The 2nd Monitor

Duga

12:00 AM

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There are 1400 unanswered questions (94.3843% answered)

Ethan Bierlein

Woot! Gone down by 11!

Hosch250

And percentage up by .05.

Answered percentage.

Ethan Bierlein

I think I helped a little.

SirPython

Is "Duga" pronounced "doo-gah" or "dug-ah"?

Ethan Bierlein

@SirPython I think it's "doo-gah".

@SimonAndréForsberg Is that correct? ^^

SirPython

12:04 AM

I've always said it that way.

Ethan Bierlein

Me too

Phrancis

> duga (Icelandic)
Pronunciation
IPA: /ˈtʏːɣa/

I think that would approximate (in Americanese) to "tu-ya"

Ethan Bierlein

Yup

Phrancis

But "Doo-ga" is much easier

Ethan Bierlein

Oh, and hello @QPaysTaxes

Jamal

12:11 AM

I'm tempted to post duplicate answers on this users's other questions since all the advice applies, but it doesn't feel right. He really should've just posted one question at a time with just one implementation.

Ethan Bierlein

Thx

@QPaysTaxes You hear my news?

Naw, not that.

I'm running for moderator.

aww :(. Oh well.

I'm gonna try anyways.

Jamal

I'm going to attempt to kill two more C++11 zombies. That way I'll have the required 80 answers.

Ethan Bierlein

@QPaysTaxes Oh, well, that's a little biased.

SirPython

@QPaysTaxes No, come to assembly. We have, err, well; you'll have to make it yourself.

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Ethan Bierlein

Nah, if you ran, I'd vote for you.

But, but... :(

Phrancis

12:14 AM

@Jamal You could just make a comment to the other question linking to your answer, and saying all the advice applies to that other implementation perhaps

Ethan Bierlein

@QPaysTaxes Well, bah to yew.

Phrancis

I don't think @Jamal is really too concerned with the extra rep so much as to give someone else a fair shot at perhaps getting some rep themselves reviewing the question their own way

Jamal

@Phrancis I could

I also don't feel like finding anything different to point out.

Ethan Bierlein

Concerns aside, I'm still running.

Phrancis

Go for it man

Ethan Bierlein

12:16 AM

@QPaysTaxes Can't convince me otherwise.

I WILL ~~DO THIS~~ AT LEAST TRY

SirPython

There's no harm in trying.

Ethan Bierlein

That ^^

Well, brb, gonna go eat.

Phrancis

I'm still on the edge, I'd like to run because I have good people skills and spend a lot of time here, but my technical programming knowledge is not very good compared to many others

I'd like to see some of the less frequent chatroom lurkers run too

Hey, I just got "Inquisitive" :D

Hint: You can vote on multiple candidates

Especially on the first round where candidates introduce themselves, you have unlimited votes. Then next go after part of the elimination, you can vote 3 times (from memory)

Oh ok

SirPython

Having moderator tools is like having x-ray vision; I see some things that I wish I had not seen. (Profane posts).

Jamal

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A: Associative container that produces a unique, instance specific handle for each inserted object

To "answer" this comment: #include <memory> //required for placement new? No, that library isn't required for basic uses of new (it's a keyword). However, a feature such as nothrow would require it. Check the documentation for more information. These aren't too readable: void hire...

nhgrif

12:32 AM

@Phrancis I don't like mods who aren't easily accessible. A mod who isn't active in chat needs to be extraordinarily active in meta. That's a really short list.

RubberDuck

@Phrancis I'd like to see that too.

Also, the people skills are more important than the tech skills IMO.

Phrancis

Fair point

RubberDuck

cough

No arguments here. =;)-

Phrancis

Anyone got rep to spare on SO, this answer really helped me out and only upvote it has it mine, super-nice user too (look at the comments)

I honestly thought Swing would be easier than it is, I keep getting weird errors. Really got to figure out this beans thing

maaartinus

@QPaysTaxes I've never tried... I found it plain strange. Do you like it?

Phrancis

12:41 AM

JavaFX is kind of overkill for what I'm trying to do. Just a plain user form to append data into a DB

Ethan Bierlein

@QPaysTaxes Oh, sorry I misunderstood you.

Quill

Monking @all

Ethan Bierlein

> Wait @EthanBierlein I'm not saying you're a bad candidate

It was that. ^^

I always thought that the little "reply" button did the same thing as pinging, so, sorry, again.

Ah. Lemme try this for a sec.

@QPaysTaxes Neat

Cool.

maaartinus

@QPaysTaxes I hoped someone could make me clear how fantastic it is.

@QPaysTaxes The most sane solution is usually to remove all the try-catch crap.

