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@tchrist good point, but he was totally a reality show contestant

@Robusto Well they were doing shit people actually do. Which is why the Greek mythology is so much more compelling than this whole Christianity nonsense.

But Disney!

> For example, did you know that Amaterasu, the sun goddess, fell out with Tsukuyomi, the moon god, after Tsukuyomi got grossed out by the goddess of food literally pulling a feast out of her arse? That's not just interesting; that's pretty fucking relatable, more so than that "loaves and fishes" bullshit.

@RegDwigнt Yeah, the Japanese shit is really weird as well.

The Japanese are not only weirder than we imagine, but weirder than we can imagine. (We being Westerners with Western minds.)

2:07 AM

Well all folk mythology I am at all familiar with is fucking gross.

Look no further than the Grimm tales.

Or the Russian tales.

The aztec fairy tales were all bunnies and kitty cats

I mean, come on. An old hag that flies on a broom, lives in a hut that walks around on chicken legs, and abducts children to eat them?

beatrix potter and the aztec heart rippers

The Uzbek and Kazakh and African tales are all like about killing jaguars by crashing their bollocks with your bare hand.

And that's what you read to children before bedtime.

German fairy tales are definitely repellent. What a horrible imagination to live in.

2:11 AM

It's the imagination of Bach and Beethoven and Mozart. Leck mich im Arsch.

they were just making up these awful stories to punk the Grimm brothers

And Wagner.

and that other guy

who's german

Six fucking hours of Night on Bald Mountain. And then another six and another.

Mussorgsky meanwhile had to be modest.

it really picks up in hour 5

2:14 AM

@RegDwigнt But Bach and Beethoven did not deal in fairy tales. And you may keep your Arsch to yourself, tyvm.

@Mitch Yeah like Final Fantasy X.

I don't like dreams that go wrong.

@Robusto yeah my point. Imagine Bach writing not sacred music, but one Valkyrie Ride after another.

As to keeping his Arsch to himself, I do hope that's what Mozart's cousine replied. (Though from all we know she was more like I don't mind if I do and fucked him.)

It is notable that even to a German, it's a rather unpleasant picture. They say am Arsch. As in, the buttocks. But for Mozart it had to be im Arsch. As in, the anus.

What a jolly fella.

Good thing he stopped at Jupiter and didn't get to Uranus.

2:31 AM

I keep Myanus to myself. Always.

2:49 AM

@Robusto Yes, the Egyptians also did that.

It's boustrophedon, as in Reg's starred message.

Well, I starred it when he posted it.

@Mitch ...who were sacrificed alive

3:44 AM

Tim

Do any of you have access to an ACM book?

doi.org/10.1145/3335772

Bohemian relativist

4:05 AM

how nice to have a confidant!

Bohemian relativist

4:56 AM

What a hermetic world!

6:49 AM

> Following state elections in 1898, white supremacists moved into the US port of Wilmington, North Carolina, then the largest city in the state. They destroyed black-owned businesses, murdered black residents, and forced the elected local government - a coalition of white and black politicians - to resign en masse.

bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55648011

7:10 AM

Word of the day: atresia ( from Ancient Greek ἀ- (a-, “not, without”) and τρῆσις (trêsis, “perforation”)

8:18 AM

Lucy Wills

Lucy Wills, LRCP (10 May 1888 – 26 April 1964) was an English haematologist and physician researcher. She conducted research in India in the late 1920s and early 1930s on macrocytic anaemia of pregnancy, a disease which is characterized by enlarged red blood cells and is life-threatening.Pregnant women in the tropics with inadequate diets are particularly susceptible. Wills discovered a nutritional factor in yeast that both prevents and cures this disorder. This component, the so-called 'Wills Factor', was subsequently shown to be folate, the naturally occurring form of folic acid. == Early... ==

Her research led to the discovery of folates' role in metabolism

And there is no Russian article in Wikipedia about her.

I should create one.

9:12 AM

I'm listening to a book which says that Jesus Christ never said he was god.

Bart D. Erhman "How Jesus Became God"

> A master explainer of Christian history, texts, and traditions, Ehrman reveals how an apocalyptic prophet from the backwaters of rural Galilee crucified for crimes against the state came to be thought of as equal with the one God Almighty, Creator of all things. But how did he move from being a Jewish prophet to being God?

