I doubt most of us did so normally.
So I might do it for oratorical emphasis but I don't think I always do it in casual conversation.
@DannyuNDos We can certainly make that distinction, if we wish to.
It's not one of those that we can't say or hear.
And there are many regions where it persists. Scotland. The south of the United States. Occasionally in the well-elocuted.
 
I always (no offense) assume people who talk that way are about to complain about kids these days with their sagging pants and cornrows
 
Wherefore we proceed to do both.
@alphabet Because it sounds like listening to a preacher at church!
 
@tchrist With people who believe themselves to be well-elocuted, that is
 
Well, Stephen Frye has said that they must go to school. :)
 
@tchrist Yes, the Southern, Alabama kind with a Confederate flag out frond.
I find it irksome, if you haven't noticed.
 
2:17 AM
It's just a way to aspirate that initial consonant. :)
Like so many other unvoiced consonants at the start of a stressed syllable. It's just odd that this is a glide that you're aspirating/devoicing.
 
People who adopt it seem to take great pleasure in "speaking correctly," presumably because they heeded the school lessons you described
(s/frond/front/ above)
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Q: What are the characteristics of masculine and feminine speech in English?

Micheal GignacI imagine that people will instinctively say, "There is no masculine or feminine speech in English," but I am not so sure. For instance, the stereotype is that men speak roughly and women speak softly. Then there is the usage of tag questions, fillers, and raising one's voice pitch so that the se...

 
@alphabet Now, now. Just think: if you had never had your wrist slapped for saying dint instead of didn't, you would likely still be saying it.
 
I worried this would turn into some sort of comments section war. It did...but only over the quality of the sole answer.
@tchrist Corporal punishment as a kid. That's why those people turned out that way.
 
General education.
 
Presumably wrist-slapping causes both the usage of [ʍ] and the sense that kids these days have it too easy. Correlation, not causation.
 
2:29 AM
Primary education always involves normative correction to chase away bad habits that would get you looked down on in formal written English. Think about how they stomp out negative concord and even ain't.
 
These are also the people who insist that lie and lay are still fully separate verbs.
 
We've heard you expound upon your confusion before.
Life would be easier if you could care less.
 
@tchrist Well, yeah, so long as formal written English continues to be judged by upper-class white guys, I suppose it's good to learn how to appeal to them.
 
@alphabet No, the professional class is not the upper class.
If you expect to be published, you will conform.
If you do not conform, you will not be published.
And if you are not published, you fail.
 
@tchrist That is, fortunately, starting to change. Slowly.
 
2:35 AM
Twitter and Instagram are not publishing houses producing refereed journals.
Ain't nobody ginna take yiz seryesly ifin you rite how u plz.
 
You'd be surprised. But, yes, structural racism and classism run deep, and as long as they do people will continue to hate negative concord.
 
Are you a white man?
 
I am a black-and-white-striped raccoon.
 
You took yaz too long to answer that one, coon.
 
Hey, get that anti-raccoon slur out of your mouth.
But I fail to see the relevance.
 
2:40 AM
Now I understand your prejudice.
When someone falls and hits their head, you ask them them whether they're ok. There are two possible answers: an immediate and heartfelt YES, and anything else.
Since you did not immediately say yes, you have told us the answer is no.
That's fine.
 
Not sure I agree!
There could be various reasons.
 
I'm sure you think it's fine, too.
 
I would love to know the relevance of my race, gender, or species to the accuracy of my argumentation.
 
I didn't ask about your gender, only your sex.
 
Why thank you for the clarification. You get 10 anti-woke points. 50 more and you can write a Substack.
 
2:44 AM
You should never feel any shame that you are not a white man.
 
(I am one, just to clarify. But it took me a while to decide to decide how to respond to that rather odd inquiry.)
 
The election will be wild.
 
Imagine having more than two parties to choose from.
 
Notice how the black party is all new (no thin, faded bar).
 
Google tells me it's a centrist, Christian democratic party?
 
2:47 AM
Yes.
Led by a man of integrity.
Such populism!!
It's astounding.
We've never seen the like, at least not since 1966.
And then it happened far more slowly, over many elections.
 
Adopting the lingo of "structural racism and classism" as reason to dismiss the utility of normative education to produce an educated and literate populace capable of participating in a functioning and hopefully democratic society may be popular if you're an upper class intellectual academic counting angels dancing on pinheads, but it will not gain you sympathy outside those circles. We do not award an A for effort, nor for obfuscation. Only results.
 
