The Renderfarm

NoviceInDisguise

12:00 AM

@David

TARDIS Maker

12:11 AM

Andrew Kramar is really entertaining to listen to

NoviceInDisguise

Very

What you listening to now?

TARDIS Maker

I just watched his shockwave tutorial

NoviceInDisguise

Ah! That was a cool one

TARDIS Maker

I just started his portal one

@NoviceInDisguise Yeah

someone tried to do it with Blender

It was a cool tutorial, but the result wasn't very good

David

@NoviceInDisguise nice. (@X-27 would like it)

NoviceInDisguise

12:21 AM

@TARDISMaker Not the best, no. I saw that tutorial too.

TARDIS Maker

@NoviceInDisguise The biggest problem, I think, was that we don't really have a nice noise generator in Blender, and our compositor isn't built for that type of thing

NoviceInDisguise

Yeah

He was using AE, right?

TARDIS Maker

@NoviceInDisguise Andrew?

Or coarse

David

@TARDISMaker he did one tut in nuke

TARDIS Maker

@David Which one?

I remember his Optical Flares plugin works in NUKE, and he worked a bit in it to promote it

NoviceInDisguise

12:24 AM

The burning building one was disappointing, it looked like crap. The fire was nice, but the rotoscope around the character was noisy and sharp

TARDIS Maker

@NoviceInDisguise The city destruction one?

I don't remember a character in that

NoviceInDisguise

@TARDISMaker no

TARDIS Maker

Do you mean the Train Explosion one?

NoviceInDisguise

no

David

https://vimeo.com/62482403

In this tutorial I’ll demonstrate the basic setup of the plug-in and mostly pretend like I know what I’m doing inside of Nuke.

I think I’ll just stick to After Effects tutorials

NoviceInDisguise

12:27 AM

lol

Borgleader

@David Lens flares ಠ_ಠ

TARDIS Maker

I'm just going to color correct this to look like New York, cause apparently New York always has this color correction

NoviceInDisguise

lol

Borgleader

I'm watching Cosmos Laundromat

its so beautiful

holy crap

NoviceInDisguise

Not bad eh?

David

12:40 AM

@Borgleader when you are done watch this:

23 hours ago, by David

Cosmos Laundromat - Second Cycle

NoviceInDisguise

The F***ing Hooves part was unecessary

gandalf3

Honestly I don't think I would've even heard it if no one had mentioned it.

Borgleader

I barely noticed

I actually thought it was funny

NoviceInDisguise

Really?

Borgleader

Tying a rope with hooves must be really annoying

NoviceInDisguise

12:41 AM

It stuck out like crazy to GCF and I

@Borgleader yeah but . . .

Borgleader

This First Cycle

was rendered with Cycles yes?

gandalf3

yes

NoviceInDisguise

yep

Borgleader

I thought the lighting was just so much better in this one

or maybe idk

gandalf3

Compared to?

Borgleader

12:43 AM

well the previous film projects

gandalf3

ah

ToS was also cycles IIRC

Borgleader

ToS is VFX

When I say CG I mean Pixar full computer generated movie

gandalf3

I see

Still, there was a lot of CG in it

Like, almost everything except the actors

Borgleader

yeah but it was layered on top of live action stuff

TARDIS Maker

Yeah, as in almost entirely CG

Except for the characters

gandalf3

12:45 AM

:P

Borgleader

Also its stylistically very different from all the other ones, I found

TARDIS Maker

I did not mean to do that :)

@Borgleader What would you expect, though?

It's supposed to be as realistic as possible, while the others are supposed to be cartoony

Borgleader

@TARDISMaker all the other ones have a cartoony feel to them, but ToS having real actors had to be more realistic (despite the sci-fi ness) so I dont want to compare it to the other films :)

you made my point for me :)

TARDIS Maker

Okay :)

NoviceInDisguise

Big Buck Bunny, now THAT was a realistic film!

:P

TARDIS Maker

12:47 AM

@NoviceInDisguise Just look at the hair!

GiantCowFilms

I like this trend of Rendering animated films in a more realistic way

NoviceInDisguise

@TARDISMaker lol

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Yeah, and making it the animation and the modeling that stylizes it.

