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5:00 PM
and people call me a hat whore
 
Do they?
 
@kalina If you are a hat whore, then I am a star whore.
 
@RegDwigнt I have done 7 of these. Exhausting. I got the first 5 perfectly right. Then they got harder, or my eyes got tired.
I'm trying to decide if I should tough it out to the end.
 
@KitFox I dunno why you people find it exhausting. It's just a couple seconds per round. Ten rounds in total. You make it exhausting, but it isn't.
I mean, you can rotate every Tetris tile you get fifty times before finally dropping it, but the game does not force you to.
 
Because I want to do well!
 
5:04 PM
I got 100/100 when I didn't even try. I also got like 68 when I tried real hard.
Better is an enemy of good.
 
92/100
 
It's so hard to answer questions these days, maybe my answering ability on SE has declined.
 
@KitFox is that the final score?
 
Yes, overall.
I did terribly on xylophone.
 
So you are 3% better than me. That is all that exhaustion got you.
 
5:06 PM
That is so worth it.
 
Ha.
Don't make me go all exhausted on you.
Speaking of which, I gotta run!
Lators.
 
I wouldn't. I'm married!
Bai!
 
@MattЭллен That's no excuse.
 
In other news, Math SE is becoming known as a place where people go to cheat for their homework questions.
 
@RegDwigнt "glossalalia"
@JasperLoy But people actual enable that by answering! I put in comments like " You just did their homework!"
 
5:14 PM
@Mitch Actually, as long as my answer is upvoted, I don't really care, lol. They can go elsewhere and cheat anyway.
 
It seems kind of obvious when some one asks if 2^75 + 3^492 + 7^6 is divisible by 11. Not exactly general.
 
Yes.
No.
I mean...
Yo.
 
5:43 PM
@Mitch Maybe not as obvious as one might think. After all that is not standard notation except in computer programming.
 
6:41 PM
Hi.
 
Howdy Cerb.
 
88/100, 95/100, and now I'm not trying anymore because stupid xylophone and a couple of the others without pronounced serifs keep getting me. Though I'm surprised how forgiving it is with gargantuan. It let me have 100 even though I can see the blue peeking out quite a bit.
resists the urge to play the keming game just one more time
Afternoon, y'all!
 
@aediaλ Have you had your coffee?
 
Not enough of it.
 
@MετάEd Nice new pic.
 
6:46 PM
I should have another cup to preempt the afternoon crankiness.
 
@JasperLoy Thank you. MLK day is coming up!
 
@aediaλ Stupid xylophone messed me up too.
See you all later!
 
@KitFox I know! I was sure it looked ok, but then it wasn't ok enough!
@KitFox Bai! Commute safe.
 
@aediaλ What kind of game is this? Is it fun?
 
5 hours ago, by RegDwigнt
 
6:54 PM
5 hours ago, by RegDwigнt
jinx
 
Jinx!
 
Haha.
 
Aaaah jinx jinx!
 
jinx jinx!
jinx jinx jinx!
 
Hahahaha.
 
6:55 PM
Cokes all around.
 
I think the drawing is by this guy.
 
put – a – banana in your ear
@aediaλ I didn't know Jesus was a graphic designer.
 
7:27 PM
@MετάEd now I have a song stuck in my head, thanks
 
Hilarious game, as a concept.
> Your score 100 / 100
Yay!
I'm not sure it is actually fun, though...
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Let me be your earworm.
 
@MετάEd I'm not sure you fit in my ear. Unlike that banana.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's the nicest thing somebody has said to me today.
 
...
> In May of 2005, then graduate student A. Dorai at MIT publicized and held a convention for time travelers. No one claiming to come from the future showed up. S. Hawking did a similar experiment in July of 2012, holding a personal party for time travelers, but sending out the invitations only after the party. No one claiming to be a time traveler showed up.
 
7:51 PM
@Cerberus Is that from the paper that has been circulating?
 
arxiv.org/abs/1312.7128 "Searching the Internet for evidence of time travelers" (Robert J. Nemiroff, Teresa Wilson, 26 Dec 2013)
Yep. Same people.
 