Jamal

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A: A* algorithm solution to "intermediate space probe" challenge

This is quite a bit of code, so I'll start with a few things for now: I appreciate that you're using <random> instead of rand(). Even in C++11 solutions, the latter seems to still be used. SIZE can be a constexpr instead, though this may not really matter for a simple constant. Since this is C...

That question could use more answers. It's a lot of code and I don't like going though all of it.

Ethan Bierlein

12:50 AM

Aaargh, why won't my vote count update

maaartinus

@QPaysTaxes Very rarely. If it goes wrong then you'll see that "none" was a bad idea.

@QPaysTaxes Yes, UTFG is often the right answer.

@QPaysTaxes No, throwing a better exception is just right if you don't like the given one.

@QPaysTaxes That's what you recommended. And it'd the right answer, if I wasn't that lazy.

Quill

@EthanBierlein, you're one day away from the Fanatic badge, excited?

Ethan Bierlein

@Quill YES

Quill

@EthanBierlein I've got a whole month left ;-;

and then I've gotta do Meta

Ethan Bierlein

@Quill I'm working on meta rn.

maaartinus

12:56 AM

You don't have to. It's a Java-induced illness to catch everything. The proper outcome is

- 90% throws clause
- 9% rethrow
- 0.9% log and ignore
- 0.1% something else

@QPaysTaxes Unless there was a typo: Use The Friendly Google. Or f*, YMMV.

Then it's the 9% case.

Phrancis

@maaartinus Could be worse... try VBA lately?

On Error GoTo Hell

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Oohhhhhhhhhh I just figured out that what I thought was a Swing error is actually a PICNIC error

Quill

Well, zombie down. I would learn VBA, but I'm on a Mac, and that'd be counter productive when I could learn Swift

Phrancis

I'm trying to make it print the value I entered in the fields, but instead it prints the properties of the field. Probably a #NamingThings issue

maaartinus

@QPaysTaxes Abusing?

@Phrancis What about

COMEFROM

In computer programming, COMEFROM (or COME FROM) is an obscure control flow structure used in some programming languages, originally as a joke. COMEFROM is roughly the opposite of GOTO in that it can take the execution state from any arbitrary point in code to a COMEFROM statement. The point in code where the state transfer happens is usually given as a parameter to COMEFROM. Whether the transfer happens before or after the instruction at the specified transfer point depends on the language used. Depending on the language used, multiple COMEFROMs referencing the same departure point may be invalid...

Ethan Bierlein

1:15 AM

Stupid SE

maaartinus

@QPaysTaxes I'd prefer to keep it uniform, no mixing of short and long solutions.

What I like best is
@Cleanup InputStream in = new ...

@QPaysTaxes Right, you've got the name right. Now you only need to understand the advantages!

Hosch250

Thank you, mods.

I'm out of flags now.

Comment flags, anyway.

maaartinus

@QPaysTaxes Yes... it's more a tool than a library, but it's just a word choice, YMMV.

More like Eclipse than like Spring.

Jamal

@Hosch250 You still have a long way to 500, though. ;-)

Hosch250

Yup.

But, if I use all my flags up every day, it shouldn't be too hard.

I have 26 per day now, and doesn't it go up as more are accepted?

Jamal

1:22 AM

For comment flags, I'm not too sure.

maaartinus

@QPaysTaxes Sure. And Eclipse is also a "write-time getter/setter/constructor generator tool".

And Lombok is also an IDEA plug-in (and possible an Eclipse plug-in soon).

@QPaysTaxes Sure... but from the POV "when it gets used"..., but as I said, YMMV.

@QPaysTaxes What no? Your mileage may NOT vary? :D

Let's forget it... that's waste of time. I know what you mean and I hope you know what I mean, so let's stop it.

@QPaysTaxes Honestly?

But... does it matter?

If you're honestly interested, I could explain more exactly what I mean. I could possible come to the conclusion that I was being imprecise... but that's all pretty unimportant.

Concerning Lombok, I see it as something what should be part of Java. Ideally, since ever.

@QPaysTaxes No. But in one aspect they have more in common than with e.g. Spring.

Yes. that's about all. Just this aspect.

And the things it does are something javac/ecj should do.

Quill

1:46 AM

Another zombie down, and it's time for me to go.

Ethan Bierlein

Aaaarg. Stupid stupid SE

Quill

@EthanBierlein What's up, buttercup?

(Sorry)

Ethan Bierlein

@Quill I should have [badge:electorate], but it still isn't showing up.

Quill

@EthanBierlein Badges take a while sometimes

Mat's Mug

@EthanBierlein what's your Q/A vote count?

