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8:19 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: What do you call an unselfish action made with a selfish reason? by Robert Ruork on english.stackexchange.com
 
8:40 AM
Yeah, that does appear to be a racist site. And it sure looks like some form of racist, anti-Semitic propaganda. Which is why this whole question feels like trolling or a subtle attempt to put forth the message it is "innocently" asking about. — Robusto 19 hours ago
@Robusto funny they would use it on a white-suprematist, anti-Semitic site. Trotsky was a jew. Idiots.
Name's Bronstein. All them Russian anti-Semites were Jews. Unsurprisingly, perhaps.
But anyway, even pointing that out is a waste of energy. This whole thing is designed to troll. Who cares if it was Genghis Khan that coined the word "puppy"? Nobody, that's who. What does it change? Nothing, that's what. Trolling trolls are trolling.
 
8:55 AM
@Robusto Paul Signac would like a word with you.
Paint by number totally will blend, you just need to pump up the resolution.
 
 
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11:00 AM
@RegDwigнt Well, that's the point. They are painting the word "racist" as being the coinage of a Jew, which allows them in their minds to discredit the whole concept of racism.
 
 
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12:03 PM
@Robusto oh yeah, right, that makes sense.
For zero values of sense, that is.
 
I didn't say it made sense. I said that's what they think.
I notice some helpful mod deleted my comment on that post, btw.
 
But like half of my tirade stands anyway. The more important half. "Kitteh" was coined by Mengele. Now what. The Internet will still never cease or desist loving kittehs.
Not that it matters in the end, the whole thing will be deleted wholesale anyway.
 
12:34 PM
Hi all
I was wondering if you know if using word "paranoid" is in any way offensive? Let's say, telling "I think it's paranoid" in the context when somebody says something?
 
Offensive is in the eye of the beholder. No word at all is in any way offensive in and of itself. In fact no word in and of itself has any meaning at all. It only has the meaning we assign to it.
If you think "paranoid" is not offensive, then it is not offensive, to you.
If I say "good morning, sir" is offensive, then it is offensive, to me.
Know your audience. Are you speaking to patients of a mental hospital? To Her Majesty the Queen? To a bunch of hobos?
 
@RegDwigнt Hobos travel in pods, not bunches.
 
12:51 PM
I, hopod.
 
 
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2:05 PM
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Q: Nursing and How it is Changing

user124463Nursing is forever changing and higher education if not necessary will be the rule.

Well. There's that.
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: Changing is forever nursing [nordisch-by-nature]
 
 
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4:35 PM
If took is the past tense of take, then book must be the past tense of bake and cook the past tense of cake. Also look/lake, rook/rake and hook/hake.
 
@JohanLarsson lol
 
@Robusto And fake.
 
What the fook?
 
@JohanLarsson There are two universals of humor: seeing someone fall down and ...
 
nook used to be a past tense, but now it's naked
 
4:40 PM
Now we need audio of robots farting in church.
 
@Mitch poop/genitals?
 
Well this is a family show so just poop
 
the robots are a decent fit for a monday
 
At first I laughed so hard I cried. Then I thought, wow that could really have hurt. Then I laughed some more.
 
5:02 PM
@Mitch watching people who see someone fall down
 
When the robots achieve autonomy, they're going to hunt down everyone who laughed at that video.
 
Will those robots understand sarcasm, cuz I was kidding.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah, but by the time they do, we'll have died of old age :D
 
Then they will laugh at our miniscule expiration date
 
I would laugh at their having to deal with eternity. But I don't think they'd get the joke
 
5:05 PM
They kinda get a thrill out of looking into the abyss
 
I mean, Marvin lived for longer than the universe existed, and he was never happy about it.
 
@MattE.Эллен Such is the fate of immortals. Like the other guy who went around insulting everyone.
 
@terdon yeah!
what a total kneebiter
 
What was his name?
I love that character.
 
5:22 PM
@MattE.Эллен Yes! Thanks :)
 
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Q: Is this sentence correct

GuilleCan you let me and Nicole know how many skids will this be composed of?

IS IT CORRECT?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is just a folk etymology. The real derivation is from knackered.
 
ah. writes sternly-worded letter to OED
 
Greetings.
Wat news bring you?
 
We have no news of Wat or any of his family.
 