Yes.
> "Time travel to the past is controversial at best and impossible according to conventional views of the laws of physics."
But temporal travel to the future is not?
If I travel to the future, doesn't that mean that the rest of the universe travels to the past?
 
@Cerberus you are travelling to the future right now
 
gasp
Oh noes!
What the hell is going on?
The world is changing! That message, it wasn't there just a few seconds ago!!
 
7:57 PM
Unfortunately some sites don't load correctly when I use a proxy to access them, lol.
 
@JasperLoy Use a free VPN like Tunnelbear?
 
i was just reading about these time travelers
 
1.5 GB free per month.
 
@Cerberus THE FUTURE BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES
 
@Cerberus Is there any free proxy site that you would recommend?
 
7:58 PM
Waahh I'm going crazy!
 
i'm secretly a time traveler from the year 129377623 BC
 
@JasperLoy I always use a VPN instead, which is more reliable and more convenient, so I wouldn't know.
@JSBձոգչ What can you tell us about that year?
Did you fear the spinosauri?
 
@Cerberus Do they block sites there?
 
Where?
 
Where you live.
 
7:59 PM
Yes.
Pirate sites.
 
Oh, I thought your place has no censorship.
 
Alas, it does.
 
@Cerberus things were difficult in the early cretaceous
the internet service is MUCH better now
 
But only torrent sites, so far as I know, like the Pirate Bay.
 
however, we had ankylosaurs, so that was nice
 
8:00 PM
@JSBձոգչ Oh, was that the cretaceous already?
When did it start?
 
The Aptian is an age in the geologic timescale or a stage in the stratigraphic column. It is a subdivision of the Early or Lower Cretaceous epoch or series and encompasses the time from 125.0 ± 1.0 Ma to 112.0 ± 1.0 Ma (million years ago), approximately. The Aptian succeeds the Barremian and precedes the Albian, all part of the Lower/Early Cretaceous. The Aptian partly overlaps the upper part of the regionally used (in western Europe) stage Urgonian. Stratigraphic definitions The Aptian was named after the small city of Apt in the Provence region of France, which is also known for its cr...
 
@Cerberus Ah, well you know what sites they block here, lol.
 
I still have an ankylosaur that I made out of clay when I was 10.
@JasperLoy I know: a ton!
 
@Cerberus Yes, if I could I would move out of this sick place.
 
@JSBձոգչ But you said 129M years ago...
 
8:02 PM
^ see, this is an awesome dinosaur. stegosaurus, eat your heart out
 
@JasperLoy Tunnelbear lets you be in Germany, France, Japan, America, or Canada, I believe.
You can choose.
 
@Cerberus ha! so i did
 
@JSBձոգչ Pah, that's just a coloured-in stegosaur.
 
The Barremian is an age in the geologic timescale (or a chronostratigraphic stage) between 130.0 ± 1.5 Ma (million years ago) and 125.0 ± 1.0 Ma). It is a subdivision of the Early Cretaceous epoch (or Lower Cretaceous series). It is preceded by the Hauterivian and followed by the Aptian stage. The Barremian falls in the Gallic epoch, a subdivision of the Cretaceous that is no longer used by the ICS. It overlaps the lower part of the Urgonian stage, which is sometimes used in western European stratigraphy. In North America, the late Coahulian and the early Comanchean correspond to the Barr...
clearly, we didn't call it the "aptian" back then, so it's easy to get this modern nomenclature mixed up
 
You have just betrayed yourself, Mr Time-Traveller!
 
8:04 PM
@Cerberus I choose to be with Cerberus, lol.
 
I don't think Tunnelbear can do that.
 
@MετάEd ?? What part of that is not standard? The numbers, the plus, the exponent?
 
But I'm sure there are other VPNs or proxies that can.
 
@aediaλ What's up with all your high scores? What's wrong with leaving as is? Why make people mess with it, just have an algorithm and be done with it.
@Cerberus Tunnelbear seems so...nice. Like an Ewok or a panda.
 
