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3:00 PM
“code that can be easily converted to run on another platform”
 
@685-252 Takes up a lot of space.
 
> [c1821–2 Byron in Lett. (1830) I. 633 [We] put on masques, and went on the stage with the οἱ πολλοι.
 
That doesn't make it right, obviously.
You cannot "prove" proper style with statistics.
 
> 1668 Dryden Of Dramatick Poesie 65 If by the people you understand the multitude, the οἱ πολλοὶ.]
 
Stop it!! You're hurting the mine eyes.
 
3:01 PM
@Cerberus doesn't your screen automatically scroll?
 
@Cerberus Of course you can. That's how language works.
 
@685-252 I can't see older messages when half the screen is suddenly a one-box.
 
> 1791 in C. Wordsworth Scholae Academicae (1877) 323 Poor Quiz Carver is one of the οἱ πολλοί.
> 1837 J. F. Cooper Recoll. Europe II. 94 After which the oi polloi are enrolled as they can find interest.
> 1855 Read & Reflect i. 60 The hoi polloi [of Mauritius], as we say at Oxford, are mindless—all blank.
 
@Cerberus we tried to fix that remember :-)
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is the most ridiculous absurdity I have heard in a long time, that you can prove proper style with statistics. It merits no more words.
 
3:02 PM
@Cerberus Para! Tu és ferir os meus olhos.
 
@685-252 No?
 
gets tea, prepares to watch
 
@tchrist Is that an infinitive?
 
@Cerberus Well, it is, but the Portuguese have weird progressives. It would be estás ferendo in my mind.
 
@Cerberus Language is completely arbitrary, at some level. What is acceptable is determined by usage. Usage is demonstrable using statistics. QED.
 
3:04 PM
The point is the “the mine eyes” actually happens in some Romance languages.
It is . . . odd.
 
@tchrist Or with a preposition and an infinitive, like in Dutch/German.
 
@KitFox do you remember trying to get the bot to format?
 
What is the participle for avoir? I can't think of it.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I notice you do not use the term "proper style".
 
@685-252 Format which?
 
3:05 PM
@KitFox having or had?
 
@tchrist Oh, of course. And in Greek, and no doubt many other languages.
 
@KitFox any wiki requests
 
@KitFox eu
 
@KitFox Eu.
Pronounced /y/.
 
@Cerberus You'll need to define that first, then.
 
3:05 PM
Sorry, present participle. No, gerund. Gerund? Ing.
 
Ayant.
 
@685-252 As what?
@Cerberus Thank you.
 
@KitFox like it goes for the google requests
 
@KitFox Oh. Anyway, keep this handy.
 
@685-252 So it doesn't one-box?
 
3:06 PM
!!google stackexchange
 
@tchrist Thanks.
 
@KitFox yes
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't need to define that in order to declare your stuff about statistics less relevant!
 
Also, one more. It's la mienne, le tien, etc. What's the vous form of that?
 
3:07 PM
hands on hips
@KitFox Le vôtre.
 
That's right. Thanks.
 
With a circonflexe.
 
@Cerberus whatever.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No capital!!
 
@Cerberus Double exclamation marks!
 
3:09 PM
I'm sure @Mahnax would have known le vôtre!
@MattЭллен Yes!!!
Those are allowed.
 
anymore than three is redundant
 
@Cerberus That's not proper style. You're just as bad as the rest of the hoi polloi.
 
> In English use normally preceded by the def. article even though hoi means ‘the’.
 
@KitFox notre and votre take no hat if they are possessive determiners, but become nôtre and vôtre avec chapeaux when used as possessive pronouns.
 
3:10 PM
!!urban hoi polloi
 
@685-252 hoi polloi One of the great unwashed. Term applied to a person who lacks culture, sophistication and class. Someone with a sheep's mentality. Way behind in life.
 
Holly Polly
 
Also, the plural of notre ami is nos amis, but the plural of le nôtre is les nôtres.
Same with votre/vos and vôtre/vôtres.
 
Naturellement.
 
!!define Holly Polly
 
3:12 PM
@685-252 No definition found for Holly Polly
 
@MattЭллен Nooo I fail!
 
@685-252 No definition found.
 
@tchrist Yes, I remember. Thanks.
 