Wot wot?
How about Watt?
 
5:26 PM
Wat Tyler (died 15 June 1381) was a leader of the 1381 Peasants' Revolt in England. He marched a group of protesters from Canterbury to the capital to oppose the institution of a poll tax. While the brief rebellion enjoyed early success, Tyler was killed by officers loyal to King Richard II during negotiations at Smithfield, London. == Early lifeEdit == Knowledge of Wat Tyler's early life is limited. Born with the first name Walter, his original surname at birth is unknown, though 'Hugh' and 'Helier' have been suggested. It is thought that the name 'Tyler' comes from his occupation as a roof tiler...
 
That was how they dealt with Occupy in those days.
 
Hmm, now I wonder if poll tax was really about taxing everyone who had a head instead of everyone who tried to vote.
A poll tax (head tax or capitation tax, in U.S. English) is a tax of a portioned, fixed amount applied to an individual in accordance with the census (as opposed to a percentage of income). Head taxes were important sources of revenue for many governments from ancient times until the 19th century. There have been several famous (and infamous) cases of head taxes in history, notably in parts of the United States with the intent of disenfranchising poor people, including African Americans, Native Americans, and poor whites. The tax was marginal, but payment of the tax would be a prerequisite for...
Indeed, that is the circumstance involved.
Ultimately all words are synonyms of each other.
 
> From Middle English pol, polle ("scalp, pate"), probably from or else cognate with Middle Dutch pol, pōle, polle (“top, summit; head”),[1] from Proto-Germanic *pullaz (“round object, head, top”), from Proto-Indo-European *bolno-, *bōwl- (“orb, round object, bubble”), from Proto-Indo-European *bew- (“to blow, swell”).
Akin to Scots pow (“head, crown, skalp, skull”), Saterland Frisian pol (“round, full, brimming”), Low German polle (“head, tree-top, bulb”), Danish puld (“crown of a hat”), Swedish dialectal pull (“head”). Meaning "collection of votes" is first recorded 1625, from notion of "
Good to know.
 
Ayup.
 
Dutch pool is "pole"; pol is like knoll or sod.
 
5:33 PM
Your swimming pools must be different from ours, then.
 
More like sod, it's small.
Poel is "pool".
 
5:49 PM
Sod like dirt?
 
user116848
6:13 PM
@JohanLarsson funny!
 
user116848
6:23 PM
@Mitch I always feel like sharing something funny but I end up depressing people :-)
 
user116848
haha
 
user116848
But not always.
 
That's what you're concerned with and not the blasphemy of 'motherless weasels'? — Mitch 13 secs ago
@Arrowfar It's really hard to tell if people are silent because they find it funny but have nothing to add, or if they don't find it funny... and have nothing to add.
 
user116848
@Mitch Yes that is a very good point. I should be more positive like that!
 
6:52 PM
@Mitch Yes, but rather as in a round piece of soil with grass on it.
 
@Cerberus sod just means the layer of grass with the roots holding the soil together, or even just a thin layer of soil (2 inches). A knoll may have sod on it or be gravel. sod may be on a flat surface or curved like a knoll.
 
@Mitch I'm talking about sod in the countable sense.
 
People can still misuse it, but at least now the scalpel is better.
@Cerberus As in 'How many sods do you have on you?' ?
 
No, 'how many sods do you have on your head?'.
Or in your face.
 
@Mitch wow! I knew about wildcards, but some of those other ones are really great!
 
7:07 PM
Exactly! Well better than not having them. I didn't know about wildcards, or maybe I did for the main site but never used them.
What's cool is you can specify that the wildcard can be of a particular type, and it'll display the instances separately.
@Cerberus I have none on my head. And only... hey, I see what you did there, you almost got the number of sods on my face which I use as my PIN number.
Actually, 'sod' is totally a mass noun. it sounds goofy in plural. So I don't see what you mean a bout 'in the countable sense'
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Using the tags you can do a side by side comparison of a word in two corpora (well for the usual question of is X more popular in BrE than AmE). Kickass!
 
@Mitch Ah, I think the asterisk is fairly new?
 
Microsoft, apparently, has an ngram service that offers an API: weblm.research.microsoft.com
 
@Mitch It is less common, but not rare.
A few examples: google.nl/…
And countable doesn't mean you use it as a plural.
The countable sense is often with an indefinite article.
 