@Mitch the way you express the exponent
 
8:09 PM
I intend to get 1k and then retire, lol.
 
I intend to get 101 and retire with a vengeance.
 
Well, you already have 101.
 
Where I will find a vengeance is up to serendipity. Or the hardware store.
@JasperLoy Shit shit shit shit shit. Do I have to go now?
@Cerberus like this:
 
Wow, that is a lovely pic.
 
The last thing...the other panda kicks him in the head.
 
8:12 PM
@Mitch Hey, did you take that gif from the website of Tunnelbear?
 
@Cerberus I should have, shouldn't I?
But no.
 
Should you have?
 
I stole it from...
some place.
@Cerberus I don't know, should I?
 
Do I know?
 
@Cerberus Exactly. Me neither.
 
8:13 PM
Uhuh.
 
Oh, Tunnelbear also works in England, which is really why I ever started using it, to watch the BBC.
 
@Cerberus I know! The police state formerly known as the Netherlands blocks all of that commie propaganda from the BBC.
 
@Mitch Umm very relevant.
@Mitch No, no, the police state formerly know as England blocks all people from elsewhere.
You cant watch the BBC either.
Nor ITV.
Not that I really care any more, because I don't watch Downton any more.
Besides, torrenting is easier anyway.
 
yup. they don't want the UK public's TV being shared with jonny foreigner!
 
8:16 PM
Yeah that's annoying, and mainly futile.
 
they've paid for it
 
So here's a serious issue...no one ever points out that MJ smoke is probably just as bad as tobacco smoke for your lungs. If you smoke MJ all the time, it's not the THC (by analogy, the nicotine) that kills you, it's the smoke in your lungs causing cancer.
 
And I think you mean the former UK.
 
so you can't enjoy it too!
 
I'd love to pay for it.
 
8:16 PM
you're not allowed to pay for it
 
@Mitch Or the psychosis, yes.
@MattЭллен Take my money!!
 
I would love to rule the world, then there would be no censorship
 
@Cerberus Just like it for a non-Englander to spout their propaganda from a crypto-free state.
 
throws € 0,20 @Matt
 
@Mitch however nicotine is way way way more toxic than thc
 
8:17 PM
@Mitch Umm what? Crypto free?
 
@MattЭллен in spades. and clubs.
 
@Cerberus oh! my eye!
 
That's two eyes!
 
@Cerberus What, really? Who did she marry?
 
I threw two coins of € 0,10.
 
8:17 PM
I am currently severely disliking user X. I hope user X does not show up in chat.
 
ow! my other eye!
 
@MattЭллен I don't want to pay for it. I want them to pay me to watch it.
 
@Mitch She married Mr Police State, as you said.
 
@Mitch you can get some of it on your cable tv or something "BBC America"
slowly taking back the colonies, one TV show at a time
 
@JasperLoy Does person X ever chat here? Do I know him?
 
8:18 PM
@Cerberus ?? Hmm...I wonder what the stats are on THC psychosis related deaths, or car accidents.
 
@Cerberus sexist! user X might be female!
 
@Cerberus I think you know who person X is. But he/she is not in this chat currently.
 
@JasperLoy There are some things you just don't want to tell people. Like that sweater. Really, that's an awful color.
 
@Mitch I know THC can cause various psychological disorders, including psychosis and schizophrenia, but it's probably rare.
 
@Cerberus speciesist! user X might not be a person!
 
8:19 PM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How dare you even mention the word "female", you sexist!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Haha, maybe you are right, lol.
 
@Cerberus ha. I didn't just mention it! I used it! like I use all 'females'!
 
@MattЭллен Argh...exactly. It's not the THC/nicotine, it's the smoky particles causing DNA deterioration leading to cancer.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If it isn't a person, I'm allowed to destroy it, aren't I?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 !!
You beast!
 
@Cerberus He does look good in a uniform.
 
8:20 PM
@Cerberus Only if it belongs to you.
 
@Mitch Hehe, good one.
 