@JarvistheBot That is even worse, "one"? "A person"?
 
@Cerberus don't worry. It's not so bad down here, is it?
 
3:13 PM
It's nice and warm.
 
better to rule in hell...
 
reign
 
does it reign in hell?
 
It reigns fire in Hell.
 
3:15 PM
No, fire reigns in hell.
 
rein it in
 
No, we use the verb reign differently down here, where you mortals would say rain.
 
are there clouds in hell?
 
Plenty.
And they don't smell pretty.
 
sulphurous clouds
 
3:16 PM
Burning flesh.
That, too.
 
You don't know?
Oh, the spelling.
 
!!Youtube I love the rain
 
Sulphurous looks good.
 
3:17 PM
Arg so many one-boxes!
 
@Cerberus No it don't!
 
@Cerberus thanks :)
 
@terdon Whyn't?
 
Is this the Region, this the Soil, the Clime,
Said then the lost Arch-Angel, this the seat
That we must change for Heav'n, this mournful gloom
For that celestial light? Be it so, since he
Who now is Sovran can dispose and bid
What shall be right: fardest from him is best
Whom reason hath equald, force hath made supream
Above his equals. Farewel happy Fields
Where Joy for ever dwells: Hail horrours, hail
Infernal world, and thou profoundest Hell
Receive thy new Possessor: One who brings
A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
 
What's the concern about one-boxes?
 
3:18 PM
The yellow taint on your skin is very much en vogue here.
 
@Cerberus Dunno, it just don't. Nor does sulfurous though so I guess I'm just confused.
 
Milton was not a very good speller.
 
@terdon My dictionary accepts only sulphurous.
 
And what I should be, all but less then he
Whom Thunder hath made greater? Here at least
We shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built
Here for his envy, will not drive us hence:
Here we may reign secure, and in my choyce
To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n.
 
@Cerberus I haven't tried it, but I think this does the job: sourceforge.net/projects/footab
 
3:19 PM
UK/US I think.
 
For not having tabs load on startup.
 
21 mins ago, by Cerberus
No need to use the bot for everything! It clogs up the chat.
 
There is also something called LazyTabs. Not sure what that is for.
 
@terdon Rather that US/UK? I suppose UK/US is safer to pronounce.
 
And I can't be bothered to look that up.
 
3:20 PM
@Alraxite Ooo thanks, but I don't really need that. I thought this was about buffering in Youtube videos in FF.
 
@tchrist Dunno, you suck and you cuss... both could be good or bad depending on circumstances.
 
@Cerberus Oh, no. I've no solution to that.
 
@Cerberus Ouais.
 
Hwaet?
 
3:21 PM
@Mahnax Parfait.
 
Parfait (pronounced from French meaning "perfect") is a kind of frozen dessert that dates to 1894. France In France, parfait refers to a frozen dessert made from a base of sugar syrup, egg, and cream. A parfait contains enough fat, sugar, alcohol and/or to a lesser extent air to allow it to be made by stirring infrequently while freezing, making it possible to create in a home kitchen without specialist equipment. The fat, sugar, alcohol or air interferes with the formation of water crystals, which would otherwise give the ice cream an uncomfortable texture in the mouth. The formatio...
 
@Alraxite OK, so I once had this extension or script that purported to help, but in the end I think it didn't. Perhaps owing to some Youtube change.
 
@tchrist US/UK = you suck and UK/US= you cuss
 
@tchrist We know!
 
@terdon Je t’ai entendu la première fois.
 
3:22 PM
@terdon In other words, Nieuw Zeelands is best.
 
> France In France
 
@Cerberus I like the visual effect of the one-boxes :-)
 
@Cerberus But I think now that parfait == trifle?
 
Could be!
 
@tchrist désolée, j'ai pensée que le "Hwaet?" était pour moi.
 
3:23 PM
I always confuse bavarois and bavaroise, trifle and parfait, panna cotta and crême, etc. etc.
 
!!wiki Cerberus
 
Cerberus (; Kerberos ) in Greek and Roman mythology, is a multi-headed (usually three-headed) dog, or "hellhound" with a serpent's tail, a mane of snakes, and a lion's claws. He guards the entrance of the underworld to prevent the dead from escaping and the living from entering. Cerberus is featured in many works of ancient Greek and Roman literature and in works of both ancient and modern art and architecture, although the depiction of Cerberus differs across various renditions. The most notable difference is the number of his heads: Most sources describe or depict three heads; othe...
 