NoviceInDisguise

@GiantCowFilms It is interesting indeed. Makes it harder for startups to get flying though

TARDIS Maker

It's a lot like pixars style

GiantCowFilms

12:48 AM

@NoviceInDisguise I don't know about that

NoviceInDisguise

Rendering

for months

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Internal wasn't super fast

NoviceInDisguise

or even years

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise That is nothing close the labor

TARDIS Maker

@GiantCowFilms Especially once you want reflections

GiantCowFilms

12:48 AM

Paying 15 people a years wage is easily a million dollars

@TARDISMaker Yes

NoviceInDisguise

@GiantCowFilms Compared to Cycles with thousands of hair particles it is lightning fast

@GiantCowFilms Yeah . . .

GiantCowFilms

Quite frankly I think that you could build a machine for cycles and one for internal that would be very different in nature but have similar price tags an performance

NoviceInDisguise

Startup studios don't generally fork out that much cash even to "employees"

@GiantCowFilms Possibly

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Still, you have to feed them

NoviceInDisguise

o.O

What if they are college kids?!

GiantCowFilms

12:50 AM

Well they can't starve

NoviceInDisguise

Ramen

That is the solution

All new, fledgling studios, take note: Ramen

GiantCowFilms

Good name for a fledgling studio too...

NoviceInDisguise

lol

I am trying to figure out how to rig a Bicycle wheel to make it more customizable

GiantCowFilms

How so?

NoviceInDisguise

I know how to model it well for the base, but rigging it is interesting

GiantCowFilms

12:52 AM

What exactly do you mean?

"customizeable"

NoviceInDisguise

Basically change the number of treads, width, diameter, etc

GiantCowFilms

Ah, tires are a pain....

NoviceInDisguise

Yeah

GiantCowFilms

But I have done that before

NoviceInDisguise

Can you give any hints?

GiantCowFilms

12:53 AM

A totally editable spoke pattern might be a little challengling

@NoviceInDisguise Which parts

NoviceInDisguise

Any :P

TARDIS Maker

AE WORLD: Andrew Kramer Keynote Speech (FULL)

►

Watching this now

NoviceInDisguise

Ah!

GiantCowFilms

@TARDISMaker That was brilliant

NoviceInDisguise

I might need to watch it too

TARDIS Maker

12:53 AM

@GiantCowFilms Yes

I remember watching it a year ago

NoviceInDisguise

Here goes . . .

TARDIS Maker

He is an amazing speaker

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise The trick is to figure out what parameters you wan't, in then what the value of the modifier inputs are in terms of those paramaters

Its math/programming really

NoviceInDisguise

ok

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Do you think you could share you current file with me?

And I can see what I can do for it?

NoviceInDisguise

12:55 AM

@TARDISMaker Already brilliant XD

@GiantCowFilms Umm . . . sure

TARDIS Maker

@NoviceInDisguise Yeah

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Okay? pasteall?

TARDIS Maker

I was like one or two minutes in when I decided that

NoviceInDisguise

Exact same here

TARDIS Maker

That's also when I posted it

NoviceInDisguise

12:59 AM

@GiantCowFilms pasteall.org/blend/37614

GiantCowFilms

I can't get rid of the render border???

nvm

NoviceInDisguise

Sorry :P

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise So what do you wan't to customize?

NoviceInDisguise

@GiantCowFilms Wheel tread number, width, depression, number of spokes, etc

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Okay

Starting with spokes, since they are the easy game :D

NoviceInDisguise

1:11 AM

:D

GiantCowFilms

You don't mind a couple of extra empties?

NoviceInDisguise

Nope

That video just gets better and better

GiantCowFilms

Okay got the spokes working

not entirely though

I have to do the center spokes...

@NoviceInDisguise Do you want the center spokes to always be one more then the outside spokes?

or do you want the values to be independednt

NoviceInDisguise

@GiantCowFilms ??

GiantCowFilms

There are spokes that attach to the inside of the little disk around the axel and ones that attack to the outside....

NoviceInDisguise

1:21 AM

There should always be the same number

GiantCowFilms

Okay

TARDIS Maker

@NoviceInDisguise That last part didn't happen, well, actually the entire story is made up.