I dispute that those examples are of a countable noun sod
at least as relates to grass
 
7:20 PM
Then you are mistaken.
 
most of them use sod as an adjective or modifier of some other noun
 
There are plenty of countable examples in there.
 
one of them is the british insult
 
@Cerberus Those examples are not very good: many OCR problems, and miss-grammarizing. The closest one is "a sod and tree farm" which of course 'sod' is not countable there.
 
Are you looking at the same results?
 
7:22 PM
@Cerberus Yes, but those citations are ancient.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is irrelevant.
 
@Cerberus No, it's totally relevant.
 
Regardless, the OED often simply hasn't updated its quotation for many words (because why would they).
 
Lots of things were one way in the past, and are another way now.
 
@Cerberus Those latter ones all sound wrong. Since they are used, I'm guessing that usage is now archaic. If you're writing a 19th c treatise on landscaping then by all means feel free to use sod in the plural, but if you used that today, you'd make people's ears cross-eyed (which is not a very comfortable situation)
 
7:24 PM
"Wrong"?
 
Wrong.
 
Or perhaps you are just not well acquainted with this usage.
 
Nobody uses sod except as a mass noun, at least not in Canada.
 
That would be a more modest way of approaching the topic.
 
7:24 PM
Maybe in Canada in 1800.
But not now.
It's wrong.
 
@Cerberus Are you well acquainted with this usage outside of dictionary and google references?
 
I am not talking about your modern Canada.
 
@Cerberus Fine. I submit that, at some point in space-time, it is not wrong. At this point, it is.
 
@Mitch Yes, although sod is nowadays used more often in other ways, especially in expressions, and although I agree with the OED that a sod is typically rectangular, not round like a pol.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Or perhaps you should expand your vocabulary.
 
@Cerberus sod off.
 
7:26 PM
You rotting sod.
Nay, thou septic turf!
 
yeah, exactly. Saying "a sod" is like using "thou" in regular speech. It's simply wrong. It is not done.
 
Nonsense.
 
well, whatever. I only live in an English-speaking country. What do I know.
 
Just because you don't happen to use it in your circles.
You only live in an area.
 
I've lived in many areas.
 
7:28 PM
English has a lot of variety.
 
small farming villages, medium-sized towns, big cities, 3 provinces. None of them say "a sod".
 
> THE old priest, Peter Gilligan,
Was weary night and day;
For half his flock were in their beds,
Or under green sods lay.
Still doesn't sound familiar at all?
 
@Cerberus totally unfamiliar. effing Shakespeare
 
To lie under green sods is I thought a (now) famous expression or euphemism, even.
Yeats.
 
7:31 PM
Euphemism for what?
 
For lying in your grave.
 
For Lady Mondegreen?
 
Never heard it.
 
Yeats is admittedly old, but classic.
Haha, not Mondegreen.
 
Hey, great product idea: the premium sod-saving tool, Sod-o-miser!
 
7:32 PM
@Cerberus oh like pushing up daisies? feeding the worms. fertilizing.
 
Yup!
I am sure Robusto knows this line.
And/or the expression.
 
"Honey are you going to the garden store? Can you pick me up a sodomizer?"
 
"Aren't they expensive, dear?"
 
Now that one I am not familiar with...
So what word would you use to describe a roughly round piece of sod?
 
@Robusto "Don't get the new one. Second hand comes cheap"
@Cerberus "That's weird. Why would anyone cut their sod round?"
 
7:35 PM
Noöne would, it just happens!
When you hit it with a golf club.
Or when it somehow grows that way.
 
@Robusto "grumble grumble I fucking have to do every thing by hand myself"
 
When the soil around it is dug up or damaged in some way.
It is not a common word in Dutch.
 
@Cerberus That's not sod. That's a divot. If you got too much sod in it then you're in trouble.
 
Hmm that is close.
But it less specifically about the sod itself, it could be the hole.
Right?
 
Sod or turf is grass and the part of the soil beneath it held together by the roots, or a piece of thin material. In British English such material is more usually known as turf, and the word "sod" is limited mainly to agricultural senses (for example for turf when ploughed). == UsesEdit == Sod is typically used for lawns, golf courses, and sports stadiums around the world. In residential construction, it is sold to landscapers, home builders or home owners who use it to establish a lawn quickly and avoid soil erosion. Sod can be used to repair a small area of lawn, golf course, or athletic field...
 
