The 2nd Monitor

Heslacher

2:00 PM

OP did change the code before my answer

A Red Herring

he changed it whilst you were posting the answer

and the post was only re-opened because he changed it

RubberDuck

Look reasonable?

        /// <summary>
        /// Displays detail page for the specified <see cref="Material"/>.
        /// </summary>
        /// <param name="id">The ItemId of the <see cref="Material"/></param>
        /// <returns>
        /// A <see cref="ViewResult"/> view if found.
        /// If it is not found, a <see cref="HttpNotFoundResult"/> is returned.
        /// </returns>
        /// <example>
        /// GET: /Materials/Details/A118A10
        /// </example>
        public ActionResult Details(string id)

Mat's Mug

0

A: Posted a question about thread abortion and related process

I'm the moderator that cleaned up the 25-or-so comments on your post, and reopened your question after the // do something placeholders were replaced with actual code. Thank you for coming to meta. Am I missing something here? Yes. Please read why is hypothetical code off-topic?, which go...

A Red Herring

@RubberDuck Looks alright

@Mat'sMug +1

Zak

@ARedHerring an extra +1 for

> the design is the code

Mat's Mug

2:02 PM

it's actually the code is the design ;-)

> the cake is a lie

A Red Herring

there is no cake.

Mast

>This is not a code review request, in fact more like a design review.

Makes my blood boil.

A Red Herring

should have just replied with

codereview.stackexchange.com

Mast

That ^^

TopinFrassi

Trying to debug a bug, don't know the steps to reproduce, trying to check stacktrace, VS crashes. Thanks Visual Studio

Mat's Mug

2:04 PM

cool down. we shouldn't expect all new comers to get CR the first time around.

2

Zak

"hmmm. I don't want a code review, so let's post this to Code Review". Makes perfect sense.

A Red Herring

@Mat'sMug I didn't expect him to understand CR the first time around

Mast

@TopinFrassi Yea, VS is a pain in the behind to work with.

A Red Herring

But after an extended discussion and being told that I was the one not understanding, it felt more along the lines of I was being told how the site works by someone who doesn't know :p

Mat's Mug

@ARedHerring perhaps after 20-some comments, yeah... lol

Mast

2:04 PM

Just read the rules and conform to them. Don't try to understand them.

A Red Herring

@TopinFrassi I hate VS with a burning passion. Visual Bloat

TopinFrassi

@Mast I used to love it, I still kinda do. But damn it has a bad habit of crashing at the worst time

Mast

It's not that hard.

Mat's Mug

I'm really happy OP took it to meta all by himself. there's hope ;-)

A Red Herring

So am I, @Mat'sMug

As I said,every person has something to contribute and any user turned away for anything less than being an absolute arse is a loss to this community

Mast

2:05 PM

@Mat'sMug Not sure, just means he wants to take the argument further now the comments are cleaned up. Seems not like learning to me.

A Red Herring

@Mast His meta question appears to be respectfully written.

Perhaps he should have posted a meta before 20 comments and before telling me I didn't understand his question

Mast

@ARedHerring I'll give him that.

A Red Herring

But some people are 'shoot-first-ask-questions-later'

Mast

Python style.

It's easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.

Mat's Mug

@Mast a healthy meta discussion is better than a trail of comments for a number of reasons. "losing it" on meta is much less likely.

Mast

2:07 PM

@Mat'sMug I'd have thought it was a great move if he went to meta before posting a whole lot of not-constructive comments. Now I'm suspicious of the user.

Mat's Mug

@ARedHerring yes, that

@Mast it seems we're also the ones learning then :) next time, meta before it gets to 20 comments!

A Red Herring

I do not think suspicion is warranted as the user has already posted to say "ok, I might have been wrong here". That's enough to earn my respect @Mast

IntensifierDescriptorMan

^

Mast

I'm easily suspiciousated (or whatever it's called when you are easily under the impression someone is suspicious)

Jeroen Vannevel

suspicious

Mat's Mug

2:10 PM

suspicized

TopinFrassi

suspicy

Mat's Mug

suspissed

...let's end that here

Ethan Bierlein

lol

</lurks>

3

Zak

The phrase you're after is "I'm naturally suspicious", distrustful, sceptical etc.

or "I'm suspicious by nature", distrustful, sceptical etc.

