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dhein
dhein
5:16 AM
@avazula " If a post significantly misses something" I am with you on that. Also I am totally fine with putting questions on hold. My point is just about deleting otherwise totally fine answers that just are lacking back up. The point about the answer otherwise being fine shows the user having made them might potentially a nice asset to the community. And in such cases risking scaring them away by deleting their posts before they even could explain themself. Thats what is bothering me.
It true that this is how SE works. But the majority of the of the network has more straightforward ways to evaluate whats compliant with policy and what isn't, and especially we are the only platform where it is getting to such a personal level, what just adds to the sensitivity of users possibly feeling attacked.
@avazula Yeah, it does. Thanks for your response :)
@avazula I know that you wouldn't have done it if you had known before. So don't worry about it :)
 
 
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Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
7:18 AM
I know that can be bothersome, but take a look at our latest HNQ. An answer that yesterday was at -2 without back up (and could be reviewed/deleted by the community) is now at +3, and will need a mod to undelete once the community finally finishes reviewing it :/

Being quick might not be fun for new users, but at least it sends a good message: 'We have guidelines here and you don't meet them'.

Being slow will lead to users saying 'but people upvoted it!' and we'll have to explain that this was an effect of HNQ, not of their post being good in any way :/
 
dhein
dhein
@Tinkeringbell Huh, an interesting point, haven't seen it from that perspective. But still the posts I am talking about like old questions answered by new users, are unlikely if not impossible to ever hit HNQ again ^^ But yeah for the case of new posts to questions that possibly could hit HNQ but aren't in yet, I just changed my view.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
7:47 AM
@dhein Old questions answered by new users are likely to end up either in the 'late answer' or 'first post' queues. Either way, as soon as someone sees them there, they should take the appropriate moderation actions to avoid forgetting about it in the future ;)
This means putting stuff in the LQP if it's not meeting citation expectations. And we can't have our regular queue visitors there skipping reviews because the post is a new answer to an old question: There's not that many people reviewing (correctly), and they can't wait with reviewing the post either (because they can only review one post at a time).

So it's a bit of a conundrum where you can't really slow down moderation :/
 
dhein
dhein
8:04 AM
@Tinkeringbell true. But is this allways deleting it? :o
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@dhein Well, as soon as it's in the queue, people can (probably should) start delete voting, unless it's edited before it's entirely reviewed...
 
dhein
dhein
Hm... maybe I had not been understanding the problem then yet, cause I can't access the corresponding queue for it. But yeh I see the point.
I allways see it from an having to look for bad content by hand and take acording actions, having no access to the queues, made me forget about them exist and hence them requiring actions.
@Ælis: Say thanks to tinki. they just changed my perception of your moderation attitude :P
 

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