7:38 PM
I have to admit I have rarely or never heard divot (at least I don't remember).
 
a divot is what happens when you hit the grass with your golf club and a chunk goes flying out.
That chunk is the "divot"
 
But that just doesn't cover pol well enough.
The petition has 2,000,000 signatures! stop-ttip.org
 
@Cerberus what's pol
 
That's what the whole discussion was about...
 
I still don't know!
try to define it instead of translating it
 
7:48 PM
A Dutch word meaning sod or divot or maybe even knoll.
It is a tiny bit vague.
 
sod = grass. divot = small chunk of grass. knoll = a small hill or mound.
 
A roundish sod!
 
divot should probably not be in that list. It's like you're discussing lakes, rivers, and teaspoons.
 
It has to be roundish, and hardish.
 
or, water, rivers, and teaspoons
 
7:50 PM
It can be a few cm, or probably many metres.
 
so, an area of grass that is circular-ish?
flat, or domed?
 
Flat or domed doesn't matter.
It will probably be grass or some other plant that covers the ground.
Maybe it could be just roots.
It has to stick out somehow.
It can be stuck to the ground (a natural outgrowth of sorts), or cut loose.
As I said, it is a bit vague.
 
@Cerberus No! That's what I was trying to tell you before. A knoll is not at all sod. A knoll is a small hill, a geographical artifact. Sod is a thick layer of grass and soil that you can hold in your hand or roll up and carry over your shoulder.
sod can cover a knoll (this means they are different things)
 
@Mitch Yes, but pol is too vague to be captured by a single word.
It can be a kind of knoll, I would venture.
A small one.
 
a divot refers to both the hole left in the ground and the piece of turf that was removed (leaving the hole)
 
7:58 PM
 
@Cerberus OK. So you were discussing Dutch all along? I can't say anything about that. About the English I can.
 
@Mitch Yes...
2 hours ago, by Cerberus
Dutch pool is "pole"; pol is like knoll or sod.
You replied to this.
So the round shape of the Proto-Germanic word has been preserved in English poll tax and Dutch pol, in a way.
 
@Cerberus That's a strange word, to me. "Dutch pol is like tractors, or diesel fuel"
Yeah tractors are kinda related, somehow, to diesel, but not really.
it's weird to have a word to mean both.
 
8:19 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, there it is.
 
Wow, it has 20 different senses in the WNT.
And all the ones I mentioned are in it!
 
crl
8:57 PM
@Robusto varying atmospheric pressure? :)
or your beard?
 
crl
9:08 PM
beer!Should I wear an helmet?
@crl Not at all
beer!Are you sure?
@crl That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
@crl All signs point to yes
 
@Cerberus who's the poor sod writing out (and judging) all those definitions?
 
crl
me gusta el pollo
 
@Mitch I don't know, they have worked on it for 150 years or so.
That particular article is apparently from 1934.
But who knows, perhaps it was edited and improved later.
Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal (Dutch: Dictionary of the Dutch language, commonly abbreviated WNT) is a dictionary of the Dutch language. The largest monolingual dictionary in the world, it contains over 430,000 entries for Dutch words from 1500 to 1921. The paper edition consists of 43 volumes (including three supplements), almost 50,000 pages. The dictionary was almost 150 years in the making; the first volume was published in 1864, and the final volume was presented to Albert II of Belgium and Beatrix of the Netherlands in 1998. == Background == The WNT follows the formula of the Oxford...
 
crl
9:31 PM
I wish we could join another mail to a mail
I mean not just a forwardTo, but replying to a mail and including another mail/discussion
 
Just mail two "letters"
 
crl
how? it's 2 discussions, each one with possibly 3, 4 or more replies. I'm in discussion A, and want to enclose discussion B, there's nothing in gmail for that
 
How about copy and paste them together?
 
crl
9:58 PM
Good idea but I had an enclosed pdf file in discussion B
 
I see.
 
Do you mean mail with some extra mail as an attachment?
 