Duga

@ankit Have you considered this kind of solution (might be sligthly adapted to your case) ? codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/98383/… — Spotted 10 secs ago

Mat's Mug

2:14 PM

@Duga you've been spotted

Jeroen Vannevel

Shouldn't angular.module("StackMailer", []).controller('StackExchangeController',['$scope', function ($scope) { be enough for angularjs to withstand minification of js code?

A Red Herring

@JeroenVannevel Yes.

Zak

whoah, duga writes answers too?

10

A: Inserting data in 3 tables of a database with JPA

What my main question is, is since I'm new to JPA if I'm using an efficient way to insert the data fetched from the Twitter API in my database. Well, it's not entirely bad, I understand that you need it because only your sqlmanagement.XXX classes are annotated with @Entity. You could improve...

A Red Herring

@Zak Duga needed to write an answer to get enough rep to talk in chat.

@JeroenVannevel However, if you're already using a build process such as minifying html, you don't need to do this by hand. just get ng annotate

Jeroen Vannevel

ooh that looks interesting

installing

A Red Herring

2:18 PM

@JeroenVannevel basically it'll detect teh common angularjs patterns and annotate them for you

if you use one that it doesn't know about then you just do //@ngInject before the function.

I believe we're using that in Cardshifter's HTML Client if you want an example of usage.

(but we aren't using gulp, we're using webpack)

Jeroen Vannevel

nah that's fine, I've got the gulp example

they're all the same, really

Captain Obvious

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Q: Plugin Pattern for Generic Python Application

Summary I am experimenting with a plugin pattern for a generic Python application (not necessarily web, desktop, or console) which would allow packages dropped into a plugin folder to be used according to the contract they would need to follow. In my case, this contract is simply to have a funct...

A Red Herring

@Quill @IsmaelMiguel I found out why that Angular guy has such low average rep

@ARedHerring as OP asked for the returning a value from the $http so I suggested him to do promise pattern..as he is using success & error callbacks.. they could get easily converted to promise pattern..what you felt wrong in approach from converting callback function to promise chain thing.. — Pankaj Parkar 10 mins ago

"I didn't have enough time to write an answer, so I wrote incorrect information. I'll fix it later" - he only noticed because I downvoted his answer... had I have not downvoted it, he would have never corrected the info..

Jeroen Vannevel

lol

Heslacher

4

Jeroen Vannevel

2:26 PM

I found this useful npm package I want to use. I look at the dev: it's a guy I worked with last summer

A Red Herring

@Heslacher what a time to be alive

Heslacher

;-)

A Red Herring

@JeroenVannevel :P

EBrown

I'm up to +6 at Lifehacks.

6

A: How to tell a person their fly is down

You can be discreet about it. Generally, the most effective, and discreet, way to tell him would be to place one hand on his shoulder, and whisper it in his ear so that the others can't hear. This gives him the opportunity to make the judgement call as to whether or not he should fix it. You sho...

Ismael Miguel

@ARedHerring That makes sense

RubberDuck

2:29 PM

How the heck am I out of stars already?!

9

Been a while since that's happened.

A Red Herring

@RubberDuck Starmie wall.

EBrown

@RubberDuck What were you trying to star?

Heslacher

I know a good german phrase for that. @EBrown

Ismael Miguel

@Heslacher Show us

TopinFrassi

@EBrown Damn, the other guy's answer is hilarious

EBrown

2:30 PM

I'll probably never visit Lifehacks again, but in the mean time it was worth it.

@TopinFrassi You should have seen the first answer that got deleted.

TopinFrassi

I need to hit 2k rep on that site, lol. What was it about?

EBrown

@TopinFrassi Let me find it in chat.

@TopinFrassi Chat message with first answer

3

That answer was subsequently deleted.

Mast

After getting -4 or so.

Completely deserved.

