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12:00 AM
There are more than three candidates who would likely do a good job.
That always makes voting harder.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 That sounds unpleasant, actually. I only have a BM live stream when I'm ill.
 
@Robusto Eat bugs.
 
12:31 AM
This interview sentence seems a bit dodgy to me. Opinions?
> Who were you, or would you be nervous to meet?
Maybe it would be better as two sentences, or as two separate phrases?
 
Scary interview question. :)
 
12:44 AM
@FaheemMitha Or as a different thought altogether.
 
@Robusto Maybe, but my question was just about the sentence structure.
@tchrist For choir members of the Sixteen, if you are wondering.
That's the English classical music group, the Sixteen.
And I don't see why it is scary.
 
@tchrist I agree.
@FaheemMitha Who were you—or would you be—nervous to meet?
But it is still a meh sentence.
There definitely needs to be a mark of punctuation after be.
 
@FaheemMitha You've asked people to reveal their fears.
 
@Cerberus Dunno. Lots of people, probably. Criminals and stuff.
@tchrist It was in a musical context. :-)
 
Hah.
 
12:57 AM
I think you misunderstand the question. A better way of phrasing it would be, who are the people you admire most.
It's a badly phrased question, and not really a good question either.
@Cerberus So, what would you replace it with?
 
Just remove the whole "were" bit?
Or remove the whole question.
 
So, "Who would you be nervous to meet?"
 
Who have you been, or would you be, nervous to meet?
 
If one was to restructure it, would two sentences be better? I'm inclined to think so.
@Robusto Better, but why not "Who have you been, or who would you be, nervous to meet?"
 
Mengele. Nero.
Saaatan.
 
1:00 AM
@tchrist Niro?
 
@FaheemMitha The parallelism is inefficient in that version.
 
@Robusto Efficiency isn't everything. It's more symmetrical.
Nero, perhaps?
 
Not Robert.
 
@tchrist Hmm?
 
Robert de.
 
1:01 AM
@tchrist Yes, I thought you probably didn't mean him. Though he is a bit scary.
 
There are a lot of monsters I'd be nervous to meet.
 
@FaheemMitha I disagree.
 
One is suspicious of people who are too good at playing psychos.
@Robusto Apparently.
 
It isn't a question I would welcome.
 
@tchrist Hmm. Well, like I said, it's poorly phrased.
I don't think the choir members thought they were being asked - who do you find scary?
I think one person answered Bach, for example.
And she definitely didn't find Bach scary.
 
 
3 hours later…
3:59 AM
This guy really is confused about how to use the word "neither": english.stackexchange.com/users/137567/majid
Look at the most recent questions.
 
Yep.
It becomes grammatical with the tiniest of changes: “I don’t like baseball. Neither do I like football or basketball.” — tchrist 41 secs ago
 
Either or, neither nor
:-)
iirc
 
It's not that simple.
Look at my quote.
 
Yes sir.
 
But yes, that could be nor.
The inversion seems to change it, at least for me.
The neither is not part of a neither . . . nor construction at all in that example.
It is the same as saying “Nor do I like football or basketball.”
Whether the first word is neither or nor does not matter there. It still applies to the verb not to the disjunctive direct object.
See what I mean?
It is the same as saying “I do not like football or basketball,” but pulls the negative out front and inverts.
The version “I don’t like football nor basketball” is not especially well-loved these days.
 
5:06 AM
Thanks for the explanation @tchrist
 
 
4 hours later…
9:20 AM
tunny on September 07, 2015

People learning English are often confused by the many ways in which it is possible to talk about future events. They are not helped by the fact that some writers (eg, Sinclair1) claim that the construction with will in front of the base form (bare infinitive) of the verb is the future tense, while others (eg, Quirk et al2) claim that there is no future tense in English. Learners who have read in one book (eg, Thomson and Martinet3) that the BE + going to form expresses the subject’s intention to perform a future action will wonder what intention is present in It’s going to rain. Some course b …

for some reason this didn't get sidebar'd
 
 
1 hour later…
10:50 AM
@MattE.Эллен I just pinned it and that seems to work fine.
 
