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@Robusto Hmm those war-haters are taking a risk.
 
Indeed.
 
3:12 AM
@Cerberus Yes, of course. I hope the dad will get only a suspended sentence, after all the media noise. And will get her back
 
@CowperKettle Phew.
So bad.
 
3:47 AM
ISW today reports that the Russian forces are near the center of Bakhmut. It has taken exactly 7 months.
 
"Near"?
Haven't they been near there for a while now?
 
Yes, probably :0)
 
But you're saying they have made a kind of breakthrough just today?
 
At a Yekaterinburg cemetery, a new plot was created specifically for unclaimed soldiers, mainly from Wagner.
And it's growing steadily.
Now and then, some relatives arrive and exhume a soldier to bring the body closer to home.
Well, at least the mercenary Prigozhin takes care to bury them properly with some respect.
 
Oh no. I just spotted a dengue mosquito. He rested on my shirt for a few seconds and I noticed his beautiful legs with the typical dotted patterns. It's not common to find them in this time of year. Maybe effect of rain.
 
3:54 AM
@Vikas Are you sure it can ge distinguished merely by sight?
Maybe it's only capable of transferring the infection, but does not necessarily carry it?
Aedes aegypti, the yellow fever mosquito, is a mosquito that can spread dengue fever, chikungunya, Zika fever, Mayaro and yellow fever viruses, and other disease agents. The mosquito can be recognized by black and white markings on its legs and a marking in the form of a lyre on the upper surface of its thorax. This mosquito originated in Africa, but is now found in tropical, subtropical and temperate regions throughout the world. == Biology == Aedes aegypti is a 4–7 millimetres (5⁄32–35⁄128 in) long, dark mosquito which can be recognized by white markings on its legs and a marking in the form...
> According to the Walter Reed Biosystematics Units as of 2022,[27] it is associated with the following 54 viruses and 2 species of Plasmodium:
It can carry more munitions than the A-10 Warthog
 
@CowperKettle You are right. It maynot be infected. But it still scares me.
 
Yesterday the year's first mosquito flew into my apartment.
Very early this year.
Starting from 1 April, Kazakhstan will start implementing a computerized system for tracking imports, in order to limit parallel imports into Russia. e1.ru/text/economics/2023/03/28/72168461
Some goods may become more expensive. Some border officials in Kazakhstan may become quite rich.
All for the benefit of the great nation of Kazakhstan :)
Borat! Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (Kazakh / Russian: Борат) (also stylized as BORДT, or simply Borat) is a 2006 mockumentary black comedy film directed by Larry Charles and starring Sacha Baron Cohen. Baron Cohen plays the leading role of Borat Sagdiyev, a fictional Kazakhstani journalist who travels through the United States in an outdated 1960s ice cream van to make a documentary which features real-life interactions with Americans. Much of the film features unscripted vignettes of Borat interviewing and interacting with real-life Americans who...
I never watched it though.
It must be hilarious.
Ukraine's General Staff today has reported that fighting is ongoing "to the west and northwest of Bakhmut", confirming that the town is very close to being encircled in a pocket. bbc.com/russian/live/news-64970998
 
@CowperKettle Unfortunately I gave him electric shock. He was trying to suck my blood while I was trying to type this message. BTW dotted legs are a sure sign it was Aedes?
 
@Vikas Oh, I'm not an expert on mosquitoes.
In Siberia, there was an urban legend that long-legged ones are the most dangerous.
But it was a legend. They are just scarier, because they are so large.
Dengue vaccine is a vaccine used to prevent dengue fever in humans. Development of dengue vaccines began in the 1920s, but was hindered by the need to create immunity against all four dengue serotypes.As of 2022, there are two commercially available vaccine and sold under the brand name Dengvaxia and Qdenga. Dengvaxia is only recommended in those who have previously had dengue fever or populations in which most people have been previously infected. The value of Dengavaxia is limited by the fact that it may increase the risk of severe dengue in those who have not previously been infected. In 2017...
Curious. Vaccines are not recommended for dengue-naive humans.
Only for those who have been previously infected.
 