Did European politics suddenly get saner without my noticing?
@tchrist I have a friend who's a public school teacher. They're now being explicitly trained not to correct students on these points. Times are changing.
 
@alphabet Well, Dutch politics were already relatively sane.
 
Anyway, I don't see no reason why nobody who uses negative concord can't participate in no democracy. Unless that democracy excludes people who don't talk "correctly."
 
And there are few European countries where anything like a right-wing populist landslide is possible at all.
 
2:54 AM
The new math was just as successful as the new reading: not.
If you rear a generation who cannot read and write, you have failed in the single most important mission of education. And you've wasted their time on expensive babysitting.
They will not thank you.
 
Surely one can learn to read and write as well in one dialect as in another.
 
Let me know how that turns out for you.
 
I think society will survive if the next generation uses ain't. Society could even survive the adoption of might could.
 
Go ahead and let the kids write in eye-dialect. If it was good enough for Chaucer, it's good enough for them. And they won't be able to read each other's work, nor works of dialects written just a few thousand miles away, let alone half the world away.
Every generation will use ain't. You can't stop that.
That is not the point.
 
I doubt that people who use negative concord are unable to understand those who don't. Or vice-versa.
 
3:02 AM
The European Parliament.
Everything from left to the largest blue group is left to moderate right.
Turquoise, dark blue, and much of grey are far right.
The total being such a large mass of voters, it is fairly stable.
I mean, there are trends, but no landslides.
 
Like most Yankees, you yourself berate the speech of Southerners as sounding alternately under- or over-educated. How does that comport with letting them talk and write however they want?
 
Indeed. American media only covers EU politics when crazy things happen. Not when boring things happen.
 
That's shocking.
While European politics is the master of things boring, bar none.
The far-right groups shrank quite a bit when Britain left.
 
@tchrist Tu quoque is the last refuge of the refuted. And I'm sure some [ʍ]-users are good people.
 
@CowperKettle Sure, a brad is a kind of nail.
 
3:08 AM
I'm just trying to axe you to unravel the hippy crits.
 
@alphabet Yes, but there may not be much to read.
 
Surely you're not one of those anti-/æks/ers.
@Xanne Most people who primarily speak one dialect of English are quite capable of communicating with speakers of others. I don't think anyone who uses negative concord in their everyday speech thereby has any trouble understanding The New York Times.
If people don't learn to understand or communicate with speakers of other dialects, that would be a problem in our educational system. But one hardly needs to adopt a dialect to understand it.
 
@Xanne Well done!
 
@Cerberus It would be prettier if you could assign them colors whose hues were in spectral order from red to violet or vice versa. A rainbow by column not by row, so to speak.
 
A brad point is also a kind of drill bit. A quite useful one, in my experience.
 
3:25 AM
@tchrist Well, it was Wikipaedia who chose and arranged those colours.
 
Anyway, gotta go. The night is young, and tomorrow is trash day.
 
> Brad point drill bits are specially designed to drill and bore clean holes in hard and soft woods without wandering. These drill bits have been designed with a center pin as seen in the images above and below.
@alphabet Interestign!
 
3:45 AM
@alphabet Looks like in Russian they call it three-point bit for some reason, but I'm not sure. Why "three point"?
Each time I google Russian sites for "brad point", I come across "трехточечное сверло" (three-point bit).
 
And then there’s Brad Pitt.
 
4:36 AM
@Xanne a whole in the ground for dumping brads
 
4:55 AM
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@M.A.R. - Iranians and Russians united and made an umbrella meta-analysis of L-carnitine frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2023.1214734/full
Good to see that we unite not only for making Shaheds :)
I'm not sure about the quality of their meta analysis though, since I'm not an expert in that.
 
 
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12:48 PM
Is Shahed Iranian word?
Or is it same as Hindi Shaheed word which means martyr.
 
1:07 PM
Shaheed (Arabic: شهيد [ʃahiːd], fem. شهيدة [ʃahiːdah], pl. شُهَدَاء [ʃuhadaː]; Punjabi: ਸ਼ਹੀਦ) denotes a martyr in Islam and Sikhism. The word is used frequently in the Quran in the generic sense of "witness" but only once in the sense of "martyr" (i.e. one who dies for his faith); the latter sense acquires wider usage in the hadith.The term is commonly used as a posthumous title for those who are considered to have accepted or even consciously sought out their own death in order to bear witness to their beliefs. Like the English-language word martyr, in the 20th century, the word shahid came...
 