That you could mail separately
 
crl
@Mitch yep
 
@Cerberus 150 years? That's a long time. Things have changed since then like sod is now only a count noun.
@crl the MS outlook interface allows that. I don't know of any others that allow it (or if they do how).
 
crl
10:10 PM
@Mitch Oh right Outlook isn't so bad then :), well I've googled it for gmail but they suggest to print the mail in pdf and enclose it, but it fails if the mail had itself enclosed files
 
10:22 PM
Yeah software design is weird. All these great features and they leave one out
 
@Mitch Proposition denied!
@crl Why not forward the conversation? Why is that not enough?
 
Dude, that book only got to Zuiderzee in 1998!
 
Well, the Zuiderzee didn't exist any more in 1998.
So why write the article any more?
 
Don't try to confuse the issue with you 'facts' and 'knowledge' which you probably made up. So it's now 'a Zuiderzee'
 
Nooo.
It no longer exists.
Just as it didn't exist before ca. 1287.
 
10:33 PM
Augh! You're way to reality based man. There's a word for it, so it exists conceptually.
 
> Approximate landscape in North Holland during the 1st century AD (left) and the 10th century AD (right)
@Mitch Sure, when it suits me!
> Historical map of the Netherlands (1658) with De Zuyder Zee.
 
So now what's left of it is the IJsselmeer?
Also those 1AD Dutchmen couldn't spell straight.
 
In Roman times there was Lake Flevo, Lacus Flevo.
The lake or system of lakes grew, and in the Middle Ages it became known as the Almere, the "All-lake".
 
crl
@Cerberus that's what I ended up doing
 
Then in 13th century, much of the land between the lake and the sea was washed away in big storms, and it became known as the Zuiderzee, the Southern Sea, as seen from Friesland (the pink province in the 17th-century map above).
 
crl
10:42 PM
Damn North Sea
 
@Mitch Then in 1932 a large dike was created to close off the inlet from the North Sea, and it was renamed the IJsselmeer, the "IJssel-lake", being the lake into which the river IJssel discharges.
And large parts of it were reclaimed during the rest of the century, creating the new province of Flevoland, "Flevo Land".
@crl Good.
@crl You have little to fear from it in France, don't you?
 
crl
Hehe especially from the south
but we never know, its currents are strong, they could follow the coast untill Gibraltar
 
Less strong than those of the Atlantic, right?
 
crl
Yep, and those of Antarctic
The Antarctic Circumpolar Current (ACC) is an ocean current that flows clockwise from west to east around Antarctica. An alternative name for the ACC is the West Wind Drift. The ACC is the dominant circulation feature of the Southern Ocean and has a mean transport of 100-150 Sverdrups (Sv, million m³/s), making it the largest ocean current. The current is circumpolar due to the lack of any landmass connecting with Antarctica and this keeps warm ocean waters away from Antarctica, enabling that continent to maintain its huge ice sheet. Associated with the Circumpolar Current is the Antarctic ...
that was a bit random, sorry
 
Oh, nice.
 
10:54 PM
@crl No beard. Maybe sometimes I'm just tired. Like today.
 
crl
And a helmet?
Mine is too voluminous, I don't like it much, so I ride mostly without
 
@Cerberus Ha! so it does still exist! They just changed the name!
 
@Mitch Yup!
 
Like pluto... we all thought that when they said it was no longer a planet that it had disappeared.
 
We did!
Luckily, some of us already knew my Master dwelt underground, not up in the sky.
 
11:09 PM
:D
 
I think if pluto somehow disappeared, very few people would notice. Maybe Neptune?
 
What about Mickey?
That's his dog, right?
:P
 
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Q: How do I identify a British idiom from an American one?

PHPstI live outside the US and the UK. I just started reading a book titled "Speak English like an American". The book teaches numerous idioms but I don't know if these idioms are usable outside the the US. (The main question) How many British and American idioms are either very similar or identical...

Please vote to reopen as we've now discovered there is now (well, for a few years) a google ngrams method to do the comparison.
@skillpatrol He's so fine!
@skillpatrol Oh. That Mickey. I thought Goofy was his dog and Pluto was just Goofy's friend?
 
11:25 PM
You're right @Mitch
It's been awhile since I watched Disney.
You blow my mind, Hey Mickey!
Does that mean plutonium is no longer a planetary element?
 

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