I took a photo.
 
4:08 AM
Looks cool.
 
Legs are dotted.
 
It has some 50 000 neurons, I guess, in the brain.
My mistake.
> The mosquito brain contains approximately 220,000 neurons, also with approximately half originating from the optic lobes.
> 217,910 ±6,180 cells in Ae. aegypti,
A huge neural network.
 
@CowperKettle Oh. I'm eligible then.
 
@CowperKettle Ohh interesting.
 
Mushroom bodies in the Drosophila brain. A picture I uploaded to Wikipedia in 2009. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_bodies
 
4:22 AM
> What do you call a constipated detective?
No shit Sherlock
 
4:43 AM
@CowperKettle I couldn't find anything on a serious Russian advance in Bakhmut?
 
@Cerberus I think they are already trying seriously. It's just that they fail to do so.
 
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5:49 AM
Poe of the day.
 
 
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> Cambodia correspondent Nate Thayer said of Chomsky and Herman's Nation article that they "denied the credibility of information leaking out of Cambodia of a bloodbath underway and viciously attacked the authors of reportage suggesting many were suffering under the Khmer Rouge."
Cambodian genocide denial was the belief expressed by many Western academics that claims of atrocities committed by the Khmer Rouge government (1975–1979) in Cambodia were much exaggerated. Many scholars of Cambodia and intellectuals opposed to the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War denied or minimized the human rights abuses of the Khmer Rouge, characterizing contrary reports as "tales told by refugees" and U.S. propaganda. They viewed the assumption of power by the Communist Party of Kampuchea as a positive development for the people of Cambodia who had been severely impacted by the Vietnam...
If there's ever a vote for the Useful Idiot Prize, I'd vote for Chomsky.
 
 
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Norwegian of the day: morfar (mother's father) en.wiktionary.org/wiki/morfar#Noun
 
9:31 AM
It's +14°C
Very warm for this time of the year.
 
9:54 AM
@CowperKettle It was a while ago and some of the details are lost to me, but I think they terribly misrepresented his position?
He was saying Kissinger bombing Cambodia made way for Khmer rouge, and they twisted it into saying he's a genocide denier.
At least I think
 
@M.A.R. Yes, it could be so. I don't doubt that he means well.
Spatula is a genus or subgenus of ducks in the family Anatidae that includes the shovelers, garganey, and several species of American teals. == Taxonomy == The species now placed in this genus were formerly placed in the genus Anas. A molecular phylogenetic study comparing mitochondrial DNA sequences published in 2009 found that the genus Anas, as then defined, was non-monophyletic. Based on this published phylogeny, the genus Anas was split into four monophyletic genera with 10 species moved into the resurrected genus Spatula.The genus Spatula had originally been proposed by the German zoologist...
 
@CowperKettle he I think used Chinese and Cambodian sources to give an account on the bombings and how they gave rise to Pol Pot, and they instead twisted his position into advocating for Pol Pot. Knowing Nixon's lot, I thought this was likely. It's also likely that when the debate got heated he did in fact say things that could be construed as saying Pol Pot was less evil and more an American creation
 
There should be some kind of international court that could at least give some mild sentences to US politicians for such things. Or else any supporter of democracy in a tyrrannical country will be forced to admit that the US is "more equal than others".
 
10:18 AM
@CowperKettle one other telling fact is that I've never been able to find an actual quote that seems in support of Pol Pot. It's just "this journalist said this, this academic said that". Maybe I haven't looked hard enough, but the undeniable truth is people that don't want to listen to what he says like branding him without any real quotes everywhere
@Cowp I read like half of it, some things come to mind
1) Why bold italics? The author is frustrated and obviously hates Chomsky.
2) The gist of it seems to be that Chomsky said he didn't believe some of the initial images that were released were credible, and some of them did turn out to be true.
3) Chomsky's main talking point is America's role in all of this has been whitewashed, and the author takes offense to that, comparing Chomsky's criticism of mainstream media to that of the recent Republicons.
4) The main angle of attack is Chomsky has said he has agreed with some of the more skeptical authors. Some of the more skeptical authors (initially) declared they don't believe a genocide is happening. There's nowhere in sight where it's explicitly said Chomsky has said there's no genocide, at least that I can see.
5) I dunno about the author's "justice". What justice did Chomsky obstruct, and who was to serve it? More American involvement in Southeast Asia? Surely unpopular.
 