> In South Asia, Hindus adopted the word "shahid" as a synonym to the Sanskrit word "hutātmā" (हुतात्मा in Devanagari and হুতাত্মা in Bengali; हुत् and হুত্ hut = sacrificing, आत्मा and আত্মা ātmā = soul, thus hutātmā = sacrificing soul / martyr), to denote Hindu martyrs.
 
1:27 PM
@CowperKettle its Arabic roots are a bit more complicated, but "Shahed" in Farsi means "witness", and "Shaheed" means "martyr"
@Vikas yeah, same word
 
@jlliagre Oh, that could be it. I must have typed union first, thinking I typed onion. I wonder why they don't use the yellow/green coding that the Wordle games do.
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2:32 PM
These buildings were built when Boris Yeltsin was the local Governor
Back in the Soviet times.
Or "First Secretary of the Party Committee in Sverdlovsk Oblast"
He was one of the youngest regional governors in the 1970s
 
I've reduced my walk to merely 1.6 miles. Will increase a little now that weather is slowly becoming more friendly. I feel more energetic in winter.
 
@Vikas 1.6 miles is not bad!
I usually memorize poems during walks.
Today I started memorizing this one, but managed only the first two lines.
 
That's a significant drop. I can see it in my app.
So last winter was my peak.
 
Oh, my peak probably was in 2018, when I started having depression, so I dropped out of work, and intermittently took park in long bicycle rides, and the next 2 days just crawled around the apartment.
Because after every exertion I still feel deterioration of mood and sometimes bouts of extreme fatigue.
 
May 1, 2020 at 1:24, by Robusto
When is your foot not a foot? When it's asleep.
@CowperKettle I know it by heart.
 
2:45 PM
@Robusto Oh! Great!
 
Think of how aural it is, with all the sounds of peacefulness.
 
I came across it somewhere on Facebook, in a literature group.
 
May 1, 2020 at 0:25, by Robusto
It was my father's favorite poem, and I thought it thus appropriate to read at his funeral, and I was completely unaware that at the beginning of the second stanza I would suddenly and forcefully understand what it was all about, and what it meant to him.
 
@CowperKettle Seems like easy to understand. Easy words.
 
> Tranquility at length, when autumn comes,
Will lie upon the spirit like that haze
Touching far islands on fine autumn days
With tenderest blue, like bloom on purple plums
My friend translated this one to Russian nicely.
@Robusto Oh! I don't even know my father's favorite poem
I know that he loved Pink Floyd when in his 30s
 
 
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4:09 PM
Ramzan Kadyrov has published a video (!) in which his 15 yo son is beating up a 19 yo detainee in a police station, leaving a comment "I'm proud of my son". t.me/tvrain/70906
Imagine a US state governor posting a video of his son kicking and beating with fists a detainee in a police station.
What can clearer say "law is dead in this country", I don't know.
 
@CowperKettle We're getting there, I'm afraid.
 
I can recall only one case when a US parliament member beat up another member with a cane.
Somewhere in the 1850s
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The caning of Charles Sumner, or the Brooks–Sumner Affair, occurred on May 22, 1856, in the United States Senate chamber, when Representative Preston Brooks, a pro-slavery Democrat from South Carolina, used a walking cane to attack Senator Charles Sumner, an abolitionist Republican from Massachusetts. The attack was in retaliation for an invective-laden speech given by Sumner two days earlier in which he fiercely criticized slaveholders, including pro-slavery South Carolina Senator Andrew Butler, a relative of Brooks. The beating nearly killed Sumner and contributed significantly to the country...
> Brooks died unexpectedly from a violent attack of croup on January 27, 1857, a few weeks before the March 4 start of the new congressional term to which he had been elected.
Oh, so young, only 37.
Now it's an easily treatable disease.
 
@CowperKettle That happened in the run-up to the Civil War. And this country has not been so perilously divided since that time, but seems to be becoming so.
 
> Across Switzerland there is space for approximately nine million people in one the country's 360,000 bunkers.
Turns out that the Constitution of Switzerland stipulates the presence of bunker space for every citizen. The only country on Earth that can play hide-and-seek with its whole population.
 
4:24 PM
Why do some people say if Republicans win election, they will stop helping Ukraine? Like Putin says, I don't see anything changing significantly. I think both parties' views would be eventually similar regardless of who is the President. Maybe it's just politics.
Imagine whole of Europe is helping Ukraine and USA doesn't help. It just doesn't work.
 
It's too far away into the future, a whole 12 months. A lot may change.
ChatGPT 6 may turn out smarter than any US presidential candidate.
 
LOL
 
@Vikas I think it is a bit uncertain.
Many Republicans have said they want to stop or greatly reduce support for Ukraine, especially Trump.
And various Republicans are actually now under some Russian influence.
 
