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9:00 PM
not if they develop it by clean room procedures
What about when I have a question about something I've never done before? I can't use the code verbatim, but between three posts, I compile a workable solution. Then, I clean it up a bit. Do I have to cite those three posts?
What if they only contained a description from the documentation without any code?
(You know that SO comes up higher than the docs in the search results.)
If this goes into place, that could make for some very polluted code after a while
Not really, because the current CC-BY-SA requires the same attribution (as best I can tell, someone correct me if I'm wrong).
What happens when the item is obviously common knowledge among a group, like my integer input in Python post?
9:03 PM
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is requesting a code reviewQuentin 45 secs ago
I was reading the Python 2 questions, but I was working on Python 3. Turns out it was a very simple fix that has several posts linked as dupes.
Do I have to cite my own Q and the accepted A every time I input an integer in Python?
Personally, Unless I'm literally copy-pasting from SO (which basically never happens) I don't see the need for attribution in the first place. And even then, very little on SO is advanced/complete enough to be considered *not* common knowledge.
Well, @200_success has capped on the big meta for today.
I didn't even have to write anything. I would have capped just on the attention drawn to my previous answer.
9:14 PM
Post your code to - www.codereview.stackexchange.com — Nikhil Parmar 50 secs ago
Yeah, I still think your answer is the best, and I've read a few others out there.
(Mostly because of how it starts, mind you.)
If it works properly and you're interested in cleaning it up, you might try Code Review. — TigerhawkT3 53 secs ago
I think the non-"quote" is good too.
I had to write something dramatic to emphasize the fact that it's such a huge culture shift.
If this goes through, I'm going to start a competing site as soon as I can.
9:16 PM
I'm honestly not that upset by the license change.
It looks like they're trying to make it more compatible with other licenses.
My site's license will be that the users are signing all rights away by posting, but I will encourage users to cite things anyway.
(With that license, I can't see it succeeding.)
Is there a rep-cap for negative, as well as positive?
My U is having caching problems.
I wouldn't be so upset if it didn't also have the potential to decimate Code Review.
What about it would decimate Code Review?
9:19 PM
The MIT License is more of a "give code away freely" license.
I don't think it's appropriate to expect people to give code away just to discuss it.
And how is that bad for CR? You think fewer people will post if it means their code is much closer to public domain?
(I post all my code with the idea that it's public domain anyway.)
People who write FizzBuzz and linked lists won't care. People working on corporate projects could care very much.
Ah, there is that.
I don't think people working on GPL-licensed code could post it here.
A lot of RD is GPL licensed because of the ANTLR parser.
Posting under MIT would be re-licensing, and GPL code can only be licensed under GPL, if I understand correctly.
I only have one repo on my GitHub which isn't MIT licensed, and that's because of a third-party module.
9:23 PM
We licensed what we can of RD as MIT, but at least one project is GPL because of the parser.
Not just the license. The fact that code is singled out as different from the surrounding content is a dangerous idea.
I can understand where that would be frustrating.
That too. I want my code and text all licensed under one license.
@200_success I wonder how that would affect posts that contain both a "pseudo algorithm" written as text, and a code part, written as code.
Since you have a working answer already, and you haven't identified any shortcomings in your solution that make it unsuitable for you, this is a better fit for CodeReview. — Rex Kerr 37 secs ago
I'm a big fan of the WTFPL, personally, at least for open-source
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9:42 PM
How does the potential invalidating answers bot work?
Does it only flag when the author edits a code snippet portion of their question, or any edit at all by the author?
@Insane IIRC any code edits to a question that has received an answer
Gotcha. Cause I edited my question but no code snippet parts of it
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@SimonForsberg Or when improperly formatted code gets edited.
Apparently flags on religiously offensive material now get declined, at least on that MSE post.