Haha stop it!!
 
@terdon No, fue para el chaval.
 
@Cerberus Do youtube videos rewind fine in Chrome for you?
 
3:24 PM
Never tried...
 
Hic venit porn cerberi
 
OK.
 
Youtube's player is surprisingly bad
 
You could download a portable version and see for yourself.
 
@tchrist I know porn, np
 
3:25 PM
@JohanLarsson p ≟ np
 
@Alraxite Yes!
@tchrist That should be porne or porna or pornus or pornos.
@JohanLarsson It is.
 
@tchrist have a feeling this unicode means something.
 
@Cerberus It’s apocapal.
 
@Cerberus Oh, I thought that 'Never tried' was directed at me. OK, they work fine for me too.
 
@tchrist I have been searching for the name of that symbol for literally YEARS
 
3:27 PM
@tchrist We don't do that in Latin! It's not Greek!
@Alraxite It was. So I tried and reported back to you.
 
@Cerberus You downloaded one so soon?
 
@Alraxite Sure, just opened a video.
 
@685-252 "Questioned equal to"
 
Oh, right. I thought you didn't have chrome.
 
How long does it take you to play a Youtube video for a few seconds and click the seek bar?
 
3:28 PM
@685-252 You need one of my scripts. I just fed it args of "equal" and "question" and it spat out:
 
‭ ≟  225F       QUESTIONED EQUAL TO
 
@Alraxite Ah, no, I have it, but I only use it when a page won't work in FF.
 
@Cerberus Seek bar? To rewind? Or are you talking about pausing it to allow it to buffer?
 
macbook# uninames question equal
 
3:29 PM
Great, thanks @Mahnax @tchrist
 
@tchrist I have already incorporated that symbol in my Autohotkey. ≟
I select it in chat, press alt-control-win-shift-h, type whichever hotstring I prefer, and press enter.
Takes 5 seconds.
 
There are so many symbols with EQUAL in them, it’s nutzola.
 
=?? now results in ≟ for me.
And =// was already ≠ for me.
 
‭ =  003D       EQUALS SIGN
        * other related characters: 2241-2263
        x (not equal to - 2260)
        x (identical to - 2261)
        x (modifier letter short equals sign - A78A)
        x (roman sextans sign - 10190)
‭◌ ͇  0347       COMBINING EQUALS SIGN BELOW
        * IPA: alveolar
‭◌ ͌  034C       COMBINING ALMOST EQUAL TO ABOVE
        * IPA: velopharyngeal friction
‭◌ ᷽  1DFD      COMBINING ALMOST EQUAL TO BELOW
‭ ⁼  207C       SUPERSCRIPT EQUALS SIGN
        # <super> 003D
‭ ₌  208C       SUBSCRIPT EQUALS SIGN
 
⩦_⩦
 
3:31 PM
Aww.
pats @Matt You'll get used to it.
 
⩮_⩮
 
^ too much TV
 
@KitFox thx
 
@Alraxite You can see how bar buffering has progressed on the seek bar, right? If you are at, say, 50 seconds and you click on 20 seconds, in Firefox, you have to wait for it to rebuffer the part that should already have been buffered, since you have already watched it. That is what you are talking about, isn't it? In Chrome, that does not happen, it doesn't need to rebuffer.
 
@Cerberus Yes.
That's what I'm talking about, yes.
 
3:40 PM
OK.
 
Which is more common "percent symbol" or "percent sign" ?
 
@Cerberus Try this: youtube.com/html5.
 
Percentage sign, I would say.
 
I think it fixes it.
 
Ah, I have tried the html5 player.
 
3:42 PM
@Cerberus what is that google thing say?
 
But it was a bit glitchy.
@685-252 What?
 
the graph
 
@Cerberus WOW :-O
 
It still doesn't seem as smooth as chrome, but the rewind works better for me.
 
3:45 PM
OK noted.
I have to go take a nap now, later!
 
Bye!
 
later pal
 
Also, there is a huge spinning buffer indicator now.
Instead of the medium sized spinning buffer indicator.
 
Bye!
 
Also, I can't seem to play Snake on it.
 