10:37 AM
I don't know what would be the best solution with Vietnam.
 
6) "Unrepentant"? Have there been recent developments? Dunno. But should he have changed his opinion simply because he was asked later?
> Chomsky has written numerous tracts and books defending his position since, including “Manufacturing Consent”, published alongside Edward Herman in 1988, a work Chomsky boasts is “a rare study that does not contain errors”. He and Herman also wrote “After the Cataclysm,” which said “In the first place, is it proper to attribute deaths from malnutrition and disease to Cambodian authorities?”

Both books are on the Cambodian period under the Khmer Rouge and the role of the media in intentionally writing propaganda in the service of the US government.
This guy has not read Manufacturing Consent, or is being deliberately disingenuous.
 
I should look for the audioversions of this.
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media is a 1988 book by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky. It argues that the mass communication media of the U.S. "are effective and powerful ideological institutions that carry out a system-supportive propaganda function, by reliance on market forces, internalized assumptions, and self-censorship, and without overt coercion", by means of the propaganda model of communication. The title refers to consent of the governed, and derives from the phrase "the manufacture of consent" used by Walter Lippmann in Public Opinion (1922). The book was...
Whoa. Chomsky Audiobook Collection, 5 Gb.
I'll get this torrent.
 
6) Chomsky has said, also about Vietnam, how some commie policies benefited people. I don't find this hard to believe. Our own revolution initially aimed at making life easier for poor and middle-class Iranians. The author seems to believe that either you agree every single action taken is pure evil, or you're endorsing a genicidal regime.
 
A fairer distribution of wealth, and more abilities for talented young people to make a career.
But in the subsequent decades, corruption and the establishment of "nomenklatura", a layer of people who push their sons/daughters to the cushy positions.
Lenin in his last two years of life was very concerned about corruption and the bloating of the administration.
It was quite a surprise to him.
Like the founding fathers in the USA were very concerned about the north/south slavery divide, and indeed a war followed.
 
Overall I don't find the article to be convincing in anything but his passionate hatred for Chomsky, needless to say. The first impressions with all the bold italics didn't help.
 
10:50 AM
Yes, Chomsky is a good guy, but he'd better always stress that totalitarian countries are bad :)
A 22 yo medical student injected herself with some drug based on placentar cells, and died msk1.ru/text/criminal/2023/03/28/72170120
I don't even know what kind of drug. Just placenta, finely ground? O_O
> Antioxidant effect of human placenta hydrolysate against oxidative stress on muscle atrophy onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jcp.27034
 
@CowperKettle self-made?
 
Looks like it's some bleeding-age unproven anti-aging stuff.
 
With biological drugs, an anaphylactic reaction is always a possibility, however small.
 
Yes
Maybe in the end it will be useful for some patients with some severe diseases.
 
It's less likely with newer technologies (monoclonal human antibodies, for example)
 
10:58 AM
One of USSR's top level officials liked to experiment with blood transfusion in the 1920s, and died of it.
Alexander Aleksandrovich Bogdanov (Russian: Алекса́ндр Алекса́ндрович Богда́нов; 22 August 1873 [O.S. 10 August] – 7 April 1928), born Alexander Malinovsky, was a Russian and later Soviet physician, philosopher, science fiction writer, and Bolshevik revolutionary. He was a key figure in the early history of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party (later the Communist Party of the Soviet Union), originally established 1898, and of its Bolshevik faction. Bogdanov co-founded the Bolsheviks in 1903, when they split with the Menshevik faction. He was a rival within the Bolsheviks to Vladimir Lenin...
> His wide scientific and medical interests ranged from the universal systems theory to the possibility of human rejuvenation through blood transfusion. He invented an original philosophy called "tectology", now regarded as a forerunner of systems theory.
> In the Battle of Tannenberg, August 26–30, the Second Army was surrounded and almost completely destroyed, but Bogdanov survived because he had been sent to accompany a seriously wounded officer to Moscow.
Wow, he survived the Tannenberg encirclement in WWI.
Early communists were so interesting as persons.
 