Ethan Bierlein

1:48 AM

But it's been like an hour and a half though.

@Mat'sMug How do I find that?

Mat's Mug

uh, ..it used to be pretty easily found on your profile page.. hold on....

Hosch250

Review queue.

See if you qualify there.

Phrancis

@maaartinus You could ask the duckies how often they see in VBA On Error GoTo Next

Mat's Mug

@Phrancis s/GoTo/Resume

Phrancis

Oh, that

"Hey, there's an error! Oh well, carry on..."

Mat's Mug

1:51 AM

dang, where's the freakin' Q vs A vote count on the new profile page?

Ethan Bierlein

See, it says I have it ^^

Mat's Mug

I say ~7 minutes

maaartinus

@Phrancis Sure, and it quite often works. And then it gets more complicated and stops working and nobody can ever fix it. Except with yet another error ignorance.

Hosch250

I had to wait almost 24 hours for a badge once.

Ethan Bierlein

@Mat'sMug What about 6-8 weeks?

Mat's Mug

1:53 AM

or that

Ethan Bierlein

2:05 AM

Nice

Seems cool

Captain Obvious

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Q: Generic Networking Class for PHP

I am in the process of writing networking code for PHP that is meant to be used in long-running PHP processes. I realize that PHP is supposedly not well suited for long-running processes, however that is not my question, and I already am well aware of the implications. This is meant as an OOP l...

Hosch250

2:19 AM

It has a factor tag, alright.

Why didn't you confirm it?

Ethan Bierlein

stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/factor-lang

it's factor-lang

np

Mat's Mug

a bounty is always a gamble

Duga

If the code is working, and your only issue is how to refactor it to eliminate the callback hell, perhaps codereview would be a better place for it. — laggingreflex 19 secs ago

Quill

@QPaysTaxes Huh?

@QPaysTaxes Ah, I only just starred it though

Mat's Mug

2:35 AM

2 hours ago, by QPaysTaxes

Damn, all you people ever star is my self-deprecating stuff

you kinda asked for it! :)

</lurks>

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Quill

Double revival badge :-)

Mat's Mug

well done!

Quill

Oh, @QPaysTaxes, thanks for making the zombie searcher too, much easier than actually searching for the undead

Ethan Bierlein

@Quill Awesome

@Quill There we go.

Quill

Oh, The Horror, The pinging Horror

Ethan Bierlein

2:40 AM

Oops. I referenced the wrong message

Mat's Mug

@Quill #FunIrrelevantFacts if you reorder the words you get Horror The The Pinging, or HTTP

Quill

@Mat'sMug wordplay at its finest

Ethan Bierlein

I wish I could find a graphics library for Go.

Mat's Mug

in other words, Go fish ... :\

Ethan Bierlein

@Mat'sMug Heh, heh, heh...

Oh shit, a bird just hit my window

Mat's Mug

2:43 AM

I'll stop it right there

@EthanBierlein quite the wake-up eh?

Ethan Bierlein

Yup

Motoko Kusanagi

@QPaysTaxes There was only like 10 hours left for that bounty, so I picked the only answer.

Quill

Apparently they see their reflection in the glass and think it's a possible mate, at least that's what I was told when an Ibis flew through the glass window into my classroom one time

Ethan Bierlein

The bird is okay everyone, it's just a little stunned.

Mat's Mug

> minute of silence

Quill

2:53 AM

LOUD NOISES

Ethan Bierlein

SUPER AWESOME LOUD NOISES

Mat's Mug

cough

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claps hands - so, how would you react if you saw this in production code?

        catch (InvalidOperationException)
        {
            // debug me
            return null;
        }

lol

Quill

@Mat'sMug Coffee Break time is what I'd think

Mat's Mug

later!

Ethan Bierlein

See ya!

maaartinus

2:56 AM

See ya!

Mat's Mug

@Quill damn right, good idea! starts brewer

Quill

@QPaysTaxes This isn't Skype

maaartinus

@Mat'sMug kill -9 that guy.

Mat's Mug

@maaartinus IKR! ... except I'm that guy - no worries, this code isn't shipping as is :)

Quill

@QPaysTaxes Meh, similar enough Syntax

Ethan Bierlein

2:57 AM

@Quill If it was, then

http://:

Quill

@EthanBierlein Jokes on you, I'm on a Mac :P

Ethan Bierlein

Aww

Quill

I have this feeling like I'm going to look back on my youth, and think

Why the hell did I program in PHP?

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Mat's Mug

lol

maaartinus

@Mat'sMug I see, but don't even think about it... crashing on an exception is a bless compared to what you're risking.

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