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Martin Sleziak
Martin Sleziak
7:42 AM
@MartinSleziak That room was frozen after 7 days with no activity. chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118125/2021/1/17
 
 
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Martin Sleziak
Martin Sleziak
9:39 PM
@SamHopkins Concerning the link to Mathematics, we should keep in mind that some MO users are against sending people there. (E.g., see the opening paragraph of this question: Homework and migrating to math.se.) The FAQ post here on meta and the help-center currently link a to list which mentions also other websites. — Martin Sleziak Jan 5 at 8:56
@MartinSleziak For example I am reluctant to sending people to math.SE because I'm not active there and I'm unfamiliar with what kind of questions are on topic there. Sending someone to another place where their questions are off-topic feels like the summit of unwelcomeness to me. — Denis Nardin 18 mins ago
@DenisNardin Still, in practice any question which gets closed on MO as being low-level sends a user to other sites. There are two standard close reasons, one of them explicitly mentions Mathematics, the other one links to the help center - and if the user follows that link, they get among other things this link - I have used the same one in my proposal below. — Martin Sleziak 4 mins ago
As a side note, I have already mentioned in a previous comment that some MO users do not like sending people to Mathematics. (And added a link to the relevant discussion and some other related stuff.) — Martin Sleziak 3 mins ago
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A: My question was closed on MO because it is not research level. Where should I ask instead?

Martin SleziakMost sites are staffed by (unpaid) volunteers who expect questions with the intent, format, and content such that they can process the question for the site properly. You should look at the site information and change your question accordingly to raise the odds of it being accepted by that site. ...

Here is link to the current revision.
About Mathematics it says:
> Mathematics Stack Exchange - if you are used to Stack Exchange platform, this is a site in this network which is for general mathematical question - as opposed to MathOverflow which caters to research-level questions only. Before asking on that site it might be useful to look a bit at their help center.
> You can find also a useful tips in the guide on How to ask a good question. And if you already have sufficient reputation in Stack Exchange Network to talk in chat, you could also ask for assistance with your question in one of [the site's chatrooms]
So it explicitly points out the help center and also the FAQ post: How to ask a good question.
@DenisNardin When I read the above text, to me that sounds more like this: "This is a place where the question might be suitable. And here are links describing how to ask there."
So it isn't really: "Sending someone to another place where their questions are off-topic". It's more like: "Sending someone to another place with a suggestion to check whether the question would be suitable there."
Of course, there is no doubt that the text in the linked post can be improved. The post is CW - if you happen to have some time, please go ahead and edit it to a better form.
As I said, this is the link where user gets if they read the help center after the closure. When I check some posts which you voted to close (SEDE, several of them has the close reason which links to the help center.
 
Denis Nardin
Denis Nardin
10:28 PM
I'm not saying that it's always evil to send people to math.SE, I'm just saying that I'm personally uncomfortable in doing so (I also never use the close reason mentioning math.SE, for the same reason)
I've seen people reflexively recommend math.SE for questions that I'm quite sure are unsuitable there, and I know enough about that site to know that I'm not able to provide enough guidance to shape a question as on-topic
That said, if I saw a question that seems to me obviously suitable for math.SE I mention it, but I tend to do so quite rarely because I do not trust my judgement
 
Martin Sleziak
Martin Sleziak
Yes, I was mainly pointing out that the close reason which you have used also sends people to Mathematics - but indirectly. They learn about that site if they follow the link included in the close reason.
 
Denis Nardin
Denis Nardin
I'm fine with it, because if they get that link it means they've at least read the help center
 
Martin Sleziak
Martin Sleziak
Personally, of the two close reasons, I usually choose: "This question does not appear to be about research level mathematics within the scope defined in the help center."
And sometimes, if I have time, I mention in comments something about Mathematics (especially if it was already mentioned), such as searching, FAQ on good questions, etc.
For example, something like here: mathoverflow.net/questions/379888/…
Anyway, if you have some alternative suggestion for the modal window, I will be glad if you post an answer here: Customize the modal window for the first-time askers. And, as I said, this Q&A is CW, any improvements are more than welcome: My question was closed on MO because it is not research level. Where should I ask instead?
 

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