Bart D. Ehrman

Bart Denton Ehrman (; born October 5, 1955) is an American New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism of the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the origins and development of early Christianity. He has written and edited 30 books, including three college textbooks. He has also authored six New York Times bestsellers. He is currently the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. == Early life == Ehrman grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, and attended Lawrence High School, where he was on the state champion debate team in...

I don't know whether this is true.

> He remained a liberal Christian for 15 years, but later became an agnostic atheist after struggling with the philosophical problems of evil and suffering.

The book is interesting.

12:03 PM

Took a photo of kids on skis during my run

I was not wearing glasses and so did not see the small kid looking at me.

12:45 PM

The offical twitter account of the Moscow Vnukovo airport compared the plane that carries Alexey Navalny home to fascist planes that flew towards Moscow in 1941.

12:58 PM

Wow, there's a curious mountain-enclosed valley in China, that green space to the north-east of the shore

1:26 PM

Word of the evening: muntin

/ˈmʌntɪn/

RAWOKATO

1:42 PM

Hey

What's new here?

1:57 PM

> Lichtenberg, an atheist, satirized religion saying "I thank the Lord a thousand times for having made me become an atheist."

2:16 PM

Apr 24 '12 at 13:59, by Robusto

I thank God that he made me an atheist.

And I never heard of Lichtenberg. ^_^

Fiat-Chrysler is merging with Peugeot to create the worst automobile manufacturer in the world.

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yeah, two lemons don't make lemonade

2:37 PM

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Tim

There is a phenomenon that puzzles me. I was wondering if someone knows about it

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^that puzzles me

In today's world!!!

3:19 PM

@Cerberus: I remembered! ^

1. Ingredients in saucepan sans water 2. Ingredients with water, covered 3. Oatmeal just after cooking 4. Oatmeal in bowl. 5. Ready to eat with a pat of butter and a little honey

That batch (62.5 ml of oats) yielded two servings, one for me and one for my wife.

You can't wolf that down the way you would ordinary oatmeal. You have to chew it for real, and it's not slimy at all.

4:39 PM

Guys, some aspects of these conversations may make folks uncomfortable. Could we please tone it down a little?

5

Not the last statement; the last page's.

@M.A.R. Your notes are lies

@tchrist the butt stuff or the education part?

or the oatmeal recipe?

I missed the food talk yesterday. Can we do that again?

@tchrist I was expecting some provocation, playing my cards

back in a sec...getting food to eat about while we talk about it.

@Mitch filthy men; mandatory conscription into the killing machine

@Mitch No they're the truth. I wrote so.

4:49 PM

@M.A.R. oh

sorry

my mistake

@tchrist China has an entirely volunteer army

Oh

That's the conversation you were trying to avoid

Hey how about those dumplings?

the dumplings are basically bread, but they sop up the tasty gravy from the meat

Bohemian relativist

in island China, military service is mandatory for men over age 18 but will be abolished soon.

@Bohemianrelativist I hope they're not forced to be pregnant

@Robusto Wow!

The whole sequence.

I could eat that!

Is that butter?

Into the Night (TV series)

5:10 PM

I have eaten some cottage cheese topped with sour cream and granate seeds

It looked very nice

Into the Night is a Belgian apocalyptic sci-fi drama thriller streaming television series created by Jason George, inspired by the 2015 Polish science fiction novel The Old Axolotl by Jacek Dukaj. The series premiered on Netflix on May 1, 2020. It is Netflix's first Belgian original series. On July 1, 2020, the series was renewed by Netflix for a second season. == Premise == The series follows a group of people who are hijacked while on board a red-eye flight from Brussels. Terenzio (Stefano Cassetti), the hijacker, was an Italian NATO soldier. He forces his way onto the commercial aircraft and...

Looks like a captivating plot

5:36 PM

At the last moment, the plane with Alexey Navalny was rerouted to an airport 80 km away from the intended one, and the main road out of the initial airport has just been closed.

Putin is such an asshole.

No wonder Trump liked him.

These two boots are a pair, as the Russian saying goes. Два сапога пара.

I wonder whether he will be arrested.

@Cerberus I'm 99% sure he will be arrested. What else is left to do?

His brother has already spent 3.5 years in penal colony under trumped-up charges.

The usual practice. Khodorkovsky's close friend is still in prison, for instance.

Khodorkovsky is a businessman who had a huge oil and gas company and wanted to take part in politics.

His company was confiscated, he spend several years in colony, and is now living abroad.

Putin's close friend is now Chairman of the stolen company.

Sechin, Putin's friend-turned-billionaire

He managed to turn the company from profit to loss.

