The Renderfarm

GiantCowFilms

7:00 PM

@someonewithpc I assume you celebrated Halloween <jk> :P

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms Yeah, I was wondering about whether I should do that.

GiantCowFilms

although, you might do the day of the dead (same time?) in Portugal, I don't know how much culture crossover from spain there is though...

@Gwenn Do it. The raven is hardly visible

and its not cheating

(if that is bothering you)

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms Yes.... Clearly

GiantCowFilms

@someonewithpc But do you have a public holiday where it is kosher to stuff your face full of candy?

someonewithpc

I did "celebrate" theall Saints' day

All Saints' Day

All Saints' Day, also known as All Hallows, Day of All the Saints, Solemnity of All Saints, or Feast of All Saints is a solemnity celebrated on 1 November by the Roman Catholic Church of Latin rite and various Protestant denominations, and on the first Sunday after Pentecost in Eastern Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, in honour of all the saints, known and unknown. The liturgical celebration begins at Vespers on the evening of 31 October and ends at the close of 1 November. It is thus the day before All Souls' Day. Hallowmas is another term for the feast, and was used by Shakespeare in this sense...

@GiantCowFilms And dress in funny costumes?

Carnival

GiantCowFilms

7:05 PM

Ah

@someonewithpc annual event?

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms Yeah

@GiantCowFilms Again, "celebrate"

GiantCowFilms

Nation wide or local....

@someonewithpc why the quotes?

someonewithpc

Mostly hanging arround a giant fireplace

GiantCowFilms

Ah

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms I think most-of-Europe-wide

GiantCowFilms

7:08 PM

I was about the same the Halloween. it Rained so we got 5 trick-or-treaters (kids who ask for candy, if you didn't know [but I think you do?]). As a result I think I made a couple fat(er).

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms Given that I'm not christian anymore...

GiantCowFilms

@someonewithpc ah

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms Of course I know that...

Lol

GiantCowFilms

:D

someonewithpc

Fat(er)

Stupid shift is about the same size as enter

GiantCowFilms

7:10 PM

Yeah

same here

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms So, waht have you been up to?

GiantCowFilms

@someonewithpc Um...

I became a licensed radio amature

someonewithpc

Sitting around eating candy, for one

GiantCowFilms

and am doing school

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms Oooh! Where can I listen?

GiantCowFilms

7:14 PM

@someonewithpc No, I only ate one candy

@someonewithpc I cannot reach you from here

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms So, not online... Bummer

GiantCowFilms

I will need a good HF antenna for that, and they are massive

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms Have you heard of like, Soundcloud

Or similar?

GiantCowFilms

@someonewithpc well you can listen to a local reapeter I can reach, which you can listen to online

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms So what do you do in it?

GiantCowFilms

7:19 PM

@someonewithpc That is for normal audio

@someonewithpc ?

depends who you are talking to

the local repeater in this case holds scheduled nets, in which a bunch of people give reports on their life and stuff

You can also talk directly

My grandfather (who actually had HF antennas) made friends all around the world. Some of them were quite interesting

One lived in a tiny hut and would have to have his wife position his antenna by hand with a crank (everyone had motors by then). He also had a wood stove, and all his wife wanted was a microwave oven.

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms That seems kinda sad...

GiantCowFilms

@someonewithpc Turns out the guy was worth hundreds of millions and owned a boat load of waterfront hotels and casinos

someonewithpc

@GiantCowFilms Plot Twist!

Then why. .. Like...

GiantCowFilms

dunno

Still blows my mind. I mean that guys was RICH

As in one of the tycoons of Australia

someonewithpc

Maybe he just really liked it

GiantCowFilms

7:25 PM

yeah, I think so...

...odd still

his wife did eventually get her microwave... she was so happy.

someonewithpc

Lol

GiantCowFilms

shame

as I said, he had a lot of odd friends

As a rule radio amateurs were a little odd

my grandfather included...

anyway, cya later, @someonewithpc

someonewithpc

Cya

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 BTW, you probably should read the discussion about the BN header, or I can give you a summary (it is hard to follow)

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

7:42 PM

nobody home?

