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4:28 AM
@SimonPepinLehalleur Not sure, but I think Edoardo (Lanari), who is in this chat, will have a better answer for you than I do. None of the answers afaik are just drop-in theorems.

If I remember correctly, there's still some substantial amount of work necessary in order to justify the things written in that appendix. The main difference between now and, say, last year, is that all of the expected technical tools to do so are now firmly established.
 
 
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5:43 AM
@HarryGindi I think it's important to clarify that Gaitsgory and Rozenblyum do define a Gray tensor product, and their various unproved propositions concern this definition. Yuki has proved things about a differently defined Gray tensor product; Dom years ago gave yet another different definition. So until one of these definitions is shown to be equivalent to G&R's definition, we can't really say that G&R's unproved propositions have been proved.
(And of course there remain statements in G&R which have not been proven for any definition.)
 
6:00 AM
@AlexanderCampbell Yeah, that's sort of my point by 'none of them are afaik drop-in theorems'
actually proving all of the stuff in that appendix is the subject of a few papers or a small monograph
 
@HarryGindi Aye, we are in agreement.
 
and I mean a few papers or small monograph, taking already as input either Yuki's or Dom's construction of the tensor product
idk it's a bit unfortunate that whoever sits down and does all that work probably won't really ever get cited (one of the reasons why I thought I'd advertise Yuki's paper in here!!)
 
I'm glad you did! And of course we both know that the value of Yuki's work (and the work of Edoardo & co.) extends far beyond just assisting in cleaning up G&R.
 
Here's an interesting question that I had the other day
So it's a pretty immediate observation that the lax tensor product and its adjoints cannot be enriched functors
because ⊗ cannot associate with ×
Okay, so what structure do we really have on 2-Cat/(∞,2)-Cat
that we would want to be able to generalize to other '2-categories that behave like 2-Cat'
 
The Gray tensor product is at least functorial at the level of (∞,1)-categories.
 
6:11 AM
like, you could have a notion of lax,pseudo,and oplax 2-cells
yeah, I know that
But the reason I was thinking about this was something like ∞-cosmoi but ∞,2
 
I'm not finished ;)
 
oh, go on
 
And I expect it to be functorial at the level of (∞,2)-categories if we take icons as 2-cells.
But that's all I had to say, so please go on
 
Oh, well, I was just thinking if you wanted to sort of build an 'informal language of 2-categories', you need a few inputs, one of them being at least a notion of lax and oplax natural transformation
or sorry, an informal language of 2-Cat
so at some point I came up with this idea that you should have three separate Hom objects, all of which have the same vertices, but where each one gives you like a cotensoring by 2-Cat with each of its exponential structures, if that makes sense
here 2-Cat means ∞,2-Cat
 
6:16 AM
yeah, I was wondering if this has a name or has been worked out anywhere is all
also, have you thought at all about icons for ∞,2-Cats?
 
Rune at least has (see his latest preprint).
I don't think this has a name, and I haven't seen it worked out anywhere
The first thing that pops into mind is having an enrichment of the category of 2-categories over "intercategories" (à la Grandis-Paré). But I don't know if that would work out.
 
I remember seeing the term 'f-category' at one point
but it looked like only half of what I wanted
 
Yeah so there you have a 2-category-like structure which has two notions of 1-morphism, one contained in the other.
 
ah, I guess it's not really similar
oh, by the way, with icons, does one expect something like
 
Roughly speaking, a category enriched over intercategories would have 3 notions of 2-cell, which with any luck would behave like strict, lax, and oplax natural transformations. But you'd have to be very lucky for this to work, I think.
 
6:21 AM
the ∞,n-category of ∞,n-1-categories with 1-cells being functors, 2-cells being icons, 3-cells being modifications of icons, and so on?
 
Well, one gets an (∞,2)-category of (∞,2)-categories, functors, and icons.
Richard Garner and Nick Gurksi constructed a tricategory of tricategories, where the 2-cells and 3-cells and icon-like.
 
mhm, I don't really know where to place icons
are they a fundamental notion or a useful one
 
So extrapolating, maybe one should expect to get an (∞,n)-category of (∞,n)-categories with icon-like things in dimensions 2 and above?
I would say useful.
 
yeah that's what I was thinking
I dunno, it would be interesting to see what an expert has to say about how sort of all of the structure on 2-Cat fits together
 
If you consider the standard embedding of 2-categories into simplicial objects in Cat to be fundamental, then I guess icons are fundamental.
 
6:26 AM
because there is an absolute ton of structure compared to Cat
that seems like a double notion to me
is that wrong?
 
Not at all. Between double categories there is the standard notion of natural transformation; if we embed 2-categories into double categories in the easy way, these become icons.
I personally don't see all the baggage carried by 2-Cat as fitting into one cohesive whole.
 
Haha, me neither
as in, not that I don't want to see it or believe it's impossible, just that I definitely don't see it. =)
 
The first thing I want to see is an equipment (as in proarrow equipment) of (∞,2)-categories (and of V-enriched ∞-categories more generally). Of course this doesn't capture all the lax business, but it gives a great framework for doing a lot of enriched category theory.
We were discussing this at MSRI before our semester was rudely interrupted.
 
Keep me updated =)
 
 
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7:48 AM
Thanks everyone for the update on the situation. I guess the "GR saga" continues... And I certainly did not want to imply that $(\infty,2)$-category theory is all about justifying this damned Appendix; clearly it is a fundamental endeavour and it is great to see it progress.
 
 
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3:08 PM
The forgetful functor for algebras over a monad is faithful. Is there an analogous statement in the world of quasicategories?
 
A useful and easy (imho) analog is that the functor is conservative. I don't know anything about faithfulness so I will let the experts answer :)
 
yeah... I actually want something rather like faithfulness
not conservativity
in a form as simple as $Uf\simeq Ug$ implies $f\simeq g$ where U denotes the forgetful functor
 
3:26 PM
(Again, it is probably better to wait for experts, but my gut feeling is that this is false in general.)
 
3:46 PM
@BrunoStonek I don't think you can ask too much here. For example, connective spectra are monadic over spaces, but Map(HF_p,HF_p[1]) is disconnected whereas Map(K(F_p,0),K(F_p,1)) is connected.
Or for another example, any element of pi_n S for n>0 gives a map HF_p[n] -> HF_p[0] which is null as spectra but generally not null as modules over the endomorphism spectrum of HF_p.
 
 
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5:46 PM
@WilliamBalderrama: that was very useful. thanks
 
 
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9:33 PM
@S.carmeli Ok, I got it now. Thank you for all your help!
 

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