@Cascabel OK. I read the question that bothers you about mentally destroyed, etc. There's a LOT of stuff going on here. I'm not sure what the deal is, but it's really something we can't fix . . .

@Cerberus It could have been - I think it was near The Hague actually

@Robusto they say of the Acropolis where the Parthenon is...

@marcellothearcane The big flower auction of Aalsmeer is between The Hague and Amsterdam, but much closer to Amsterdam.

@Cerberus Could well have been, in that case

@user400188 see the questions about brackets.

You should normally use a full stop, in my opinion.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, repeated url at end of long post, username similar to website in answer (159): Is "I" an alphabet or a letter? by Bharat Defencekavach on english.SE

@user400188 Ah Marcello has said, I'm afraid that full stop is necessary there.

@DavidM Why do you assume disagreement is trolling?

I mean, don't get me wrong, people have messed up reasons for up- and downvoting all the time

The point is that the aggregate score would/should end up being higher for better quality posts

@M.A.R. downvoting without a comment on an otherwise accepted and objectively correct post is trolling.

Downvoting should be for source-less poorly reasoned crap. Not for "Eh, not my answer."

@M.A.R. it's true. It's just annoying to see that -2 when you know it's the correct answer.

Hi.

Conversationally to conversation is what to listening? Conversationally fluent in English ...

@Gigili Oh. so you want to say 'fluent in listening ability'?

Genau.

To be literal it would be 'aurally'. But that sounds weird there "I am aurally fluent in English". But it might be weird because it is not common to really talk about knowing a language that way (even though it might be a useful distinction)

Saying it like that sort of implies that one is not conversationally fluent and that is often not a desired state.

Oh? Interesting.

@Mitch Do you mean it is better to leave it out? I was trying to add that to my resume for my German language skills!

I am nowhere near knowledgeable to answer. I don't hire people for foreign language abilities.

But the levels in language proficiency [CEFRL]( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…) mention all four (reading/writing/listening/speaking).

@Gigili But if I were writing my resume where I'd want to state language ability... I think I'd just say 'proficient' or 'intermediate' or 'beginner' or something like that to say that I have experience with the language but am not fluent.

@Mitch What do you hire people for?

I'm not sure about 'proficient'

nobody at the moment, but if I were it'd be software or data science associated.

Makes sense.

Have you seen other resumes with languages listed?

What do they do in Farsi?

I've seen one that mentioned "Conversationally fluent" for two languages, and I decided to add a similar phrase to my resume but failed.

@Mitch I have no idea.

Are you sending this to a primarily English language business? And do they specifically need other language ability? Or is it more of a bonus to have familiarity with other languages?

German language ability is a bonus.

I think the word used in the US for 'not exactly fluent but can get by' is 'proficient'. Distinguishing between understanding ability vs speaking ability, while very important by itself, and also very important for people doing foreign language work, is often just not spelled out. Maybe it's me being in the US where there's only one language that anybody cares about (well, Spanish too in some areas).

I'd just say 'fluent in English, proficient in German' or something similar.

so they don't expect you to give a presentation to German business partners, but can attend a meeting with them (that's is primarily English).

But that's just my uninformed opinion.

That was helpful, thank you.

no problem. don't rely on my opinion, get another voice to corroborate or contradict.

But more importantly:

qwantz.com/index.php?comic=3509

Hahaha

Wait, That's Not Funny.

WTNF.

It's funny because the dinosaur is talking

And dinosaurs can't talk

because they're all dead

haha that's funny

stupid dead dinosaurs

@CowperKettle that's a cowperteapot, not a cowperkettle.