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3:06 PM

> While asking for the location of my airport window in US, I was told that it is over the bridge.

I wonder what that actually means.

I think he meant airport widow, not airport window.

The entire post is ragged.

That is another question that I would have loved to just kill.

But I seem to be alone.

No, I just found it.

I was going to try to edit it into shape, and then realized I might not be able to do so.

The answers don't even answer the question as asked; that's how pointless the question as asked is.

They know nothing to do with it, so they talk about something else.

Well, JR at least tries.

3:09 PM

He went both over the bridge and through the dictionary.

Bet that hurt.

But last I checked he was at 0, while the other answer was upvoted several times.

I have it open for edit, trying to fix it.

Not getting very far.

It's a payoffless endeavour.

Most are.

There. Edited. Downvoted. Closevoted.

Still lame:

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Q: When the phrase "past a room" is used?

we climbed up the steps and walked past a room with a luxurious king-sized bed. I know the meaning of past here is one side of the other But the question is why here the phrase "past a room" is suitable instead of "one side of the other room"?

meaning phrasal-verbs

Meanwhile I was busy doing reading comprehension for someone else.

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Q: What is the meaning of cog as in the link " http://paulgraham.com/todo.html"

In the Essay " http://paulgraham.com/todo.html" Paul Graham summarizes in one line the advice to be taken from the article http://www.inspirationandchai.com/Regrets-of-the-Dying.html as don't be a cog. What does cog mean. Google search https://www.google.co.in/search?q=cog+meaning defines cog as...

I mean, come on. It is Sunday.

3:27 PM

They’re getting snippy.

@RegDwighт: The reason you have stated here and the reason you are specified to close this thread are not even matching. How come I know your true intentions with out specifying? You should place your intentions in the comments before close the question. Other wise there is no clue for the author to take right action to improve his post. And it is always reasonable first ask the author for explanation and if you don't get justifiable one then mark it close. Any way I have taken action and removed the ambiguity. Please open the question — vehitha 4 mins ago

Does anyone know if Linux and BSD Unix handle Javascript differently from Windows? Specifically, do they "hoist" function literals assigned to variables (which technically they shouldn't do)?

Matt Эллен

you should be able to test that because anything that is hoisted becomes part of the window object in browsers

afaik

Well, certain functions are out of sequence in this new CMS, but they work on Linux/Unix (apparently) but not on Windows. So I can't debug this crap from my work machine because my session userid never gets authenticated.

Matt Эллен

ah

I don't know anything about OSes. At all.

My OS is the browser.

3:36 PM

@Robusto That is not an OS question; it is a browser question.

@tchrist Well, it doesn't work right on any browser in Windows.

Probably implemented via fork(2) then. :)

I just wonder whether a call to getSessionUser before getSessionUser has been instantiated isn't a red flag of some kind.

You should probably find someone who actually cares about Javascript.

If those were declared functions it wouldn't matter, but since they are in effect variable assignments, it should matter. The question isn't really why doesn't it work on Windows, but why should it work anywhere?

3:40 PM

struggles to control an epileptic seizure

Have you tried with at least 4 browsers on at least 3 operating systems, and gotten the same consistency in function/nonfunction?

It sounds like you have.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto In my experience, browser-based JS code does not change on different OSes

I didn’t think these Javascript thingies shared a common per-platform implementation the way JVM implementations tend to do.

You make it sound as they do, if the browser doesn’t matter.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

You might be dealing with some other variability: like, the linux user has a cached copy of an older version of the code which does work.

Or maybe something like Adobe Flash is being loaded on Windows and not on Linux and that causes an error.

Just give me machine language and be done with it.

Matt Эллен

101010

3:46 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's what I would have thought. But you never know what's going on with CMS systems. They are larded up with code beyond belief.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

This link explains function hoisting

Matt Эллен

sounds like your hunch about creation order is right then, @Robusto

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Well, sure. But almost all the time a given browser version works almost identically on the different platforms. eg Firefox 16 on Linux is almost identical to Firefox 16 on Windows. Especially in the easy parts like the JS engine. The hard parts are things like font rendering, which are heavily platform specific, but usually don't lead to correctness-problems.

And also I got the meaning of past from Dictionary software which comes with the MAC OSX under the prepositions.Now I got searched in the internet got the other meaning.Why are you not giving benefit of doubts for these kind of instances? I have again modified the question. Please reopen the question — vehitha 4 mins ago

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Q: When to use nah or right in a sentence

When I was chatting with my friend, as a part of our conversation I used a phrase. "You have laptop nah." He replied, first try to change your English, it sounds ridiculous, using words nah, right. To give a brief insight of the context. Here is the conversation between me(A) and my friend(B). ...

word-choice grammaticality grammar questions

I have no patience for this day today.