 
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@CowperKettle And colorless green ideas sleep furiously.
Which is to say you've constructed a sentence formally out of appropriate words, but together they don't make sense. Who is he useful to? How is he an idiot? In what sense is he a 'useful idiot' (according to the idiom of being manipulated by others unknowingly to their ends)? The worst you can say about his political writings is that they are depressing.
 
> World-renowned Scientist Noam Chomsty: Censorship in the USA is worse than it was in the USSR russkiymir.ru/publications/303455
Published on the website called The Russian World (pro-Putin)
 
Sometimes it is difficult to see where he's coming from (ie he complains about the US but not the USSR) which makes it look like he is anti-US. But he is not superficial... he complains about things that he feels within his ability to make a difference (ie the US may be doing bad things but they are corrigible, they might actually listen, whereas even if totalitarian govts are doing bad things, they are unlikely to listen to his complaints)
 
> Eventually, the idea of the "Russian world" was adopted by the Russian administration, and Vladimir Putin decreed the establishment of the government-sponsored Russkiy Mir Foundation in 2007. A number of observers consider the promotion of the "Russian world" concept an element of the revanchist idea of the restoration of Russia
"American Scientist says: the world has no right to criticise Russia" ura.news/news/1052606205
A news report from 2022.
> "The West has no right to criticize Russia after the invasion of Iraq and Libya. This was stated by the American historian Noam Chomsky."
 
@CowperKettle That's headline clickbait. I do think that Chomsky would say that US News is much more government controlled (either explicitly or implicitly) than most regular people believe. I don't think Chomsky would say it is on the same level as USSR.
@CowperKettle I think most people in the world see that, while not the same, there are some points of similarities between the US invasion of Iraq and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. "has no right" seems a little strong though. I don't know if Chomsky has used those words. He surely says things like the West is hypocritical.
 
 
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@Mitch I just illustrated how his statements are being used by Putin's propaganda.
> Russian military reporter Sladkov claims that 50,000 of North Korean spetsnaz are ready to join the war on the Russian side.
A "military reporter" may simply be wagging his tongue.
At least I hope so.
@Mitch Yes, most likely it's clickbait
 
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@Vikas Yeah, that was also my impression.
 
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Each time a stewardess yawns, a deaf passenger is preparing to die.
> A cat is opening a food can
 
3:50 PM
@CowperKettle Sometimes when they are saying controversial things about facts (rather than opinions or predictions) they can be used by the other side when reinterpreted.
The opinion of Chomsky in the West by the mainstream is that what he talks about is 'news from Neptune', ie most people haven't heard of the atrocities he condemns because the Western media doesn't publish anything about it (or hides it in plain sight eg with very short articles nowhere near the front page) That's one of the points of 'Manufacturing Consent'.
 
Ah, simpler times, when internet links were "go to fun pic"
 
Horrible video of a soldier being hit on the helmet with a bullet. He is in such shock that he does not duck enough, and just takes off the helmet and touches his head to make sure it's okay. I was afraid every moment he would be hit with the next bullet right in the unprotected head.
In the movie Saving Private Ryan one soldier was killed in exactly this way.. first hit on the helmet, then took it off to make sure, and then died.
 
3:59 PM
@CowperKettle He is no historian, though.
Just a linguist.
 
Yes.
 
A very powerful one.
 
@CowperKettle absolutely any critique of the west is like gold rush for these people. One can't simply stop criticizing especially the US just because of that. Besides, keeping in mind that a lot of nations sending arms to Ukraine and supporting them don't have particularly benevolent intentions is how one avoids any possible prowar hysteria in case things shift that way
@user726941 he can bench press 300 pounds
 
I read 385 lbs
Without straps.
 
He can do burpee while juggling Quirk et al.
 