@Cerberus holy crap I missed the money throwing.
 
hey, so I was watching a cop show on TV, where a person was killed, then before the police arrived, the body was stolen by a cryogenics facility who had a contract to preserve that guy's body for eventual re-animation.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's the information I personally copied from the Pirate Bay, so it is my intellectual property that I took away from TPB.
 
The question is: did the person who shot him commit murder?
 
8:21 PM
@Mitch Too late!
 
@MattЭллен Downton Abbey fever! I'm drowning in tea!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 user X might not be an entity.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If he dies, then yes. Otherwise, no.
 
@Cerberus well... as far as we know, he is currently dead, but according to him, and the cryogenics facility, that's temporary.
 
8:22 PM
@Cerberus ha ha, you used it -and- mentioned it. You're not having cake or eating it too!
 
@MattЭллен We had an English "high tea" yesterday (even though we know that's not actually a U English word, or even a U practice).
 
oh! what's in high tea? is it like cream tea?
 
We had cucumber sandwiches, and we made sconns. And clotted cream*.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I used to do that all the time, but the money is not reliable.
 
8:23 PM
@Cerberus ah! that's right, cream tea with sandwiches
 
*) The cream was actually bought at M&S, but not the sconns.
 
I haven't watched Autotune the News in so long and I can't get this out of my head now.
 
@MattЭллен Exactly, so I learned that cream tea is not simply tea with cream in it!
 
@Cerberus Any excuse for a snack, time well spent.
 
We also drank very English kinds of tea. With milk, of course. Oh, and vinegar crisps.
 
8:24 PM
@Cerberus You cream clotter!
 
@Cerberus indeed :D
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think there is a time limit when you're legally dead.
@Mitch Buyer!
 
@Cerberus THat seems perverse. What else would be in it?
@Cerberus There is non-English kind of tea?
 
A cream tea (also known as a Devonshire tea, Devon cream tea or Cornish cream tea) is tea taken with a combination of scones, clotted cream, and jam. Cream teas are offered for sale in tea rooms throughout the United Kingdom (especially South West England) and the rest of the Commonwealth. History The name "Devonshire tea" comes from the county of Devon in England. The exact origin of "cream tea" is disputed, although there is evidence to suggest that the tradition of eating bread with cream and jam already existed at Tavistock Abbey in Devon in the 11th century. Variations There are ...
We also had two kinds of very English jam.
 
strawberry and ... blackcurrant?
 
8:26 PM
@Cerberus I've never bought clotted cream. I've only ever borrowed it.
 
@Mitch There is Chinese tea, or modern kinds of tea.
@MattЭллен Gooseberry jam and blackcurrent marmalade.
 
There is only one tea species, surprisingly.
 
@Cerberus But that's a kind of English tea.
 
@Mitch Gross!
 
!!
 
8:27 PM
@Mitch I'm sorry. I don't know what you mean. Use the help command to learn more.
 
@Cerberus oh! fancy!
 
What on earth is clotted cream?
 
@Mitch I wouldn't say so...green tea is hardly stereotypically English!
 
Oh. Ugh. What is that?
 
@aediaλ cream that's clotted :D
 
8:27 PM
!!wiki clotted cream
 
Clotted cream (sometimes called clouted cream or Cornish cream) is a thick cream made by indirectly heating full-cream cow's milk using steam or a water bath and then leaving it in shallow pans to cool slowly. During this time, the cream content rises to the surface and forms 'clots' or 'clouts'. It forms an essential part of a cream tea. Although its origin is uncertain, the cream's production is commonly associated with dairy farms in South West England and in particular the counties of Cornwall and Devon. The current largest commercial producer in the UK is Rodda's in Redruth, Cornwa...
 
@Cerberus yeah, there are legal definitions, which are fairly obvious.
 
> there is evidence to suggest that the tradition of eating bread with cream and jam already existed at Tavistock Abbey in Devon in the 11th century
I love England.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 1 minute, 10 minutes, an hour, a day or so?
 
8:28 PM
@aediaλ It's basically the fat taken from cream.
 
@Cerberus That sounds very fatty.
 
It does, doesn't it?
 