EBrown

@Mast Indeed.

He earned that -3/-4.

Can't remember which it was.

Mast

At least -4

EBrown

2:33 PM

LOL I have ~869 people reached from that one answer.

Mast

Why did that get starred? It's a terrible answer...

TopinFrassi

@EBrown Damn, that's a little to hardcore

EBrown

@TopinFrassi Oh yeah. He went all in.

2

Mast

@EBrown I'm at 8k with 11 answers. It's a bit weird.

TopinFrassi

@EBrown lol

EBrown

2:34 PM

@Mast Apparently a lot of people use Lifehacks.

Mast

Punny Friday?

Zak

I Believe LifeHacks has the highest traffic after SO

Ismael Miguel

Friday - Rebecca Black - Official Music Video

►

Duga

it's not code review that i'm after, I just need an idea of what needs to be done to modify the way that magento pulls up order summaries — noob 48 secs ago

Ethan Bierlein

@EBrown Do you have that bookmarked or something?

EBrown

2:35 PM

@EthanBierlein No I had to search through yesterdays transcript to find it.

Heslacher

@Zak stackexchange.com/sites?view=list#traffic

EBrown

I knew about what time it was.

Zak

Lifehacks ~ 900k visits/day

Mast

@Zak Wow.

@IsmaelMiguel I'll see your Friday and raise you a better Friday

The Cure - Friday Im In Love

►

Zak

Also, Code Review is by far the largest non-graduated site

Ismael Miguel

2:37 PM

@Mast I don't like it

@Zak That is most likely true

Stupid question: any of you has a car?

Zak

stackexchange.com/sites?view=list#traffic

Ethan Bierlein

nope

Zak

ELL is about level on Questions/day

but we have 4x as many users

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel Does a driver's license count?

I regularly drive cars, but I don't own one.

Zak

and then there's a reasonably steep dropoff

Ismael Miguel

2:39 PM

@Mast Yup. I simply want to know where driving licences come from and shut it down

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel DMV

Department of Motor Vehicles

In the United States a department of motor vehicles (DMV) is a state-level government agency that administers vehicle registration and driver licensing. Similar departments exist in Canada. The name "DMV" is not used in every state or province, nor are the traditional DMV functions handled by a single agency in every state, but the generic term is universally understood, particularly in the context of driver's license issuance and renewal. == Terminology and organization == Driver licensing and vehicle registration in the United States are handled by the state government in all states but Hawaii...

Ismael Miguel

I guess where I have to go then

Zak

the least-trafficked graduated site? Ask Patents

Ismael Miguel

Cause today is the 2nd day I'm almost ran over

Every week it happens

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel In Portugal it's the IMTT

Instituto da Mobilidade e dos Transportes Terrestres

Ismael Miguel

2:41 PM

Next target: IMTT

I though that thing was only to steal tax money

Mast

@IsmaelMiguel Every piece of the government is, didn't you know?

Ismael Miguel

But I'm sure some drivers don't get their licenses from there

Mast

That's why they keep inventing new governmental layers, so people don't get suspicious.

Ismael Miguel

There must have been some offer where cereal boxes had driving licenses

@Mast That is suspicious

Mast

I didn't know you could get a driver's license at 16 in Portugal.

Ismael Miguel

2:44 PM

Only for motocycles, up to 125cc

Mast

Around here you're limited to AM at that age.

TopinFrassi

In Canada, you can have your driver's license at 16, and a scooter license at 14

Ismael Miguel

Here, if you get the car lisence, you don't need to take the "road code" exam (I don't know the right name in English) and can go straight for the driving classes and exams

Phrancis

OK I got a critical question I need advice on: "I know that some on the team use OneNote all the time for their notes and things like that. Do you guys want a OneNote for our team?"

^ from my team lead

Mast

@Phrancis Uh, what.

No, don't.

Ismael Miguel

2:46 PM

No idea

TopinFrassi

I used OneNote in my previous job, it's kind of a great tool to keep everything in one place. But it can become a mess if it's not regularly cleaned up

I liked it, personnaly

Mast

Keep an online Scrum-like board instead.