@Robusto Sorry, I mean sidebared on the main site. like the SE blog posts do
 
Ohhh.
I think it would be better to quote it and pin that, though.
Better because it's readable.
 
Good article, btw.
Un buen articulo.
 
@Robusto How we will talk about future situations.
How we gonna talk about future situations
How are we talk about future situations
 
10:54 AM
@tchrist How we're talking about future situations.
@tchrist How are we talk about future pineapples?
 
@Robusto sadly, the author left EL&U
 
@MattE.Эллен Why?
 
in EL&U Blog, Nov 22 '14 at 20:12, by tunny
@MattЭллен. Glad you can use the article. Thanks for the offer but any problems I have are to do with my own perverse character. I am not cut out for this type of site. I am un-perverse enough to know that, if I can't fit in, then (1) I have to change (too late for that), (2) I try to change things here (an arrogant and trouble-making approach for a newbie) or (3) I slip quietly away while no harm has been done to anybody (my chosen course). Best wishes, tunny.
 
What problems did he have?
 
I don't know. he didn't discuss them
 
10:57 AM
I definitely can see how people might have problems here, however.
> It's the dismal tide.
 
He was last seen in March, by the looks of it
or May, even.
 
It still annoys me that such a flood of Germans came in and waxed wrathful about my assumption that mensch (or mensh) may be used in American English. It's a head-scratcher.
Nein! Das is ein deutsches Wort!
Can't immigration laws keep these people out of our English.
> my next week plan
Courtesy of the SC.
 
SC?
 
Subcontinent.
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Q: Can the 'and' be omitted like this?

박용현 Is the'pounced' right in this sentence? I think that 'pouncing' or 'to pounce' is right. Is it possible to think that 'and' is omitted in front of 'pounced'? Please, tell me the answer.

 
oogh
 
11:09 AM
Surely this is beneath our dignity.
 
He doesn't ask good questions.
But it will go to 100 for the kitty.
He doesn't accept answers.
 
Unless we stop it now.
I voted to close as ELL-bait.
 
ELL is not supposed to be a dumping ground.
Stuff gets closed there for GR or proofreading, too.
I like Mari-Lou am bothered by this user's failure to ever select an answer as having been helpful to him.
He has 49 undeleted questions, all unanswered.
 
I couldn't think of what to close it for, so I went to the catch-all: research (which mentions ELL).
 
So be it then.
 
11:13 AM
Down-voting sometimes helps as well.
 
I can't close-vote.
I tried to nibble at the fat end of the queue last night and ran out. As always.
 
0
Q: Why aren't beldam, beldame, and carline used anymore to refer to "old woman"?

JasonStackI was looking for a single-word equivalent for "old woman". Having entered the meaning in source language, Google Translate returned four words: beldam, beldame, carline, harridan. Of these four, only the latest had definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Why aren't these words used ...

Well let me tease you some more, then.
This is one of my least favorite question formulae: 'Why does "English" drop words?'
Bad English! Bad! You no drop word!
 
Linguistics?
 
Well, even there they would have a problem. The question attributes human motivations to language.
Anthropomorphic English
English didn't drop those words. People did. — Robusto 5 mins ago
 
English didn't drop those words. People did. — Robusto 7 mins ago
 
11:22 AM
jinx.
 
Damn, you're starting to sound like the NRA
jinx indeed
 
@terdon Let's not say things we can't take back.
Is there a question here? — Robusto 4 mins ago
0
Q: She quit her job

Steven YeoMary has been unhappy at work of late. Her superiors has been unfair to her after she has completed her tasks and obtained satisfactory reflections from the Managing Director. One day she made a firm decision. She quit her job.

And that's all we need to know about Mary. TYVM.
 
@terdon Funny. And right, too.
 
Precisely.
 
11:33 AM
I want to know how to select an answer for the question I posted. — 박용현 26 secs ago
I was right: he doesn't know how to select an answer.
Do we have a nice little animated demo of this?
 
@tchrist I suppose that is possible.
 
@tchrist No, we have this:
And this:
 
But we're always getting prompts to accept an answer.
 