4:11 PM
@M.A.R. Hmm your last sentence was a bit difficult to understand.
Western countries have sold lots of weapons to régimes using them in horrible wars even recently, such as in Yemen.
So, yes, there is a lot of hypocrisy.
 
With China on Putin's side this a remake of the Vietnam war.
 
> from ὑποκρίνομαι (hupokrínomai, “I answer (a fellow actor on stage), play a part, dissemble, feign”), from ὑπό (hupó, “under, equivalent of the modern "hypo-" prefix”) + the middle voice of κρίνω (krínō, “I separate, judge, decide”).
"sub-decide"?
A good Ukrainian song in the 1960s dark country style, with Vietnam footage
 
Thanks for the clip.
 
I came across this band only 2 months ago.
Zwyntar means cemetery in Ukrainian.
 
@CowperKettle I sent this to a friend who works with deaf people and she says, "i know it's a joke... but to be fair... deaf people tend to be really good at reading emotions and a yawn comes off a lot differently than a scream."
 
4:19 PM
Reading emotions involves body language, right?
 
And facial expressions.
 
Right, right.
 
You can tell how a yawn is different from screaming. Jaw more open wide, eyes drooping, not alert
 
Something we can't do in here.
 
Also person is not making a beeline for the cockpit.
 
4:22 PM
The 9/11footage showed a lot of shocking stewardess facts.
 
BTW, it turns out that facial expressions are a big part of ASL.
@user726941 Such as?
 
I was on a train and there were several deaf people. So I went online and memorized several deaf language gestures. The guy on the bunk below me was pleased.
 
@Robusto Radio contact with the control towers.
 
During a Russian propaganda program, the guy forgot to switch off his screen capture and everybody saw how he made a photo of a busty woman in the audience.
 
@Robusto The air traffic controllers actually heard the announcements made to the passengers by the hijackers.
 
4:27 PM
In which they said what?
 
We are hijacking this plane.
 
But not their real intentions.
 
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But, and here's the clincher, when the controllers talked to each other they said the planes appear to be hijacked.
 
This guy is a couple of hundreds of years too early to ask such a question.
Hmm, rather, they're ahead of their times.
 
4:35 PM
Basically, they argued like lawyers over the radio the whole time, until they hit the towers.
 
Argued about what? The legality of what they were doing?
 
Whether there was a hijacking actually taking place.
 
Here's the real clincher: On a PC Microsoft is "downloading" office apps, yet I don't have wifi on
 
@M.A.R. Which version of Windows are you using?
 
10. Works well enough, I'm not fussy
No updates have caused the PC to think my Windows is pirated, and no updates have bricked the PC! Truly amazing
 
4:46 PM
Perhaps you were in the middle of a download when you lost wifi?
 
I'll switch to Windows 11.
 
I wonder if news organizations are now receiving templates for what stories to run based on the trending interests by Google and other data-hogging privacy violators.
 
Nope, the bar slowly started filling up in a few minutes
@Vikas it's not the most popular OS it seems. I wouldn't
 
I would, but first I need a spacier SSD
 
@Robusto I should think they were.
 
4:59 PM
> Until Russia itself changes, until it falls apart, until all these seams that bind the subjects of the federation by force are untied, there will be nothing good there. The so-called Russian people have a birth curse, a genetic trauma or a genetic code.
That is, they are simply not ready to leave their comfort zone and start thinking differently, as it is too traumatic for them. They cannot cross this threshold in any way. And until this happens, leaders like Putin will be born and come to power there.
 
Hm. Windows 11 might not install due to sanctions. I dunno. Did not try it.
 
@Robusto I'm not sure to what extent it is a kind of 'Volksart' as opposed to simply a certain power structure in government?
 
@Cerberus That is from an article in "The New Voice of Ukraine"; therefore, I am not all that confident in the provenance.
 
@Robusto Hmm.
 
5:05 PM
For one thing, the article suggests that Navalny would be just as bad as Putin.
@Cerberus It was in my feed. It did not originate with Yahoo: news.yahoo.com/us-china-agreed-replace-putin-104600250.html
 
@Robusto That seems unlikely.
But I do think the age-old structure of Russian government is a big part of the problem.
 
