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9:00 PM
And Barnum & Bailey's circus.
 
@Robusto curtsies
Or should I tip my hat
 
The songless falcon cries as she plunges from blindingly intense sun.
Bungled bangles.
unclean uncle
Gildor Inglorion.
Ñoldorin elves.
Unglued songs sung lewd.
> The rolling seven-day average for daily new cases in the United States reached a record high for the 27th day in a row, climbing to 48,606 on Sunday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn said it was “too early to tell” whether the Republican National Convention could be held safely in Jacksonville, Fla., next month.
Sucker bet, that one.
 
9:24 PM
@tchrist ohhhhh.... alarmingly is without the hard g
 
@tchrist nice
Jangling jungles of bungled bangles
@Mitch Don't make Rob mad.
 
@Færd those al have hard g for me
@Færd I'll risk it... FOR SCIENCE!
 
Haha
 
hahahah
 
@Mitch Some people pronounce that with a pure n
no trace of g at all
Do you too?
 
9:27 PM
you mean no /ŋ/
 
Yes
 
that's g-dropping
or rather ŋ -> n
 
> Just hear those sleigh bells jingling
ring-ting-tingling too
Come on it's lovely weather
For a sleigh ride together with you.
 
@Mitch I wondered if you drop it.
 
@Færd like it's hot
 
9:28 PM
Because it's very hard to say that without a hard g
 
wait... -not- like it's hot.
 
Or so it seems to me
 
sometimes I do sometime not.
 
@Robusto Nice!
 
@Færd I have no problem, it's very natural, also to splice commas
 
9:29 PM
Not exactly music for July, but ...
 
@Robusto ANYTHIN GOES!
 
That's a different song.
 
@Mitch I'd like to hear you say it.
Shout as loudly as you can. I'm too far away.
 
@Færd That sounds like a challenge
@Færd Done.
uh oh
scared the crap out of some chipmunks
 
I heard something. Not sure if it was you.
 
9:31 PM
@Færd in fact...
I have a hard time...
 
doing...?
 
saying it /...ŋglij/
i say /...ŋlij/
@Færd Oh, it was me.
 
@Mitch Even if you say it slowly?
 
@Færd Yes.
Bingly
 
Maybe you're right.
 
9:34 PM
= /biŋlij/
but singly' = /siŋglij/ because it comes from single
present participles '...ing' /...ijŋ/ don't have a hard g at the end
 
I'm not saying it's a hardcore g. Just that it's not altogether nasal like ŋ is.
Something happens with the back of the tongue. But maybe I'm wrong.
 
It's very annoying to hear someone say 'singing' as /siŋgijŋ/
 
(speaking): /siŋgijŋ/
 
Different kettle of fish
(singing:) /siŋgijŋ/ /siŋgijŋ/ /siŋgijŋ/
 
Sure every thing is close back there and any generation now it could slip all one way or the other. But hey finger/singer are not the same
 
Okay gotta go wrap up the day before sleep.
Talk to y'all later
 
singing in the rain is one of the best movies ever.
even if it is silly.
 
@Færd cya
@Mitch Something wrong with silly?
 
@Robusto comedies tend not to be considered 'best ever'
like groundhog's day.
 
@Mitch sputters But ... Life of Brian?
 
9:40 PM
I feel like that should be top 100. maybe not top ten but definitely top 100
 
Number one with a fucking bullet.
Funniest. Movie. Ever.
 
@Robusto that seems pretty serious.
 
I don't go in for half measures.
 
@Robusto remind me not to offer you half a bullet
 
How dare you?
 
9:41 PM
tugs at fingers of glove
removes glove slowly
brrr
 
Notice, though, that Gene Kelly never once pronounces the terminal /g/ in "Singing in the Rain." He always says "singin."
 
_puts gloves back on
@Robusto g-dropper
 
That is a jaw-dropping comment.
 
jaw-dropping leads to covid transmission...
....comrade!
 
9:44 PM
fuck that guy
 
And the whores he rode in on.
 
which reminds me, turtles are people too. the other day I noticed one by the side of the road and stopped and turned it around.
what the hell turtles!
What is it about open roads that makes you think you can cross them safely!
 
But if it was Mitch McConnell I assume you'd have let him venture forth?
 
It will not turn out well for you.
Holy crap, have you seen the devastation of chipmunks?
and those guys are insane
Squirrels on speed
 
Out here chipmunks are called "mini-bears."
 
9:46 PM
@Robusto I'd feel bad for his family
@Robusto a mini-bear sounds pretty big.
 
@Mitch Not a mini-bar, a mini-bear.
 
still sounds pretty big.
as in mot chipmunk sized
maybe raccoon sized.
 
They will lay waste to any food you don't keep locked up in a secure container.
 
those guys can get pretty chunky
@Robusto chipmunks?
 
Yes.
 
9:49 PM
huh.
I've only ever experienced raccoons that way.
 
On a campout I saw one eat an entire Nature's Valley granola bar in about four bites.
 
that's about how big the chipmunk is already
 
And he had to open the foil first.
 
but with expanding cheek pockets...
 
He just bit through the foil. Looked like a chainsaw going through a log.
 
9:50 PM
@Robusto Oh yeah. chipmunk tooth fillings...don't wanna bit down on that.
like butter
 
Also, they travel in teams. You selcom see one without it's two or three.
seldom*
 
10:09 PM
@Robusto Nobody pronounces the "terminal g" in singing. That's because there isn't one. Not one in sing either. You've confused /ng/ with /ŋ/.
Fangirl move, that.
 
@tchrist Wevs. My point is that he pronounces it "singing"—like a Hollywood star singing that song should.
 
It matters.
Fan-girls and fang-earls are different.
 
@tchrist Wevs. My point is that he pronounces it "singin"—like a Hollywood star singing that song should.
 
It's like how there's no "n" in un gato, but in reverse. :)
 
Geezis, I keep typing things that are 180° opposite of what I'm trying to.
And then it's too late to delete.
 
10:13 PM
Fingin in the rain.
 
Fingin in the wain.
Or in the wainscoting.
@tchrist: But anyway, to quote Hamlet: "How absolute the knave is! We must speak by the card, or equivocation will undo us."
 
You can't talk about sounds using ˈɪŋlɪʃ spelling
 
I can do anything I like. I'm retired.
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Happens when you get a flat.
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A: "English" pronounced as /ˈɪŋlɪʃ/ ING-LISH

herissonIn Old English, [ŋ] was always followed by either [k] or [g]. Modern English words that end in [ŋ] without [g], like sing, show the result of a change of word-final [ŋg] to [ŋ] (this change did not occur to completion in all dialects). Word-internal [ŋg] mostly remained (as in finger, anger), but...

 

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