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dhein
dhein
8:32 AM
@avazula: To first respond to your question. No you actually didn't do anything wrong. I overreacted a little anyways. But still, this community is close to my heart and so I am taking my decision here very serious. And Mar's response to me asking for a "definite " response what I didn't ask for at all made my emotional trigger being armed, and then him claiming there can't be a more precise answer than "within 10 mins to 10 years" made me trigger >.< You joining him on that joke not making it better for me.
Anyways, getting back to my question:
 
dhein
dhein
8:44 AM
Ofcause I am not expecting a response along the lines "I will on average need/take 73~97 minutes to take an action". And in regards for the HNQ question, I am totally fine with taking immediate actions. But for the non HNQ case, My worries are about your response pretty much what Tinki was mentioning already. So I am also not here asking about the "obvious" cases. I am more worried about the not so obvious cases, where you were in the past quite quick on voting for deletition. And the time span I was asking about since you said "so in order for other people to see it, I would say it's about…
 
Ælis
Ælis
@dhein We had a similar discussion about this yesterday and you were worry because, right now, I tend to delete stuff very quickly. So, I just wanted to tell you that, as a mod and since my delete vote has "special power", I won't vote to delete answer unless the answer is rude or spam (or six people have recommend deletion in the case of a positive scored bad answer)
 
dhein
dhein
9:12 AM
@Ælis Thanks for your input :) six people having recommended it? You mean in form of flags, am I right? But in our discussion yesterday my point was also putting emphasis on my impression of you sometimes taking actions before having tried to get the viewpoint of the other person. But thanks for explicitly pointing this out. I will keep that in mind :)
 
Ælis
Ælis
9:41 AM
@dhein In form of "recommend deletion" in the review queue.
@dhein As for your second point, I never delete an answer or close a question without leaving a comment (but I do sometimes vote without leaving a comment if I know that more votes are needed before the question will be deleted). However, it is true that, if a comment is here asking for (for example) back up, I do vote to delete even if the user didn't had the time to answer the comment
 
 
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dhein
dhein
11:17 AM
@Ælis Yeah, and I am probably on your side with everything else here. But my personal impression here is that exactly this is a very critical thing we shouldn't do. At least for not very clear cases. But as I said already yesterday, you actually aren't doing wrong its just, my personal view that we shouldn't be that hasty with such cases.
 
 
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Em C
Em C
5:04 PM
@Ælis why 6? have you looked at the LQP queue history? it's quite rare that posts get that many, I think. what if you think someone reviewed it incorrectly?
(sorry, replied to wrong one at first)
 
Ælis
Ælis
5:40 PM
@EmC I thought there was some kind of rule about that. But, if I agree with the decision, I'm good with 5. For less, I would ask a fellow mod what they thought about it.
 
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
5:54 PM
@Ælis The 'rule' you're probably thinking of is that a post with a negative score and 6 'recommend deletions' from the LQP queue is deleted automatically ;)
That doesn't need a moderator. If a post is reviewed as recommend deletion unanimously but scoring positively, then a moderator is needed (and we get an automatic flag for that, so I guess your answer makes sense for how you would handle such a flag :P)
 
Ælis
Ælis
6:13 PM
@Tinkeringbell Thanks for the clarification. That was what I thought when I answered the question but EmC comment made me doubt and I also didn't think of the case were someone reviews it, find it ok and I disagree
 
Em C
Em C
6:35 PM
I see. Yeah, there are only rules about when we get an auto-flag, not so much for making decisions on what to do with them. That's part of the mod job, to handle situations where there are no set rules ;)
 
 
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avazula
avazula
10:39 PM
@dhein on deleting posts, I'm on the side of @Ælis and would rather let the community cast that fifth vote unless it is rude or abusive.
However, I would like to clarify something. I'd I understood correctly, you dislike the speed at which I and other regular users close/delete posts
I understand how getting their post closed or deleted may be triggering to people, but this is how SE works. If a post significantly misses something, then it must be put on hold until it is edited. Its not a punishment, it's a chance to gently edit without having to worry about it. I know some users may not know about it, which is why I currently remind them of this in comments when the post gets deleted and chances are they don't know a post may be undeleted/reopened
Hope this answers your question, please let me know if you'd like to discuss it further :)
And I'm sorry Mar's joke triggered you. I commented on that joke before knowing it got you triggered and I didn't want to offend you in any way.
 

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