But no problem, Russia's stage budget is used to patch up the losses.

I remember Yukos.

6:42 PM

@CowperKettle The Goblin king in Peter Jackson's The Hobbit

Let's play SWR Jeopardy! If these are SWR answers, what's the question?

> 86ed
axed
shed
fired
nixed
slain
beaten
booted
buried
canned
dumped
exiled
jilted
routed
sacked
shamed
undone
abjured
chucked
deposed
ditched
ejected
quelled
shelved
shunned
spurned
banished
defeated
disowned
expelled
forsaken
forsworn
kiboshed
rejected
scrapped
unlanded
unseated
abandoned
cashiered
defrocked
disavowed
disbarred
discarded
dismissed
jettisoned
repudiated

7:01 PM

coughs sneezes

Sorry, that wasn't Corona.

Just SWR allergy.

7:30 PM

The question is: What’s the opposite of emeritus?

Xanne

9:25 PM

@tchrist What is the cancel culture?

9:53 PM

@Cerberus Yes. I eat it with a pat of butter and a drizzle of honey. (Or maple syrup, which I like better.)

@tchrist: I used to buy all my maple syrup in Vermont. Around here all I can get is Grade A Dark Amber, which is like the maple syrup version of used motor oil. In Vermont you get Grade A Golden, which is light and sweet, the color of honey but fragrant and delicious.

@Robusto You might have to get the fancier, more varied version from Whole Foods.

Yeah, Whole Foods is too far away from me, so I don't get there too often.

@Cerberus: I usually add some cinnamon as well. Didn't today.

@tchrist Thank you. Seriously.

10:12 PM

They're just everywhere here. Of the two in Boulder, one is about a mile from me and the other, which is more like three miles away, is the national flagship. But I think you have at least one that does delivery there.

I'm in the two-hour delivery zone.

2001: A Garden of Personal Mirrors was rejected for the film 2001: A Space Odyssey, and apparently with good reason.

@CowperKettle Word.

Conrado

My last post on the food thread, and I'll stop:

Supper imgur.com/gallery/BIvH5Tt

Sopaipillas, fried bread with pumpkin for color.

Pebre cuchareado, a tomato salad with onions and cilantro

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10:33 PM

@Conrado How that appetesces me! :)

I think pico de gallo is almost your salad there, just with a few more bits to pique at you.

Pico de gallo

Pico de gallo (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈpiko ðe ˈgaʎo], lit. 'beak of rooster'), also called salsa fresca and salsa cruda, is a type of salsa commonly used in Mexican cuisine. It is traditionally made from chopped tomato, onion, serrano peppers (jalapeños or habaneros may be used as alternatives), with salt, lime juice, and cilantro. Pico de gallo can be used in much the same way as other Mexican liquid salsas. Because it contains less liquid, it also can be used as a main ingredient in dishes such as tacos and fajitas. The tomato-based variety is widely known as salsa picada (minced/chopped sauce...

So yeah, pretty much.

"Mexicans put lime and chiles in everything". :)

Not really, but you know.

Re: the pinned message, I apologize for the inconvenience my responses might have caused.

@M.A.R. Fear not, for even incontinence is forgivable.

Silly autocomplete.

I meant inconfidence.

Incandescence

> mac(tchrist)% oed incon | grep 'nce '
› in conference ← conference
inˈconfidence [n.]
incongruence [n.]
› in (all) conscience, of (all) conscience ← conscience
inconscience ← inconscient
› in consequence, in consequence of ← consequence
inconsequence [n.]
† inconˈsiderance [n.]
inconsistence [n.]
inconsonance [n.]
› in consonance with ← consonance
† inˈconstance [n.]
incontinence [n.]
› incontinence of urine ← incontinence
› in continuance ← continuance
inconvenience [n.]
inconvenience [v.]

There's this word game I used to play several years ago, I was feeling a bit nostalgic and I'm playing it again on my phone.

Wordament, from Microsoft

Pretty fun

10:48 PM

@M.A.R. It wasn't you.

How I Designed a Free Music Font for 5 Million Musicians (MuseScore 3.6)

Finally found the time to watch Tantacrul's latest video.

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Very interesting. @tchrist @Rob

11:21 PM

@RegDwigнt Give me ten reps on mordents and we’ll call it a day.

11:55 PM

@Tim Cease all discussion of excrement in this chat. Not only has it no place here, you have been getting on people’s nerves per the pinned message on the starboard. They find it upsetting and offensive.

Tim

I get it. "people" means you (singular)