@Cerberus Yeah but they would need to be in majority? I think their number is less.
 
4:28 PM
@Vikas Thus far, they are mainly a minority within the Republican party.
But what if Trump should become president?
He can then stop all help.
 
@Cerberus He would need approval of his members to make policy changes?
 
@Vikas Not really!
He can veto any military help, I believe.
 
Oh. Presidents also have veto.
 
Yes.
Parliament can overturn his veto with a two-thirds majority in both houses, I believe, which is very difficult.
 
Our President also has bigger powers than our PM, theoretically.
 
4:31 PM
And then there is the practical execution of sending help. The government organises such things, not parliament.
@Vikas But her powers aren't used?
 
@Cerberus government == top leaders?
@Cerberus Yeah. They are used rarely I guess.
 
Th government is the executive power, so president + cabinet. The other powers are the legislative (parliament) and judicial (judges) powers.
 
@Cerberus Got it.
 
@Vikas I think many countries have that system, similar to a constitutional monarchy like ours, except that our king has even less power in practice (but huge power in theory).
 
Like Cowp says, we'll have to wait 12 months to see how things are going.
 
4:40 PM
Longer!
More like 15.
 
4:57 PM
@Cerberus We call it Congress, not Parliament.
 
 
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@Robusto That is a proper name, not a common name.
 
8:26 PM
A deer ran into my husband's truck: smashed the windshield, broke off the side view mirror, left a skidmark across the driver's window, tucked a line of hair in there, vertically, and stuck it in place with either poop or poopy-looking blood, and dented in the extended cab area. IDK how that is physically possible.
 
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@M.A.R. Wikipedia mentions "witness" for Shahed drone, I guess.
> The HESA Shahed 136 (Persian: شاهد ۱۳۶, literally "Witness-136"), or Geran-2 (Russian: Герань-2, literally "Geranium-2") in Russian service,[8] is an Iranian loitering munition in the form of an autonomous pusher-prop drone.
So I think it might not be the word which means martyr.
 
@Vikas In Greek, martyr means witness.
 
@Cerberus So in this particular case of drone, it means martyr?
 
8:42 PM
@Vikas I have no idea!
 
@Cerberus In the US, Congress isn't referred to as "a parliament"; this is partly for historical reasons and because of its differences from a Westminster-system legislature
Of course, one can debate if this is just the US deciding it is special
 
@alphabet None of this matters.
It is a parliament.
Even if the people in it always use a more specific term.
 
Anyway, if Trump is reelected president, he will almost certainly be able to stop Ukraine aid without any issues. Overriding a veto is difficult: you'd need a majority of Republicans to introduce the bill and then enough Democrats to constitute a 2/3 majority, and any Republican congresspeople who try to override a veto will lose all support from pro-Trump voters
 
That is what I said.
 
Ah sorry I missed that
But I do think American aid to Ukraine is likely to stop at some point in the next couple years, regardless of who is president
 
8:50 PM
It may very well be reduced.
 
When we say "Congress" in India, it's the opposition political party name.
 
I know. The Congress Party.
4 hours ago, by Cerberus
He can then stop all help.
A congress is basically just a convention.
So it can be used to mean many things.
In Dutch, it only means conference.
 
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9:12 PM
Where there's a parliament, there should be owls.
 
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9:28 PM
@Cerberus Still, that's what we call it.
Besides, I think the Brits capitalize Parliament.
At least when not referring to owls.
 
None of this is relevant.
 
@Cerberus The relevance is that nobody calls our legislative branch a "parliament." Well, except for one.
 
9:50 PM
As I said, it is not relevant.
Look up earlier discussions in this very room about the subject.
 
Latin anatomy of the day: pinna (outer part of the ear)
 
@HippoSawrUs Deer can be very acrobatic when encountering large moving vehicles.
 
10:06 PM
@CowperKettle that's only your ol' pinion.
 
Qui parle ment ou dit vrai ?
 
qui voudrait, il dit vrai
Do they do a singular they en français?
 
Quis est qui mentitur et quis vera dicit?
Quis est noctua et quis vera dicit?
My hovercraft is full of owls.
 
10:26 PM
@Mitch No singular they, but we have a convenient pronoun that can substitute many personal pronouns: on.
 
10:50 PM
> Ziryab's musical contributions laid the early groundwork for classic Spanish music. His nickname "Ziryab", comes from the Persian word for jay-bird زرياب pronounced "Zaryāb". He was also known as Mirlo ('blackbird') in Spanish.
 
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