735
Q: How does accepting an answer work?

jjnguy How does accepting an answer work? When should I do it? Why can't I accept my own answers right away? Which answer should I accept? For more information, see "What should I do when someone answers my question?" in the Help Center. Return to FAQ index

 
When i ask a question on a site where I have low rep, I always get prompted to accept an answer, with an explanation of how to do it.
 
11:37 AM
Yeah, I have a canned comment for that.
 
That's what I was wondering. Ok, here's how to do it from our Help Center: “Choose one answer that you believe is the best solution to your problem. To mark an answer as accepted, click on the check mark beside the answer to toggle it from greyed out to filled in. You may change which answer is accepted, or simply un-accept the answer, at any time.” More info at this FAQ on Accepting Answers: How does it work?. When you select an answer, you will gain +2 rep each time, and on ELU it will turn green. Good luck! — tchrist 2 mins ago
We'll see if that helps. It may.
He's also only voted once. Sigh.
Rome was not built in a day, but gosh.
He's not a troll, though.
 
11:57 AM
I have an idea. Let’s have all answers accepted by default, and take five votes to be unaccepted.
 
@RegDwigнt FIFO queue?
 
There Can Be Only One.
 
Well, they all could be accepted serially.
Last one wins.
That would encourage a lot of answers.
 
Hot Network Questions
 
We could have a daily lottery.
If your answer wins, it is automatically accepted. And deleted.
 
12:05 PM
Ease down, Shirley Jackson.
 
Don't call me Jackson.
 
Johnson, then.
 
Oh, no.
 
What do you need that for, Dude?
 
Abidance.
 
12:07 PM
Eight year olds, dude.
 
> I am voting to close this question because we are not a cut rate thesaurus.
That just might catch on.
 
Dunno. I might not be thesaurus, but I'm asaurus alright.
 
> I am voting to close this question because we are not answerable for the mistakes people make trying to write in English on the Internet.
 
@RegDwigнt You migrated a Perl question to ELL?
Except this is just reading dumbness.
Appositives.
 
12:19 PM
@Robusto that's not your decision to make. The Supreme Court has appointed you to answer for the mistakes people make trying to write in English on the Internet. Deal with it or die trying.
@tchrist what, you want me to migrate it to Photography instead?
 
You are not wrong per se.
perl.se before swin.ee
 
I bet the cast are unholy
 
That's an odd bet.
 
Off-castes.
 
12:23 PM
Cast-offs.
 
Shills.
 
@Robusto can't have a bet without odds
 
The lady's in the middle.
 
@MattE.Эллен How about evens? Like on a roulette wheel.
 
@Robusto even even odds are odds
 
12:26 PM
What are the odds of that?
@MattE.Эллен It has more symmetry if you say "Even odds are odds even."
 
Sigh, that's Learning Perl 2.4 Scalar Operators.
 
Unlearning Perl: Secular Operators.
 
Stoopid UAs.
 
@Robusto aye. I gave it my best!
 
United Americas?
 
12:27 PM
That's pisstests to you, you hemphead.
 
United Artists.
 
What a commie thing to say.
 
Urine Academy
 
No, you are.
 
Urine Assessment
 
12:29 PM
@MattE.Эллен Peeass testing.
Urinanalist.
 
You should see an antictologist about that.
 
-1
Q: AWOL - what's the potential meaning of it?

Yi TangI found a very difficulty prorblem For example, he's AWOL. What does this means?

It's a military term meaning absent without leave. The problem would be less difficult if you were to consult a dictionary. — Robusto 27 secs ago
 
Shoot them all. God will know his own.
 
And he wants to know what is the "potential" meaning of AWOL. Not what it means, but what it could mean.
 
12:32 PM
it's potential a misspelling of an owl
 
Oriental inscrutability.
For which one should see a urologist.
Not ELU.
 
How come no ethnic types are ever scrutable?
 
Testicular misalignment.
 
That's racist.
 
@Robusto a mind-boggling lack of phantasy on your part. He's asking for a potential meaning, and all you can come up with is the only meaning that it already has. You suck!
 
12:34 PM
@Robusto Only in nut-racing.
 
@RegDwigнt Jinx.
2 mins ago, by Robusto
And he wants to know what is the "potential" meaning of AWOL. Not what it means, but what it could mean.
 
Who reads your shit.
 
Oracles.
And Larry Ellison.
 