Malachi

no SharePoint?

Mat's Mug

@Mast funny you mention, I'm currently setting up my work project on asana

Mast

@Mat'sMug Last project we ran something like (different brand): versionone.com

Donald.McLean

2:49 PM

@Mast It's called the Motor Vehicle Administration (MVA) in Maryland, but everybody recognizes the term DMV. I think it was called the DMV at one time.

Phrancis

We already have SharePoint. And Team Foundation Server. And other things.

Mast

@Phrancis Well, if you're already taken over by M$ there's no point in not using OneNote I think.

TopinFrassi

The OneNote was used to keep track of everything that wasn't project related. As new tools that could be used for X situation, to keep phone numbers of team members, coding conventions etc

Ismael Miguel

@Mat'sMug I used asana, but I got sick of it

Zak

Just a little something I put together

Mast

2:50 PM

I keep my notes in TaskCoach

Mat's Mug

first time using it here, looks ok. less bulky than TFS

Ismael Miguel

You could try azendoo

(It sounds like "azedo" misspelled, which means "spoiled" in Portuguese)

Mat's Mug

not really. IT team is already set up on asana, and I just joined the IT team

Ismael Miguel

Or that

I'm just saying the ones I've tried

Zak

Ismael Miguel

2:52 PM

@Zak The Workplace was really surprising

Zak

yes, here too

Ismael Miguel

Monica and enderlang (?) must be having a heck of work there

Captain Obvious

0

Q: Return lexicographically earliest string

Write a function called answer(chunk, word) that returns the shortest, lexicographically earliest string that can be formed by removing occurrences of word from chunk. Inputs: (string) chunk = "lololololo" (string) word = "lol" Output: (string) "looo" Inputs: (string) chunk = "g...

python programming-challenge

Jeroen Vannevel

lol wat

My HTML minifier re-arranges my HTML tags

Mast

@CaptainObvious Broken.

TopinFrassi

2:58 PM

I understood nothing

Ismael Miguel

Me as well

Jeroen Vannevel

it puts <select> outside my <button>

TopinFrassi

of the question. What is a lexicographically earliest string?!?

Ismael Miguel

No idea

Jeroen Vannevel

The first one that occurs

Ismael Miguel

3:05 PM

The whole question maketh no sense

EBrown

@TopinFrassi The "lexicographically earliest string" bit refers to how we weight characters when sorting.

I.e., aa is lexicographically earlier than ab or aaa.

TopinFrassi

ooohhhhh, thanks!

EBrown

It's what's used to "sort by name" and such.

Because alphabetical characters have no implicit order in relation to numbers and mixed case.

So lexicographically sorting strings applies a type of function to each character, to sort them.

He wants the shortest string, but in case of a tie he wants a string that is earlier than the tied equivalent.

@JeroenVannevel Because that is the valid HTML markup, IIRC.

Jeroen Vannevel

yeah, I just pulled it through the HTML validator

it seems like that's the reason

but it looks pretty when I do that..

EBrown

Your minifier must be validating the markup as well.

Jeroen Vannevel

3:10 PM

yeah but not entirely. The minifier doesn't complain about the <hr /> elements in there

only the input, select, etc

EBrown

Ah.

Ismael Miguel

LOL: jsfiddle.net/dd5dvc2a

jsfiddle.net/dd5dvc2a/1 o.O

Jeroen Vannevel

I started with trying to minify my HTML only to move on to create a gulpfile that cleans the /release/ folder, copies everything to the release folder, adds angular annotations, minifies JS & CSS and eventually opens the finished app in the browser

and now I'm moving on to fixing HTML compat issues before I can push it

Malachi

@Heslacher I need a proper link

Heslacher

scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/100865

Malachi

3:16 PM

nevermind I .....

Ismael Miguel

@Heslacher Almost removed my vote by mistake

Heslacher

thanks anyway

Malachi

I only vote on that site if the user hasn't capped yet for the day...lol

Ismael Miguel

@Malachi He hasn't

Malachi

most of the good answers are from Richard, who caps a lot

@IsmaelMiguel I know I checked before I voted

Ismael Miguel

3:21 PM

Oh

EBrown

~881 people reached on Lifehacks from the zipper question.