3:53 PM

I now understand why SE hides IPs: we would all become quickly racist if we could group these people by continent of origin.

Native speakers are idiots, too.

Or at least, I know I would.

90% of everything is crap.

Yes, although the idiocy varies, and seems to clump.

Yeah. It looks like they decided to unload our 90% all on a single day.

3:54 PM

I knew a compsci grader who divided all incoming programs into three stacks: one Chinese, one Indian, and one for everybody else.

He got to read one program in each of the first two stacks, and then N in the last one.

The first two were obviously easier, since there was only one program per stack, multiply repeated.

Doubt about program in language Python. Why is that by C# grammar?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah, I know. Here's the issue. My company had an outside vendor set up a new CMS system, which we now have to support. But certain things don't initialize right on localhost on Windows, and the vendor is saying, "Well, you're using Windows. We can't help that it doesn't work on Windows."

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto haha WHAT?

Yup.

They're an all-Mac shop.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Boot a knoppix DVD then

Have you tried running it in Safari?

Safari for Windows is crap. But it's comparable to the Mac version.

4:00 PM

I'm running in Chrome, which is Webkit-based.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto well, it's a different branch of webkit

Doesn't work in Win/Safari either.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto it's simply broken then

Lots of 404s and 500s on resources.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So this CMS. are you trying to install a local instance of it?

4:03 PM

I have one installed. And it works on the test sandbox just fine.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto I guess I'm a bit confused about what you're installing where.

404s and 500s are usually an indication of a server problem

CQ5 executable .jar file on my local machine.

Technically the server doesn't matter, unless they have some shit hard-coded. And it's a mountain of code, so ...

@RegDwighт Migrate to Philosophy.SE.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

well..... the server is probably way more sensitive to the OS

@Robusto That tells you nothing useful. You need the real logs.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:06 PM

eg if there are filename issues... like case sensitivity problems or wrong path separator used, and the server isn't serving the files properly to the browser

I know.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

So I'd guess that if the server works on Linux and MacOS then they have a filename/path issue

But why wouldn't a call to http://localhost:4502/content/dam/global/twitter.png work the same irrespective of OS?

Different namei(9) resolution.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Because the server which serves up that png is broken

or misconfigured

4:08 PM

Get a real errno.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

and on a unixy OS it finds that png where it expects it, but on Windows it can't cope with the filesystem.

That will be the answer.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Does the server log anything?

Probably. I'm not sure where it does so yet. I just got this problem dumped in my lap this morning.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto So the server is an executable jar, and, presumably, a DB? or something? Some configuration somewhere?

4:11 PM

Executable jar. Not sure what all goes into it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Where does it put the content?

Good question.

Ah, found the logs. Hold on.

ERROR: [Thread[CM Event Dispatcher (Fire ConfigurationEvent: pid=org.apache.sling.jcr.resource.internal.JcrResourceReso
Impl),5,Configuration Admin Service]] Waited too long to acquire the global lock own by null; giving up.
ERROR: [Thread[CM Event Dispatcher (Fire ConfigurationEvent: pid=org.apache.sling.jcr.resource.internal.JcrResourceReso
Impl),5,Configuration Admin Service]] Waited too long to acquire the global lock own by Thread[OsgiInstallerImpl,5,main
p.
ERROR: [Thread[FelixDispatchQueue,5,main]] Waited too long to acquire the global lock own by Thread[OsgiInstallerImpl,5

This is BS.

I hate CMS and I hate third-party vendors. Need I say more?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

OSGI is, I think, a sort of component library system.

So I think your problem is earlier in the logs somewhere, in that your CMS isn't fully set up

I don't want to have to debug all this crap. I have work to do.

How the noun is my comment not constructive? Muh.

I'm just counting the minutes till going home and making something constructive with LEGO.

My prediction for MC of the day: unmaximized computer windows.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:25 PM

@RegDwighт minifigures.lego.com/en-us/…

In fact, it's already 18th.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 kills my Firefox, WTF.

@RegDwighт Those are all heavy, pretentious words. I wish we hadn’t gone there.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт oh, it uses Flash

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 here's one that doesn't. I promised.

brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=516449

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт Are those yours?

4:28 PM

Ayup. With instructions. And LDD files. And LDraw files. And making-of images.

The elephant ears finally arrived today, BTW. But obviously I already shopped them for the images.