I really don't know quite what to make of it. But I do agree that Russia gravitates to tyrants.
 
Ukrainians love to hate Navalny, because he is a populist who even participated in the nationalistic march in Moscow once.
 
See also the old structure of the Prussian government, inherited from the Teutonic Knights.
 
Yes.
 
5:07 PM
@CowperKettle What was that march about?
 
@Cerberus Hier herrscht Ordnung.
 
@Cerberus Русский Марш, a nationalistic event
 
World War II destroyed the old Prussian structures at last.
 
The Russian march (Russian: Русский марш, romanized: Russkiy marsh) is an annual demonstration in which several Russian nationalist organizations participate, many of them neo-Nazi, in several major Russian cities under the slogan "it's our country", attached to 4 November, the Day of National Unity. Among the most notable participants were the Movement Against Illegal Immigration, the main organiser of rallies, Eurasian Youth Union of Alexander Dugin, Dmitry Demushkin, the National State Party of Russia and the State Duma deputy Nikolay Kuryanovich who was excluded from the Liberal Democratic...
 
Hmm is it also anti-Ukrainian?
 
5:09 PM
> The 2006 Russian march was banned by city mayor Yuriy Luzhkov on 31 October. Despite condemning the xenophobic nature of The March, the Deputy Chief of the Moscow branch of Yabloko Alexey Navalny advocated for the permission of the event in the framework of freedom of assembly.
Ah, he attended as an observer.
@Cerberus No, it wasn't anti-Ukrainian.
 
Freedom of assembly is important.
 
It was mostly against Central Asian guest workers, I think
 
@CowperKettle And yet this is a major reason for some Ukrainians to hate Navalny?
 
They suspect him of being also a "pro-Russian-Empire"
Navalny also said during a radio discussion that Crimea is "not a sandwich" and should not be just given back to Ukraine. "The people of Crimea should decide". Ukrainians still strongly remember this phrase.
In the sense that it's not to be just swapped freely back and forth, like a sandwich.
 
@CowperKettle Yeah I can understand why Ukraine should be suspicious of "letting the Crimeans decide", considering the fake referendum held there after the Russian conquest.
But it can be interpreted as being in good faith also.
 
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Word of the evening: ganzflicker
 
And I think some polls before the conquest showed considerable support for joining Russia?
 
Oh, I don't know
According to the Ukr laws, the whole country should approve in a referendum
 
I think some did, but I think they may have also been called into question.
@CowperKettle Right.
 
And in Russia now, even proposing a seccession referendum is punishable by jail. The law was adopted, strangely, right after 2014. A sheer coincidence.
 
But it is an argument.
@CowperKettle I'm sure Putin was displeased when the Duma adopted this law without his prior knowledge.
 
 
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Graphics are not from live victims, but show in 3D what did happen to children.
Republicans' top agenda item in the House of Representatives? Declaring the AR-15 the official gun of America. How fucking sick is that?
 
Quite.
 
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pee peelol i pee pee my pants heheheh

I think we need some attention to this one. @Laurel, @tchrist?
Thank you, whoever you may be.
 
It was tchrist but I'm here to take the credit
 
Thank you! You are a saviour!
Good enough? Or is that a bit over the top?
 
@Robusto U put the u in savior lol
We can call it a team effort
 
@Laurel That's how it's spelled in the Book of Common Prayer.
Seriously, I have read so much in both British and American English that sometimes I just glom onto the British version.
 
Ah that makes sense
 
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Example: I often use grey instead of gray. To me, they seem like two different colors: grey is a metallic color, whereas gray is wispier, the color of a grandmother's hair, to give just one example.
Also the color of some of my own hair, sad to say.
 
@Robusto Two shades of gris.
 