Heslacher

@Malachi I rep capped yesterday because of this answer ;-)

EBrown

I didn't realize that many people had zipper issues.

3

Ismael Miguel

I love when I'm deleting cookies on a client's computer and one of the cookies is for p*rnhub...

Malachi

@Heslacher I saw that. way to go!

there are a lot of people that spend their free moments on SciFi

EBrown

3:24 PM

@Malachi I don't even have an account on that site.

A Red Herring

monking

Malachi

it is a fun site.

I used it at home with my kids the day before yesterday to figure out which Marvel movie we should watch and which we should watch next

Ismael Miguel

Greetings dude

Mast

I was interested in many SE sites for a while, but now I just stick to CR.

Unless I got one of those accidental questions which just happen to have a dedicated SE.

EBrown

I was interested in CR, but I think that's passing now.

Mast

3:27 PM

6

Q: The origin of Elysium

The lyrics of the famous "Ode to Joy" (by Schiller, on the final of Beethoven's 9th) mention the 'daughter of Elysium'. The term Elysium or 'Elysian plane' go back to Hesiod, Homer and Aeneid. The definition seems to be either paradise or afterlife, perhaps both. What's the origin of Elysium an...

greek

Zak

@Malachi IMO, watch them in release order. You can skip the Hulk films if you so wish.

TopinFrassi

You can also skip the Fantastic 4s

Malachi

there is an order though. and we are going to watch the agents of shield as well

Zak

I really really liked how S.H.I.E.L.D. tied in with Captain America 2

EBrown

@Zak The Winter Soldier is my new favourite movie ever.

Ismael Miguel

3:29 PM

Generally, I'm not a big fan of Marvel stuff

Or comic stuff

skiwi

Monking

Ismael Miguel

@skiwi Greetings

Have you worked on your AI thingy?

Zak

@EBrown It was my favourite movie, then Guardians Of The Galaxy happened :)

TopinFrassi

I didn't like GotG that much, but darn Winter Soldier was the thing

Zak

-1

Q: Implements a simple game for children.

Each child is given 10 random arithmetic questions, involving addition and subtraction, where operands and answers are all in the range between 0 and 20. The child should be given a correct answer if the answer is wrong. After 10 questions are answered, the score is displayed.  

java c++

VTC

@TopinFrassi I think it was the GotG soundtrack that really got me.

Mast

3:31 PM

@Zak Closed.

EBrown

@Zak In order of favourites: Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier, The Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain America: The First Avenger, Thor 2: The Dark World, The Avengers, Thor, Iron Man, Iron Man 3, Iron Man 2.

TopinFrassi

I don't remember it!

EBrown

I'm sure I missed at least one (several).

A Red Herring

Avengers 2 not on that list @EBrown?

Zak

I'm somewhat ambivalent about Iron Man 2/3

Malachi

3:32 PM

@Zak they all tie in check this out

EBrown

@ARedHerring Haven't watched it yet. :(

Captain Obvious

-3

Q: Implements a simple game for children.

Each child is given 10 random arithmetic questions, involving addition and subtraction, where operands and answers are all in the range between 0 and 20. The child should be given a correct answer if the answer is wrong. After 10 questions are answered, the score is displayed.  

java c++

0

Q: PHP code design and amount of small classes - is it clean or too complex?

Recently I had an interview project, which I did and sent, so this question is not for avoiding thinking. I am just struggling to build my own opinion about it so I decided to ask in public. My question in general is that: is the code design is too complex? I know the opinions may vary, but in ...

php oop

Malachi

68

A: Is there an official Marvel Cinematic Universe viewing order?

This is an updated list of the films of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in order of internal chronology; including shorts and other releases (feature films are in bold): Captain America: The First Avenger Marvel's Agent Carter Season 1 Marvel One-Shot: Agent Carter (short; Iron Man 3 release) Ir...