@JasperLoy 0% fat
 
I'm reading that right now. And I don't think I've ever seen such a foodstuff in my life. It looks like the offspring of butter and cream cheese or something.
 
the low fat variety has even less
 
8:28 PM
So in the show, the murderer eventually commits suicide and is also frozen. Given that they had already confessed to the murder, they are a criminal. I wonder if they would have to serve a punishment upon re-animation.
 
@MattЭллен the dispatcher is not running in the tests, whatever that means :)
 
@aediaλ a great combination!
 
@MattЭллен You mean 0 % outside the fat part?
 
@JohanLarsson I see. I guess the dispatcher is a WPF thing?
 
@Mitch Well, a person who was found dead on the street, then cryogenically frozen, would be considered dead according to current legal standards.
 
8:29 PM
@MattЭллен That's wrong. It's like low-fat yogurt or caffeine-/sugar-free/cholesteral free Coke.
 
@Cerberus the best kind of fat
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It seems that people who jump off and die are handcuffed, I find that very unreasonable.
 
@MattЭллен not exclusive to wpf I think
 
There isn't really any question. Eventually I expect some lawyer to argue that a cryo-frozen person isn't dead yet.
@JasperLoy where on earth would they bother handcuffing a dead person.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If the victim lives again, then the murderer's crime is thereby expunged. Before that time, he remains guilty, though.
 
8:30 PM
a -frozen- dead person.
an unfrozen dead person might flail around.
 
@MattЭллен The secret, sneaky kind!
 
Technically, someone who kills himself is a murderer.
 
@JasperLoy no.
 
victimless crime.
 
@Cerberus surely the murderer then becomes guilty of assault, at least
 
8:31 PM
@MattЭллен Yes, attempted murder, absolutely.
 
@MattЭллен or vandalism of property.
 
@JasperLoy I steal food straight from my own fridge every day, the bastard.
 
Hah.
 
or at least I hope it is my fridge, otherwsie that family is going to feel pretty smug right now about calling the police.
 
ironically, in this story, the murderer was trying to preserve the victim's life, by preventing the victim from dying in a manner which precluded cryogenically freezing them.
 
8:32 PM
how thoughtful
 
@JasperLoy Technically, yes.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If that is all proven to be true and possible, then it's probably no longer a crime at all...
 
It really calls into question modern laws though. Let's say I shoot you, and you "die", are frozen, then revived 1000 years later. I also died and was frozen and revived, having never been tried or convicted of the crime (though the evidence was clear that I did it: I confessed on tape, or something). Can I now be tried, a millennium later?
 
would you have a suspended sentence? would society even die anymore
 
Is there a statute of limitations on assault? There isn't on murder, but should there be?
 
8:35 PM
I say, kill them all and let god sort them out
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's what statutes of limitation are for: time eventually makes crimes less relevant and clear-cut.
 
people would probably die, by accident or in situations where not enough is left to preserve
 
3
Q: Simple past vs past progressive in as/while/when-clauses

IndaI was given a link to this Q and A board by a member of English Language & Usage and this issue has been rattling around in my head for almost a day now. QUESTION by http://ell.stackexchange.com/users/1224/sherlock As/while I was walking along the beach, I saw a UFO. In that sentence, what...

 
@Cerberus right. But there is no statute of limitation on murder.
 
This belongs here^^
 
8:36 PM
at least, not in the US.
 
Isn't there?
Why the US?
I'm actually not sure.
 
why the US: because I know from TV that there is no limitation on murder.
 
I am neither a murderer nor murdered, not at the moment, so it is less relevant for me...
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 There may be in other countries, though...
 
9:04 PM
@matt I got your email, thanks!
 
can't you just reply via email?
 
@skullpatrol Never seen this keyboard.
 
looks handy :-)
 
9:22 PM
@Mitch The caret.
Standard math notation would be 2⁷⁵ + 3⁴⁹² + 7⁶.
 
@MετάEd lol
 
And of course this is entirely aside from scientific notation.
 
9:52 PM
@MετάEd Except properly aligned.
Careful lest you wake the Christ!
 