@jlliagre And of gris-gris.
Gris-gris (, also spelled grigri, and sometimes also "gregory" or "gerregery") is a Voodoo amulet originating in Africa which is believed to protect the wearer from evil or bring luck, and in some West African countries is used as a supposed method of birth control. It consists of a small cloth bag, usually inscribed with verses from an African ancestor containing a ritual number of small objects, worn on the person. == Etymology == Although the exact origins of the word are unknown, some historians trace the word back to the Yoruba word juju meaning fetish. An alternative theory is that the word...
 
Grey might be the only British spelling that I use. Well maybe also cancelled (and its ilk). I also use the American spelling of both
I also tend to put my punctuation outside of double quotes D:
 
@Laurel I know, I know. That one bothers me the most. I hate putting the punctuation inside the quotes at the end of a sentence. But if I put it outside the quotes I feel I'm betraying my country in some small way.
 
@Robusto Over-the-counter!
 
7:29 PM
@jlliagre Well, I don't think you can get a prescription for that.
 
@Robusto That was tricky. "Over-the-counter" translates to de gré à gré :-)
 
@jlliagre Ah. While I can understand much of written French, you will pardon me if the occasional cross-lingual pun escapes me.
And I would have had to look up de gré à gré.
 
@Robusto Tout est pardonné !
 
While gris-gris is from an African word, the reason it has a French-ish spelling is because the voodoo cults here were situated in French-speaking Haiti and Louisiana.
@jlliagre Ç'est ne fait rien.
Forgot the cedilla.
 
We write grigri nowadays.
 
7:39 PM
How modern!
 
@Robusto Hmm, even wronger...
 
@jlliagre I can't win.
 
What did you mean?
 
@jlliagre I meant "It doesn't do anything" meaning "no problem"?
 
Ça ne fait rien translates "It doesn't do anything" but an usual answer to Tout est pardonné is just Merci while Pas de problème if fine for "no problem".
 
7:50 PM
@jlliagre Thank you.
 
Pas de problème.
 
Pas de problème, mais plus de café !
Or is it caffé?
I do need more coffee.
 
Caffè is Italian.
 
I knew it was something.
Lotsa words rattling around in the old brain.
 
Tout est pardonné ! was a quote.
 
7:54 PM
All is forgiven?
Who made that famous?
 
Charlie.
 
Not Charlie Hebdo, certainly?
 
That one, precisely.
 
Seriously?
 
These guys have a strong sense of humour, even dead.
 
7:58 PM
I wouldn't forgive the terrorists.
Is there anyone with a thinner skin than a terrorist with an AK-47?
 
@Robusto That was de l'humour au second degré.
 
This news anchor was flogging the invited guests, some officials from can't-care-where yesterday, and I got interested. "Wow, someone in 2023 Iranian state TV with a backbone!" Turns out he was echoing concerns about why some restaurants or bakeries don't close shop until iftar.
 
So he was a kind of figurehead for politicians to act in a play with?
 
It's just really grating, you know. The Iranian theocracy usually doesn't have the power or control to be totalitarian, unless these pious types help them
@Cerberus we're going nowhere, and fast
And I worry about the chaos that will ensue. Russia and China won't just allow a government that's friendlier to the west in their backdoor
 
8:13 PM
@M.A.R. And where is nowhere, you think?
 
@M.A.R. What is iftar?
 
Do you really think a revolution is likely, in the nearish future?
@Robusto Nightly meal celebrating the end of daily fasting during Ramadan.
With an i.
 
Ah.
 
@Robusto iftar is the meal you have in the evening after fasting time is over
 
@Cerberus Yeah, typo.
 
8:14 PM
@Cerberus sooner than I'd hoped. Sooner than prospects for any meaningful compromise
 
You really think so?
But the recent attempt was put down?
Without even using the full force of the Revolutionary Guard?
 
Sure. These recent protests had more supporters, of course still disorganized, but what was notable, as I've probably said before, was the lack of any red lines. They didn't worry about offending the Supreme leader's followers, or religious people in general.
@Cerberus you could have said this about the protests in 1979 right up until they couldn't be put down, which was 10 days before victory
@Robusto 'kaftar' in Farsi is "hyena", and a common insult to throw at people, something like "bastard".
So I was confused a bit
 
@M.A.R. Fair enough.
@M.A.R. Hmm you don't think the RG is stronger and more loyal to the leadership than whatever the Shah had?
 