NoviceInDisguise

XD That cracked me up

TARDIS Maker

I think Andrew Kramar could easily be a comedien if he one day woke up and decided that he hated VFX

NoviceInDisguise

lol

gandalf3

1:28 AM

lol

BTW, @GiantCowFilms You might want to have a look at this if you haven't already

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Yah, don't move things

@NoviceInDisguise How did you copy the spokes across the wheel, do you rerember the transform

I mean the oustide spokes, left and right side

NoviceInDisguise

Alt+D, 22.5 degrees

@GiantCowFilms Oh wait

GiantCowFilms

Yah

Its trickier then that

NoviceInDisguise

I rotated by 180* on the Z axis I think.

Or do you mean the inside out part for one side?

GiantCowFilms

Okay

NoviceInDisguise

1:36 AM

If that is what you mean, you need to run teh spokes in sets of two as they are different

GiantCowFilms

Huh?

How are they differnt

NoviceInDisguise

There are two sides, and then half on each side are inverted, however they are slightly different

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise Ah yes

that is not my issue

NoviceInDisguise

ok . . .

GiantCowFilms

my issue is inverting them across the entire wheel

So it was R z 180 then (360/Spoke_Count/2)

NoviceInDisguise

1:39 AM

um

That is a spoke set

It is rotated 180* on the Z axis to populate the opposite side

GiantCowFilms

Note quite

Anyway, I have the outside spokes working

TARDIS Maker

Star Trek Into Darkness Title Design

►

That is pretty great too

Not as awesome, but it's still pretty entertaining

GiantCowFilms

@NoviceInDisguise I have to go for a little bit, I will finish afterwards.

I have however, gotten the spokes working

NoviceInDisguise

Cool! Thanks :D

GiantCowFilms

However it only works for even numbers...

I will fix that after supper too

NoviceInDisguise

1:48 AM

That is fine

GiantCowFilms

I will share it with you momentarily

Pasteall put up a fight

blend-exchange.giantcowfilms.com/b/421

GiantCowFilms

2:07 AM

@NoviceInDisguise Oh BTW, you change the spoke count with the Spokes custom property

Few other bugs

Radish of the Opera

3:10 AM

@GiantCowFilms how do i format render.drawLine again?

Some hours later...

pasteall.org/blend/37615

gandalf3

8:03 AM

yay I wrote some documentation

David

1:19 PM

@gandalf3 link

NoviceInDisguise

2:38 PM

Filename: AwCrap.PNG

GiantCowFilms

3:09 PM

@NoviceInDisguise Your wheel is quite tricky :D

Getting the spokes into the right pattern is harder then I thought, nearly there though

NoviceInDisguise

:D

GiantCowFilms

3:21 PM

This pattern

the way the spokes bend might have to be based on the count O:

this will be hard

NoviceInDisguise

hmm

BTW, the error was caused by overloading my GPU with a massive background image in live rendering mode

X-27

4:16 PM

HI EVERYBODY!!!!!

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Q: Funny Questions

NEW CONTEST - FUNNY QUESTIONS - The rules of this contest are simple Write a funny question as an answer to this post. Put the title of that question following a #. You may use plays on words, you may make fun of noobs, regular users, or smart users. You may pretty much use any method you want...

3

NoviceInDisguise

lol

X-27

We need lots of entrees, contests have been highly disappointing before!

(star the link to that post)

NoviceInDisguise

Ah right

X-27

gandalf3 @David @iKlsR I don't care who does it, but that post needs to be featured.

TARDIS Maker

4:32 PM

@gandalf3 Cycles?

NoviceInDisguise

5:08 PM

0

A: Funny Questions

Noob Problem!! My blender isn't rendering! i have been trying to render gravel in my blender, and i can't figure out how to do it :P i tried clicking the button with my mouse, but that just turned on setting 7, which is pulse, and crashed windows D: i loaded it on my desktop and everything!!!! m...

So much fun to release all the uber noobness that has been building up . . .

TARDIS Maker

@NoviceInDisguise Just wait until you see mine :)

NoviceInDisguise

lol

I will probably make another at some point

TARDIS Maker

btw, yours is too well formatted

NoviceInDisguise

Oh dear!!!

TARDIS Maker

It needs more typos :)

NoviceInDisguise

5:09 PM

true

I don't have much experience with them :P

@TARDISMaker Fixed

XD

oh man that is bad

oh wow

David

LOL stupid question contest!

NoviceInDisguise

:D

TARDIS Maker

@NoviceInDisguise Nice! :D

David

I expect that this will get lots of attention/entries.