Gwenn

I'm here, on and off.

someonewithpc

No, no one

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol

gandalf3

8:12 PM

@GiantCowFilms Unfortunately not.. I do have a Suzanne though.

;)

someonewithpc

8:28 PM

Did anyone see the new short?

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Where?

@someonewithpc glass half?

someonewithpc

Youtubes

Blender Institute channel

@gandalf3 Yes

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 not what?

someonewithpc

It's really good

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Where does it start, or where is the summary?

gandalf3

8:29 PM

@GiantCowFilms Not a suzzane..

GiantCowFilms

Ah

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Where is it :P (I looked on the meta post, but didn't see anything)

GiantCowFilms

A Suzanne

Suzanne

gandalf3

indeed

GiantCowFilms

(okay, that should stick for about an hour)

@gandalf3 Its in chat....

gandalf3

8:30 PM

o

someonewithpc

What is this suzzane your taking about?

gandalf3

not sure

But it's not a Suzanne

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Lemme just give you a summary, it is quite a long conversation

someonewithpc

Oh, good

gandalf3

k

@GiantCowFilms What seems to be the issue?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

8:31 PM

Glass Half is awful

gandalf3

what

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ why?

someonewithpc

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ WHAT?

It's awesome

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

. . .

Absolutely not my style

As in polar opposite

GiantCowFilms

1st issue is the judging. @David says the Mods have final call on the winner, but since mods (liked @David) will be entering, I'm objecting, since I don't want to put a bunch of work in just to lose because one person's personally interests and tastes were else where.

So there are two solutions:

gandalf3

It was rendered in the viewport (opengl render)

GiantCowFilms

8:32 PM

Community Voting

and Bart Chooses the Image

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@gandalf3 nice. It is still bad

gandalf3

...

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ It's funny because that's what it was about :P

someonewithpc

And it gets the point across, despite the "language"

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@gandalf3 I know

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 the other thing on hand is I'm calling up volunteers to work on my idea for the image, since it will take ALOT of labor

gandalf3

8:34 PM

@GiantCowFilms Sounds fair, but how do you plan on voting and having someone pick?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@someonewithpc Why did it take them so long to make it though?

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 two (different) solutions

someonewithpc

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Don't ask me

I don't know...

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

The trailer (which really made no sense and turned me off completely) came out a while ago :P

someonewithpc

I didn't even know they were making it

GiantCowFilms

8:35 PM

BTW, @Gwenn said early posts will win with voting, so I suggested that we have a fairly narrow window for actual submission postings

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

hmmm

GiantCowFilms

which should fix that

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

yeah

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ If you're not there at the time, other people can help

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

ok

We might team up too

GiantCowFilms

8:36 PM

Yes

gandalf3

Instead of a narrow posting window, what about a wide voting window?

GiantCowFilms

I'm calling an open draft for my project

@gandalf3 Votes trickle in over months

gandalf3

yeeess

someonewithpc

@gandalf3 The wide voting window seems to be the problem

GiantCowFilms

And early votes tend to sway peoples choices

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

8:36 PM

yeah

GiantCowFilms

'cause if one has 10 votes, its on top

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

exactly

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 how about both

that should be bullet proof

gandalf3

I suppose

someonewithpc

And some people don't even scroll down

gandalf3

8:37 PM

But even when they all have the same score one will be on top

GiantCowFilms

Of course I'm fine with mods having veto power (naturally) although I think the votes would fix anything bad anyway

@gandalf3 True, but that isn't as serious

gandalf3

Honestly I feel like this contest might be being taken a little too seriously :P

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Well the thing is I don't want contestents making choices

'cause I have an idea that I like, but it will take alot of work

(from multiple people)

gandalf3

I can't speak for @David, but I got the sense that the fine print was mostly a joke

GiantCowFilms

Then @David should have said that when we pressured him

gandalf3

8:39 PM

hm..

GiantCowFilms

He also didn't put a wining criteria or anything

Take note of how the weekly competitions instructions and rules were assembled...

gandalf3

IMO having lots of rules and stuff shouldn't be important. I like the idea of a more open "just have fun" kind of contest

Post awesome stuff and people will like it

GiantCowFilms

Ehhh....