They burned Qurans, well at least a few of them did, again, being disorganized and all, and most of the slogans were vulgar insults at the supreme leader. The supporters too jaded to respond in kind, as they like to do.
 
I, too, can see that the frequency and intensity seem to have increased recently.
 
8:21 PM
This time, notable people, celebrities, including actors abroad and even domestic didn't denounce the protests, some even showed what could be interpreted as support.
 
But whatever happened to the green revolution? Wasn't that even larger?
It was probably less radical, though?
 
Less radical, exactly. The supreme leader was a red line. If he falls, for most of the supporters of the regime, the regime has fallen.
Anyway my shift in perspective comes mostly because I notice how much weaker the support for the regime has been. Less vocal, and fighting among themselves, thanks to Telegram, which has allowed them to voice their stupid ideas and call each other heretics or such as they are wont to do
Seven or eight years ago almost every food-related shop would be closed during the day in Ramadan. Nowadays half of them are open.
 
@M.A.R. Yeah, sorry, a slip of the finger sometimes triggers weirdness.
 
Even if it's half a dozen people yelling, in the absence of a response, they could seem powerful enough.
So it could become like the early days of the revolution. Commies, Islamists, pro-American groups, all creating little gangs and vying for power
@Cerberus once the system stops seeming stable, loyalties, especially in corrupt institutions, will falter. One could argue everyone was loyal to Shah until 1978. But enough people killed and soldiers will end up having injured or dead relatives or relatives of friends. I do think RG is much more corrupt than some portrayals in Western media that make them look like Wagner with beards
 
8:36 PM
@M.A.R. Ohh very interesting, I didn't know that.
@M.A.R. Haha very nice characterisation.
Though I have no idea how corrupt Wagner is.
I thought the RG basically is corruption, except well organised internally.
So you don't think it has strong command structures that will cling to the status quo and protect the government, in order to keep their huge profits from the state secure?
 
@Cerberus a few will stay to the end. Rumors are most have ready visas and such for themselves and their families. What's certain is it is their sons that drive Porsches and Lamborghinis in the streets of Tehran, post near-nude stories on Instagram, and have huge birthdays. They'd stay as long as the system looks to be in control.
This is of course not unlike Shah's military commanders and Savak leaders. Of course I don't have any stats on anything
 
@M.A.R. Is that before or after iftar?
 
@M.A.R. They won't help the government to stay in control in order to protect their own siphoning off the government?
 
What will happen is that people will have a lot of soft power with diminishing non-violent resistance from the pro-regime elements. They can beat up and kill protesters but the people dominating the debates everywhere but the official channels will be disgruntled. Then Khamenei will die off, and while it's been much easier to deify a leader of 30 years, the newer supreme leader will inevitably have even less support.
@Mitch bakeries would open a couple of hours before iftar so people can buy bread. Everywhere else, confectionery shops, restaurants, etc. would open up half an hour after iftar
It's bad for those business when it's a 17h-fasting day in the middle of summer. Can't just open up from 9 to 11 p.m. but they had to
 
@M.A.R. I'm not sure I understood the first sentence.
But, yeah, it would also seem to me that the position of the régime is becoming weaker, not stronger.
 
8:51 PM
@Cerberus sure they will. There would be blood, and Daniel Day Lewis
@Cerberus it used to be a very lonely feeling to be a supporter for the regime. Now it's lonely if you tell people you're religious
Things like that are impossible to suppress unless you're an Uighur in a concentration camp, and even then I'm not sure.
 
@M.A.R. Right, but you don't think they would help the government more than the Shah's (para)military did him?
@M.A.R. Ehh not sure I follow.
 
And something about Islam, it's not like other religions when you I assume just mutter a prayer or two every once in a while and go on with your business. You have the basic default prayer package taking up around an hour of your time every day, divided into three or five segments, and requiring you to wake up at 5 a.m. It's designed to keep you faithful, but if you just doubt it a bit you'd eventually quit.
 
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