NoviceInDisguise

?

What are you doing?

X-27

5:21 PM

Why can't I ping myself????

@nov

NoviceInDisguise

It doesn't work

You aren't allowed to

X-27

@novic

David

@NoviceInDisguise yes you can

NoviceInDisguise

?

X-27

It does work, watch

David

5:22 PM

watch

X-27

@X-27 :-)

David

@David This just pinged me

@NoviceInDisguise see

NoviceInDisguise

@NoviceInDisguise If you hack it it works

X-27

yah :-)

NoviceInDisguise

You just need the message number

David

5:24 PM

@NoviceInDisguise exactly

X-27

@X-27 test

NoviceInDisguise

_

hehehehe

Precisely what I did

works too

5:25 PM

@NoviceInDisguise This is the one I pinged to, I just tried to do another message without looking it up

@NoviceInDisguise @nov

Why don't it highlight?

TARDIS Maker

@NoviceInDisguise meta.blender.stackexchange.com/a/832/8262

David

0

A: Funny Questions

Need Help FAST: Blender problem I'm trying to make an awesome sifi movie and I'm at this part where the bad guy shoots a gun (It is just a fake plastic nerf gun from walmart, but I hope that after vfx it will look COOL! I'm having my friend's older brother's baseball coach's uncle do the audio i...

that was FUN to write!

gandalf3

5:42 PM

@David developer.blender.org/D1471 and developer.blender.org/D1472

@TARDISMaker No, smoke sim

The cycles docs are probably in the best shape, lots of other parts are a dire mess

David

@gandalf3 Nice!

@gandalf3 now I feel bad, while you were off writing blender docs, this is what we were writing.

TARDIS Maker

I like that my question is the only one that wasn't upvoted by me, yet they all have 1 UV

David

@TARDISMaker you UVed all of them?

TARDIS Maker

@David Yeah

I'm surprised no one has joined me

David

so you really like dumb noob ness

:)

TARDIS Maker

5:51 PM

1

A: Funny Questions

i wanting to 3d print a big robot type thing that looks a bit like pizza it's for a movie i making was asking everybody i knew about what i could use to 3D print my big robot type thing that looks like pizza (mbryyyllp for short). My brother told me about Blender, so I decided to download it and ...

:)

It's fun to make fun of

David

@TARDISMaker hey do suppose that my OP could print a bullet?

TARDIS Maker

@David OP as in Original Post?

If you wrote it in C it should

You might need a 3D printing though

David

@TARDISMaker yep well (Original Poster) as in the guy who asked the question.

@TARDISMaker hmm no he wrote it in english

TARDIS Maker

ah, okay

Probalby not, but I hear the University of Africa has a program on translating English into Python, which can then be translated into C

David

@X-27 can I add another "answer" to your contest?

NoviceInDisguise

6:01 PM

Of course! The more the merrier!

TARDIS Maker

6:13 PM

I have a feeling that we're all going to make multiple ones

I think I will

I just need to know what I'm going to do

wuden

Hi

TARDIS Maker

@wuden Hi

@David Nice!

1

A: Funny Questions

What kind of program cuts off the head of its monkey? HI, I'm not new to blender, but I have no idea what I'm doing. I started blender because it appeared to be the only 3D program that included a prebuilt monkey. WHERE IS THE MONKEY??? I have only found the monkey's head in my program. yet I...

NoviceInDisguise

XD

SLAM @ikLsR

wuden

I've applied subdivision surface.. there is nothing I can do now right?

realised that I don't need that

NoviceInDisguise

?

TARDIS Maker

6:23 PM

@wuden Try CTRL Z

wuden

the problem is that I did that 2 months ago

TARDIS Maker

If that doesn't work, try the decimate modifer set to unsubdivide, if that doesn't work, it's hopefless

NoviceInDisguise

@wuden Oh yes. Ctrl+Z or a Decimate modifier set to unsubdivide

lol

We both were thinking the same thing

TARDIS Maker

@wuden Probably hopeless then

wuden

I'll try

TARDIS Maker

6:24 PM

@NoviceInDisguise Yeah :)

I just wish the unsubdivide worked better.