@KitFox and @DavidWallace volunteered to be pinged as well.

I still fear that giving my nephews the LEGO stuff they’ve requested for Christmas is starting them down the path to an expensive lifetime addiction that will steal time away from video games.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт cool. I like the hippo and the goat the best

@tchrist better for their eyes. Same for their wallet. Also, not really a possibility if they are younger than 25ish. It's only beyond that age that people start really getting into it. You have to go through a Dark Age first.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 thank you. Going by the stats from Rebrickable, other people like the goat the least (((.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

here is the G+ gallery of the series 9 minifigs

user image

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 oh, so it's the Dr Jekyll series.

4:35 PM

I was already sternly forbidden from giving them a butterfly net when I accidentally mentioned that I once used such in my salad days as a budding psychopathic murderer of all things lepidopteral, as though I would still condone such things. I get a lot of stern forbiddings from their mother. I should probably not mention my own ideas.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I really need to build something with my lego. For the past 4 years I've built nearly nothing, ever since my daughter was born and disrupted my whole perfect existence.

My Pet Shop arrived today.

My first modular building, actually.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Reg ever since you mentioned your lego being on billy bookcases I've been obsessed with the idea of doing the same here. I've sourced some good plastic boxes which fit on the shelves. Now I need to convince people to buy them for me for Christmas.

Oh yeah.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I actually have so many lego kits that what I need now isn't more kits, it's more time to build

4:40 PM

I have like two dozen unopened, and a hundred opened and sorted, but never built.

Not to mention the B models and the C models and MOCs of course.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah I've nowhere near that much

Sorting takes so much time.

And it's costly, too, as you say.

I have those plastic boxes which it took me several months to find. I scouted all kinds of places before finding something suitable.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Not only does it take time, but I find myself falling into a time-sink of sorting whenever I try to build. As if I can't possibly start building unless everything is sorted and put away first.

cornbread ninja

:7104683

Fun Dip is a candy manufactured by The Willy Wonka Candy Company, a brand owned by Nestlé. The candy has been on the market in the United States and Canada since April 1942, and was originally called Lik-M-Aid. It was originally manufactured by Sunline, Inc, through their Sunmark Brands division, which was purchased by Nestlé in January 1989. The candy was then rebranded as Fun Dip, a brand change instituted by Jared Allen and Fredrick Nick, and added to the Willy Wonka product line. Fun Dip is similar to fellow Wonka product Pixy Stix, but sold in small pouches, rather than paper or pl...

And it's "just" 5 Euro per box, but I have 100+ boxes now. You do the math.

4:41 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What's a billy bookcase?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@DavidWallace it comes from ikea

It's a cheap particle-board bookcase that is actually really practical and, if you get the optional glass doors, actually looks pretty good.

The doors cost more than the bookcase

@cornbreadninja THank you. One more thing I can't buy here.

ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/83688210

Sorry, where does what go, Matt?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт wow, I just noticed they have a deep variant of billy. Hmmm... that means I can get longer boxes.

Matt Эллен

4:44 PM

@DavidWallace oh, the number in cornbread's message (7104683). I just wondered what it referenced

Prime factors are 137 and 51859.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't think I saw the deeper variant here. I was thinking about storing the boxes, um, widthwise instead of lengthwise, or whatever it's called. Then I'd have three piles fit on one shelf instead of two.

@MattЭллен I asked her a question. This Fun Dip stuff was the answer. It kind of came out of a conversation about yeast sachets in which I did not participate.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт I want to put doors on my billys. I already have some and it makes them look much nicer and more wife-acceptable. So I need boxes that fit inside the bookcase.

Bikeshed?

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Q: Is there another way of saying "I lost my train of thought"?

I am an ESL learning and I use the idiom "I lost my train of thought" quite often. Recently, I think that it is sort of redundant to use it several times when I talk to my friends. I am curious that is there any similar idiom or phrase that mean like "I lost my train of thought"?

4:47 PM

@Cerberus I think our yeast sachets here are 5g, not 7g, so if you ever want 5/7 of the amount that you have there, you could come and visit me.

Matt Эллен

@tchrist oh! that's a... what did you ask again?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I was going to take a photo for you anyway. Will pretty much have to now. Mine look neat enough without doors, the box columns look very orderly.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт These are the boxes I found. The smallest boxes fit on the shelf and the second-smallest fit along the short side.

But they're about $7 and $10 each

I see.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

And I think I basically need 30 small boxes and maybe 10 big ones

Matt Эллен

4:49 PM

@DavidWallace aye, I dove down the rabbit hole, then filled it in :D

I forgot what I was talking about.
I forgot what I was going to say.
Forgot what I was going to say.
I forgot what I was saying.
Forgot what I was saying.
Forgot, um, something.
Um, never mind.
Uh.
“–—”.