9:48 PM
@Insane It works based off the HTML rendition of the post, that is, if text is changed within <pre> or <code> tags it notifies us
@Phrancis Cool, so I didn't trigger a notify :P
It seems that your code currently works, and you are looking to improve it. Generally these questions are too opinionated for this site, but you might find better luck at CodeReview.SE. Remember to read their requirements as they are a bit more strict than this site. — Lynn Crumbling 41 secs ago
Right. Keep in mind that text that is marked-up with back ticks or 4 preceding spaces at the beginning of a line in a post gets converted to HTML, in case you didn't know
@Phrancis All content gets converted to HTML.
9:52 PM
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is asking for a code reviewQuentin 51 secs ago
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it belongs on codereview.stackexchange.comVolkerK 29 secs ago
@Duga That's not a valid close reason.
Hey @Quill
This may be a good question for Code Review, so long as: (A) the code works, and (B) it's not hypothetical or incomplete in any way. Please read the on-topic guide before posting, if you choose to go to Code Review. If you have any questions or concerns, join us at our CR Help Desk. — Phrancis 1 min ago
'night @all
10:01 PM
@Mat'sMug do you know of a way to set up Excel so that when you copy a cell it doesn't also copy a line break with it?
night @zak
@Phrancis Move the line break? Just a thought
Oh, sorry, line break
I read it as page break
What do you mean, exactly?
A line break within a cell? Such as what you get using Alt+Enter?
I often find myself using Excel to hold data that I afterwards copy/paste into another program (usually SSMS or Notepad++)
10:05 PM
If you're looking for code review then you should check out codereview.stackexchange.com otherwise reformat your question so it actually asks something — Yottatron 13 secs ago
It's just annoying to constantly have to remove the new line it created
The way I'd do it is to find and replace all line break characters chr(10) with regular spaces chr(32)
Otherwise, you can always investigate the looong list of Paste Special options
There's probably one in there that'd do the trick.
Ah yeah, those
"Paste Special -> Transpose" is possibly one of the best features of Excel
@Zak Apparently they actually use the term "Downstar" on the 19th byte
I'd probably just use a function like so:
=SUBSTITUTE(CellRef, chr(10), chr(32))
Resize so it covers all your existing data
then paste the values back over the original
Chr() for VBA, CHAR() for worksheet functions
10:13 PM
Wouldn't that be a circular reference?
Or would you use this function in a separate set of cells?
separate set of cells
So if your data's in A1:F10
Ah, didn't work though... oh well
I'd put the functions in H1:M10
Looks like Excel actually puts those in when you copy it to the clipboard, rather than them being a character in the cell
Try Find and Replace All
Find: Ctrl+J
Replace: whatever you want
And with that, I actually *am* off to bed this time.
10:20 PM
Okay, have a good night :)
Give CR a try. — greybeard 49 secs ago
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it belongs to codereview.stackexchange.comPaul just now
10:38 PM
This may be a good question for Code Review, so long as: (A) the code works, and (B) it's not hypothetical or incomplete in any way. Please read the on-topic guide before posting, if you choose to go to Code Review. If you have any questions or concerns, join us at our CR Help Desk. — Phrancis 35 secs ago
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@holroy wow, your answer to a specific programming problem looks like one of your code reviews. — DeliriousSyntax 1 min ago
10:44 PM
10:57 PM
too late @EBrown
11:10 PM
If this is working code that you think could be improved, see Code Review. If not, please clarify the issue. — jonrsharpe 52 secs ago
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-81 on the Q, lol
the developer story one was on like -400 or something crazy like that
That puts it at #8 most downvoted post on Meta.SE
11:23 PM
Even more epic: net votes on the previous question are now tied, whatever that means.
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Interesting. They can algorithmically tell which questions should go through the Low Quality queue, so why don't they put up a road block before the question even gets fully posted?
some of the CMs hang out in the tavern if you want questions answered fast
@200_success Actually, they do.
When your question contains certain keywords, it will not let you click "Post", or whatever the button says.
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It's about damn time
11:44 PM
I noticed that the downvote count on the MIT License announcement has nearly doubled.
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@CaptainObvious Since when is "is" an adjective?
I'm writing my first toString() method, interesting experience
It works! It's ugly though
11:59 PM
they usually are

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