Here, have your phantasy coke.
 
Acerbic wanking only lachrymates.
 
12:35 PM
@Robusto so. You're saying Larry Ellison reads your shit twice?
Poor Larry.
 
@RegDwigнt At least twice. Every day. Because now he owns mysql.
 
Too much information.
I don't want to know which body part you've sold to whom.
 
You don't have to shy away from putting spaces after punctuation. Or from putting punctuation at the end of a piece of text. — Robusto 8 secs ago
 
Robusto's so active on the main site. Go Robusto.
 
We need a minder for after GMT. These are horrible.
 
12:38 PM
That's show business.
 
You got your 100k imaginary points for answers, go get your 100k imaginary points for comments.
They are even more imaginary!
 
Imagine it were otherwise.
 
14 hours ago, by Robusto
So I just got a notice that I have received the "access to site analytics" privilege. I just wonder of what possible use this might be to me.
 
One very useful use is finding out just how many complete idiots nice people you dodge day after day after day.
 
11.5 million served!
 
12:43 PM
You go ballistic after meeting up with just two, but now you know you could have met 150000 more.
If that ain't consolation, then airport has no meaning.
 
Saturday is an unpopular day at EL&U
 
Because on Saturday, everyone is preparing their questions to flood it on Sunday with.
"What is the meaning of what?"
 
"Is there a word that means 'what was I doing on Saturday?'?"
 
This is what Jupiter does on Saturn's day.
Also, any other day.
 
12:47 PM
"Why does flood look funny when i type it but fluid doesn't?"
 
Because moist.
 
And the ever-popular "Which is correct?"
 
Yeah. About that. How about we spice it up by rewording at least some of these as "which is wrong"?
Who is not phone?
 
A buckwheats hit ordered for them.
 
Ordered is French for red gold.
 
12:50 PM
I thought ordured was French for "shitty."
 
Only at the abbey.
 
No, that'd be murdered.
Sorry, merdered. My French spelling is béd.
 
bête.
 
I bête you will.
 
Why don't the French give in to their Gallic impulses and mark vowels with more than one diacritic?
 
12:52 PM
Holly shit, Bêtmon.
 
@RegDwigнt Noir.
 
@Robusto because raisons.
d'être, no less.
 
@Robusto They do. They use four.
 
Feb 3 '11 at 20:16, by Robusto
I used to want to open a little pub and call it Maison d'Etre
 
Tchrist prépares to argue semantiques.
 
12:53 PM
@tchrist At the same time?
 
Je grabe du corn popé.
 
Does the corn popé shit in the woods?
 
@Robusto One mark per vowel.
 
I shall tell you for 3000 centimes.
 
@tchrist See, that's just not even trying.
French slackers.
 
12:54 PM
@Robusto Very French.
Jinx.
Donnez-moi de la coke française !
 
C'est la.
 
Ah, quelle beauté.
Ah, quelle boutelle.
Oh to the là to the là.
 
Isn't it bouteille?
When in doubt, the more complicated spelling is preferred.
 
Ah, quelle boûtellaise !
 
Je m'appelle Robûto.
 
12:57 PM
Tête-à-tête
 
Sans aucun doute.
 
Tampoco.
 
La Rue buse to
 
Pourquoi-et-il que tu t'apelle? Tu t'as perdu?
 
> And Why it that thou call'd? You lost you?
 
12:58 PM
Mais ça serait aucune doute avec autre e, penses pas?
 
Google Translate, ladies and gentlemen
 
Sans aucun doute est une émission de télévision française diffusée sur TF1 en deuxième partie de soirée du 8 septembre 1994 au 18 décembre 2009 puis diffusée du 16 septembre 2013 au 30 mai 2014 sur TMC. Produite par Quai Sud Télévisions, elle est présentée par Julien Courbet jusqu'en mai 2008 puis par Christophe Moulin. L'animateur, grâce à une équipe de médiateurs, d'avocats et de journalistes intervenant en duplex sur le terrain, s'y donne la mission de venir en aide aux téléspectateurs confrontés à des soucis juridiques importants (administratifs, erreurs médicales, escroqueries, immobiliers...
Learn French, slackers.
 

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