I somehow don't feel like I'm over stressing....

someonewithpc

You should

gandalf3

The important thing is that you enjoy making awesome stuff

GiantCowFilms

8:43 PM

My instinct says something is a bit odd

@gandalf3 But I have an anxiety disorder... rules let me have fun and sleep easy :P

Anyway... that aside, I guess I might as well go through with my idea

@gandalf3 I would like to draft you

gandalf3

What's your idea?

(I haven't had any myself :/)

GiantCowFilms

5 hours ago, by GiantCowFilms

Okay

There is the pitch ^^

gandalf3

o.O

k then

*clicks on the "5 hours ago" bit* ahh, I get it now

GiantCowFilms

And I was thinking of using your Suzanne character for the users (to be a little less-in jokey)

as well as getting your help making a billion boxes

gandalf3

sure

GiantCowFilms

8:47 PM

:D

gandalf3

/me likes boxes

(easy to model)

GiantCowFilms

I'm already starting to work on a idea for the creates

I thought it would be cool to have stenciled numbers on the boxes

that correspond with real questions

gandalf3

Though my Suzanne is really quite terrible.. I just slopped it together with the skin modifier in a few minutes

GiantCowFilms

and label each one with a tag

@gandalf3 it works, it won't be very big. Look at the scale of the guy in the scene

And then have alternating SE and Blender logos stenciled onto the sides of the boxes.

gandalf3

If we're to have a similar composition as the shot from raiders, will all that be visible?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

8:50 PM

Only on some of the boxes

gandalf3

(it can't be animated right?)

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 I think enough

@gandalf3 yes

I was thinking of going big and red for the markings

gandalf3

It's only going to be 700-oddpx wide..

ok

GiantCowFilms

Well it might still work, even if its not readable so to speak

the suggestion of it will still be there

gandalf3

Are we going for a photo-realistic look? or slightly cgish/not-quite-cartoony?

GiantCowFilms

8:52 PM

Photorealistic

I think

but if it doesn't quite cut it, I think we will be fine

gandalf3

Sounds good

GiantCowFilms

I think we first need to setup the scene with the lights, floor and roof, so we can test box shaders in the environment

gandalf3

Dark and grungy like that shot from raiders? Or perhaps more brightly lit? (or just dark with less grunge?)

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 I was thinking a little more light in the shadows

however, we can start be a close recreation, then dial the look from there

gandalf3

good idea

So sortof block it out

GiantCowFilms

8:55 PM

I'm working on a system to put the markings on the boxes in such a way we can link them into the file multiple times, and they will still be different

@gandalf3 yeah

get the key parts in

like the metal roof scafolding, the lights, and the floor

gandalf3

right

GiantCowFilms

You will want to look on google, there are different shots of it, and some are missing parts

5 hours ago, by GiantCowFilms

gandalf3

Who's planning on doing what?

GiantCowFilms

I dunno

gandalf3

Then.. Who wants to do what?

GiantCowFilms

8:57 PM

I'm working on a base box system (some simple starter materials

gandalf3

(who else is working on this?)

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ @X-27

and maybe @ARadish and @Gwenn

:D

@gandalf3 Lots

yep

8:58 PM

most will be doing boxes.... I think the scene should be done by one person

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

we just need tasks

Gwenn

Not me. I said I would help iff it was a library instead of a warehouse.

@Gwenn Arlight then

lol

sorry D:

8:58 PM

lol

Gwenn

That's "iff" not "if".

GiantCowFilms

I just didn't feel like making 30,000 book spines

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Don't worry @Gwenn, we don't need your help. Don't feel bad about it

someonewithpc

@Gwenn If and only if?

gandalf3

There's an addon for making book spines..

someonewithpc

8:59 PM

Formal logic, yay

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ owch

Gwenn

@GiantCowFilms Chicken. :P

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@gandalf3 SHHHHHH

gandalf3

(plus at that resolution you probably only need make like 5 :P)

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn that works iff I'm marty McFly

@gandalf3 My goal was 30

different shapes and sizes

and if we get board, we can always make a forklift.... that will take some time

Gwenn

9:00 PM

Hey, get a load of this guy's life preserver. Dork thinks he's gonna drown.