It seems to work less that half of the time

NoviceInDisguise

yeah, it can give some very interesting results

TARDIS Maker

@wuden This is one of the reasons why you usually want a backup model without it applied on a trash layer

wuden

subdividing is bad only because it makes too many faces?

TARDIS Maker

Also, do you have any backup saves from before you applied it?

@wuden subdividing is great, but it can make the geometry hard to work with if you apply it, or apply it at the wrong time

wuden

nothing

TARDIS Maker

6:27 PM

It can make it nearly impossible to unwrap effectively (at least from my experience)

wuden

so if i want to change only a little things its not that horrible?

TARDIS Maker

@wuden It's just going to be harder to work with, and possibly less smooth

wuden

I'm so mad right now :D

Jonathan

hi peeps

TARDIS Maker

The more verts you have, the harder it will be to smooth it properly

@Jonathan Hi

@wuden :D

Jonathan

6:28 PM

you guys talkin bout uv unwrapping?

TARDIS Maker

@Jonathan No, subserf

Jonathan

I just noticed: When you uv unwrap only some faces of a mesh (faces A) and put them in one uv map there is only these faces. When you want a UV map for other faces (faces B) the new uv map always has faces A and faces B while the first UV map only has faces A.

NoviceInDisguise

Depends

Jonathan

@NoviceInDisguise On what exactly?

@NoviceInDisguise Oh you were responding to Tardis probably

NoviceInDisguise

I'm not sure, but I have done it before

Jonathan

6:39 PM

@NoviceInDisguise so that the second uv map only has the second faces?

NoviceInDisguise

Yeah

wuden

megafileupload.com/dn5o/giraffe.blend

somebody check it and tell me how hopeless it is

David

@NoviceInDisguise not as bad as that, I was merely sighting the source for that quote.

NoviceInDisguise

lol, ok

gandalf3

@David lol

Jonathan

6:42 PM

@David hi David, are you that David Rosen?

@David someone once posted a video from a david rosen explaining procedural animation under one of my questions

David

@Jonathan never heard of him (so I highly doubt it)

Jonathan

@David aight ^^

wuden

anybody has seen my project file?

Jonathan

@wuden did you sculpt it yourself?

wuden

yeah

textures are so bad

i wanted to fix this thing because it all looks so wrong

Jonathan

6:54 PM

giraffe fur on the tongue ^^

wuden

but that subdivision modifier destroyed my hopes

Jonathan

I actually like it, I find it does look pretty good

wuden

I had problems with mark seems and all that

Jonathan

just 1 thing, I dunno about giraffe anatomy so much, but its chest looks a little bit too bulgy

but seriously it looks pretty damn fine

wuden

I know it's not good

also u might ask about short neck

but thats the idea

anyway, should I try to fix it or create a new one?

NoviceInDisguise

6:57 PM

It might be best to start over, keeping the other for reference on what you did right/wrong

Jonathan

@wuden nah why create a new one?

@wuden there's nothing about it which you couldnt fix

maybe you just need some more texturing skills

wuden

somebody said that subdivision surface will affect unwraping

Jonathan

like how to use the texture paint slots

is it bad to effect unwrapping? did you use a tiled texture for the fur?

wuden

i know its my first thing done with blender ever

Jonathan

well you can still save it and redo the texturing fast and easy

if its just about effecting the unwrapping everything you have to do again would be the texturing

wuden

7:00 PM

I wish u were lithuanians so I could explain everything easily :D

Jonathan

I dont actually understand how there is texture everywhere because the uv map parts are not on the picture ^^

TARDIS Maker

@wuden That was me

It still works, it's just harder to work with

wuden

tu lietuvis? :D

Jonathan

btw wuden the subsurface modifier does not effect the uv map parts that much

it just makes them a little bit rounder

@wuden so do you actually want it to be more or less polygons?

wuden

I think being rounder for animal is great :D

Jonathan

7:07 PM

yes probably :)

so however you can actually bake the textures to another version of the model, if you make it higher or less in polygons doesnt matter that much I guess: youtube.com/watch?v=eeFnPg4YRbE

and if you like want to use it for a video game you can make a high poly version of it and then bake it to a normal map, then use the normal map on the low poly version to fake higher polygon amount: youtube.com/watch?v=ApzVWuPa4A4

gandalf3

7:29 PM

yay the documentation I made is now live

TARDIS Maker

@gandalf3 Nice!

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