@Cerberus Yeah, superscripting with Unicode leaves a lot to be desired.
 
Quite.
Except if you can use a "proper" font, the baby says.
 
One could take the Buddhist approach and relinquish the desire.
 
Could one?
 
3 mins ago, by MετάEd
One could take the Buddhist approach and relinquish the desire.
 
10:00 PM
Has one?
I suppose Christmas is over.
 
posted on January 06, 2014 by sgdi

The dirt on his face was unseemly He refused to go along cleanly They took him away To return the next day Cleaner yet slightly less mealy

 
@JasperLoy n oprobs
 
I didn't get any email. sulks
 
10:19 PM
@KitFox Maybe I will send you one as well the next time.
 
Ok! I'd like that.
 
user15026
peeks
 
@AshleyNunn What brings you here today?
 
Ohai @Ashley! Welcome to my. Chat room.
I'm on a tablet. I can't type so well.
 
user15026
@JasperLoy Just peeking about, I like to visit new network places from time to time, I get curious :)
 
10:30 PM
@AshleyNunn Well, to me this is the most exciting chat room on SE.
 
user15026
@JasperLoy awesome :D
 
All topics in the world are discussed here. =)
 
user15026
I like that :)
 
We're pretty cool like that.
Ima have dinner. Later!
 
All topics, like...Spanish.
And Latin.
And French. And German. And Russian. And Dutch.
Occasionally even English.
 
10:39 PM
Sometimes Japanese and Chinese.
 
user15026
Interesting. I know a little Dutch, and a little Russian, and some French. And, well, English is my native language.
 
Heel goed!
Très bon.
 
@MattЭллен how do you express the exponent? Fortran_last_century style as **?
@MετάEd Oh. How do you do the superscript? in HTML?
@MετάEd relinquishing is too clingy for the Buddha. You must relinquish your relinquishing.
 
@Mitch Here in chat the markdown is so limited that I use Unicode superscript. HTML superscript is preferable to that, but of course if one is creating a work for publishing one would use the superscript feature of the publishing software.
 
@AshleyNunn Also, nothing is serious here (except when it is). Also, anything goes.
 
10:47 PM
@Mitch If you meet the Buddha on the road, superscript him.
 
@MετάEd OK. How do you do the Unicode superscript?
 
user15026
@Mitch Very cool, thanks for that note.
 
@MετάEd If you're walking along the road and someone superscripts you, someone has mistaken you for the Buddha.
 
@Mitch There are various input methods; a very common one is to simply keep a library of special characters and copy/paste them. For example in Windows 8 you can copy/paste from the Character Map app.
That's what I did above.
 
@MετάEd augh. that is not worth it.
tries alt-key combinations. totally screws up screen
 
10:50 PM
@Mitch Another thing I use a lot is the "US-International" input method which lets me do a lot of common Latinate codes with simple chording. For example é is AltGR+e.
The Euro sign (€) is AltGR+5.
And so on.
 
AltGR? The sound of a panda choking on a saltine?
 
It's the right Alt key which is sometimes labeled AltGR.
AltGr (also Alt Graph, Alt Graphic, Alt Graphics, Alt Grill, Alt Car, Alt Char, or Right Alt) is a modifier key found on many computer keyboards and is primarily used to type characters that are unusual for the locale of the keyboard layout, such as currency symbols and accented letters. On a typical IBM compatible PC keyboard, the AltGr key, when present, takes the place of the right-hand Alt key. In OS X, the Option key has functions similar to the AltGr key. AltGr is used similarly to the Shift key: it is held down when another key is struck in order to obtain a character other tha...
 
This computer stuff! It's so hard!
 
@Mitch The real problem is that written languages are so hard. There are more than 100 000 characters already defined in Unicode.
So making an input method which lets you type them easily is … problematic.
Which, by the way, I entered by typing: So making an input method which lets you type them easily is Alt+0133 problematic.
Sorry, didn't use AltGr for that one.
The numeric keypad is the most general input method on Windows 7 for Unicode characters. You can enter any character if you know its code.
 

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