GiantCowFilms

@Gwenn XD

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

. . .

Movie reference?

GiantCowFilms

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ Back to the future, parts II & III

Gwenn

Ja, Back to the Future

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Ah

GiantCowFilms

9:01 PM

The chicken thing, oddly enough, wasn't in the first one... hmmm... sequel syndrom.

Blender can open PSDs

Life can be kind sometimes

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

wow

I didn't know that

If I had photoshop maybe I would I guess

Arrrgh

My PNGs are not importing the alpha channel

Import images as Planes has some issues I think

GiantCowFilms

Basic idea for random numbers on each box

we can do this for tags too

it needs a bit of tuneing

but I think it will work

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

ok

How does it work?

GiantCowFilms

Nearly got it working

gimme one min

BTW: blender.org/manual/render/cycles/nodes/more.html#object-info needs to be fixed

I would like to know what the range of values out of the random output is....

Round node not working... AGGGGHHh

How can I get a random number between 1 and 200?

in cycles, @gandalf3

gandalf3

9:21 PM

@GiantCowFilms 0..1

@GiantCowFilms multiply it by 200

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 That is what I thought

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms I'm on it

:)

GiantCowFilms

:)

bbl

gandalf3

9:45 PM

@GiantCowFilms oh, 1 and 200.. I guess multiply by 199 and add 1?

cegaton

3 redundant answers... blender.stackexchange.com/questions/40928/…

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol, that is pretty bad

cegaton

Maybe I'll write an answer... it could be done with a curve...

A Radish

10:39 PM

Sorry for my absence, i was re-roofing the shed...

GiantCowFilms

The round node is misbehaving

A Radish

what does that have to do with my shed?

and what's a round node?

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish cycles math node

BTW, I could have my own private git repos WITHOUT github!!!!

I could put them on the BE server

that would be awsome

(of course the BE server does have a bit of a ram problem)

A Radish

that would be... do you have the software developed to do that?

@GiantCowFilms yah...\

GiantCowFilms

@ARadish I don't need to develop anything, I can just add it

of course we wont have the nice github UI

but at least it would work

A Radish

10:42 PM

i keep fat-fingering the keyboard. and writing "/" and stuff

@GiantCowFilms i need a UI to be able touse it... :d

GiantCowFilms

For some reason I am starving today, bbl after I eat something

@ARadish Well the idea is that I manage it

A Radish

I just ate.

@GiantCowFilms ah

GiantCowFilms

since it is on my server. I think I can do it well enough...

besides, I like learning how to swim in the deep end :P

A Radish

yeah

@GiantCowFilms i learned how to swim exactly that way... my brother picked me up and threw me in the ocean...

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 thanks for the speedy manual update

:D

A Radish

10:44 PM

i still hate the ocean

XD

:D

lol, tiny eyes xD

Holy moly... is it just me or did the screen writers for Elephants Dream write this: blender.org/manual/composite_nodes/types/converter/…

It makes no sense

I mean what is this section and why was it dumped there: blender.org/manual/composite_nodes/types/converter/…

Manual Z-Mask to Pulsate Scaling a Channel and Quantize/Restrict Color Selection, Theory,Reality and Summary.

It doesn't take much to make those titles sound like a book on philosophy and quantum physics.

math node noodle. ..... okay dude....

The result is that the output value can only be one of a certain set of values, stair-stepped because of the rounding function of the math node noodle. <-- again, am I out of it, or does that not make sense

A Radish

i thougt you were eating

GiantCowFilms

11:26 PM

I ate now

@gandalf3 when I have time (in the future, I think I have some upgrade ideas for some manual pages)

gandalf3

:D

There is definitely no lack of ..problems to be fixed :P

Gwenn

Here's a rough sketch of what I'm drawing for tomorrow. Does anybody have anything to critique before I start filling in detail?