I think we should use lilac.

These, too, waste so much space by being sloped. I wonder why they do that. My boxes are orthogonal, but again, it took me forever to find them.

@RegDwighт The stacking is more robust that way, I think.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox yeah but they could just slope in the bottom inch

I suppose that's the idea. But it doesn't have to be sloped that much.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that.

4:51 PM

@MattЭллен However, I surely would have had I been present.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Anyway I haven't found many boxes that are cheap and will fit inside a closed billy bookcase

Sorry, I didn't see that Kit had already said that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

They should make them like campbell's soup cans

only square

Mine have exactly the right dimensions, too. They are exactly four bricks high, and the compartments are exactly six studs wide, or five bricks if stacked and stored on the side (fits pretty much any LEGO part with very few exceptions).

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт Those are pretty small then

much smaller than the boxes I am considering

4:55 PM

I have 666 closevote review points. Seems like I should stop reviewing.

Yup. Suits me fine.

Better that way, I think.

You can sort more flexibly.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 you will remember that I sort by part and color.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт As do I... to some extent

Yeah, I started to have boxes where I just pre-sort stuff, very roughly.

And then I started to have boxes where I sort it some more, by color, but still not properly by part.

So sorting is a three-step process now.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:56 PM

I have some parts sorted by part, and some just sorted by colour. And a box of parts I never, ever use... like tires.

:7110011 that depends, actually. System bricks by color, then by type. Technic by type, then color.

Bother. Why are all my remarks several seconds too late?

You live just too on-the-other-side.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

eg I have a bag of grey 2x4 bricks. And a bag of tan 2x4 bricks. And a bag of 2x1x6 bricks of any colour. And a little box of grey or black 2x1 plates, and another box of all the other 2x1 plates. And a bag of useful black parts, and a bag of useless black parts. And a bag of arches. And a bag of upwards slopes and a bag of downwards slopes. And a box of 1x1 bricks, but a separate box of 1x1 tan and grey bricks.

And all the minifigs and their accessories are in one box.

Those "useless" parts, I'll take them.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:59 PM

heheh I don't split up my kits. My collection is like a black hole. Parts go in but never leave. Except by Hawking Radiation.

I've thought of selling minifigs or rare parts to finance the growth of the collection, but I can't bear to do it. I've thought of buying kits with the intention of selling later, but I can't do it.

I am just saying, as someone who set out to have every part in every color, I can't really parse "useless".

If it's a part, it's a part.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

well, they are useless to me, in that I typically build, eg, Castle, and they are, eg, a space-ship canopy in neon green.

Unless you mean those 9000 times 9000 stud plane pieces.

You can keep those.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 oh those are rare now.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The baseplates?

In neon green, that is.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:01 PM

@RegDwighт Well, I'm not sure which I have. :)

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 no, plane as in aircraft.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

ah

yeah I have some airplane parts too. Not many. I also have a floating boat hull. Totally useless.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it doesn't matter. Neon green is Just Not Done™ these days.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The non-floating hulls are not useless.

@RegDwighт I have some space kits from the 80s and early 90s. Like the magnet ones... m-tron I think.

Right.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:02 PM

And a rocket-launcher kit that had a trans-gold canopy.

That was a great little kit.

It's in rough shape now.

Most pieces are worn and some are broken.

And the two little yellow spacemen are nearly disintegrated.

So far I have little use for canopies. None, actually. But I keep storing them away neatly anyway.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

broken hands, broken helmets, broken airtanks held on with two-sided tape...

@RegDwighт Yeah I rarely use them.

I think I have like one broken part. And LEGO replaced it.

But I gotta commute!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт All my broken parts are from my childhood. The grown-up me is sad about it, but the child-me was not sad at the time, because toys wore out and there were more spacemen where those came from. Or so it seemed.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah I have pretty much no toys left over from my childhood at all, and I watched after them real good!

Lators.

5:12 PM

@DavidWallace Yes, aeroplanes far more efficient than scales.

5:28 PM

english.stackexchange.com/questions/91705/partys-or-partyies

Voting to undelete (should be closed duplicate).

@MετάEd Um it is the OP's own deletion...

@Cerberus I realize that.

Duplicate links are good for helping visitors search out answers to questions. The OP may not understand that, but we do.

5:53 PM

I suppose.

It's always fascinating how a liquid can be turned into something stiff through whisking.

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