Stack Exchange

-1

Q: Is my PHP code design too complex or rather clean?

I recently had an interview project, which I did and sent, so this question is not for avoiding thinking. I am just struggling to build my own opinion about it so I decided to ask in public. My question in general is that: is the code design is too complex? I know the opinions may vary, but in ...

discussion

Mast

@EBrown Haven't seen them all, but you got a couple of good ones there.

TopinFrassi

3:32 PM

Iron Man 2/3 weren't really good imo

Zak

wow, perfect timing

EBrown

@Mast I'm a huge fan of Captain America.

I even have a Captain America watch.

Mast

I like Thor

EBrown

@Mast I COMPLETELY FORGOT THOR

TopinFrassi

The movies weren't bad indeed!

Mast

3:33 PM

How can you forget Thor?

EBrown

List updated.

TopinFrassi

I'm more a fan of the series, Arrow, Flash and Daredevil <3

EBrown

@Mast I was thinking about my man, Steve Rogers and forgot about Thor.

Mast

Welcome @ambigram_maker

ambigram_maker

Yeah

i was gonna ask

Zak

3:34 PM

@ambigram_maker oh, hi

*waves

ambigram_maker

"What's the best practice to print to a file using nio in java?"

EBrown

Let me see if I can find a picture of my Captain America watch.

Zak

@ambigram_maker That's not a good question format for CR

We don't do theoretical Reviews

ambigram_maker

no

here in the chat

Mast

Sounds like a Programmers question, but please read their on-topic page first.

ambigram_maker

3:36 PM

generally

Zak

If it's off-topic as a question, it's off-topic as a chat question

ambigram_maker

pardon me

But is Captain America on-topic for chat?

Zak

at least in general chat

Mat's Mug

@ambigram_maker thanks for bringing it up. no, it's not.

ambigram_maker

(Just kidding... I <3 Chris Evans)

;-)

Zak

3:37 PM

anything goes, until site business pops up

2

Mat's Mug

^^ that

A Red Herring

^^^^

and then everyone shuts up until site business is resolved

> General discussion about Code Review codereview.stackexchange.com - Site Business always comes first

ambigram_maker

so?

Zak

seriously though, theoretical design questions are much more a programers.se question

ambigram_maker

ok

But say...

Zak

3:38 PM

and then, once you've built it

bring it over here and we'll give you our best feedback

ambigram_maker

thats what I do.

Mast

But best practices questions are usually not a good idea on CR.

Just state what you did and what your concerns are.

ambigram_maker

But I (often) need help getting started

Mast

We love that.

ambigram_maker

Ok

Mast

3:39 PM

@ambigram_maker This is not the place for that. We're the finishing touch, not the start.

ambigram_maker

hmm

thnx

:-)

Mast

No problem :-)

Zak

the golden rule: CR code must be working as intended

Mast

And not be example code.

Mat's Mug

21

Zak

3:40 PM

even if it works by putting together several kludgy messes of code with duct tape and prayers

Mast

Yea, ugly code is totally fine.

Well, fine to post.

It's not exactly 'fine'.

Zak

as long as it's the best you can do, and it's not broken, bring it over and we'll give you as much advice as we can

@Mat'sMug that's an awesome infographic

Mat's Mug

@Zak 100% MS-Word :)

Zak

can we campaign to have that presented to new members? similar to what DB.SE has?

Malachi

@Mat'sMug did you just make that?

Mat's Mug

3:43 PM

@Malachi you've seen it before

Zak

@Mat'sMug please pin that

Malachi

not sure I have....

Mat's Mug

28

A: Checklist for how to write a good Code Review question

Perhaps something like this could help situate CR in StackLand:

Mast

I have.

Mat's Mug

17

A: Checklist for how to write a good Code Review question

How to NOT write a zombie. A zombie is a question that remains unanswered. As a question asker, your goal is to avoid writing one. Beyond meeting the on-topic requirements, I think "good CR questions" can be broken down into several question types. This answer is longer than I would have liked...

Malachi

3:43 PM

I upvoted it....lol

Mat's Mug