So.
I revised this question.
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Q: "Whom" in legal contexts (and possibly others)

LePressentimentFrom page 48 of Law, by Raymond Wacks: In other words, you owe a duty to persons whom it is foreseeable are likely to be harmed by your conduct. I tried to parse this by temporarily overlooking the expression it is foreseeable, but then persons is the subject of the verb phrase are likely ...

I feel it is no longer a duplicate.
And also that at least one answer is still relevant, but I haven't gotten all the way through the second one yet.
Yes, they both still seem to fit.
It doesn't seem to have come up in the review queue though.
 
4:10 PM
 
@685-252 Haha
 
That will teach them that spending 14 billion dollars can't buy you the cup
 
4:25 PM
> “Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win.” — Gary Lineker, 1990
 
 
1 hour later…
5:47 PM
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Q: What is this rap saying?

user81823It's from a Korean TV program about competing rappers. But I can't recognize what words are used at 00:15 (the guy with two hands up beside his head and wearing a black t-shirt and a cap) in the English part of the rap, because English is not my mother tongue. Please let me know! Here is the song.

Surely this is closeworthy.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:01 PM
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: Fluency not required (no tags)
 
There once was a basket of cheese
Designed to combat disease
The one major flaw
In this antibac war
Was the cheese then made everyone sneeze

http://limerickmachine.tumblr.com/post/91275367444
 
7:29 PM
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: There is no human compulsion stronger than the need to change the chat room description (no tags)
@JohanLarsson Are you pulling for @Cerb or his nemeses tonight?
 
I think arg, they dive less
are you watching?
 
Is it on now? I thought it started in half an hour.
 
yeah 30 minutes
hope ref brigs his cards, think this can get brutal
 
Ah, so you meant "Are you watching?" in the English sense of implied future.
 
7:33 PM
@JohanLarsson Doesn't matter who wins. Nobody's gonna beat the Deutsch Diesel.
Hello, @Oliver, what brings you to these parts?
 
germany will be favorites but nothing huge I think
 
@Robusto I usually hang around here for no particular reason
 
Me too!
 
@OliverSalzburg how do yuo decide what rooms not to lurk in? :)
@Robusto are you oranje?
 
@JohanLarsson Other people with my names similar to mine in it. Causes too many pings
 
7:39 PM
:)
 
@JohanLarsson I'm a disinterested observer. By that I do not mean uninterested, merely that I have no skin in the game.
 
ok pretty much the same here, the diving swings it for me though
 
8:00 PM
looks cold in Sao Paolo, dunno if it is raining
 
8:39 PM
@JohanLarsson São
 
It’s a nasal vowel: if you pinch your nose, you can’t say it.
 
@Robusto I'm an uninteresting observer
 
 
2 hours later…
10:35 PM
Yawn.
This is why America doesn't care for soccer.
120 minutes of foreplay followed by three minutes of payoff.
 
Yay! America wins by not caring!
 
not the best game
prolly good defense for the ones skilled enough to appreciate it
 
10:51 PM
I guess we had enough goals for one world cup already.
 
Messi invisible
ref did an ok job
 
Messy.
 
wow, you must be the first on the internet to spot that :)
 
I have a lightning grasp of the obvious.
 
Germany feels like a bigger favorite after watching this game
 
10:57 PM
!!urban pupm
 
@JasonMarsh [pupm](http://pupm.urbanup.com/7827090) Push ups per minute
Pull ups per minute
 
Messi looked lazy, walking all the time, don't think I saw him run without the ball once
 
Guys, do you immediately cover your mouth with elbow pit when you are about to cough?
I don't know how I got this habit though. Every Korean people cover their mouth with their palm hand when they are about to cough.
 
elbow pit > palm
 
Why?
 
11:07 PM
read it in a manual (true story)
 
What manual are you talking about? Is it more attractive to women?
 
We received some ~education~ about it at work
 
11:20 PM
attractiveness was an unexpected criteria
 
Johan, are you related to Germany by any chance?
or Brasil?
 
I have a sister who lives in Brazil, married to a Brazilian
have a few chat friends who live in Germany
 
11:37 PM
@JohanLarsson *criterion
 
ty sir
 
I was going to comment on that
 
@685-252 Raiders suck.
 

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